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What is going on with Rival? Now Slotto cash

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Bonus Issues' started by clj7221, Sep 28, 2009.

    Sep 28, 2009
  1. clj7221

    clj7221 Dormant account

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    Am I missing something here? has something changed with Rival casinos? I have been playing Slotto for over a year and never ever got such an outragious Multiplier. Multipliers insanely high and the new cashout rules in this promo is Casino greed.



    Get a $25 bonus on your next deposit!
    Deposit must be at least $25 to qualify. Maximum bonus amount: $$25.
    40x bonus playthrough ($1000)
    Playthrough is the amount that must be wagered (put at risk) before you may cashout.


    Unless otherwise stated, 1 credit wagered in a game counts as 1 credit toward playthrough requirements. Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive.
    1x minimum cashout
    You may only cashout amounts greater than your deposit plus 1 times the bonus. For example, if you deposit $100 and receive a $100 bonus with a 1x cashout, you may cashout any amount greater than $200. Additional deposits, reversals, bonuses or comp point redemptions do not count towards this minimum cashout restriction.


    The following games and any variants may have different table limits while this promotion is active: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive
    Your table limits may change while this promotion is active.


    Valid from 2009-09-16 00:00:00 to 2012-09-16 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
    The casino's general terms and conditions apply.
     
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  2. Sep 28, 2009
  3. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    You might be missing that it's bonus only x40 = (Deposit+Bonus)x20

    This has gone up since last month, because when I checked all Rival casinos for SlotBeaters, Sloto'Cash was only (D+B)x15.
    This is a very worrying trend - I already started a thread earlier this month about how Rival casinos seem to be losing the plot over bonuses.
    That said, (D+B)x 20 isn't tooooo bad, but it is a shame to see Sloto of all people increasing their WR above what most MGs offer. This change will move them down from 4th to =7th best Rival sign-up bonus out of the 24 I list on my site.

    KK
     
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  4. Sep 28, 2009
  5. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    EXECUTIVE
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    You are late.:p

    Sloto did this to me more than half a year ago. The WRs were 20x but the bonus was not cashable. Other terms were the same including the 1x min cashout. I was disgusted but didnt really make a big fuss of it and have never played there since. I am down at this casino and had never cashed out from their monthly 100% promos which was 15x WR and where some other table games could be played.
     
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  6. Sep 28, 2009
  7. clj7221

    clj7221 Dormant account

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    Another one this morning.

    Get a $500 bonus on your next deposit!
    Deposit must be at least $500 to qualify. Maximum bonus amount: $$500.
    40x bonus playthrough ($20000)
    Playthrough is the amount that must be wagered (put at risk) before you may cashout.


    Unless otherwise stated, 1 credit wagered in a game counts as 1 credit toward playthrough requirements. Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive.
    1x minimum cashout
    You may only cashout amounts greater than your deposit plus 1 times the bonus. For example, if you deposit $100 and receive a $100 bonus with a 1x cashout, you may cashout any amount greater than $200. Additional deposits, reversals, bonuses or comp point redemptions do not count towards this minimum cashout restriction.


    The following games and any variants may have different table limits while this promotion is active: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, Slot Progressive
    Your table limits may change while this promotion is active.


    Valid from 2009-09-16 00:00:00 to 2012-09-16 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
    The casino's general terms and conditions apply.



     
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  8. Sep 28, 2009
  9. clj7221

    clj7221 Dormant account

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    Kendra -Simon says Casino

    Here is something Positive , Kendra from Simon says Casino removed the Bonus ban on me. I appreciate that Kendra Thank you. I also checked out the bonuses they offered me in my account and the multipliers are great!
     
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  10. Sep 28, 2009
  11. oldtrvlagt

    oldtrvlagt Dormant account

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    I saw that same bonus this morning.....even with $1000 to play with the chances of hitting the $20K playthrough are astronomical! I played with a 100% bonus this weekend...deposited $100 and received $100...I didn't get a bonus round past 5X my bet anywhere! It didn't matter if it was a $.40 bet or $1. They were TERRIBLE! So 20K...outrageous:eek:
     
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  12. Sep 28, 2009
  13. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    This is a MIN cashout bonus. It is somewhat predatory to lure large deposits with this kind of promotion, since even if WR is met, the player may never be able to catch enough of an upswing in variance to reach 2x bonus for cashing out. Better to deposit small amounts, and this significantly increases the chance of catching an upswing, and being able to hang on to this upswing until WR has been completed.

    I thought Rival casinos were worried about "advantage players", yet this kind of mathematically complicated bonus favours the advantage player, who WILL beat it given a few tries. It is the NON advantage player that will see the 100%, and not worry too much about the underlying complications, and so will make a single large deposit, rather than a smaller one.

