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I have never won a jackpot even though I am Swedish but would love to have one!
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ive never won one of the vs jackpots, or for that matter pretty much anywhere else, except for one - about 7 years ish ago? Won a jackpot on a netent slot, the old viking one, cant remember its name, got just shy of £1000 from that. still got the video of it somewhere i recorded! (one of the few times actually)
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Actually yes, fair point. I think I may have suggested something similar to this idea, maybe even years back.
Trouble is these days, I think incentives to play/deposit/wager more are against certain jurisdictions regs which ties the casinos hands somewhat with this sort of thing, hence the wheels apparently getting awarded completely "randomly"
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A day ago, I finally got around to redeeming my 60 rewards from the battle weekend. I went into this expecting to not get much at all as the base game on both slots can be really bad. I decided to play out "Revenge of the Daimyo" first as I liked Big Bass Splash and I figured it would be the slot that would do well... Turns out that the slot got its "revenge" on my sympathy, lol!
Most of the rewards had very little wins and I knew that I needed a bonus or more to possibly survive... I ended up getting three bonuses. One of them was over 50x, the other... 288x! I couldn't believe it myself!
Later on Big Bass Splash, it was the same thing. Very little wins, but then... Two bonuses. One of them was terrible, but I hit one for 186x!
In the end after all of this... I made just over $100+ from 60 rewards. RTP from both slots was over 100% too. I got screenshots of the big wins here as well.
Here is the breakdown of the rewards:
Here is the Revenge of the Daimyo 288x win below.
Here is the final result from the 186x Big Bass Splash below.
If I didn't get those bonuses, I guess in total, would have made $10+ instead. Luck is a big factor these days!
Most of the rewards had very little wins and I knew that I needed a bonus or more to possibly survive... I ended up getting three bonuses. One of them was over 50x, the other... 288x! I couldn't believe it myself!
Later on Big Bass Splash, it was the same thing. Very little wins, but then... Two bonuses. One of them was terrible, but I hit one for 186x!
In the end after all of this... I made just over $100+ from 60 rewards. RTP from both slots was over 100% too. I got screenshots of the big wins here as well.
Here is the breakdown of the rewards:
Here is the Revenge of the Daimyo 288x win below.
Here is the final result from the 186x Big Bass Splash below.
If I didn't get those bonuses, I guess in total, would have made $10+ instead. Luck is a big factor these days!
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A swedish person won the Mega Moohla Jackpot at VS last week. 8m EUR. I guess they are lucky at VSI have never won a jackpot even though I am Swedish but would love to have one!
can y'all guys blieve im still waiting!
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Is there any concrete information with regard to the 'Battle Weekend' event moving forwards? Yesterday you alluded to some impending changes but I would really appreciate some insight with regard to this event specifically.A swedish person won the Mega Moohla Jackpot at VS last week. 8m EUR. I guess they are lucky at VS
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Best way to keep the "best" of this event but still make savings as a business would be to reduced the hours from 24h a day to 18h a day.
Run from 6am GMT - midnight x 2 = 36h instead of 48h.
To soften the blow have 2 games running Saturday and change them Sunday to two different games 0.10/0.20.
A breakdown of how bad the wheels are, 31 days worth of wheels.
- 50 Free Spins in Iron Bank
- 50 Free Spins in Extra Juicy Megaways (replaced with Wanted)
- 50 Free Spins in The Dog House Megaways
- 50 Free Spins in Big Bass Bonanza Megaways
- 50 Free Spins in Remember Gulag
- 50 Free Spins in Floating Dragon Megaways
- 75 Free Spins in Sticky Bandits Trail of Blood
- 50 Free Spins in Mighty Eagle Extreme Super Symbols
- 100 Free Spins in Mad Buffalo
- 50 Free Spins in Power of Thor Megaways
- 75 Free Spins in 777 Strike Jackpots
- 100 Free Spins in Blood Suckers
- 50 Free Spins in Mystery Mission to the Moon
- 75 Free Spins in Hot Fiesta (replaced with sugar rush)
- 50 Free Spins in SuperTracks Railways
- 75 Free Spins in Gigantoonz
- 75 Free Spins in Limerick Lightning
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How do you get these wheels? I get them but i don't know why. Is it when you complete achievements on slots? If so do people play new games just to earn the achievements' and then earn these wheels?
