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What is going on with Rival? Now Slotto cash

clj7221

clj7221

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Am I missing something here? has something changed with Rival casinos? I have been playing Slotto for over a year and never ever got such an outragious Multiplier. Multipliers insanely high and the new cashout rules in this promo is Casino greed.



Get a $25 bonus on your next deposit!
Deposit must be at least $25 to qualify. Maximum bonus amount: $$25.
40x bonus playthrough ($1000)
Playthrough is the amount that must be wagered (put at risk) before you may cashout.


Unless otherwise stated, 1 credit wagered in a game counts as 1 credit toward playthrough requirements. Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive.
1x minimum cashout
You may only cashout amounts greater than your deposit plus 1 times the bonus. For example, if you deposit $100 and receive a $100 bonus with a 1x cashout, you may cashout any amount greater than $200. Additional deposits, reversals, bonuses or comp point redemptions do not count towards this minimum cashout restriction.


The following games and any variants may have different table limits while this promotion is active: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive
Your table limits may change while this promotion is active.


Valid from 2009-09-16 00:00:00 to 2012-09-16 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
The casino's general terms and conditions apply.
 
clj7221 said:
Am I missing something here?

40x bonus playthrough ($1000)
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You might be missing that it's bonus only x40 = (Deposit+Bonus)x20

This has gone up since last month, because when I checked all Rival casinos for SlotBeaters, Sloto'Cash was only (D+B)x15.
This is a very worrying trend - I already started a thread earlier this month about how Rival casinos seem to be losing the plot over bonuses.
That said, (D+B)x 20 isn't tooooo bad, but it is a shame to see Sloto of all people increasing their WR above what most MGs offer. This change will move them down from 4th to =7th best Rival sign-up bonus out of the 24 I list on my site.

KK
 
You are late.:p

Sloto did this to me more than half a year ago. The WRs were 20x but the bonus was not cashable. Other terms were the same including the 1x min cashout. I was disgusted but didnt really make a big fuss of it and have never played there since. I am down at this casino and had never cashed out from their monthly 100% promos which was 15x WR and where some other table games could be played.
 
Another one this morning.

Get a $500 bonus on your next deposit!
Deposit must be at least $500 to qualify. Maximum bonus amount: $$500.
40x bonus playthrough ($20000)
Playthrough is the amount that must be wagered (put at risk) before you may cashout.


Unless otherwise stated, 1 credit wagered in a game counts as 1 credit toward playthrough requirements. Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive.
1x minimum cashout
You may only cashout amounts greater than your deposit plus 1 times the bonus. For example, if you deposit $100 and receive a $100 bonus with a 1x cashout, you may cashout any amount greater than $200. Additional deposits, reversals, bonuses or comp point redemptions do not count towards this minimum cashout restriction.


The following games and any variants may have different table limits while this promotion is active: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive
Your table limits may change while this promotion is active.


Valid from 2009-09-16 00:00:00 to 2012-09-16 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
The casino's general terms and conditions apply.



chuchu59 said:
You are late.:p

Sloto did this to me more than half a year ago. The WRs were 20x but the bonus was not cashable. Other terms were the same including the 1x min cashout. I was disgusted but didnt really make a big fuss of it and have never played there since. I am down at this casino and had never cashed out from their monthly 100% promos which was 15x WR and where some other table games could be played.
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Here is something Positive , Kendra from Simon says Casino removed the Bonus ban on me. I appreciate that Kendra Thank you. I also checked out the bonuses they offered me in my account and the multipliers are great!
 
I saw that same bonus this morning.....even with $1000 to play with the chances of hitting the $20K playthrough are astronomical! I played with a 100% bonus this weekend...deposited $100 and received $100...I didn't get a bonus round past 5X my bet anywhere! It didn't matter if it was a $.40 bet or $1. They were TERRIBLE! So 20K...outrageous:eek:
 
This is a MIN cashout bonus. It is somewhat predatory to lure large deposits with this kind of promotion, since even if WR is met, the player may never be able to catch enough of an upswing in variance to reach 2x bonus for cashing out. Better to deposit small amounts, and this significantly increases the chance of catching an upswing, and being able to hang on to this upswing until WR has been completed.

