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[colinsunderland]

Scroll on bye it you like, What the hell is going on with the freerolls? Two hour long battles equates to an almost given of not placing! They were bad before, but now the absolutely suck! The ones for Canadians you can't even place most times because now its 48 or more players. The ones that are placing in the top 10 are not names of anyone of us regulars know. So what does that mean? Looking more and more like being fixed. I don't want to hear that its " free" because it bloody well isn't, and you know most of us dont make shit on there to cash out, even after depositing hundreds, so what ever measly points we can get we will. I like you Dan, and if it wasn't for your loyalty to us, i would be long gone! But seriously, the casino can pretty it up all it wants but in a lot of our eyes its failing to produce loyalty all around. Seriously who are these people that are placing first? Fake names? End of rant!

Don't forget that many battles are full so you can't take part, which is a piss take.
Most battles are 10p stake now, so anything you do win is less.
Hardly win any spins now compared to before, and if you do it tends to be 5 x 10p spins.

Loyalty isn't VS's strong suit, I've hardly made a deposit there over the last month

 

[bebo67]

Don't forget that many battles are full so you can't take part, which is a piss take.
Most battles are 10p stake now, so anything you do win is less.
Hardly win any spins now compared to before, and if you do it tends to be 5 x 10p spins.

Loyalty isn't VS's strong suit, I've hardly made a deposit there over the last month

The argument will be that raising the length of time too two hours is so more can join, but the reality is that the longer it is, the odds decrease dramatically. And again these names that are placing that no one knows and they are never out there more then once? If you stick a fake name out there, then you dont have to pay out the first place prize to anyone, right? I know for a fact that free spins costs the casinos money.

 

[DreamRJ]

Don't forget that many battles are full so you can't take part, which is a piss take.
Most battles are 10p stake now, so anything you do win is less.
Hardly win any spins now compared to before, and if you do it tends to be 5 x 10p spins.

Loyalty isn't VS's strong suit, I've hardly made a deposit there over the last month

I too cant win in the free rolls.

It seems the site as been growing at an astounding rate, and the battles have just fell behind. The increases they have done are just not cutting it.

Take for example the first month the battles was introduced. There was only like between 50-100 players in each freerolls. And prizes was for the top 25 if I remember or close to it anyway. Then gradually they increased them as more played them, They was keeping up with it at that point. But the sudden increase in members the last few months have basically crept upon them and they just fell far behind with the freeroll prizes.

2,000 free spins for maximum of 1,000 players just isnt cutting it.

when only 174 places get free spins. Whereas in the early days it was about 1 out of 3 people won spins. So you see the ratio is now 1 in every 5 people win some free spins.

Take for example the weekend battles they increase them to 4,000 and 5,000 and they allow 2,000 people to join. I have not seen that 2,000 get maxed yet either. there is usually about 1,400 in them on average at weekends.

So then that brings me back to the weekday ones. So the differences between the weekend player count compared to the weekday ones prove at peak times that many players are unable to join them because the maxed is reached. This has never really been a problem before.

So what @Dan needs to do is get them to make the weekday ones the same as the weekend ones, and also increase the player count to 2,000 then you could make the weekend ones have 10,000 free spins available. this gives more people chances to actually get some spins, like it used to be when they was new.

I am in no way complaining because as I have said in the past in previous posts. They do not have to do these battles. They could stop them when ever they want.

I just look at them as a extra freebie chance. Nothing more.

So @dan if you see this post. It would be great if you could look into improving them so that more people can actually win like we used to be able too.

I haven't personally won any free spins in battles for the last week. Not once not even 5 spins, nothing, zero, ziltch........

Over and out peace out

 

[bebo67]

I too cant win in the free rolls.

It seems the site as been growing at an astounding rate, and the battles have just fell behind. The increases they have done are just not cutting it.

Take for example the first month the battles was introduced. There was only like between 50-100 players in each freerolls. And prizes was for the top 25 if I remember or close to it anyway. Then gradually they increased them as more played them, They was keeping up with it at that point. But the sudden increase in members the last few months have basically crept upon them and they just fell far behind with the freeroll prizes.

2,000 free spins for maximum of 1,000 players just isnt cutting it.

when only 174 places get free spins. Whereas in the early days it was about 1 out of 3 people won spins. So you see the ratio is now 1 in every 5 people win some free spins.

Take for example the weekend battles they increase them to 4,000 and 5,000 and they allow 2,000 people to join. I have not seen that 2,000 get maxed yet either. there is usually about 1,400 in them on average at weekends.

So then that brings me back to the weekday ones. So the differences between the weekend player count compared to the weekday ones prove at peak times that many players are unable to join them because the maxed is reached. This has never really been a problem before.

So what @Dan needs to do is get them to make the weekday ones the same as the weekend ones, and also increase the player count to 2,000 then you could make the weekend ones have 10,000 free spins available. this gives more people chances to actually get some spins, like it used to be when they was new.