Randomly while playing, based on the wagering.
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I could handle that. At least it would allow me to sleep too!!
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Here's my wheel breakdown:
1, 50 fs on hand or midas
2, 50 fs on fruitshop megaways
list ends.
1, 50 fs on hand or midas
2, 50 fs on fruitshop megaways
list ends.
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Kind of backs up my theory that the math behind these has been altered, badly!
When the XP wheels were first scrapped and replaced with these "random" ones, I had a mixture of results.
50/75/100 FS a few times, £50 cash once, £100 cash twice.
These extra payouts are basically "pennies" to a casino the size of VS so to clamp down and make them tighter still (and IMO some of the prizes now not achievable) is pathetic.
Most players will play their prizes straight back anyway and if they do withdraw the cash prizes, 90% will redeposit them in stages over the coming days.
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15 of my 20 latest wheels have been 25spins in various slots, the odds seem to favour just 25 quite a bit here...
Since the wheels changed, across all the wheels only two were good.
One was £50 and another was 75 FS on Reel Rush, this one was good because I managed to get 3 bonuses.
Meanwhile, I missed the level 25, 30, 35 and 40 wheels.
Yeah, you get more wheels now, but what does it matter when 50 wheels can't even make up for 1 of the old ones.
Jurgen Slot
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They have wasted no time with these cuts have they!? The present freezeout battle has been reduced to 250 freespins as has the 'Ave Caesar' battle tonight.
We should have been given notice about this. Completely unacceptable in my eyes that I have earned 1,000XP since the recent battle weekend and have done so under clearly false pretence.
I have just about had it with Videoslots. It's something else every other day with them. Don't even get me started on the non-spinners. There is no way on earth that the majority of these players aren't plants from within.
We should have been given notice about this. Completely unacceptable in my eyes that I have earned 1,000XP since the recent battle weekend and have done so under clearly false pretence.
I have just about had it with Videoslots. It's something else every other day with them. Don't even get me started on the non-spinners. There is no way on earth that the majority of these players aren't plants from within.
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250 spins for 22:15 battle what a pisstake, 400% rtp will come up short for 5fs in a 4:15 am one.
just can all of the battles and do one per day or something, cos its just wasting our time like this.
just can all of the battles and do one per day or something, cos its just wasting our time like this.
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Yeah, it would be better to merge the battles and have like 2 - 4 fair battles a day than keep them all in this state.
Or just get rid of them all and do a weekly battle on Sunday or something, like we used to have the tickets for the 30000€ monthly battle, but instead make a 12-hour 30000 free spin battle in a single day.
Or just get rid of them all and do a weekly battle on Sunday or something, like we used to have the tickets for the 30000€ monthly battle, but instead make a 12-hour 30000 free spin battle in a single day.
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Not defending this or any other casino for that matter but it is the fault in the main of the UKGC and other governing bodies which are causing these constant cut backs we are experiencing.
Sadly retention and loyalty rewards are only going to get worse and this situation is going to become the new norm and unless things get reversed compliance related (no chance) there will be nothing to look forward to.
Wheels, rewards, battle events will see more and more reductions until eventually they disappear completely, casinos won't have to worry about incentives to combat competitors as they will all be in the same boat, the decisive factors for players will simply come down to trust issues, payout speeds and as little KYC and SoW worries as possible.
Its a crying shame these regulators don't actual know what they're doing to the industry as it was once a very thriving industry for both businesses and players in one form or another.
Sadly retention and loyalty rewards are only going to get worse and this situation is going to become the new norm and unless things get reversed compliance related (no chance) there will be nothing to look forward to.
Wheels, rewards, battle events will see more and more reductions until eventually they disappear completely, casinos won't have to worry about incentives to combat competitors as they will all be in the same boat, the decisive factors for players will simply come down to trust issues, payout speeds and as little KYC and SoW worries as possible.
Its a crying shame these regulators don't actual know what they're doing to the industry as it was once a very thriving industry for both businesses and players in one form or another.