I thought Rival casinos were worried about "advantage players", yet this kind of mathematically complicated bonus favours the advantage player, who WILL beat it given a few tries. It is the NON advantage player that will see the 100%, and not worry too much about the underlying complications, and so will make a single large deposit, rather than a smaller one.

Microgaming casinos use a standard 30x bonus for SLOTS, but these tend to be fully cashable bonuses, and other games are weighted, rather than banned (except in the case of the more generous welcome bonuses).

It is annoying, and somewhat predatory, that rather than use "plain speak" casinos always say:-

Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive.
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Rather than :-

Only non-progressive slots may be played with this bonus, play on other games is prohibited, and winnings from play on prohibited games will be removed.
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The problem with the former is that often a complaint results from a player playing a game that is not specifically listed, but the casino says it MEANT to list it, because in fact the casino MEANT it to be a purely slots only bonus, but failed to list every non-slot game in the list.

The latter is a far tighter definition of what games can be played because it is a list of ALLOWED games, rather than of DISALLOWED games.

If SlotoCash is now playing this "game" with bonuses and the central database, they will no longer stand above other Rivals as a place to play - they will just be another member of a mediocre pack of casinos.
 
I found from my experience that anything much higher then 20 multiplier is difficult to cash in. Perhaps your new at this because a 30 multiplier is nothing much to smile about. When I play I like to have a fair chance at cashing in. Also, this post was about the high multipliers slotto cash sent me this week. When your Multipliers start going in to the 40x and 50x 's then come back and tell us how much you enjoy them.

gambblex said:
Outrageous promo?

CASINO greed?

Maybe I'm a retard but I clearly see 30xBONUS playtrough for Monday's promos at Sloto

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It is usually called "Playtrough", it never has ben called "Multiplier"

I've never heard that one guy forced another to take the bonus

Mistaking casinos for charities seems to be common tning

x30 bonus=15 D+B ,no?

Is it OUTRAGEOUS?
 
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gambblex said:
It is usually called "Playtrough", it never has ben called "Multiplier"

I've never heard that one guy forced another to take the bonus

Mistaking casinos for charities seems to be common tning

x30 bonus=15 D+B ,no?

Is it OUTRAGEOUS?
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Playtrough? Excellent term and perfectly describes what the casinos are digging for us though you probably meant something else. I wouldnt have come up with that word even if I had tried.:lolup:
 
LOL I agree chu chu, playthrough, another word for how many times we have to play it through before there is no chance of cashing in.

chuchu59 said:
Playtrough? Excellent term and perfectly describes what the casinos are digging for us though you probably meant something else. I wouldnt have come up with that word even if I had tried.:lolup:
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I was talking about "Play through" I ignored the "Play trough" looked liked a spelling error to me.

chuchu59 said:
Er, actually I had the word playtrough in mind the word as used in 'peaks and troughs'. I would like to think they are sort of digging us a hole to step into.:D
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Since my last withdrawal i got also only 100% bonuses with a 20 WR deposit + bonus and even the 25% bonuses (which i never use!) have a 18x WR on it.

Very confusing is also their wording for the monday madness bonus, like mentioned in the first posting in this thread, because normaly sloto write always the WR of deposit + bonus, but here is written 40x WR the bonus, which is at least only 20x deposit + bonus, but at the first time i didn't read this, because i never expected this from sloto, so i thought that it is 40x deposit + bonus and this were a little bit too much for me *lol*

But 20x WR is okay. :)
 
Now they even started with a 100% bonus which have a 20x WR and is NOT cashable, so i see this today at the very first time on any bonus on Slotocash :(

Not a good sign.
 
My bonuses at Slotocash haven't changed. I have one that is my 100% VIP Gold which is 15X deposit and bonus and the Wed. bonus 50% which is 15x deposit and bonus. All cashable.

I don't see any difference in these bonuses and RTG's that are 20x D&B at CW or 30x D&B at Casino Titan - non cashable.

