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Official Videoslots presents Battle of Slots!

dave1888 said:
Heads up guys and @Team.Videoslots if you leave a battle midway to do something else on your phone, then re-enter on some providers (including raw) if you have a cash balance it can switch to that with the battle spins showing. This means you can accidentally use your own cash! always refresh to ensure its the battle cash. Will take a screenshot next time if happens. It's only happening on my phone.
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Hi @dave1888 ,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have sent you a private message regarding this matter.

Kind Regards,
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pinnit2014 said:
Not only do i get zero $$$ from rewards but on the back of the convo i now need a dentist from my Daim bar chomping

Invoice incoming to Kroffe and Jono :p
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Its pretty crazy how they are made, no wonder it takes a toll on your teeth.

 
Hi Everyone,

Here are the details for tonight’s Epic Thursdays’ Battles on Deeper Money Bass from RAW iGaming and Power of Thor Megaways from Pragmatic Play.

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Battle Details:
  • Date: Thursday 30th May 2024
  • Times: 18:00 - 22:00 GMT
  • Battle Type: Sit & Go Freerolls
  • Game Names:
  • 10-man Battles: Deeper Money Bass (RAW iGaming) €0.10
  • 30-man Battles: Power of Thor Megaways (Pragmatic Play) €0.20
  • Max number of players per Battle: 10 & 30
  • Spin: 25 Spins
  • Duration per Battle: 12 minutes
  • Prize Structure on 10-man Battle: 1st Place: 6 Extra Spins, 2nd Place: 5 Extra Spins, 3rd Place: 4 Extra Spins. Extra spins are wager-free.
  • Prize Structure on 30-man Battle: 1st-3rd Place: 6 Extra Spins, 4th-6th Place: 5 Extra spins, 7th-9th Place: 4 Extra Spins. Extra spins are wager-free.
  • Requirements: To participate you need to have deposited €20 or more and collected 1000XP in the last 30 calendar days before the start of these Battles.
You can find out more information including T&C's by clicking here.

Good luck!

Kind regards,
Team Videoslots
 
Mr Wild said:
As mention many times, main reason for using RAW is they are most stable for battles and that is what player wants a stable site :)
RAW is fairly new provider, just 18 months old or something and they are on the right path.
Second most stable provider for battles is pragmatic and that is also why its used so much compare to others. Like Netent, crashes every time almost! A lot of problems with Quickspin and Relax as well... And PNG dont support FS in italy so main issue why we cant use them so much.
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Just seen, i get that, but surely your 'association' with them isn't a major component in using them ? Folk aren't stupid.

Or they fact they're not that great a games provider? If you do have any influence on RAW, which i think you do, maybe have a chat and tell them to make less crap games?

VS have received feedback on collector games and continued with their position cos, rightly in many ways, it suits the company.

Don't know why you're using Italy's exclusion as a reason for not using when quite happy to exclude Canada in the past for half of the battles :laugh:
 
Some unfortunate news.
Sweden is increasing their tax on gross gaming revenue to 22%. At the same time, the UKGC is implementing several changes, including mandatory "soft" credit checks, lower player limits, and reducing the maximum bet to £2 and £5. These changes will significantly impact our business. As a result, we have decided to offset some of the losses by reducing Battles. You will notice some changes during June and July. This is just a heads-up to explain the reasons, as I anticipate there will be some comments about this.
Some casinos have decided to lower their RTP to 91%, and some have already done so. This is not something VS intends to do atm and we hope we dont need to. But we will for sure post it here before if that would be the case, as we dont want to make the same mess twice!
Unfortunately, it seems that both the UKGC and SGA are unaware of the damage they are causing to the regulated market and the significant boost this gives to the black market. They are ignoring our concerns and pretending the black market doesn't exist. It's really quite sad.
 
Thanks for the update @Mr Wild - not a massive surprise.

We could probably do with a lot of the Battles disappearing, mainly to stop people complaining about them all the time and losing entire weekends to a load of boring rubbish!

Personally I get a nosebleed if I put my stakes up to 50p or higher, so as long as the RTPs don't lower again...
 
What battle changes will we notice @Mr Wild ? Less battles ? Less of certain types of battles? (less free spin battles and more ticket battles) Less events (thursday, monday, battle weekend?). Or has it not been decided yet?

If i had to give an opinion, id say scrap mondays, keep thursdays and battle weekend, and as im sure others have said , scrap clash.
 
Told you so. VS doing yet more cuts.

How many times do I need to say this?

Had a good ride VS but that is it for me!
 
spoo42 said:
What battle changes will we notice @Mr Wild ? Less battles ? Less of certain types of battles? (less free spin battles and more ticket battles) Less events (thursday, monday, battle weekend?). Or has it not been decided yet?

If i had to give an opinion, id say scrap mondays, keep thursdays and battle weekend, and as im sure others have said , scrap clash.
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Most likely we are going to lose Tuesday Madness ?
 
We should be getting at least 30 days notice too as the process of earning XP becomes a pointless exercise otherwisw. I wouldn't be happy if I did so and lost money under false pretence either, which I already have unfortunately.
 
