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Cannot believe even though you know you won't win very much from the RAW game you still sat and played the battles.

I remember the old weekends where I would get up at 6am on a Saturday and try to stay until midnight when it was a decent 20p slot like Halloween Jack or Blood Suckers II, but seriously actually wasting 9 hours of your life on a RAW game?

You're right but I don't consider it a waste of my life because I only spent the first 30 minutes or so actually watching it all. After that I spent the evening working (from home) on my other laptop and when I was done with that I was just watching a TV show. As I said I was putting the battles on sonic spins so it only required a few seconds of input from me every 10 minutes or so.

If I was forced to sit and press every spin then yeah no way in hell I'd actually do that
 
In addition to the redeeming of rewards being a shit show, has anyone else on here struggled this BW to even earn the bloody rewards in the first place?

Thursday's I usually get about 15, this week 9

BW days Fri/Sat./Sun, usually 20 per day on average, last night 14

I know the way the battles/rewards system works and nothing has changed but it has just seemed a real struggle this time around?
 
It feels like it comes in waves. You go on a 4-5 dry streak then suddenly get a few back to backs.

Since it's complete pot luck and a third of entries score each time over the long run it will average out.

Buckle in boys it's time for the pain to start

Edit: Of course the very first Valiant Knights battle I hit 1000 points. Where was that hit during my actual spins last night! urgh
Meanwhile Zeus has already bonused, naturally paid 0.00. Fun fun
 
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Nice, I'm in my 6th Zeus entry and yet to top 5. At least they're firing fast. Have just hit another bonus. Can we beat 0.00 I wonder?

Yes we can! 0.10 in the first 9 spins then the final spin hit 2.50 or something. 346 points, good for 1st Woop. Left 2nd place in the dust on 145 but at least 5th with 57 points got some free spins :)
 
How does 99 points take first and how have I had yet another bonus that's paid not even 1x. So sad

Literally next battle another bonus another flop.

So far my bonuses have been 0x, 38x, 0x, 1x.
 

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How does 99 points take first and how have I had yet another bonus that's paid not even 1x. So sad

Literally next battle another bonus another flop.

So far my bonuses have been 0x, 38x, 0x, 1x.
This is what they want for the customer, Hence they pick the trashest games in all of gamesville! :)
 
It's crazy that the bonus doesn't offer a min win. At least with the big bass games you know you'll get 10-15x at worst.

After those 4 I've had 3 more bonuses, 0x, 0x and 8x. The 8x might as well have been a 0 because I finished 6th anyway... Getting a bonus should be a good thing instead I'm like oh great here comes another 0x. The only way to hit anything at all is just randomly hitting 1 or 2 wild reels when spinning. These bonuses are supposed to be 100x to buy right? I've 'paid' 700x in bonuses and been paid back not even 50x wtf
 
Your private message doesn't help me at all. Telling me to clear cache, different browser etc is no use when the battle is over already.

I want to know what you are going to do about this exact situation and what you are going to do to prevent it from happening again.

It's not just me who has this issue other people have commented on it in this thread too.

I watched a £3.52 tumble for like 10 seconds before I triggered the bonus. AFTER the bonus triggered it said I was out of spins and tried to send me back to the lobby even though you can clearly see the bonus screen on display. It didn't do it right as a pressed my 25th spin. There is clearly a literal bug on your website that when specifically RELAX games hit a bonus on the last spin for whatever reason your website doesn't register it and instead thinks it's a dead spin in tournaments.

You can literally put the battle ID in, see my finishing score of 100something and see on the screenshot my tumble win of 352 and see the finishing scores and see that 1) my points didn't add 2) I should have finished in the top 10.
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I can't guarantee that it still works right now since I haven't played on VS for a few years, so they may or may not have changed the design and the elements IDs.
 
It's crazy that the bonus doesn't offer a min win. At least with the big bass games you know you'll get 10-15x at worst.

After those 4 I've had 3 more bonuses, 0x, 0x and 8x. The 8x might as well have been a 0 because I finished 6th anyway... Getting a bonus should be a good thing instead I'm like oh great here comes another 0x. The only way to hit anything at all is just randomly hitting 1 or 2 wild reels when spinning. These bonuses are supposed to be 100x to buy right? I've 'paid' 700x in bonuses and been paid back not even 50x wtf

Agreed, crazy amount of shit pays from the bonus.

