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[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi everyone,

For the second release of today, I’m happy to offer you, Si-Xiang from Iron Dog Studios and re-release Cats and Cash HTML5 upgrade version.

Si-Xiang (Iron Dog Studios)
More information:
RTP: 96.1%
Min: €0.50
Max: €50
Paylines: 28

Cats and Cash (Play’N Go)
More information:
RTP: 96.07%
Min: €0.15
Max: €75
Paylines: 15

Both games above have Trophies and Rewards added and are available for our UK players.

I wish you all good luck!

Br,
Daniel.

 

[nikantw]

Hello Everyone,

I hope you all are having a fantastic Thursday, for the first release of today we have a brand new provider to offer you called Ganapati, we will be releasing 5 games with them today.

Sushicade
RTP: 97.22%
Min: €0.30
Max: €120
Paylines: 25

PPAP
RTP: 96.83
Min: €0.40
Max: €100
Paylines: 40

Crypcrusade
RTP: 97.21%
Min: €0.50
Max: €100
Paylines: 50

Crypbattle
RTP: 98.27%
Min: €0.32
Max: €80
Paylines: 40

She Ninja Suzu
RTP: 97.398%
Min: €0.20
Max: €100
Paylines: 20

All of these games have trophies and rewards added, unfortunately Ganapati is not available for our UK players.

I wish you all the best of luck and enjoy!

Br,
Daniel.

There is no TRTP more than 98% in any of the games. You have it wrong in Crypbattle it is 97.17% like the news say in your site.
But the VS news also have it wrong in PPAP, it is 96.83% like you say here and no "more than 98%" like it says in VS news.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi nikantw,

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Everyone,

I hope you are all having a great start to the weekend, we have one new game to offer you today from Red Rake Gaming.

Queens and Diamonds
Min: €0.20
Max:€150
Lines: 20
RTP: 95.4%

Today’s game has trophies and rewards added, however unfortunately Its not available for our UK players.

I wish you all the best of luck!

Br,
Daniel.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

The fire alarm has gone off att our office and our support is currently offline, we apoligize for this inconvenience and we will try to bring it back as soon as possible.

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[dionysus]

Hello everyone,

The fire alarm has gone off att our office and our support is currently offline, we apoligize for this inconvenience and we will try to bring it back as soon as possible.

Best regards,
Daniel.

hope everyone is a-ok

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

It was false alarm and everything is okay.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[nikantw]

Glad it was false alarm, but just a reminder that in the movies they always set the alarm off when they want to do something naughty

 

[007sam]

Limit: £1 million
Remaining: £ 0.00
Until: 07/07/18 09:45


Limit Reached

when is a limit not a limit?

at video slots!

apparently doesn't reset itself on time

great reply

10:48Linus S: I will now close this chat due to inactivity. Should you have further questions or need of assistance, you are more than welcome to contact us at any given time. Our support is available at all hours.

was sorted spent me £1 million in 10 minutes not a single bonus - boring

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello 007sam.

I have sent you a private message.

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

I hope you all are having a great start to the week, today I’m happy offer 3 new releases for you guys, The Master Cat from Leander Games, Enchanting Spells from 2 by 2 Gaming and Dolphin’s Luck 2 from Booming Games.

The Master Cat (Leander Games)
More information:
RTP: 95.05%
Min: €0.25
Max: €250
Paylines: 25

Enchanting Spells (2 by 2 Gaming)
More information:
RTP: 95.98%
Min: €0.40
Max: €40
Paylines: 60

Dolphin’s Luck 2 (Booming Games)
More information:
RTP: 95.83%
Min: €0.20
Max: €60
Paylines: 20

All games above have Trophies and Rewards added and The Master Cat and Enchanting Spells are available for our UK players however, unfortunately, Dolphin’s Luck 2 is not.

I wish you all the best of luck and enjoy!

Br,
Daniel.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi everyone,

This Tuesday we will be releasing three new games, Easter Emeralds from Quickspin, Joker Expand from Playson and Golden Royals from Booming Games.

Easter Emeralds (Quickspin)
More information:
RTP: 96.58%
Min: €0.20
Max: €100
Paylines: 20

Joker Expand (Playson)
More information:
RTP: 96.5%
Min: €0.10
Max: €100
Paylines: 5

Golden Royals (Booming Games)
More information:
RTP: 96.5%
Min: €0.30
Max: €24
Paylines: 30

All games have Rewards and Trophies added and Eastern Emeralds and Joker Expand are available for UK however, unfortunately, Golden Royals is not.

I wish you all good luck!

Br,
Daniel.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi everyone,

I hope you all are having an amazing day, today I will be happy to offer two new games for you guys, which are Football Superstar from Endorphina and Mystery of Long Wei from iSoftbet.

Mystery of Long Wei (iSoftbet)
More information:
RTP: 97.01%
Min: €0.40
Max: €200
Paylines: 40

Football Superstar (Endorphina)
More information:
RTP: 96%
Min: €0.50
Max: €50
Paylines: 50

Both games above have Rewards and Trophies added and Mystery of Long Wei is available for UK however, unfortunately, Football Superstar is not.