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I’ve always maintained that self help should be the main education for people, rather than reliance on other people who end up squeezing the life out of enjoyable things for everyone.
There was already so many tools available for struggling individuals. Exclusions, breaks, loss limits, deposit limits…the list is endless. On top of that you have the ability for casinos to spot troublesome betting patterns and behaviour.
Blanket prohibition should never have even been on the table.
The sad thing is, take a walk down your local high street and see what our alcohol dependency culture in the UK causes. People literally losing everything over it, yet drinking is almost celebrated and cheered on in this country.
I built a balance on VS a day or two ago (from a £10 deposit) which allowed me to up my stakes to between 50p-£1 rather than the 10p-30p I usually do. The upshot is an RG splash screen saying they noticed I have done some larger stakes…yes, and? The industry is gone if people have to be mollycoddled to that degree; just takes the fun out of it really.
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I've had my account deactivated for some bullshit for the last month(see my thread, currently theyre trying to get me to commit identity fraud for some reason) so that I can obviously try and get my money out but also because the freerolls were what made VS my choice of casino.
The only reason I spend my budget with VS a month is just because of the battles. Just seems like they're gonna lose more profits than they would because of these new rules.
Think VS is gonna regret this one.
I've also noticed that the only 2 games I can see with the normal amount of spins are two shit games (scatters matter and that phoenix one) how convenient!
Whilst I'm here can anyone recommend a better casino that isn't making cutbacks at the expense of the customers?
The only reason I spend my budget with VS a month is just because of the battles. Just seems like they're gonna lose more profits than they would because of these new rules.
Think VS is gonna regret this one.
I've also noticed that the only 2 games I can see with the normal amount of spins are two shit games (scatters matter and that phoenix one) how convenient!
Whilst I'm here can anyone recommend a better casino that isn't making cutbacks at the expense of the customers?
In London if you aren't puking by 7pm, you are doing it wrong.
Unless it's a bank holiday / weekend and it's sunny outside, in those days it's by 11 am
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cuts work both ways, back when vs had 96% playngo I would deposit daily it was my number 1 casino never even thought about battle wagering because I played so much and always had enough wagered for battles, then came the 94% cut, the majority of my play moved elsewhere for the 96%, games.
still playing at vs for battles and grinding achievements and leveling up for the rewards- checking my RTP and seeing oh I've done 600 wins, might as well push for the 750 wins achievement might get a nice reward for it plus then can go for all achievements and a red wheel, then the achievements were made worthless as were the XP levels so played less and less until now where I will log my XP and do 1000 per 30 days the minimum required just to keep the promos active and no more than that as there is no point any more.
still playing at vs for battles and grinding achievements and leveling up for the rewards- checking my RTP and seeing oh I've done 600 wins, might as well push for the 750 wins achievement might get a nice reward for it plus then can go for all achievements and a red wheel, then the achievements were made worthless as were the XP levels so played less and less until now where I will log my XP and do 1000 per 30 days the minimum required just to keep the promos active and no more than that as there is no point any more.
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I can't disagree with any of this. From 2008-2018 I made a lucrative full-time living from both Matched Betting and Casino Incentives. As this was my only income stream the Governments meddling has had a hugely detrimental effect on my quality of life.
I am talking more about the industry wide changes that were made between 2017-19 of course. Although the present day may be a pale imitation of years gone by, there is still a relentless dilution of promotional offerings even to this day. As you quite really say, there is only one way this can possibly go.
The real issue I have to be honest is with the behaviour of both the 'VS Rep' and 'Mr Wild'. I haven't been a member of this forum for long but I have been an avid reader for some time.
In the past 4-8 weeks this pair have systematically gone about dodging pertinent questions on an almost daily basis. Whether they be asked things via direct reply to their own posts or via a newly submitted post, it simply doesn't matter.
They deserve no protection and cannot be afforded any excuses for their constant refusal to answer the following questions:-
1) Why (for the umpteenth time) have they increased the battle times to 12 minutes?