I'm not saying I like the playthru but if you take a bonus, then you agree to the terms. :)
 
anniemac said:
My bonuses at Slotocash haven't changed. I have one that is my 100% VIP Gold which is 15X deposit and bonus and the Wed. bonus 50% which is 15x deposit and bonus. All cashable.
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Probably it depends on how much you've deposited there in the past and certainly, how much you've withdrawed ;)
 
i had a recent cashout at sloto, way more than i have deposited. now i also receive this vip gold monthly one with 15wr all cashable. i still have a few other 100% with same terms in the cashier.

one good thing i recognized on sloto is the great monthly cashback. with no wr at all ;-)



cheers

coxwel
 
coxwel said:
i had a recent cashout at sloto, way more than i have deposited. now i also receive this vip gold monthly one with 15wr all cashable. i still have a few other 100% with same terms in the cashier.

one good thing i recognized on sloto is the great monthly cashback. with no wr at all ;-)



cheers

coxwel
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Actually, I dont know what they are doing. I lost more than I cashed out yet they conveniently denied me the vip monthly bonus with 15 WR all of a sudden. If I remember correctly, I was unable to even cash out once from this great promo. They then proceeded to offer bonuses that were uncashable with 20 WR and 1x min cashout. Needless to say, I have deposited at Sloto much less since.
 
eu_lowroller said:
Everybody, who has deposited there at least $50 is automatic in the Club and i'm even since nearly 2 years there!
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thats not entirely correct ;-) you also have to file a faxback to become member.

have you ever asked the sloto support why your wr has increased?


cheers

coxwel
 
I think the point here is not if the casino has to be a charity group or not. I guess everyone knows it is not a charity group, so you didn't say anything new with that. The point here is that casinos cheat us with such terms. Players who are not on top with mathematics can easily be cheated with banners, newsletters and titles offering big amounts for free, but usually in the background you can find bonuses with such terms that makes it almost impossible to cash out in the end. But not every player thinks this through, only after realizing that no matter they won big on a slot, it won't be enough
to cash out anything after completing the requirements.

I am a roulette player, for me Rival bonuses are crap. Moreover they have very tight limits on roulette, and a bet is required to spin. Except for some cases when I took some big bonuses for fun to play slots at Rivals, I never deposit there.



gambblex said:
It is usually called "Playtrough", it never has ben called "Multiplier"

I've never heard that one guy forced another to take the bonus

Mistaking casinos for charities seems to be common tning

x30 bonus=15 D+B ,no?

Is it OUTRAGEOUS?
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coxwel said:
thats not entirely correct ;-) you also have to file a faxback to become member.
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believe me, i never sent any faxbackform to a RIVAL casino, i know this faxbackform rule only on RTG casinos, but maybe it depends on where you live ;)

Why should i ask the support, i known that this is normal,if you make a withdrawal on a RIVAL casino, that you get no more such good bonuses, like before, although i didn't expect this from Slotocash :(
 
it doesnt depend where you live, just check sloto website youll find it explained.

try it maybe you get a better status afterwards.

and its always good to ask support what happened. i also experienced that some rivals give you better offers if you ask for it.



cheers

coxwel
 
eu_lowroller said:
believe me, i never sent any faxbackform to a RIVAL casino, i know this faxbackform rule only on RTG casinos, but maybe it depends on where you live ;)

Why should i ask the support, i known that this is normal,if you make a withdrawal on a RIVAL casino, that you get no more such good bonuses, like before, although i didn't expect this from Slotocash :(
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For slotocash, they have a faxback form to join Club Sloto and that isnt the usual faxback form for withdrawals. I sent in the form and was informed that I had since then joined Club Sloto. However, what bugs me is that they pulled the VIP bonus from me though I had never cashed out even once from this promo which I had claimed several times.
 
coxwel said:
try it maybe you get a better status afterwards.
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what should i try when i'm current a VIP there since 2 years? ;)

but i've written an email to the vip manager and let's see what i got back, because i got now also very rarly ND bonuses and before some time i got after every lost deposit a little ND bonus and even the monthly cashback bonus is now gone, although i've made the last 3 months 20 deposits with $700 and cashed out only $330, but maybe it's because i'm only a lowroller? :(

for some people here these are probably peanuts, but for me that's a lot money, because for $700 i have to work about 2 weeks ;)
 
ok, yesterday i had vry much luck and could make $175 from only $3 com points :)

but, after now 12 hours the cashout is still processing and not approved,, although i always got the casbhouts within 2-6 hours maximum, so what have now changed?