Mr Wild said:
Some unfortunate news.
Sweden is increasing their tax on gross gaming revenue to 22%. At the same time, the UKGC is implementing several changes, including mandatory "soft" credit checks, lower player limits, and reducing the maximum bet to £2 and £5. These changes will significantly impact our business. As a result, we have decided to offset some of the losses by reducing Battles. You will notice some changes during June and July. This is just a heads-up to explain the reasons, as I anticipate there will be some comments about this.
Some casinos have decided to lower their RTP to 91%, and some have already done so. This is not something VS intends to do atm and we hope we dont need to. But we will for sure post it here before if that would be the case, as we dont want to make the same mess twice!
Unfortunately, it seems that both the UKGC and SGA are unaware of the damage they are causing to the regulated market and the significant boost this gives to the black market. They are ignoring our concerns and pretending the black market doesn't exist. It's really quite sad.
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So what's the £20 minimum deposit and 1000xp requirement for? I mean it must be a big factor in your profits so if you reduce the freerolls then you'll reduce people fulfilling the requirement. (It's why I choose VS anyway, I like the freeroll stuff) And doesn't the implementation of these really high volatility RAW games off set it a lot as I'm winning what like 5% of what I was winning before you introduced these high vol RAW games with the weird math.
 
sbr992 said:
So what's the £20 minimum deposit and 1000xp requirement for? I mean it must be a big factor in your profits so if you reduce the freerolls then you'll reduce people fulfilling the requirement. (It's why I choose VS anyway, I like the freeroll stuff) And doesn't the implementation of these really high volatility RAW games off set it a lot as I'm winning what like 5% of what I was winning before you introduced these high vol RAW games with the weird math.
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There are no changes to the requirements.

It's true that we work closely with RAW, but they are the only ones helping us improve stability in battles. If you look back 1-2 years, we experienced crashes every night during battles. No other provider helped fix these issues, but RAW did, and now things are mostly stable.

If you try the new RAW game, you'll notice it's not that high in volatility. We've already provided this feedback to them, and they are adjusting the math in their newer games, with "Deeper Money Bass" being the first example.
 
09237653 said:
I know that but they are still ridiculously hard to place in, same as the freerolls which are more like lotteries now.
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Playing paid battles in the long run will give you above 100% rtp. Reasons:
1. Not everytime gtd is reached and pot is more than buyins.
2. If you pre-buyin you can become the joker and double your win if you win.

So only playing battles in long run should be +EV.
 
@Mr Wild so how and when will the new limits affect people like myself that have previously jumped through the SOW hoops to have a higher monthly limit? Moving forward does that mean my 1.2K a month going to be max 500 ? I expect you have already soft searched us anyway.
 
Sad news indeed, however I totally understand why the cuts are needed, especially if we get to at least keep 94%.

91% I'd quit altogether along with many, many others I feel, yes I know players said this when the drop from 96 to 94 was announced and most are still playing BUT this time they would move on 91% may as well close your doors for good.

To repeat myself from posts gone by (and others) please keep the battle weekend with zero changes, in fact get back to 8 minutes whilst we are here talking.

Changes could be covered by scrap Monday's, scrap CoS, reduced Tuesday Madness (Maybe 12K added, still have 600 places paid but slightly smaller prizes)

I know this would annoy the high rollers but also reduced the 300 max per day WB to say 200?
 
On a postive note, Videoslots app for android will be launched in June (battles are supported). IOS a bit later. First market to launch is Sweden & MGA then UK in July.
I bit more modern version of VS they say. I havent seen it myself yet...
 
Alisa77 said:
@Jono777,
Since you’ve said in previous posts that both you and the missus plays during battle weekend… do y’all fight over who’s gonna cook dinner and docthe washing up over battle weekend? ??
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Lolol

Not really, we take regular breaks during the day to pop out, visit family, shop, cook, clean etc and share the work load (well ish :p :p)

I sometimes sit logged in but may not register for a while, I spend more time sleeping actually most battle weekends, my beauty sleep (not that I need much :o :o) is far more important than slots lol.
 
Jono777 said:
Sad news indeed, however I totally understand why the cuts are needed, especially if we get to at least keep 94%.

91% I'd quit altogether along with many, many others I feel, yes I know players said this when the drop from 96 to 94 was announced and most are still playing BUT this time they would move on 91% may as well close your doors for good.

To repeat myself from posts gone by (and others) please keep the battle weekend with zero changes, in fact get back to 8 minutes whilst we are here talking.

Changes could be covered by scrap Monday's, scrap CoS, reduced Tuesday Madness (Maybe 12K added, still have 600 places paid but slightly smaller prizes)

I know this would annoy the high rollers but also reduced the 300 max per day WB to say 200?
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I'd be cautious is assuming cuts are needed - my day job has afforded me the joy of: lets blame a regulator, isn't always as it seems :p (they wouldn't have faced a multi million fine if they got their regulation in order, for example)

Being said, with little interventionist regulators, days were probably better in the past

COS are a waste of time and effort and the problem with VS is they've run on past performance so folk keep making excuses for them. And rather weird protestations of loyalty...whatever than means.