    Microgaming casinos use a standard 30x bonus for SLOTS, but these tend to be fully cashable bonuses, and other games are weighted, rather than banned (except in the case of the more generous welcome bonuses).

    It is annoying, and somewhat predatory, that rather than use "plain speak" casinos always say:-

    Rather than :-

    The problem with the former is that often a complaint results from a player playing a game that is not specifically listed, but the casino says it MEANT to list it, because in fact the casino MEANT it to be a purely slots only bonus, but failed to list every non-slot game in the list.

    The latter is a far tighter definition of what games can be played because it is a list of ALLOWED games, rather than of DISALLOWED games.

    If SlotoCash is now playing this "game" with bonuses and the central database, they will no longer stand above other Rivals as a place to play - they will just be another member of a mediocre pack of casinos.
     
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  14. Sep 28, 2009
  15. gambblex

    gambblex Expanding Wild

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    Outrageous promo?

    CASINO greed?

    Maybe I'm a retard but I clearly see 30xBONUS playtrough for Monday's promos at Sloto

    View attachment 19187
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2009
  16. Sep 28, 2009
  17. clj7221

    clj7221 Dormant account

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    I found from my experience that anything much higher then 20 multiplier is difficult to cash in. Perhaps your new at this because a 30 multiplier is nothing much to smile about. When I play I like to have a fair chance at cashing in. Also, this post was about the high multipliers slotto cash sent me this week. When your Multipliers start going in to the 40x and 50x 's then come back and tell us how much you enjoy them.

     
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  18. Sep 28, 2009
  19. gambblex

    gambblex Expanding Wild

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    It is usually called "Playtrough", it never has ben called "Multiplier"

    I've never heard that one guy forced another to take the bonus

    Mistaking casinos for charities seems to be common tning

    x30 bonus=15 D+B ,no?

    Is it OUTRAGEOUS?
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2009
  20. Sep 28, 2009
  21. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Playtrough? Excellent term and perfectly describes what the casinos are digging for us though you probably meant something else. I wouldnt have come up with that word even if I had tried.:lolup:
     
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  22. Sep 28, 2009
  23. gambblex

    gambblex Expanding Wild

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    :what::confused::eek2: .........:oops:

    Just a recent addition to 21 Century gambler's vocabulary

    (R-ouge
    S-luts
    L-ooooose
    and so on)
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2009
  24. Sep 28, 2009
  25. clj7221

    clj7221 Dormant account

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    LOL I agree chu chu, playthrough, another word for how many times we have to play it through before there is no chance of cashing in.

     
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  26. Sep 29, 2009
  27. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Er, actually I had the word playtrough in mind the word as used in 'peaks and troughs'. I would like to think they are sort of digging us a hole to step into.:D
     
  28. Sep 29, 2009
  29. clj7221

    clj7221 Dormant account

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    I was talking about "Play through" I ignored the "Play trough" looked liked a spelling error to me.

     
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  30. Nov 23, 2009
  31. eu_lowroller

    eu_lowroller Non-Gambler

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    Call Center Agent
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    Austria
    Since my last withdrawal i got also only 100% bonuses with a 20 WR deposit + bonus and even the 25% bonuses (which i never use!) have a 18x WR on it.

    Very confusing is also their wording for the monday madness bonus, like mentioned in the first posting in this thread, because normaly sloto write always the WR of deposit + bonus, but here is written 40x WR the bonus, which is at least only 20x deposit + bonus, but at the first time i didn't read this, because i never expected this from sloto, so i thought that it is 40x deposit + bonus and this were a little bit too much for me *lol*

    But 20x WR is okay. :)
     
  32. Dec 2, 2009
  33. eu_lowroller

    eu_lowroller Non-Gambler

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    Call Center Agent
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    Austria
    Now they even started with a 100% bonus which have a 20x WR and is NOT cashable, so i see this today at the very first time on any bonus on Slotocash :(

    Not a good sign.
     
  34. Dec 2, 2009
  35. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    Boston
    to me these realy mean bonner to you 30,times and no cash out but please, try out our take the player for a ride game :D:D:D
     
  36. Dec 2, 2009
  37. anniemac

    anniemac Ueber Meister MM PABnoaccred

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    Texas, USA
    My bonuses at Slotocash haven't changed. I have one that is my 100% VIP Gold which is 15X deposit and bonus and the Wed. bonus 50% which is 15x deposit and bonus. All cashable.

    I don't see any difference in these bonuses and RTG's that are 20x D&B at CW or 30x D&B at Casino Titan - non cashable.

    I'm not saying I like the playthru but if you take a bonus, then you agree to the terms. :)
     
  38. Dec 3, 2009
  39. eu_lowroller

    eu_lowroller Non-Gambler

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    Probably it depends on how much you've deposited there in the past and certainly, how much you've withdrawed ;)
     

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