Regular battle players are most likely "conditioned" in their way of thinking that if you bonus the night's chosen game, you automatically think 9/10 "Here comes a reward" - Far from the case with this awful creation.

Similar to you, bonused the game 8 times, only one of the 8 bonuses led to a measly 3FS token lol.
 
Agreed, crazy amount of shit pays from the bonus.

Regular battle players are most likely "conditioned" in their way of thinking that if you bonus the night's chosen game, you automatically think 9/10 "Here comes a reward" - Far from the case with this awful creation.

Similar to you, bonused the game 8 times, only one of the 8 bonuses led to a measly 3FS token lol.

The sad thing is despite hating on Valiant knights it's doing better. I've done over 1200 spins on Zeus this evening and the best hit is only a 38x from a bonus and the best after that is not even a 20x.

I'd be shocked if I got 20% rtp from the free spins and I expect Zeus to be even worse than Valiant knights.

I know that Videoslots don't make the game but they picked it and clearly they didn't think how bad it was for battles. Or actually they probably did, give out 10's of thousands of spins that will pay nothing at all. Great deal for them...

How is it even possible. I'm now up to 10 bonuses with the last 3 being 0x, 1x, 0x. I've still not even hit 50x total pay from 1000x of bonuses at this point.
 
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The sad thing is despite hating on Valiant knights it's doing better. I've done over 1200 spins on Zeus this evening and the best hit is only a 38x from a bonus and the best after that is not even a 20x.

I'd be shocked if I got 20% rtp from the free spins and I expect Zeus to be even worse than Valiant knights.

I know that Videoslots don't make the game but they picked it and clearly they didn't think how bad it was for battles. Or actually they probably did, give out 10's of thousands of spins that will pay nothing at all. Great deal for them...

How is it even possible. I'm now up to 10 bonuses with the last 3 being 0x, 1x, 0x. I've still not even hit 50x total pay from 1000x of bonuses at this point.
The bonuses on the prag game is all or nothing even if you play on the 'low volatile' side.
Its either 0-20x or 1000x+ from my experience with the game.

I think the biggest chance of getting a decent win from rewards on that game is lucking out and hitting 2-3 wilds in the basegame, but since that is also rare as hell im not holding my breath. :)
 
Yeah... just used my spins now and got 31% rtp. Is it bad that I'm surprised it's that high? I was genuinely expecting under 20. I got screwed over with a 20x 2nd reel that only hit 3 aces for 2x so that was depressing. Other than that just 0.5x here 1x there, painful to watch. Now valiant knight's turn

Edit: I don't care what anyone says. They've found a way to literally legally scam people with this game.

70 spins yesterday, 7.07% rtp, 85 spins today 11.12% rtp. There's absolutely no way this game is legit. You can't tell me that someone who puts in £31 of spins should be getting back £2.88.

Between valiant knight and zeus I'm at a 14.12% rtp from over 250 spins yeah right.
 
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Yeah... just used my spins now and got 31% rtp. Is it bad that I'm surprised it's that high? I was genuinely expecting under 20. I got screwed over with a 20x 2nd reel that only hit 3 aces for 2x so that was depressing. Other than that just 0.5x here 1x there, painful to watch. Now valiant knight's turn

Edit: I don't care what anyone says. They've found a way to literally legally scam people with this game.

70 spins yesterday, 7.07% rtp, 85 spins today 11.12% rtp. There's absolutely no way this game is legit. You can't tell me that someone who puts in £31 of spins should be getting back £2.88.

Between valiant knight and zeus I'm at a 14.12% rtp from over 250 spins yeah right.
It does make you wonder how that game ever is supposed to reach 94.5% rtp.
Every single battle has 10-20 people in the 20-40 points range, and its not like the top 10 scores are impressive to make up for it.

I dislike slots where you collect value as a whole, but its even worse for battles because most people will probably have to go play for real money if they want to 'unlock' the stored rtp.
Almost like that was the idea or something.
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You have issues with last spins on Money Train 4 not counting.
I've now had 2 round where scores close to 2000 / €20 wins wasn't counted.
Not only visually, as no spins was credited with what would be a clear 1st.

