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I don't have a problem with Free Tickets, tbh. As a "real" regular at VS I always wager much more than EUR500 per week and don't care how others get access. Main point is I have and always will. Wagering EUR500 in a week is "peanuts" so to speak.

Don't you think that some of the measures in the past weeks have been made to separate the wheat from the chaff? In such that "real" regulars are getting better rewarded than the opportunists who swing by the casino and deposit only just enough, and that almost down to the penny, to have access to the SnGs, CM promos etc.

I would say it was about time VS is concetrating more on those who actually bring the profit.
TBH Harry, the posts reads as rather contrary to WHAT the battles are for the following 2 reasons:
1. 500 is NOT that simple for low rollers, as several here have had to dep several times to meet requirements and
2. VS has said time and again, these battles are geared SPECIFICALLY toward the low-rollers. For example, around here - the people that DON'T at all struggle to meet the requirements are the people who honestly dont give a toss about the SnGs anyway
I'm not having a go at you - I just don't happen to agree on some points. (ex - Yes, i do agree there are those who dont come in and participate and only come for the rewards - but a lot of these people ARE regular depositors. I depped hundreds this month and didnt meet requirements for this freeroll)
 
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I didnt say i did not wager £500 I only said I didnt deposit

I got that but one way or another you didn't full fill the SNG requirements and could still play it so VS create rules but don't enforce them

@Harry; I agree with you about VS trying to reward the regulars and the people who really spend money there and I like that very much; but until they fix the "glitches" in their systems we will have to cope with the frustration :)
 
TBH Harry, the posts reads as rather contrary to WHAT the battles are for the following 2 reasons:
1. 500 is NOT that simple for low rollers, as several here have had to dep several times to meet requirements anduld
2. VS has said time and again, these battles are geared SPECIFICALLY toward the low-rollers. For example, around here - the people that DON'T at all struggle to meet the requirements are the people who honestly dont give a toss about the SnGs anyway
I'm not having a go at you - I just don't happen to agree on some points. (ex - Yes, i do agree there are those who dont come in and participate and only come for the rewards - but a lot of these people ARE regular depositors. I depped hundreds this month and didnt meet requirements for this freeroll)

are you saying that you are not playing the current SNG? If they fix the problems; there is still plenty of time left to play so I think that VS should give you a free ticket like others have so that you can play too :)
 
TBH Harry, the posts reads as rather contrary to WHAT the battles are for the following 2 reasons:
1. 500 is NOT that simple for low rollers, as several here have had to dep several times to meet requirements and
2. VS has said time and again, these battles are geared SPECIFICALLY toward the low-rollers. For example, around here - the people that DON'T at all struggle to meet the requirements are the people who honestly dont give a toss about the SnGs anyway
I'm not having a go at you - I just don't happen to agree on some points. (ex - Yes, i do agree there are those who dont come in and participate and only come for the rewards - but a lot of these people ARE regular depositors. I depped hundreds this month and didnt meet requirements for this freeroll)

I understand that 500 in 5 days is harder than 200 in 30 days, but it does exactly what VS is looking for. Don't you understand that? They have to cut cost to stay profitable, pure and simple. And SnG's are a cost to them!

Wagering 500 is manageable even for low-rollers with a EUR100 budget / week. If you can't afford more, than you are not a "real" regular, you are a recreational player who has an occasional punt. Sorry, if that sounds blunt but that is the reality from the casino's perspective.
 
It is really funny...... 10-/30-mans have been running smooth as silk for the last 45 minutes.

Not a single positive comment from all the "complainers". :rolleyes:

Wait for the first hick-up and the pitchforks will be out again. :D

The question is how long it will run that way ;)
 
are you saying that you are not playing the current SNG? If they fix the problems; there is still plenty of time left to play so I think that VS should give you a free ticket like others have so that you can play too :)
I'm not too fussed about it much - I didnt agree with the limited time frame is all. My mother has an acct and she plays. But even she wouldnt have qualified but for the added deposits despite the many (large) deposits over the month.

Honestly, I don't really give much care either way. I see both sides - VS is in a pickle and I'm sure arent thrilled. Players are unhappy and I see why.
I understand the kvetching, but disagree with the banging on.
 
It is really funny...... 10-/30-mans have been running smooth as silk for the last 45 minutes.

Not a single positive comment from all the "complainers". :rolleyes:

Wait for the first hick-up and the pitchforks will be out again. :D
um, probably because theyre playing :P
 
I got that but one way or another you didn't full fill the SNG requirements and could still play it so VS create rules but don't enforce them

@Harry; I agree with you about VS trying to reward the regulars and the people who really spend money there and I like that very much; but until they fix the "glitches" in their systems we will have to cope with the frustration :)
The SNG are freerolls. my voucher gave me access to all freerolls for one day there were 8000 vouchers available to use. I started with a £8.40 race win and continued to play I entered buy in battles got prize money and had good luck, I didnt need to deposit any money, why would I deposit anything when I am already playing with real money in my account, I can post some pics of a couple of the battles I entered to keep me playing if you would like. or a picure of the VS email, without the code that is.
 