I am in no way complaining because as I have said in the past in previous posts. They do not have to do these battles. They could stop them when ever they want.

I just look at them as a extra freebie chance. Nothing more.

So @dan if you see this post. It would be great if you could look into improving them so that more people can actually win like we used to be able too.

I haven't personally won any free spins in battles for the last week. Not once not even 5 spins, nothing, zero, ziltch........

Over and out peace out

Welcome to my world. I have been placing in the 600's. I still want to know about those top 5 people. Im not letting that one go. You never see the same name more then once....ever!

 

[DreamRJ]

The argument will be that raising the length of time too two hours is so more can join, but the reality is that the longer it is, the odds decrease dramatically. And again these names that are placing that no one knows and they are never out there more then once? If you stick a fake name out there, then you dont have to pay out the first place prize to anyone, right? I know for a fact that free spins costs the casinos money.

I honestly can not believe some people at all.

I mean why can they always think casinos are doing dodgy stuff?

Why on earth do you think videoslots would create fake accounts and rig it so that fake account wins the first prize so they didn't have to pay out the 100 spins, usually valued at £10?

When they make a fortune as it is. Yet because there is sore losers who complain about these free battles then attack the casinos and say they are cheating etc etc blah blah blah.

Seriously get over yourselves and actually think about how bad your making yourself look.

I can 100% tell you and I bet other CM members could too. That I have won first place in some battles over the last year or so they have been on. Cant remember the exact amount of times I won first. but it is more than a handful. And I have placed in the top 10, at least over a hundred times.

But the last months I cant what so ever but do I rant complain and attack them saying they are cheats NO I do not. And I never will. Cos that is just silly bulls*it plain and simple.

 

[colinsunderland]

I am in no way complaining because as I have said in the past in previous posts. They do not have to do these battles. They could stop them when ever they want.

I just look at them as a extra freebie chance. Nothing more.

I agree with most your post, but not really on that bit. Their affiliate manager has stated the freerolls are an excellent retention tool that works very well, and that is the reason they run them. Bearing that in mind I would suggest it is extremely unlikely they will stop anytime soon.

I look at them as a loyalty offer. Unfortunately, quite often, not everyone eligible for the loyalty offer can take part. Same as the cashback and race are both loyalty offers.

 

[colinsunderland]

Welcome to my world. I have been placing in the 600's. I still want to know about those top 5 people. Im not letting that one go. You never see the same name more then once....ever!

To be fair to VS, if there are 1000 players in a battle, only 1% will be in the top 10, .5% in the top 5, the chances of them getting in the top 5/10 again are pretty low. I would be more concerned if you did see the same names in there!

The jokers though, I do see the same names over and over again getting jokers. I've played in battles where there have only been 5 players pre-regged, I, as usual don't get the joker, but from the other 4 I can regularly pick the one who does before the battle starts. I have played 100's of paid battles and think I've only had the joker once or twice. Not sure if thats a bad thing though as I don't think I've ever seen anyone win a battle with the joker.

 

[bebo67]

I honestly can not believe some people at all.

I mean why can they always think casinos are doing dodgy stuff?

Why on earth do you think videoslots would create fake accounts and rig it so that fake account wins the first prize so they didn't have to pay out the 100 spins, usually valued at £10?

When they make a fortune as it is. Yet because there is sore losers who complain about these free battles then attack the casinos and say they are cheating etc etc blah blah blah.

Seriously get over yourselves and actually think about how bad your making yourself look.

I can 100% tell you and I bet other CM members could too. That I have won first place in some battles over the last year or so they have been on. Cant remember the exact amount of times I won first. but it is more than a handful. And I have placed in the top 10, at least over a hundred times.

But the last months I cant what so ever but do I rant complain and attack them saying they are cheats NO I do not. And I never will. Cos that is just silly bulls*it plain and simple.

Pay heed. And getting pissed off at what I said is your prerogative. Everyone has a right to complain, and some rightfully so.

 

[DreamRJ]

Pay heed. And getting pissed off at what I said is your prerogative. Everyone has a right to complain, and some rightfully so.

I totally get that people have a right to complain. But calling casinos cheaters is in no way complaining. That is an attack on a perfectly reputable establishment. And if there is evidence to back those claims up then show it, instead of saying that they are cheating. Back it up or basically get of your high horse.................

Look I can 100% tell you that I too used to rant in LCB a lot when I used that forum. But I have changed soo much the last few years. I am completely different. Lets just say I was stupid and silly back then and what I have now learned the last few years and personal issues I have had to deal with has made me change for the better and not the worse.

I take each day now as it could be our last. Life is short. Complaining about losing and not winning doesn't get us anywhere and never will.

Instead we should focus on giving constructive feedback to the powers that be so that things might be altered and made better. To which is why my post above giving some Ideas for Dan to at least consider.