Please fix it and replace it with another slot.
We don't need this in a weekend shaping up to be worst battle weekend in many years.
 
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You have issues with last spins on Money Train 4 not counting.
I've now had 2 round where scores close to 2000 / €20 wins wasn't counted.
Not only visually, as no spins was credited with what would be a clear 1st.

Please fix it and replace it with another slot.
We don't need this in a weekend shaping up to be worst battle weekend in many years.
Last spins don't work on most games, they don't know how to fix it, you will just have to live with it, it's been an issue for the last decade.
 
Last spins don't work on most games, they don't know how to fix it, you will just have to live with it, it's been an issue for the last decade.
yes many times issues specially Relax gaming slots .. first what come mind i lost money place once planet of apes ( Netent ) 5e rebuy tournament because my freespins score dont add my total score .. lost littlebit over 58e because of that
 
It's not every provider, far from actually.
The problem has been the visual in the lobby, but system has still been calculating correctly and paid out spins.
This is not the case today, calculations is not working on Money Train 4.


Nobody should live with it, because such a problem unsolved would surely mean licenses being revoked.

It just need to be fixed, or slot getting replaced.
 
It's not every provider, far from actually.
The problem has been the visual in the lobby, but system has still been calculating correctly and paid out spins.
This is not the case today, calculations is not working on Money Train 4.


Nobody should live with it, because such a problem unsolved would surely mean licenses being revoked.

It just need to be fixed, or slot getting replaced.
Sigh if they could fix it they would its been going on 10 years and they won't revoke a licence because someone didn't get a few free spins on a crap 10p slot, it happens on RAW, Relax, Leander and others.

They have stated before they don't know how to solve it.
 
Sigh if they could fix it they would its been going on 10 years and they won't revoke a licence because someone didn't get a few free spins on a crap 10p slot, it happens on RAW, Relax, Leander and others.

They have stated before they don't know how to solve it.
That's quite a simplification.
When this issue is on every side of single tournament, then the numbers is obviously huge.

But that attitude must be why nothing gets fixed.
Just because a company acts like the biggest amateurs on the market, doesn't excuse anything.
 
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I can't guarantee that it still works right now since I haven't played on VS for a few years, so they may or may not have changed the design and the elements IDs.
Wow dude thanks!

I just had a bonus on relax on the last spin and tried this and it actually worked and let me play out the bonus and added my score. Massive props for that.

Still finished 6th anyway so it didn't matter but at least I know for the future
 
That's quite a simplification.
When this issue is on every side of single tournament, then the numbers is obviously huge.

But that attitude must be why nothing gets fixed.
Just because a company acts like the biggest amateurs on the market, doesn't excuse anything.
See Lukey141's response it might help you but arguing with VS stopped working many years ago, you can scream your head off and explode and it won't make any difference to them but go ahead keep trying.
 
Hah, I've entered 18 so far today and only got spins 4 times. Awful return so far. On top of that it's going way slower than yesterday. Always someone not using spins making us all wait the full 12 minutes. Sucks
 
I'm going to be so pissed if after tonights free spins I still haven't got a white. I refuse to actually spend real money on the game.
Might have to hope Valiant knights is on the menu on Monday too lmao. I hate myself for even thinking that
 
I'm going to be so pissed if after tonights free spins I still haven't got a white. I refuse to actually spend real money on the game.
Might have to hope Valiant knights is on the menu on Monday too lmao. I hate myself for even thinking that
I'm still waiting to trigger Wild Bunch x17 bonus with freespins. Been months now without getting it.
 
Valiant knights had better step up its game in the last hour, I've been running crazy below average all evening. I've got less than half the spins I had yesterday. Every shite round, 22 points, 25 points, 23 points maybe 40 if I'm lucky just wtf. It's just such a bad game.

Hey Video Slots. Could you look into the stats for the game? I genuinely think there's a bug in the RTP. Look at your own website stats, that is the all time actual RTP for both versions when they're supposed to be at 94.5. When you look at other games the actual vs theoretical is usually very close, within like 1% at most. This way WAY off.
 