Spoke with live support and got told "It normally takes between 24-48 hours, " and then this "But you will recieve your withdrawal in 24-28 hours." so something HAVE changed :(
 
Moneybookers withdrawals - we are currently experiencing a technical problem with Moneybooker payments. However Sloto'Cash still pays withdrawals within 24 hours if all requested documents have been approved.

Can you PM me with more information regarding support, as we have not had any other reported problems.

Thanks

Ms Sloto
 
Sloto said:
Moneybookers withdrawals - we are currently experiencing a technical problem with Moneybooker payments.
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that's not good news and now we are about 46 hours withdrawal processing time, but i was told in the chat support, that i get my money today, so i'll waiting for it ;)
 
ok, now we're about 49 hours and after beeing 2 years a VIP user, this is really not acceptable for me, so i'll never play there again, sorry!

even your support have no clue, why i've got not my withdrawal yet, so what's now really going on here?

first i was told it takes 24-28 hours, then i was told, that i should get my withdrawal today, and now we have wednesday and nothing happend :(
 
Unfortunately we are experiencing a technical problem with moneybookers and we were unable to give an exact time period this would get fixed today. However I can confirm from information we have received from Moneybookers this will be fixed tomorrow. I understand your frustration however sometimes problems do occur and we try our best to resolve such issues immediately.

Thank you for your understanding.
 
after now about 60 hours finally received, thanks, although i'm not sure, if i should deposit there again, because i don't want to wait so long for a withdrawal, sorry :(
 
come on, its not that bad:rolleyes:

sloto is always fast, you know you will be paid for sure if one day before or later.-...:cool:


cheers


coxwel
 
coxwel said:
come on, its not that bad:rolleyes:
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waht? sorry, but 60 hours is always much too late, no matter if the casino is even the very best out there, but 2 1/2 days waiting time is for me really unacceptable, because i never play at casinos which takes more then 24 hours for a withdrawal, but you can certainly wait 2-3 weeks for a withdrawal, if you like this!
 
eu_lowroller said:
waht? sorry, but 60 hours is always much too late, no matter if the casino is even the very best out there, but 2 1/2 days waiting time is for me really unacceptable, because i never play at casinos which takes more then 24 hours for a withdrawal, but you can certainly wait 2-3 weeks for a withdrawal, if you like this!
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eu_lowroller, maybe you need to use a different deposit and withdrawal method. I made a cashout at SlotO yesterday morning for a size-able amount to my "UseMyWallet" (QT) account and very early this morning it was sitting there in my eWallet account...in less that 24 hours by the way!

These peeps at SlotO do not mess around with your cashouts and you know this but now you have one time that it was out of their control and you want to dump them...come on man, get real!. :rolleyes:
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RobWin said:
These peeps at SlotO do not mess around with your cashouts and you know this but now you have one time that it was out of their control and you want to dump them...come on man, get real!. :rolleyes:
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sorry, but when i'm there a VIP since 2 years and i have to wait 60 hours for a moneybookers withdrawal (why should i change to a another e-wallet which is more expensive and complicated, when i can deposit with moneybookers in real time and without any costs!?) and i don't get at least a excuse mail or a little bonus for the long waitin gtime, then i know how they think about me and i can spend my $25 dollars every week also in another casinos so i'm surely not depending on them ;)

it's not onlyx about the 60 hours time, it's also about their chat support lies, because first they said 24-28 hours, then at the next day and then again the next day and since we see how serious rival casinos can be (dendera casino's bonuses *lol*) i don't give a damn on them and stick to RTG casinos on which i know at least, that i get paid within at latest 24 hours!