That is far better than being negative and complaining all the time. As I said life is far too short. I have had some health scares the last 2 years. Lost a very close childhood friend and amongst other things completely changed my views on a lot of subjects and life in general. Only thing I haven't changed is gambling apart from I look at it in completely different ways now. And when I lose which is the way it goes 99% of the time for me, I do not care. I do not get upset. I used to believe me. But as I said. I am a completely changed person.

 

[greylady]

Scroll on bye it you like, What the hell is going on with the freerolls? Two hour long battles equates to an almost given of not placing! They were bad before, but now the absolutely suck! The ones for Canadians you can't even place most times because now its 48 or more players. The ones that are placing in the top 10 are not names of anyone of us regulars know. So what does that mean? Looking more and more like being fixed. I don't want to hear that its " free" because it bloody well isn't, and you know most of us dont make shit on there to cash out, even after depositing hundreds, so what ever measly points we can get we will. I like you Dan, and if it wasn't for your loyalty to us, i would be long gone! But seriously, the casino can pretty it up all it wants but in a lot of our eyes its failing to produce loyalty all around. Seriously who are these people that are placing first? Fake names? End of rant!

Strangely enough bebo people in chat tonight were saying exactly the same, they don't recognise any of the names in the top 10 and it's all a marketing tool. It's a shame VS doesn't monitor chat as they would soon see how many disgruntled players there are out there.

I don't care anymore, stopped depositing at VS so I don't expect to win.

Keep your chin up

 

[bebo67]

I totally get that people have a right to complain. But calling casinos cheaters is in no way complaining. That is an attack on a perfectly reputable establishment. And if there is evidence to back those claims up then show it, instead of saying that they are cheating. Back it up or basically get of your high horse.................

Look I can 100% tell you that I too used to rant in LCB a lot when I used that forum. But I have changed soo much the last few years. I am completely different. Lets just say I was stupid and silly back then and what I have now learned the last few years and personal issues I have had to deal with has made me change for the better and not the worse.

I take each day now as it could be our last. Life is short. Complaining about losing and not winning doesn't get us anywhere and never will.

Instead we should focus on giving constructive feedback to the powers that be so that things might be altered and made better. To which is why my post above giving some Ideas for Dan to at least consider.

That is far better than being negative and complaining all the time. As I said life is far too short. I have had some health scares the last 2 years. Lost a very close childhood friend and amongst other things completely changed my views on a lot of subjects and life in general. Only thing I haven't changed is gambling apart from I look at it in completely different ways now. And when I lose which is the way it goes 99% of the time for me, I do not care. I do not get upset. I used to believe me. But as I said. I am a completely changed person.

We all have gone through life changes, myself included. That doesn't mean that when we observe something we should not voice our opinion. Mine isnt about not winning, because I have had some decent wins. Mine is about how the battles are being ran. And when you see things that don't add up, you're dam right I'm going to say something. It may not mesh with how you would voice things, but I have always been vocal with Dan concerning the battles. That is who I am. Again we all have had life changes. I pick my battles better then I use to, trust me on that.

 

[bebo67]

Strangely enough bebo people in chat tonight were saying exactly the same, they don't recognise any of the names in the top 10 and it's all a marketing tool. It's a shame VS doesn't monitor chat as they would soon see how many disgruntled players there are out there.

I don't care anymore, stopped depositing at VS so I don't expect to win.

Keep your chin up

Thanks Bella for posting this!

 

[bebo67]

I honestly can not believe some people at all.

I mean why can they always think casinos are doing dodgy stuff?

Why on earth do you think videoslots would create fake accounts and rig it so that fake account wins the first prize so they didn't have to pay out the 100 spins, usually valued at £10?

When they make a fortune as it is. Yet because there is sore losers who complain about these free battles then attack the casinos and say they are cheating etc etc blah blah blah.

Seriously get over yourselves and actually think about how bad your making yourself look.

I can 100% tell you and I bet other CM members could too. That I have won first place in some battles over the last year or so they have been on. Cant remember the exact amount of times I won first. but it is more than a handful. And I have placed in the top 10, at least over a hundred times.

But the last months I cant what so ever but do I rant complain and attack them saying they are cheats NO I do not. And I never will. Cos that is just silly bulls*it plain and simple.

Hey Dream. A little bit off topic but not really. Have you ever done Bitcoin? Have you ever gone on any exchanges? We are talking huge amounts of money being traded all the time. Currencies different then a casino battle I know.........but! A lot of traders will have bots going in under IP scramblers, this way they can have as many accounts as they please and have the bots programmed to be running 24/7. When you see new names always running in the top 5, you think newbies, but those newbies never come back. I have watched chat and watched smart people talk about how they can get around different aspects of the casino. Im not a novice when it comes to the computer either. So its not that far fetched for someone to have bots running. Small coin you say, but it all adds up. Something isnt adding up. The two hour long battles are killing us, and I would love for that to go back to the half hour wait time, but seriously pay attention. Thats all I ask. Everyone else is noticing it too. It may be a case of VS not knowing or knowing. Who knows.