(Strangely these duration changes haven't been applied at Mr Vegas so make of that what you will),
2) I don't buy for one second that they don't know 'exactly' what the plan for June (at least) is. Why then hasn't Mr Wild addressed the question I have asked twice regarding the possible removal of June's Battle Weekend?
(I may be labelled conspiratorial but I am confident that they are witholding this info in order to leave the door open for players to blindly continue earning XP under false pretence). I sincerely hope I am wrong....
3) Why have they persistently failed to address the numerous complaints with regard to queues when correcting the system would be ridiculously simple?
(We know the answer already sadly).
4) Last but not least is the obvious seeding of battles with non-human players. Even though it's a topic that is frequently referenced, neither the rep or Mr Wild have ever come forward with either a logical explanation or even better 'a solution'!!
I have seen multiple instances where these two have been heavily defended and at times it's inexplicable how they could be afforded such respect. I know these individuals are essentially just pawns controlled from above and it may be argued that they wouldn't question their employer for fear of reprisal. I personally would rather quit my job than treat this place like a nursery school occupied my mindless lemmings.
This is the problem with the world today. There is always an excuse for bad behaviour, when in reality there is NO EXCUSE. These two may not make decisions or always be aware of everything. Their radio silence trick however is both deliberate and disgusting.
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RE: battles partycasino do 4 freerolls a day one per six hours (no requirements), they have 3-6k players in them and the prize pools are more diluted but I actually get fs from them.
something similar may work better here than the current model.
something similar may work better here than the current model.
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1. Its 12 mins from June.
2. We did answer it, Monday Mystery is gone. Rest of them will stay with some changes. Changes are reduction in prizes.
3. We have a maximum limit of how many battles we can run before system crash. Queues did reduce a lot when we moved to 12 mins. We are also removing 10 player battles and doing 15 players which will help.
4. Thats is just ridiculous statement, there are no bots. But yes seeding happens inform of battle tickets you can win in freerolls. Which seeds buyin battles.
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You 'still' haven't answered question 1. I said "why"?
The Mr Vegas comment was merely an observation.
Question 2 wasn't answered properly either. Reduction in prizes doesn't tell me anything. Instead of continuing with the vague soundbites how about you just answer the question properly. How are these supposed reductions specifically going to be applied in the 'Battle Weekend'???
Question 3 doesn't sound right either. I wonder what relentless queues of 500+ are doing for system stability!? It's 2024, it shouldn't be that complicated. As a seasoned player I can say with certainty that your site has more technical issues than any casino I have ever played at. The same goes for the frequency of these issues. It is unrelenting to be honest.
Question 4 is an easy comment to make on your part. The law of averages are the barometer which I go by. You would expect it to happen on occasion for a number of reasons and I can see that. What I won't accept however is that there is 'apparently' nothing unusual when it happens in over 90% of the Epic Thursday battles. If there were over 100 entrants per battle then yes it could happen but when 10 man battles have at least one for the entire 4 hour duration of the event then I am sorry but you simply can't just discount my claims. This isn't an outlier either and has been experienced countless times.
Non-spinners are illogical anyway given that high rollers aren't gonna touch these contests. I know this because I 'was' one. I wouldn't have touched 10-20p offers with a bargepole at the time. Why in gods name would low rollers dawdle relentlessly and turn their noses up at what essentially amounts to free money!!?? Low-roller doesn't also mean low IQ after all.
Another one is on the rare occasions when spins are completed and the clock with 5 minutes+ left on it continues counting down to zero. Again this shouldn't be difficult to fix if the will to do so is there.
Above all with this kind of stuff, just make it make sense for goodness sake.
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Hi @Mr Wild
Just out of interest, how many places will get a prize in the new 15 man battles please?
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Good call ?
I really should have asked that. What are the odds do you reckon that prizes will be changed from 6,5,4 to something absurd like 3,2,1? Meanwhile (of course) the XP requirements across their low RTP game catalogue remain unchanged.
When you look at it in depth, they are taking a metaphorical dump on us from a great height.
To not give every account holder ample notice of their plans is as despicable as it is underhand.
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The only conclusion I can reach from all this is that they are moving toward ridding themselves of their UK license. There doesn't appear to be one iota of long term thinking at all with regard to how they have behaved in the past few months.