Back in the day i genuinely used to like the battles as a reward but i honestly couldn't think of a worst night than playing their games for that. Fair play if you do, but i think you do, you' pretty much gave up on life in general :p
 
Jono777 said:
You're not alone. It seems the definition of the word "gambling" now has zero relation to "winning" only "losing"

In other times gone by news, anyone recall when 5 scatters meant getting excited and actual worth something :what:

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Got a 2000x from a battle, bonus came in on the last spin from those Sonic spins so i couldnt watch the bonus before the battle ended.
Just like all the other recent releases this slot also seems to be all or nothing.

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pinnit2014 said:
I'd be cautious is assuming cuts are needed - my day job has afforded me the joy of: lets blame a regulator, isn't always as it seems :p (they wouldn't have faced a multi million fine if they got their regulation in order, for example)

Being said, with little interventionist regulators, days were probably better in the past

COS are a waste of time and effort and the problem with VS is they've run on past performance so folk keep making excuses for them. And rather weird protestations of loyalty...whatever than means.

Back in the day i genuinely used to like the battles as a reward but i honestly couldn't think of a worst night than playing their games for that. Fair play if you do, but i think you do, you' pretty much gave up on life in general :p
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Yeah, I get you mate, kind of not giving Mr Wild a hard time and seeing things from his point of view as a business owner.

I far from rely or look forward to the battles, I just do them in the main as a boredom buster and that I'm in the house most night's anyway at this time with little else to do. I watch my TV and streams at bed time when I have more peace and quiet and no distractions.

Battles as you say used to be good, Missed the Frenzy and Mystery Fridays briefly but very quickly got over their removal.

In all honesty, the only real event I'd be keen to keep and would miss for more than a week or two is the battle weekend. Sure it can be a drag but I don't over do it and sleep most of it but it does usually lead to £40 - £50 for "free" which is like 2-3 deposits for a hunble low roller like me lol :o
spoo42 said:
didnt the last raw 'bass' game have something like a 500x for 5 scatters? Im sure i had a £100 win in battle with 5 in that one. (cant remember its name, the one with the extra reel you could add or remove).
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Big Money Bass 6 - clone of Fortune Teller's Charm 6 - Think it is something like that for the 5 scatters (or 6?)
 
Jono777 said:
Yeah, I get you mate, kind of not giving Mr Wild a hard time and seeing things from his point of view as a business owner.

I far from rely or look forward to the battles, I just do them in the main as a boredom buster and that I'm in the house most night's anyway at this time with little else to do. I watch my TV and streams at bed time when I have more peace and quiet and no distractions.

Battles as you say used to be good, Missed the Frenzy and Mystery Fridays briefly but very quickly got over their removal.

In all honesty, the only real event I'd be keen to keep and would miss for more than a week or two is the battle weekend. Sure it can be a drag but I don't over do it and sleep most of it but it does usually lead to £40 - £50 for "free" which is like 2-3 deposits for a hunble low roller like me lol :oops:


Big Money Bass 6 - clone of Fortune Teller's Charm 6 - Think it is something like that for the 5 scatters (or 6?)
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Yeah thats the one, i think id locked the end reel and upped the bet to .20 or something i think? I recall getting 5 scatters and it paid over £100 (think i posted the pic somewhere in here actually).

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Regarding the cuts, one thing that we can get rid of is the wheels.
It takes too long to get a wheel and in the end, we just end up with 50 FS in some crap game that pays £2.

The jackpots seem exclusive to Swedish players, look at the latest jackpot winners, Swedish players dominate it, and they even make it look easy by winning multiple times.
Look at Lars, 5 jackpots
 
Itaghai said:
Regarding the cuts, one thing that we can get rid of is the wheels.
It takes too long to get a wheel and in the end, we just end up with 50 FS in some crap game that pays £2.

The jackpots seem exclusive to Swedish players, look at the latest jackpot winners, Swedish players dominate it, and they even make it look easy by winning multiple times.
Look at Lars, 5 jackpots
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Despite them being mathematically changed behind the scenes (they were great and fair when first introduced) and mostly rubbish, we do need to keep these.

It is one of very few things regular players get outside of the battles. Those who just earn enough XP and then don't deposit or play each month maybe don't deserve them but low rollers with small budgets but still remain loyal have to have a little something extra from time to time.
 
Jono777 said:
Despite them being mathematically changed behind the scenes (they were great and fair when first introduced) and mostly rubbish, we do need to keep these.

It is one of very few things regular players get outside of the battles. Those who just earn enough XP and then don't deposit or play each month maybe don't deserve them but low rollers with small budgets but still remain loyal have to have a little something extra from time to time.
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Honestly, would rather get a set of freespin once a week based on wager than the wheels.
As an example, you wager 5k, you get 100 FS at £0.80 in some slot.
You wager 1k, you get 50 FS at £0.20.


Jono777 said:
I also thinks the site is in the process of dying lol .. .. . .. :p
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Yes, it's on life support
 
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