 

[interlog]

It is simple maths. The more that participate the less your chance of winning. Back in the old days you had a good chance ending up in the paying position whereas now the chance is remote simply because of the number of participants.

The same can also be said for the race. More people fighting for the 6,000 odd positions.

Unless the rewards are increased in proportion to the increase of the numbers playing, the player will be put at a disadvantage.

I don't see any reason why Videoslots would cheat the player. If they are found out doing so, that will be the end of their reputation which counts more than some free spins that gets pumped back into the casino coffers anyway with the odd person making a withdrawal from it.

 

[DreamRJ]

It is simple maths. The more that participate the less your chance of winning. Back in the old days you had a good chance ending up in the paying position whereas now the chance is remote simply because of the number of participants.

The same can also be said for the race. More people fighting for the 6,000 odd positions.

Unless the rewards are increased in proportion to the increase of the numbers playing, the player will be put at a disadvantage.

I don't see any reason why Videoslots would cheat the player. If they are found out doing so, that will be the end of their reputation which counts more than some free spins that gets pumped back into the casino coffers anyway with the odd person making a withdrawal from it.

Yep couldn't agree more with this post.

But where you been the last few months?

It hasn't been 6,000 positions for about 2 months. It is now 8,915 positions in the casino race. They increase it nearly every 2-4 weeks.

 

[Supababe]

Just to add my 2p worth...

I love VS and am as loyal as can be.
Found battles hard to get into last weekend and the week before.
Not finished top 100 in months. Not finished top 500 for over a week.
With my last 5fs I won a grand total of 0.00.

But on balance, my paid game etc is still above 400% x

 

[Dinahnana]

Yep couldn't agree more with this post.

But where you been the last few months?

It hasn't been 6,000 positions for about 2 months. It is now 8,915 positions in the casino race. They increase it nearly every 2-4 weeks.

I agree also more people in battles and longer battles = less likely of a good outcome. I do ok for a couple of days nabbing between 15-5 free spins in several battles and then doing so badly for the next few days I finish in the last 250 in the 1,00 spin race and in the last 600 in the 2,000 spin race. I don't think it's rigged but I do think those pesky two hour battles have a lot to do with it. I have only ever won one race a few months ago and since then I have been lucky to get into the top 10 once or twice. And when I qualify as long as I am awake I play every battle.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi all,

First of all, I think some of your feedback is great but I would also like to respond to few of your questions.


We are looking at increasing the Monday - Friday Battle that are reaching 1000 entries right now and I hope that you will see the changes next week. I would like to clarify that we do always have the same % of players that can win freespins in our freeroll Battles. The 1000 players Battles had 74 winners and 2000 player Battles have 170 winners. We will always make sure that it doesn't get harder to win since many are playing this to have a chance to get a few freespins while having fun playing our Battles.

I would also like to answer the rumors and questions about us using bots. We do not use bots and the reason why you see so many names are because we are growing and we did also a while ago increase the qualification time from 7 days to 14 days and this opens up to see more players joining our freeroll Battles.


So to summarize this. We are not using bots in our Battles and we are looking at increasing the Monday- Friday Freerolls.

Br,

Daniel

 

[colinsunderland]

Hi all,

First of all, I think some of your feedback is great but I would also like to respond to few of your questions.


We are looking at increasing the Monday - Friday Battle that are reaching 1000 entries right now and I hope that you will see the changes next week. I would like to clarify that we do always have the same % of players that can win freespins in our freeroll Battles. The 1000 players Battles had 74 winners and 2000 player Battles have 170 winners. We will always make sure that it doesn't get harder to win since many are playing this to have a chance to get a few freespins while having fun playing our Battles.

Did you not have 74 winners for the 500 player battles before the changes? The battles where 400 was a busy amount of players, as opposed to the 1000 that get full regularly?

So even assuming all the 500 player battles got full, how is having 74 winners from 1000 not harder than 74 winners from 500?

You have also removed the high value spin battles, and most battles now are 10p spins. So not only is it harder to win, the rewards are worth less.

 

[sassa]

Don't forget that many battles are full so you can't take part, which is a piss take.
Most battles are 10p stake now, so anything you do win is less.
Hardly win any spins now compared to before, and if you do it tends to be 5 x 10p spins.

Loyalty isn't VS's strong suit, I've hardly made a deposit there over the last month

Totally agree that lolality is not their strongest side. Would like to have a deposit bonus sometimes but never get one.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Totally agree that lolality is not their strongest side. Would like to have a deposit bonus sometimes but never get one.

You do realize that the business model at VS is to stay away as much as possible from bonuses and offer wager free rewards only! And that in itself limits the percentage they can offer in rewards as it is all cash.

I hope they never change it.

 

[Harry_BKK]

How much more can you guys&girls complain about these battles? They are an addition that no other casino has. But should never looked upon as winning regularly tons of Free Spins but rather as a pass time when not depositing.