Incessant gaslighting and systematic vagueness all point to them leaving the UK market at some point. From a vagueness perspective this would benefit them immensely on the way out because it will increase their profitability during the transition. This would obviously be to the detriment of UK players and I feel it would be wise to remain conscious of this in the days ahead.
The need for cuts in business is a relative proposition. What seems to hold zero weight with VS however is that they have the lowest RTP for the vast majority of their game library. This would undoubtedly give them a major profit increase over sites that don't choose this path.
If they had a game list with optimal RTP's I may be more inclined to understand their decisions. Instead they are fuelled entirely by greed and in the end that will always be the case in this morally bankrupt industry.
It's just so illogical though as a long term business plan. Keeping an online casino profitable doesn't appear to be that difficult a task on the whole. I mean look at the industry fines they all get. They are their own worst enemy and if they could just remove their snouts from the trough for one second and just think, their businesses would operate smoothly for the rest of time.
Governments like ours (UK) only become involved in all this because the casinos can't behave in a reasonable and responsible manner. This results in disgruntled players speaking out and as time goes on the noise becomes impossible to drown out.
Whilst I don't agree with the specific steps taken by the UK at large, it still remains the case that if only the operators had more sense, this still could have all been avoided.
Greed and moral bankruptcy across the entire industry is what brought us here and anything else is just excuses and misdirection.
Incessant gaslighting and systematic vagueness all point to them leaving the UK market at some point. From a vagueness perspective this would benefit them immensely on the way out because it will increase their profitability during the transition. This would obviously be to the detriment of UK players and I feel it would be wise to remain conscious of this in the days ahead.
The need for cuts in business is a relative proposition. What seems to hold zero weight with VS however is that they have the lowest RTP for the vast majority of their game library. This would undoubtedly give them a major profit increase over sites that don't choose this path.
If they had a game list with optimal RTP's I may be more inclined to understand their decisions. Instead they are fuelled entirely by greed and in the end that will always be the case in this morally bankrupt industry.
It's just so illogical though as a long term business plan. Keeping an online casino profitable doesn't appear to be that difficult a task on the whole. I mean look at the industry fines they all get. They are their own worst enemy and if they could just remove their snouts from the trough for one second and just think, their businesses would operate smoothly for the rest of time.
Governments like ours (UK) only become involved in all this because the casinos can't behave in a reasonable and responsible manner. This results in disgruntled players speaking out and as time goes on the noise becomes impossible to drown out.
Whilst I don't agree with the specific steps taken by the UK at large, it still remains the case that if only the operators had more sense, this still could have all been avoided.
Greed and moral bankruptcy across the entire industry is what brought us here and anything else is just excuses and misdirection.
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Why: Human error.
In SNG 20% will be paid instead of 30%. But all changes are communicated in the emails.
That is the main issue.
There are no bots. Why would we have non-spinners as bot, it only improves the other players chance of winning a prize. Would be really stupid...
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For me, the simple change to 12 minutes was enough. Based on the last battle weekend, it can be said that the player earns 25-30% less rewards with this alone.
But what else, they decide to adjust the probability 33% downwards.
These changes together will probably cause a 50% drop in the amount of prizes in the battle weekend. If it is compared to the former format
These cuts are absolutely massive and I can't find a single reason why it's worth playing these. I would understand if there were no requirements for playing these. But 1000 points a month for this joy, no thanks
But what else, they decide to adjust the probability 33% downwards.
These changes together will probably cause a 50% drop in the amount of prizes in the battle weekend. If it is compared to the former format
These cuts are absolutely massive and I can't find a single reason why it's worth playing these. I would understand if there were no requirements for playing these. But 1000 points a month for this joy, no thanks
The assumptions people made are quite fair.
First, having non spinners makes the battles open for the full extension, so there won't be any battles ending after 4 or 5 minutes, although the players have a higher chance to win one battle with non spinners, without them, they could do 3 battles instead and have even a higher chance.
The other reason people think about that is because non spinners are able to register within the first 5 - 10 seconds the event starts but then spend 12 minutes without doing any spin.
With both these points in mind, it's easy to understand why people think it may be bots.