It is really funny...... 10-/30-mans have been running smooth as silk for the last 45 minutes.

Not a single positive comment from all the "complainers". :rolleyes:

Wait for the first hick-up and the pitchforks will be out again. :D


I was actually going to comment on that but didnt want to jinx it :D
 
I understand that 500 in 5 days is harder than 200 in 30 days, but it does exactly what VS is looking for. Don't you understand that? They have to cut cost to stay profitable, pure and simple. And SnG's are a cost to them!

Wagering 500 is manageable even for low-rollers with a EUR100 budget / week. If you can't afford more, than you are not a "real" regular, you are a recreational player who has an occasional punt. Sorry, if that sounds blunt but that is the reality from the casino's perspective.
I don't disagree with the change - I disagreed with the short notice in which it was handled is all ;)
and ps - youre a little more flush than most if you think 100EUR a week is low rolling :)
 
The SNG are freerolls. my voucher gave me access to all freerolls for one day there were 8000 vouchers available to use. I started with a £8.40 race win and continued to play I entered buy in battles got prize money and had good luck, I didnt need to deposit any money, why would I deposit anything when I am already playing with real money in my account, I can post some pics of a couple of the battles I entered to keep me playing if you would like. or a picure of the VS email, without the code that is.

It is your right to use a voucher as you please, period!

However, for VS the 20 deposit is not really what counts, it is the 500 wagering as that is their revenue. So if you managed to wager the 500 with other stuff, fair play to you.

It would have been maybe wise though to withdraw 20 at some point and re-deposit, so you fulfill both requirements for the full SnG access .
 
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re - If you can't afford more, than you are not a "real" regular, you are a recreational player who has an occasional punt. Sorry, if that sounds blunt but that is the reality from the casino's perspective.
I'm not certain about your 'perspective' - a thousand people at 20 a pop keep the lights on - bread and butter loyalty wins over high rollers who may whale and run
 
I understand that 500 in 5 days is harder than 200 in 30 days, but it does exactly what VS is looking for. Don't you understand that? They have to cut cost to stay profitable, pure and simple. And SnG's are a cost to them!

Wagering 500 is manageable even for low-rollers with a EUR100 budget / week. If you can't afford more, than you are not a "real" regular, you are a recreational player who has an occasional punt. Sorry, if that sounds blunt but that is the reality from the casino's perspective.
very true indeed I can deposit £20 a week if im lucky mostly its £10 a week to have a bit of fun nothing more, like everyone else sometimes you get lucky. i got lucky after a battle win and played the battleship game on 20p stakes and own the major £100 win right there and thats what kept me going I didnt even have to deposit it was from race winnings. yeah I got a voucher bloody good for me and everyone else that got the same email I didnt even think it would work to be honest but you never know.
 
I don't disagree with the change - I disagreed with the short notice in which it was handled is all ;)
and ps - youre a little more flush than most if you think 100EUR a week is low rolling :)


Yeah I would agree that if 100 a week is low rolling then im not a low roller either maybe a micro roller :(
 
It is your right to use a voucher as you please, period!

However, for VS the 20 deposit is not really what counts, it is the 500 wagering as that is their revenue. So if you managed to wager the 500 with other stuff, fair play to you.

I would have been maybe wise though to withdraw 20 at some point and re-deposit, so you fulfill both requirements for the full SnG access .
i cant withdraw till they decide to deactivate my old card
 
I'd qualify for Battles/ SnGs without even trying, or wanting to :laugh: I don't think it's terribly hard to do. But 100 Euros a week is beyond many's remit and a tad detached from reality in all honesty :D

Saying that, I'm definitely a lowroller of the highest order and was pretty certain VS built their reputation around the small fry, to dismiss that now would indeed be doing a full 180 whilst flipping the bird.

Also doesn't explain or excuse the countless technical issues that plague every single SnG, at what point do the excuses wear thin and they get it to run properly?
 
Dio, please do the maths. a 20 depo, lets say 100 wagered with that is $4 in revenue for the casino. Doesn't even cover the cost of race winnings and cashback, maybe barely.
then maybe they shouldnt constantly flout the battles are, have always been, and always will be, for low rollers as a key selling point of/for them ;)

and ftr, ive stated, before often, I happen to AGREE the battles arent cost-efficient and were never going to be be maintained - that doesnt alter peoples gripes.
Take Linda for example. You seemed aghast she had the nerve to express her (somewhat) displeasure - this from a woman whod barely say say shit if her mouth were full of it :P Her points were valid.
 
Dio, please do the maths. a 20 depo, lets say 100 wagered with that is $4 in revenue for the casino. Doesn't even cover the cost of race winnings and cashback, maybe barely.