And can somebody give me one good reason why Videoslots would rig Freeroll battles when they made the money already with the required wagering to qualify for them??? Truth is they are very successful in what they are doing and attract a lot of players. Just think of their $80K cash race every week, to be able to give that away it needs minimum $2Mio in wagering (at 96% RTP) to just cover that.

To cover the weekly cashback, we are looking at another few million $ in wagering. The weekly Free Spins + Happy Hour Freerolls + Weekend Freerolls Marathon equal again a few million in wagering that is needed.

Overall, that probably equates to minimum $5Mio wagering per week that they need to just cover the giveaways/rewards/etc. And they have not paid yet any license fees, overheads, aff commission etc.

Hence, they need 1,000's, if not 10,000's, of players every week to be able to offer that level of rewards to all players. I like that they reward EVERYONE and hope they never change their wager free concept.

 

[greylady]

It was actually Videoslots battles that made me cut right back on my slotting budget - I seldom place in the battles and if I do it's usually 5 spins that win 0. My logic is if it is that hard to place in a freeroll then what chance have I got with paid slots. I have had 3 x decent wins in the last year with minimal play time inbetween.

I have got the Tuesday free spins once since they stopped giving them out to everyone, trophies are few and far between for me, never managed to beat wagering (10%, 60%, 20%) were my last three results, the incentive is just not there but I do understand the site has grown beyond expectations but to the detriment of the average player.

I can't fault the site itself as it is one of the best out there but I get more from other sites, I might not win but I at least get more play time, which keeps me happy

 

[colinsunderland]

How much more can you guys&girls complain about these battles. They are an addition that no other casino has. But should never looked upon as winning regularly tons of Free Spins but rather as a pass time when not depositing.

And can somebody give me one good reason why Videoslots would rig Freeroll battles when they made the money already with the required wagering to qualify for them??? Truth is they are very successful in what they are doing and attract a lot of players. Just think of their $80K cash race every week, to be able to give that away it needs minimum $2Mio in wagering (at 96% RTP) to just cover that.

To cover the weekly cashback, we are looking at another few million $ in wagering. The weekly Free Spins + Happy Hour Freerolls + Weekend Freerolls Marathon equal again a few million in wagering that is needed.

Overall, that probably equates to minimum $5Mio wagering per week that they need to just cover the giveaways/rewards/etc. And they have not paid yet any license fees, overheads, aff commission etc.

Hence, they need 1,000's, if not 10,000's, of players every week to be able to offer that level of rewards to all players. I like that they reward EVERYONE and hope they never change their wager free concept.

They are a loyalty/retention tool. That is all they are and VS wouldn't offer them if they weren't profitable for them. They state the freerolls cost them money, which is obvious, but never state how much they make them from the other aspects, ie increased deposits from people etc. No different to a casino that offers me a 100% bonus for say £100, that costs them, regardless of if theres a cashout made at the end of it. Yes, all VS rewards are wager free. but be honest, if someone wins £7 in the weekly race, how often do you think they click 'withdraw' for it? If someone gets 5 free spins at 10p, how often do they manage a cashout? I'm sure some do, I have withdrawn £1200 from free spins winnings once, but I would expect wins like that are extremely rare. As for the license fees etc, most of those seem to be paid by affiliates, and the true affiliate commission is around 7%, so not exactly earth shattering.

Having said all that, I am 100% certain they aren't rigged, I see no point in them doing that, if they ever got caught the negative publicity would kill them, and why would they even think about it for say a couple of hundred spins per battle @ 10p. £20 of free spins against their reputation

My point is, the rewards have been watered down to almost nothing. Battles have more players, you regularly can't get in, and despite what Dan stated, you have less chance to win, & when you do, the value is lower. When was the last time there was a Jack Hammer 2 freeroll? Or any 50p a spin game? Even the overnight games tend to have 5-600 players now, whereas before they could be as low as 200.

It also seems like the in game rewards have been watered down. Going back to last year, it seemed like any new game, if I played it for an hour or so, I would have multiple awards including 25 free spin rewards, 10 free spin rewards, £5/£2/£1 battle tickets, now if I'm lucky I'll get a couple of 5 free spin ones. Of course that is just my opinion, and might not be right.

Most other aspects of the casino are perfect, live chat is poor, but which casino doesn't have that problem, the range of games, the speed of withdrawals, the fact the games all work with no problems (usually) are all things other casinos should take note of and try to copy.

 

[Harry_BKK]

It was actually Videoslots battles that made me cut right back on my slotting budget - I seldom place in the battles and if I do it's usually 5 spins that win 0. My logic is if it is that hard to place in a freeroll then what chance have I got with paid slots. I have had 3 x decent wins in the last year with minimal play time inbetween.

I have got the Tuesday free spins once since they stopped giving them out to everyone, trophies are few and far between for me, never managed to beat wagering (10%, 60%, 20%) were my last three results, the incentive is just not there but I do understand the site has grown beyond expectations but to the detriment of the average player.