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I don't think they would go to the effort of making all these cut and changes and then abandon their UK Licence, doesn't make sense.
From what I've learnt/read/witnessed over my time here is that UK seem to make up a large percentage of a casinos user base.
Complying and making changes (cuts) etc seem for most casinos the way to go rather than closing their doors to UK players completely.
Several smaller operators did shut up shop to UK but the more established "big boys" have remained as it seems despite the hoops they have to jump thru as a business it is worth keeping the somewhat large UK player base.
Ps: Whilst you're here @Mr Wild - Did you miss my question earlier about how many places will get a prize in the new 15 man battle format please?
Edit: NVM just spotted the 20%/30% thing
Will top 9 still get paid in 30 mans or will you run 2 x 15 mans?
From what I've learnt/read/witnessed over my time here is that UK seem to make up a large percentage of a casinos user base.
Complying and making changes (cuts) etc seem for most casinos the way to go rather than closing their doors to UK players completely.
Several smaller operators did shut up shop to UK but the more established "big boys" have remained as it seems despite the hoops they have to jump thru as a business it is worth keeping the somewhat large UK player base.
Ps: Whilst you're here @Mr Wild - Did you miss my question earlier about how many places will get a prize in the new 15 man battle format please?
Edit: NVM just spotted the 20%/30% thing
Will top 9 still get paid in 30 mans or will you run 2 x 15 mans?
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From this Thursday I am going to record and publish the happenings of that specific event. You can discredit me with denials as that is your right.
I'll document and post the realities, as is my right. If (even then) you still choose to deny the obvious then that is up to you. In my eyes, if it looks, barks, and behaves like a dog than that is indeed what it is.
You chose to avoid explaining away the example that I gave so it's clear how further discourse is likely to go in future.
The odds of 'every' single battle (10 man) over the space of 4 hours containing at least one legitimate non-spinner must be enormous. It happening more than once would be even less likely. But of course I am merely an irrational conspiracy theorist as oppose to a whiter than white representative of an online gambling company.
If it was simply a case of sheer randomness then why do you think 12 months+ of consistent participation hasn't yielded a single event where the opposite happens?
As I say I will post exactly what happens during Thursday's event and readers can reach their own conclusions. I am already convinced that I am bang on the money.
Naturally I don't believe that 'every' site wide battle is seeded as that would be impractical for one. But the idea that VS wouldn't have 'some' staff whose job during these events is to just use dummy profiles to enter battles to both delay and reduce the rewards/winning potential for genuine customers. It would make VS a significant saving in the long run so why wouldn't they for goodness sake.
From what I have read you have been diluting promotions for years and not just during the 12 months that I have been a player.
Something your employers should consider:-
Bet365 are far and away the most successful operator in the UK market. Denise Coates (CEO) is I believe the richest female in the country.
The interesting thing about Bet365 is that during my peak active years (08-18) they blew every online operator out of the water with huge promotions. Whilst every other operator offered fluctuating promotions of low grade value (generally), B365 had the same £200 sports welcome offer for years including £50 free bets (football) throughout the season and a £250 grand national bonus package. Every other operator besides them used to remove their offers entirely during that week.
Similar offerings were commonplace across their Casino/Vegas gaming arms also. Did it effect their profits? I think their status in the industry answers that.
Across the board promotions eventually dipped for reasons we all know. They are still the market leader however and this shouldn't be ignored.
They also don't fill their site with the nerfed versions of every game like your site does, and still they make record breaking profits year on year.
Justify it however you want but the UKGC is an easy scapegoat for companies such as yours. Maybe rein in your incessant greed, that's a start.
Instead of paying dividents to your parasitic heirarchy how about spending some profits on improving the infrastructure that supports the site. Quite frankly the site runs like any site would if accessed with dial-up internet. You should be embarrased by the incessant problems. Or you can just carry on blaming both too many players and mythical (whilst convenient) IT complexities.
How about not diluting the player experience at every turn just so profits can be maintained or increased. Profit may very will sustain you for a time (maybe a long time) but if you do so whilst inflicting dissillusionment on your player base, well this can and will only end one way.
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I guess 20% means that top 6 gets prize on 30-man battle.