Harry, can you please teach me, give me some of your luck or just point me to the games that allow you to wager so easy as lately with £20 i get about £46 wagering done lol
 
Harry, can you please teach me, give me some of your luck or just point me to the games that allow you to wager so easy as lately with £20 i get about £46 wagering done lol
step 1: start with his large bankroll


teasing Harry :P
 
then maybe they shouldnt constantly flout the battles are, have always been, and always will be, for low rollers as a key selling point of/for them ;)

and ftr, ive stated, before often, I happen to AGREE the battles arent cost-efficient and were never going to be be maintained - that doesnt alter peoples gripes.
Take Linda for example. You seemed aghast she had the nerve to express her (somewhat) displeasure - this from a woman whod barely say say shit if her mouth were full of it :p Her points were valid.

They will still be a selling point because it is still not much of a requirement. Will it lead to some people not being able to make, sure, but that is the aim of the measure, IMO.

I answered to Linda's post because she has been around long enough to know that VS almost always makes up for any issues/problems.
 
It is really funny...... 10-/30-mans have been running smooth as silk for the last 45 minutes.

Not a single positive comment from all the "complainers". :rolleyes:

Yes it took almost 24 hours. So why to give something positive comments?
I don't want to be rude but seriously whole VS "imperium" is coming down and fast. I don't want it, you don't want it and VS don't want it. But that's the truth. I really love these exclusive promotions etc. Service from VS personally has always been 10/10. But this all else. I can give 1/10.
 
I'd qualify for Battles/ SnGs without even trying, or wanting to :laugh: I don't think it's terribly hard to do. But 100 Euros a week is beyond many's remit and a tad detached from reality in all honesty :D

Saying that, I'm definitely a lowroller of the highest order and was pretty certain VS built their reputation around the small fry, to dismiss that now would indeed be doing a full 180 whilst flipping the bird.

Also doesn't explain or excuse the countless technical issues that plague every single SnG, at what point do the excuses wear thin and they get it to run properly?

Welcome to our nice discussion Sir ;)
 
Harry, can you please teach me, give me some of your luck or just point me to the games that allow you to wager so easy as lately with £20 i get about £46 wagering done lol

step 1: start with his large bankroll

teasing Harry :p

To be honest, I barely made it this week as the games have been in a really bad mood and also due to my bi-weekly gaming kitty fill-up which I lost in the last week and had to rely on leftovers to make it over the line.

Come next week, would have been different as the next fill-up is due.

Dio - the large bankroll is gone, on purpose, it is now not more than EUR1K / month. :)
 
They will still be a selling point because it is still not much of a requirement. Will it lead to some people not being able to make, sure, but that is the aim of the measure, IMO.

I answered to Linda's post because she has been around long enough to know that VS almost always makes up for any issues/problems.
But again, I agree with the change - it was the manner in which it was handled - ie short notice during a holiday period after a previously discontinued battle. For example, people would know, that dont have have excess monies to spend, will now know to cater their deposits NEAR the qualifying period if they want to take part.

And yes, I'm certain Linda is aware VS will make good - that doesnt invalidate her gripe.

Anyway, positive or negative, its all good feddback irresptive of the side taken
 
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To be honest, I barely made it this week as the games have been in a really bad mood and also due to my bi-weekly gaming kitty fill-up which I lost in the last week and had to rely on leftovers to make it over the line.

Come next week, would have been different as the next fill-up is due.

Dio - the large bankroll is gone, on purpose, it is now not more than EUR1K / month. :)
as half the room looks like this > :eek2: > bankroll is gone... it is now not more than EUR1K / month :D
 
But again, I agree with the change - it was the manner in which it was handled - ie short notice during a holiday period after a previously discontinued battle. For example, people would know, that dont have have excess monies to spend, will now know to cater their deposits NEAR the qualifying period if they want to take part.

And yes, I'm certain Linda is aware VS will make good - that doesnt invalidate her gripe.

Anyway, positive or negative, its all good feddback irresptive of the side taken

Fully agree with the manner, and I mentioned that in a post some 50 pages back. They should have given players more time to make sure they can save up their budget.
 
To be honest, I barely made it this week as the games have been in a really bad mood and also due to my bi-weekly gaming kitty fill-up which I lost in the last week and had to rely on leftovers to make it over the line.

Come next week, would have been different as the next fill-up is due.

Dio - the large bankroll is gone, on purpose, it is now not more than EUR1K / month. :)


I would kill for a 1k a month play kitty :)

I did have a load left in my yearly one which of course resets soon new year etc so played a bit higher than usual as a year end blow out but did 1400 in one night to only get 650 back ouch

So back to usual now with only 200 a month or so...

And the fact i not placed a single battle since they fixed is not helping! 4th and 5ths all the time Grrrr
 
knew someone would Jinx it...... well i did also win my first 2nd place since the fix so it might of been me lol

Tell me about it..... 4 rewards in the last 90 minutes and I don't even come close ...9th or 10th in a 10-mans and 25th to 30th in 30-mans :oops:

I got more rewards when the battles had issues ...LOOOL.

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I was just miffed because of the mess, it was making it impossible to deposit. I played a few of the SNG's, but I was never thrilled about them to begin with. BUT, I was able to withdrawal 1900 at another casino because of this with a 70 deposit :D

Congratz Evil Bebo good Job.
 
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