I can't fault the site itself as it is one of the best out there but I get more from other sites, I might not win but I at least get more play time, which keeps me happy

Please do not forget that the battles are just 100 spins, that is nothing for a slot. The fact that you get those high results in the battles is because you have 1,000x 100 spins in a short period of time which in itself will logically spit out some big wins.

To be honest, I got slaughtered at times (actually, too often for my liking ) at every casino I have registered and deposited properly, no difference whatsoever and that over nearly 20 years of online gaming. I think that the "lucky casino" feeling is very subjective.

 

[geordiecolin]

Videoslots have a brilliant business model and are a fantastic casino. This post is in no way designed to diss Videoslots because I love them.

The free rolls are not "free" at all.
The costs of them are incorporated into their business model. The free rolls ensure folk deposit more than they would otherwise do. The free roll battles, be they happy hour or weekenders are also built into their plan.With tweaks here and their regarding 10p- 50p (yes I know ) games on offer plus the max amount of persons who can enter them/ amount of positions offered in them they are constantly in a position to manipulate exactly how much they do cost them.

Couple this with their free ticket entries to entice new players and the quantity of traffic that their free rolls,Happy Hours and weekend freerolls attract Videoslots know that not only are they attracting new customers on mass but they are having a huge impact on their rivals profits and their traffic. The impact on their rivals alone must be worth its weight in gold to Videoslots.

Next time that Videoslots have a planned weekend of free rolls just check on the free spins/offer threads to see how much more active rival casino's are the day prior and during that weekend in an attempt to retain custom.

It appears to me that Videoslots have chosen not to spend a fortune on tv advertising which has also afforded them to invest heavily in their business model.
So,in short,they are not "free" at all, but they are an invaluable tool for videoslots.
So don't give me that sanctimonious bollix that the freerolls are untouchable as far as complaints go.

 

[DreamRJ]

Hi all,

First of all, I think some of your feedback is great but I would also like to respond to few of your questions.


We are looking at increasing the Monday - Friday Battle that are reaching 1000 entries right now and I hope that you will see the changes next week. I would like to clarify that we do always have the same % of players that can win freespins in our freeroll Battles. The 1000 players Battles had 74 winners and 2000 player Battles have 170 winners. We will always make sure that it doesn't get harder to win since many are playing this to have a chance to get a few freespins while having fun playing our Battles.

I would also like to answer the rumors and questions about us using bots. We do not use bots and the reason why you see so many names are because we are growing and we did also a while ago increase the qualification time from 7 days to 14 days and this opens up to see more players joining our freeroll Battles.


So to summarize this. We are not using bots in our Battles and we are looking at increasing the Monday- Friday Freerolls.

Br,

Daniel

Thanks Dan.

But just increasing the player count will not cut it.

You also need to increase the amount of free spins available in them. As I said in my post that I suggested to you!!!!!

 

[sassa]

You do realize that the business model at VS is to stay away as much as possible from bonuses and offer wager free rewards only! And that in itself limits the percentage they can offer in rewards as it is all cash.

I hope they never change it.

Yes, I know, but I also know that, for example, Swedish players have received 100% bonuses +100 spins in the mail each month over a long period of time. Both last year and this year. So, yes, they give bonuses to some players


But if I dont get bonuses then I have to get them myself. 5000 win on Piggy and I have a 100 % bonus. Have done it 5-6 times now haha

 

[Dinahnana]

Yes, I know, but I also know that, for example, Swedish players have received 100% bonuses +100 spins in the mail each month over a long period of time. Both last year and this year. So, yes, they give bonuses to some players


But if I dont get bonuses then I have to get them myself. 5000 win on Piggy and I have a 100 % bonus. Have done it 5-6 times now haha

Yes from time to time Videoslots do give out 100% bonus offers along with free spins offers but those bonuses are released in 10% increments. The only time I see where the bonus is given up front is for streamers so perhaps that is a perk reserved for players who have achieved a certain loyalty level.

I am not sure what you mean in the part of the post I have in bold and perhaps it is a language barrier but it comes off as a bit of a taunt. I know you probably did not mean it that way so I thought I'd let you know

 

[sassa]

Yes from time to time Videoslots do give out 100% bonus offers along with free spins offers but those bonuses are released in 10% increments. The only time I see where the bonus is given up front is for streamers so perhaps that is a perk reserved for players who have achieved a certain loyalty level.

I am not sure what you mean in the part of the post I have in bold and perhaps it is a language barrier but it comes off as a bit of a taunt. I know you probably did not mean it that way so I thought I'd let you know

Haha sorry.
When I have 5000 win on Piggy Riches I get 100% bonus reward

 

[DreamRJ]

Yes from time to time Videoslots do give out 100% bonus offers along with free spins offers but those bonuses are released in 10% increments. The only time I see where the bonus is given up front is for streamers so perhaps that is a perk reserved for players who have achieved a certain loyalty level.