For non spinners I guess mostly people register to both 10 and 30 man and play one of them and forget about another
But isn't better to cut the event duration if you make cuts anyway?
For non spinners I guess mostly people register to both 10 and 30 man and play one of them and forget about another
But isn't better to cut the event duration if you make cuts anyway?
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How in gods name does it increase our chances? I cannot believe you even posted such nonsense.
Yes, it gives real players a better chance of gaining a reward (in that game) but if it takes 12 minutes+ because of non-spinners then in the long run that is patently untrue.
If not for non-spinners we would be likely to earn 3-4x more rewards due to a vastly increased number of battles. The fact you can't see this is staggering.
If what you are saying is true I already have the solution. And I don't believe it is true by the way. But here it is:-
Adopt the same system that Playstation and X-Box have used for years in their online gaming lobbies. If you join a game and are completely idle for just a few minutes you are kicked from the game, END OF. Dawdle and spoil it for others you are out and must re-register.
It works like a dream and prevents gaming lobbies being filled with real players mimicking statues. The gamer experience is maintained and most are happy.
Why? Because playing FIFA etc against a player who isn't even moving is boring and if it was allowed to continue they would inevitably lose their player base and position in the market.
In 2024 any competent IT team could install the same protocol in the battle lobbies. You don't do it for one reason and you know it.
Player experience is secondary to profit to VS. You don't give a stuff about non-spinners, queues, games not ending when players have finished. It's the reason you don't answer most questions on here. It is all entirely deliberate. Your bosses won't allow you to be transparent, it's obvious.
Your site could be revolutionised within a month if the will was there. The fact is that improved player experience and infrastructure improvements would hurt profit. Promotions and incentives would hurt profit.
PROFIT is the reason behind every single issue with your site. Pathetic to be honest.
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Low rollers simply don't behave that way either. We don't have an oil barron's cash reserves so play budget is often limited. The suggestion that low rollers would sabotage their strong chance of a free balance boost by registering then not playing is both absurd and insulting in my eyes. They are p****** on us whilst blaming the weather. I have had enough of it.
They behave like back bench politicians. Absurd justification and excuse at every turn. The constant evasiveness and vagueness is another perfect example.
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You're quite right about how illogical it sounds. With this bunch however, the absurd soon becomes plausible.
I have read through numerous historical posts from these two in recent days and it is a litany of gamesmanship and nonsense. Today alone he hasn't specifically addressed my concerns. It's always done with the intention to confuse rather than to offer clarity.
I will eat them both for breakfast so long may they continue peddling their verbal diarrhea.
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In fairness a few times I have joined a tourney and either, App does not update me to a game on play or phone or door goes, or one of my kids is , about
to or just did something stupid and it needs to be dealt with and I time out completely or have 30 seconds to play all my spins -
You multiply these “life” things that happen Vs
# of players Vs amount of games ; I think the number of non-spinners are more genuine than you are projecting
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I personally would have left the battle structure alone, 30% and 10/30 man's
Savings and less work could have come in the form of 3 hours on a Thursday and 36h on a battle weekend, together with 12K added on a Tuesday and FINALLY scrapping the pointless and needless CoS.
Players I feel would have reacted to this better despite it still being a cut back and VS would have been able to implement this idea much easier than the route they have decided to take.
As much as I love this casino and its the only place I play nowadays, they do seem to take the more arduous route when it comes to changing things.
PS: Almost forgot, can we have a 24h Medlee like the good old days, as a sort of farewell to Mystery Monday's
Savings and less work could have come in the form of 3 hours on a Thursday and 36h on a battle weekend, together with 12K added on a Tuesday and FINALLY scrapping the pointless and needless CoS.
Players I feel would have reacted to this better despite it still being a cut back and VS would have been able to implement this idea much easier than the route they have decided to take.
As much as I love this casino and its the only place I play nowadays, they do seem to take the more arduous route when it comes to changing things.
PS: Almost forgot, can we have a 24h Medlee like the good old days, as a sort of farewell to Mystery Monday's
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I didn't say that distractions for players don't happen, as I am sure they certainly do. My phone has rung in the past for example and impacted my participation so I know this is a reality.