And it's always MY decision, where i play and where i'll give my money, so it should not be yours :)

Good Night!
 
eu_lowroller said:
sorry, but when i'm there a VIP since 2 years and i have to wait 60 hours for a moneybookers withdrawal (why should i change to a another e-wallet which is more expensive and complicated, when i can deposit with moneybookers in real time and without any costs!?) and i don't get at least a excuse mail or a little bonus for the long waitin gtime, then i know how they think about me and i can spend my $25 dollars every week also in another casinos so i'm surely not depending on them ;)

it's not onlyx about the 60 hours time, it's also about their chat support lies, because first they said 24-28 hours, then at the next day and then again the next day and since we see how serious rival casinos can be (dendera casino's bonuses *lol*) i don't give a damn on them and stick to RTG casinos on which i know at least, that i get paid within at latest 24 hours!

And it's always MY decision, where i play and where i'll give my money, so it should not be yours :)

Good Night!
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Absolutely I agree with you about that, no need to get yo panties in a wad about it though...:p

But you also state that you have been a VIP there for 2 years now...so that tells me that they must have taken purdy damn good care of you for the past two years for you to stick with them for 2 years now...correct ;)
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eu_lowroller said:
waht? sorry, but 60 hours is always much too late, no matter if the casino is even the very best out there, but 2 1/2 days waiting time is for me really unacceptable, because i never play at casinos which takes more then 24 hours for a withdrawal, but you can certainly wait 2-3 weeks for a withdrawal, if you like this!
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sloto paid me in an acceptable timeframe compared to all other rival casinos. if it doesnt exceed 48hours i dont care. if youre vip for 2years i agree they should have been quicker but they explained, apologized. tech issues can always happen.

ps: you say you only play in casinos which pay in 24hours max, but according to some posts or winner screenshots of yours i see you also play in casinos which f.e. pay within 2days:p :)

anyway what i wanna say, relax;) main thing is the casino is safe and fair and has a good and functional support. if a cashout takes 24 or 48 hours is less important than the trust, i can wait if i wait without worries;)


cheers

coxwel
 
coxwel said:
ps: you say you only play in casinos which pay in 24hours max, but according to some posts or winner screenshots of yours i see you also play in casinos which f.e. pay within 2days:p :)
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ok, if it's a ND bonus, then i don't care, because it's not my money ;)

patient is not really my strenght ;) *lol*
 
One of the advantages of being a forum member is belonging to a group of people with similar interests. Instead of complaining to each other, while more sympathetic ears would be impossible to find, why not mob a casino or to to lower some WRs before any of us deposits there again?

I, personally, could tolerate the agony of not depositing at Sloto'Cash for a week or two if I was part of a mob in exchange for a 100% match deposit bonus with a 13X(deposit + bonus).

We could call it "collective bargaining", yeah! Collective Bargaining! Now that's the ticket!

It could go something like this:

Dear Casino blah-blah,

We, the undersigned, all being account holders and regular depositors at your casino, would greatly appreciate a return to simpler times, when we all participated in 100% deposit match bonuses at Casino blah-blah with a mere 13X(deposit+bonus). - or whatever we decide

We don't care about anybody else, just please notify us when you realize that you really, really oughta kick down and make something like this available for us to claim in our, individual My Promotions area of your cashier (the sooner the better for YOU!) and then we will deposit and play again! And don't worry - this can be our little secret. ;)

Sincerely,

A Buncha Degenerate Gamblers Who Miss You!:

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A friendly note to alla youse: I normally don't opt into bonuses, but this just occurred to me from reading the thread. If this would work for anyone, I'm down for players, naturally. If not, fine. Just don't start debating me about it! I don't care enough and won't reply, anyhow.
 
bernynhel:
We could call it "collective bargaining", yeah! Collective Bargaining! Now that's the ticket!
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Too funny! But I love it...now where do I sign up?? Oh, yea..there it is!

A Buncha Degenerate Gamblers Who Might/Maybe will Miss You!:
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