I am not sure what you mean in the part of the post I have in bold and perhaps it is a language barrier but it comes off as a bit of a taunt. I know you probably did not mean it that way so I thought I'd let you know

Well that is news to me. the only Time I have had a 100% was when I first joined. And then once more about 1 or 2 months later. But none ever since for the last year and half.

And to be fair, I never liked them anyway at videoslots because of the way they get released at 10% intervals!!!

 

[Tirilej]

Yes, I know, but I also know that, for example, Swedish players have received 100% bonuses +100 spins in the mail each month over a long period of time. Both last year and this year. So, yes, they give bonuses to some players


But if I dont get bonuses then I have to get them myself. 5000 win on Piggy and I have a 100 % bonus. Have done it 5-6 times now haha

I'm Swedish and I believe I have recieved that offer two or maybe three times, so don't say that we get it often because it's not true

 

[paul7388]

Weird . Registered for Wonky Wabbits and can not access game at all. So tried loading the game out of battle and it does not work either. Just keep getting message SWFObject could not launch game.

Tried other games and every game loads apart from that game in Battle and out of Battle. Even tried different browser and deleted cookies etc. No big deal just weird that 1 game will not load at all when has another time ive loaded it.

To be honest never liked it anyway so maybe it knows that and went F*** U lol.

 

[incrediblestuff]

Weird . Registered for Wonky Wabbits and can not access game at all. So tried loading the game out of battle and it does not work either. Just keep getting message SWFObject could not launch game.

Tried other games and every game loads apart from that game in Battle and out of Battle. Even tried different browser and deleted cookies etc. No big deal just weird that 1 game will not load at all when has another time ive loaded it.

To be honest never liked it anyway so maybe it knows that and went F*** U lol.

I played in VS recently, and had the same issue with a Netent game - this was Dan's advice:

If you could try right-clicking on the green lock next to the URL you should see a drop-down menu. You can see something called "Flash" in this menu, try switching the setting on that to "Always allow on this site", then refresh the page

Which solved my issue.

 

[paul7388]

I played in VS recently, and had the same issue with a Netent game - this was Dan's advice:



Which solved my issue.

Cheers i learn something new every day.

And it worked thanks must remember that lol

 

[sassa]

I'm Swedish and I believe I have recieved that offer two or maybe three times, so don't say that we get it often because it's not true

Well you can say what you want, but those I talk to often get them. And VS has also confirmed in the chat that they have been sent out to some players when I have asked why I never get them.

 

[Tirilej]

Well you can say what you want, but those I talk to often get them. And VS has also confirmed in the chat that they have been sent out to some players when I have asked why I never get them.

It usually gets posted in this forum if any country is getting them, and that hasn't been so many times. I'm really surprised if some players would get them from Sweden but not me. I don't say it's not true though
It's not just Norway that doesn't get them and I'm not sure of the reason but it has to be one.

 

[gilliebean]

Just to add my 2p worth...

I love VS and am as loyal as can be.
Found battles hard to get into last weekend and the week before.
Not finished top 100 in months. Not finished top 500 for over a week.
With my last 5fs I won a grand total of 0.00.

But on balance, my paid game etc is still above 400% x

Perhaps a month ago (possibly longer), this probably would have been my response word for word. Sadly, the paid game part hasn't been anywhere near as fruitful for me and hasn't been in a very long time - hence I haven't been able to wager enough to access battles in ages... I have managed to somehow get about £4-5 (all in) on the race and weekend bonuses - and yet again I've won diddly squat or not enough to make a withdrawal without bombing out. The min withdrawal of £20 means you have no choice but to keep going - rather than accept the odd £10.

My game play/staking never changed (until recently where I've given up!) - and you know I used to love the free rolls and a good natter in chat - but I'm not willing to waste good money to just have a chat! (Much as I miss the banter! ... although it was far too full of free battle ticket trolls towards the end for my liking... )

The one thing I will say is VS ought to be very scared - if I run an online casino I know who I'd be headhunting! )

P.s - What site did you get that 2p from!? I need a tip off

 

[gilliebean]

Did you not have 74 winners for the 500 player battles before the changes? The battles where 400 was a busy amount of players, as opposed to the 1000 that get full regularly?

So even assuming all the 500 player battles got full, how is having 74 winners from 1000 not harder than 74 winners from 500?

You have also removed the high value spin battles, and most battles now are 10p spins. So not only is it harder to win, the rewards are worth less.

My thoughts exactly...

 

[colinsunderland]

My thoughts exactly...

Seems Dan has gave up replying, but would also love to know how 74 winners out of 1000 can be the same percentage as 170 out of 2000, surely the 1000 player ones have a lower percentage

I would like to clarify that we do always have the same % of players that can win freespins in our freeroll Battles. The 1000 players Battles had 74 winners and 2000 player Battles have 170 winners.

 

[gilliebean]

Seems Dan has gave up replying, but would also love to know how 74 winners out of 1000 can be the same percentage as 170 out of 2000, surely the 1000 player ones have a lower percentage

7.4% chance over 8.5% - but I'm not convinced that 1.1% would make the placing we're achieving(or not achieving!) lately quite so different....