I simply don't buy the frequency with which this occurs, and particularly in the 10 man format. 30 man battles would naturally be more frequent I accept that. It's all about probability and the individuals own perception of events.
I consider it to be far more probable that this company would manipulate these lobbies than it simply being a warped construct of my imagination.
Each person has the freedom to make their own conclusions however and I am happy to respect the views of players whose outlook differs to my own.
As I said in another post. They could easily remedy this by adopting the same process that both Playstation and X-box have. They could have an automated kick facility for a player who idles for a certain period of time. The kicked player would simply re-register for another battle.
It's not a difficult system to implement yet I guarantee they will ignore such a suggestion. It would hurt their bottom line and that is way higher in their list of priorities than customer/player care. They should google the definition of the word 'balance' as they may learn an important lesson.
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Is there anyway to monitor site traffic over time.
There are constant problems with the battle events and my understanding was that it was that the servers could not cope with the traffic. That would indicate traffic has gone up over years. It used to all run great a few years ago I remember a triple battle weekend oh what glory days...all without a hitch.
If the site has more traffic then why are cut backs. Does it relate to fines or something as more traffic = more turnover/income.....Just trying to understand the cuts. Or lack of reinvestment in site etc...what is actually going on. Or for more shareholder wealth?
I have enjoyed playing video slots so its been fun.... probably will still use but it will not give me the enticement for more site engagement. May look around are there any other threads around good casinos?
Edit - oops just read mr wilds thursday post it explains a little but not the years of cuts unless similar have hit over periods of time.
There are constant problems with the battle events and my understanding was that it was that the servers could not cope with the traffic. That would indicate traffic has gone up over years. It used to all run great a few years ago I remember a triple battle weekend oh what glory days...all without a hitch.
If the site has more traffic then why are cut backs. Does it relate to fines or something as more traffic = more turnover/income.....Just trying to understand the cuts. Or lack of reinvestment in site etc...what is actually going on. Or for more shareholder wealth?
I have enjoyed playing video slots so its been fun.... probably will still use but it will not give me the enticement for more site engagement. May look around are there any other threads around good casinos?
Edit - oops just read mr wilds thursday post it explains a little but not the years of cuts unless similar have hit over periods of time.
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I would guess and expect this to be 5 places....
Edit: Oh just seen the 20% comment? so top 3 still ? ouch
@Mr Wild I think maybe keeping the places format the same and reducing the time to maybe 2hrs was better than the 20% route. I also think the cut to 1000 XP wasn't the best idea as since that happened it does seem to have been far worse. Some of me thinks you would have been better to ditch the battle nights completely and give people weekly spins instead totally based on the previous weeks wagers.
At least then rewards fit players more fairly than luck grinding battles, nothing worse than wagering 10k in a week and getting 4 free spins when a dedicated lucky low roller could get 80+ spins with just minimum wager.
But as everything your never going to please all the players all the time so, it will be what it will be.
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@Mr Wild
This was also my biggest gripe with the level wheel changes to random, before if you had a particularly BAD run at least you would get a cash wheel every 5th level, now when your luck is bad you will either not get a wheel at all or some 50 FS on a 10p game! You can surely see why mid or higher roller players like myself have cut down from past levels im sure im not the only one that has cut back since that change.
This was also my biggest gripe with the level wheel changes to random, before if you had a particularly BAD run at least you would get a cash wheel every 5th level, now when your luck is bad you will either not get a wheel at all or some 50 FS on a 10p game! You can surely see why mid or higher roller players like myself have cut down from past levels im sure im not the only one that has cut back since that change.
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We are looking into doing something for increasing in levels again.
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@Mr Wild
And any comment of the what seems to be a total reluctance of getting rid of CoS ( Clash of spins ) ? Even though countless players have said happily to bin it LOL
Surely that would save some of the budget, not to mention less work load for the site to keep it all running in the background
And any comment of the what seems to be a total reluctance of getting rid of CoS ( Clash of spins ) ? Even though countless players have said happily to bin it LOL
Surely that would save some of the budget, not to mention less work load for the site to keep it all running in the background
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