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Valiant knights had better step up its game in the last hour, I've been running crazy below average all evening. I've got less than half the spins I had yesterday. Every shite round, 22 points, 25 points, 23 points maybe 40 if I'm lucky just wtf. It's just such a bad game.

Hey Video Slots. Could you look into the stats for the game? I genuinely think there's a bug in the RTP. Look at your own website stats, that is the all time actual RTP for both versions when they're supposed to be at 94.5. When you look at other games the actual vs theoretical is usually very close, within like 1% at most. This way WAY off.
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Valiant knights had better step up its game in the last hour, I've been running crazy below average all evening. I've got less than half the spins I had yesterday. Every shite round, 22 points, 25 points, 23 points maybe 40 if I'm lucky just wtf. It's just such a bad game.

Hey Video Slots. Could you look into the stats for the game? I genuinely think there's a bug in the RTP. Look at your own website stats, that is the all time actual RTP for both versions when they're supposed to be at 94.5. When you look at other games the actual vs theoretical is usually very close, within like 1% at most. This way WAY off.

Its bound to be like that on this type of game where there is RTP tied up, esp as there will be a lot of value stored of all the battlers and progressives are high lol
 
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This is were im currently at with this poor Robin Hood version of Scatters Matter!
I think i just need the red guy for it to bonus now,

Has anyone collected all of them yet?

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Ended with 12-5-4 from the bottom, missing white and red.
And that is how it is going to stay because im sure it would cost an arm and a leg to trigger the bonus, since i only have collected the shit symbols there is pretty much no chance it would actually pay anything decent.

You did say earlier that it was the worst battle weekend ever incoming, i should have listened.
Looking on the bright side it would be very hard to ever make it worse than this, so it can only get better from here. :)
 
Ended with 12-5-4 from the bottom, missing white and red.
And that is how it is going to stay because im sure it would cost an arm and a leg to trigger the bonus, since i only have collected the shit symbols there is pretty much no chance it would actually pay anything decent.

You did say earlier that it was the worst battle weekend ever incoming, i should have listened.
Looking on the bright side it would be very hard to ever make it worse than this, so it can only get better from here. :)
Yeah I also didn't trigger it. Missing white and got a 2, 8, 12, 11 setup on the other 4.

3525 spins on Valiant Knight during battles and won the feature once (paid about 35x if I recall).

251 actual spins between thursday and battle weekend with the knights storing up without triggering.

Valiant Knight Battle weekend overall 201 spins, 16.17% rtp (LOL).
Big Bass 83 spins, 210.84% (double bonus very lucky)
Zeus 88 spins 31.14%
Money Train 99 spins, 28.89%

Overall 44.05% on 471 spins which is basically all thanks to big bass. If we didn't count that it would be 20.54% rtp on 388 spins.

I knew the 94% rtp variants (and raw) were bad but I am stunned at just how bad they actually are. Once my current 30 days are up I'm certainly not earning another 1k exp until I see next months lineup and it will need to be a huge improvement over this months option.
 
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The idea that certain people think they should be close to the theoretical RTP% on a slot after a couple of hundred spins is absolutely laughable. How are the bigger wins ever supposed to be paid out? The RTP is based on hundreds of millions of spins for crying out loud.

Maybe RAW should make a 2-reel slot with one win line and 4 positions on each reel, with the following payouts -
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What a cracking game this would be! Look at that hit rate - nearly 2 in 3 spins you'll win a prize, and the minimum win is equal to your stake! Max win is only 6x though, which some players might not find attractive. Chopley will be along any minute to moan about the overall RTP% being less than 94%, but with the total number of spin combinations being only 16 that rate of return will be realised in a few hundred spins and Lukey141 will be like Scrooge McDuck diving into a vault filled with pennies!
 
No wonder casinos do so well when they've got players like you. If you're ok with your average session being put in £200, do 200 £1 spins and come away with £32 you've got more money than sense mate.

Obviously I'm not expecting to get 94.5% or close to it from a few hundred spins. At the same time how can a 16% rtp be ok? You can play the highly volatile extremely high potential hacksaws and no limits and they'll pay better than that.

Also shocker, Valiant knight on the schedule again, literally 5 days in a row. They don't give up trying to push this game.
 
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