I wouldn't blame Dan for wanting to run a mile from this thread - I actually feel bad

Edit - sorry walking dog - my first reply was rambled

 

[greylady]

Perhaps a month ago (possibly longer), this probably would have been my response word for word. Sadly, the paid game part hasn't been anywhere near as fruitful for me and hasn't been in a very long time - hence I haven't been able to wager enough to access battles in ages... I have managed to somehow get about £4-5 (all in) on the race and weekend bonuses - and yet again I've won diddly squat or not enough to make a withdrawal without bombing out. The min withdrawal of £20 means you have no choice but to keep going - rather than accept the odd £10.

My game play/staking never changed (until recently where I've given up!) - and you know I used to love the free rolls and a good natter in chat - but I'm not willing to waste good money to just have a chat! (Much as I miss the banter! ... although it was far too full of free battle ticket trolls towards the end for my liking... )

The one thing I will say is VS ought to be very scared - if I run an online casino I know who I'd be headhunting! )

I wouldn't mind depositing more to meet the battle wagering but it's not worth it. I work from home so it's easy for me to take part in most battles but in 10 days I have won 72p - the weeks before that were not much better.

I get 100 free spins on an almost weekly basis from another casino, which in comparison the rewards are low on VS. I know the free spins have no wagering but what could I do with my 72p

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Seems Dan has gave up replying, but would also love to know how 74 winners out of 1000 can be the same percentage as 170 out of 2000, surely the 1000 player ones have a lower percentage

Hi colinsunderland,

You are correct that there are better odds of getting on a winning position on the 2000 players Battles. What I meant with the post is that we didn't decrease the chance of winning.

Br,

Daniel

 

[bebo67]

Hi colinsunderland,

You are correct that there are better odds of getting on a winning position on the 2000 players Battles. What I meant with the post is that we didn't decrease the chance of winning.

Br,

Daniel

Dan. I tried scrolling back, but got boggled down. Colin sorry for hijacking this for a moment. Ok Dan I read what you posted early this morning. The freeroll battles.can you please change the time back? Two hours is crazy and is hurting every player ( ok not every) But most of us. Also the canadian battles? What are you going to do with them? Huge increase and very piddly prizes. Two spins? Right now the battles are a waste of time for 80% of us, and yeah I have accepted that.

 

[interlog]

It usually gets posted in this forum if any country is getting them, and that hasn't been so many times. I'm really surprised if some players would get them from Sweden but not me. I don't say it's not true though
It's not just Norway that doesn't get them and I'm not sure of the reason but it has to be one.

The owner of VS is Swedish - bias I tell ya

(Joke btw)

 

[colinsunderland]

Hi colinsunderland,

You are correct that there are better odds of getting on a winning position on the 2000 players Battles. What I meant with the post is that we didn't decrease the chance of winning.

Br,

Daniel

I'm even more confused now, it used to be a 74 in 500 chance, its now a 74 in 1000 chance, how have the odds not decreased Surely thats a 50% less chance of winning?

Unless you are being extremely selective and talking about only when you added 2000 player battles against the 1000 ones?

 

[DreamRJ]

I'm even more confused now, it used to be a 74 in 500 chance, its now a 74 in 1000 chance, how have the odds not decreased Surely thats a 50% less chance of winning?

Unless you are being extremely selective and talking about only when you added 2000 player battles against the 1000 ones?

After some back and forward with Dan in PM.

He did say that when they increase the maximum number of players next week, they will also be increasing the amount of prizes and free spins in them as well.

They better bring it back in line to the same ratio they used to be at. 1 in 3 to 1 in 4 it used to be. now it is like 1 in 6 to 1 in 7 people win some free spins.

So they really need to bring it back in line to the 1 in 3 and 1 in 4 ratio badly.

 

[bebo67]

I'm even more confused now, it used to be a 74 in 500 chance, its now a 74 in 1000 chance, how have the odds not decreased Surely thats a 50% less chance of winning?

Unless you are being extremely selective and talking about only when you added 2000 player battles against the 1000 ones?

I find it all confusing. My thoughts are that they are 2 hour battles now with up to 2k players. Adding more time, allows for more players, which allows for decrease in chances of winning. Right? Also if you are incline, you have more chances of depositing because the 2 hour wait time is so long.

 

[interlog]

I find it all confusing. My thoughts are that they are 2 hour battles now with up to 2k players. Adding more time, allows for more players, which allows for decrease in chances of winning. Right? Also if you are incline, you have more chances of depositing because the 2 hour wait time is so long.

I haven't played at VS for quite some months now, but I am sure that these free roll battles were always every 2 hours?

 

[DreamRJ]

I haven't played at VS for quite some months now, but I am sure that these free roll battles were always every 2 hours?

yes but the difference being now is instead of them being 90 minutes long and 30 mins registration time. they are now 2 hours long without any pre reg time. So you can not pre enter them anymore.