I wish the best of luck!

Br,
Daniel.

 

[dionysus]

Bummer - I swear VS enjoys shooting itself in the foot about retaining/cultivating players.
Got a 100% reload bonus, so figured heck, why not.
But alas, no.
As I use prepaid cards, they require scans of OLD prepaid cards.
I understand, if I deposit and WD, wanting a scan of this card (even though other casinos dont even ask for this).
But old disposable non-loadable prepaid cards, from back when, that I deposited and lost on and didnt WD from? Why on gods' Eartch would I have saved them? Theyre in a landfill somewhere
*sigh

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Dionysus,

I have sent you a PM.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

Today we have three great games for you all, Tiki Fruits from Red Tiger Gaming, Madame Destiny from Pragmatic, and Lucky Lands by Endorphina!

More information about Tiki Fruits:

RTP: 96.05%
Min. bet: €0.2
Max. bet: €100
Paylines: Cluster pays

More information about Madame Destiny:

RTP: 96.5%
Min. bet: €0.1
Max. bet: €50
Paylines: 10

More information about Lucky Lands:

RTP: 96.00%
Min. bet: €0.25
Max. bet: €50
Paylines: 25

All of the games have Trophies and Rewards added, Tiki Fruits and Madame Destiny is available for UK players, Lucky Lands is, unfortunately, not.

I wish you all good luck!

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[slotmaster]

BTG games have gone down fyi.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello Slotmaster,

It seems like the games are working from our side, I have sent you a message to collect more information.

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[slotmaster]

Dan take BTG games offline, There are major issues, It's just taking my bets and losing connections, I probably have lost a quarter of my deposit cause of this.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi slotmaster,

I will look into it and also reply to your email.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[goatwack]

I'd like VS to take on less new releases, crazy as it sounds but it's getting somewhat ridiculous now just keeping up

More a fault with the industry and quality control I would have thought, but talk about over-saturated.

Perhaps a reason for all the technical gremlins on show, also

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Goatwack,

Thank you for your feedback, however, our goal is to have the largest game library available to our players.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[slotmaster]

I tried restarting the laptop, While still a lil sluggish I am at least able to play at the moment.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

I hope you all are having a fantastic Friday so far. Today we are releasing three brand new games that you can enjoy during the weekend. Diamond Mine from Blueprint which I know a lot of you been excited for and we can finally go live with it, God of Wild Sea from Playson and Fruits Gone Wild Stakelogic.


Diamond Mine (Blueprint)

More information:
RTP: 96.43%
Min: €0.20
Max: €100
Paylines: Megaways


God of Wild Sea (Playson)

More information:
RTP: 95.79%
Min: €0.25
Max: €100
Paylines: 25

Fruits Gone Wild (Stakelogic)

More information:
RTP: 96.39%
Min: €0.20
Max: €100
Paylines: 20


All three games have trophies and rewards added to them. Diamond Mine and God of Wild Sea is available for UK players, Fruits Gone Wild, however, is not.

I wish you all good luck!

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[nikantw]

Diamond Mine (Blueprint)
More information:
RTP: 96.43%
Min: €0.20
Max: €100
Paylines: Megaways

Just to add
"The maximum win from a single game is £250,000 or 10,000xBet"
so max win is caped at 2,500x bet (for a 100 bet size).

 

[Jono777]

Appreciate that it is probably supposed to be a "surprise" but does anyone know what you get for completing the 2 achievements shown below please?

Play this game a lot and want to know if it is worth pursuing when I can afford to.

Know that if it is the same as DoA (100FS + 200FS) it will be well worth it but also find it hard to believe that successfully doing so will award £60 worth of wager free FS

Cheers!

Edit: Never mind, I shall do it the correct way and play it out, please don't post any further replies as don't want to spoil surprise for others or break any rules, cheers

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Jono777,

I have sent you a PM.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[nikantw]

Diamond Mine (Blueprint)
More information:
RTP: 96.43%
Min: €0.20
Max: €100
Paylines: Megaways

Just to add
"The maximum win from a single game is £250,000 or 10,000xBet"
so max win is caped at 2,500x bet (for a 100 bet size).

@Dan.Videoslots , VS has the cap on 2,500x bet win! That means, the chance for any win over 2,500x is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP, otherwise what VS does would be illegal. (that is what @trancemonkey said)
I am just trying to confirm that with you, in case you have placed that max bet up to €100 by accident.

Do you confirm that the chance for any win over the 2,500x bet cap is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP?

 

[Steviedoo]

@Dan.Videoslots , VS has the cap on 2,500x bet win! That means, the chance for any win over 2,500x is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP, otherwise what VS does would be illegal. (that is what @trancemonkey said)
I am just trying to confirm that with you, in case you have placed that max bet up to €100 by accident.

Do you confirm that the chance for any win over the 2,500x bet cap is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP?

Nik
Why would capping a win at 2500x bet effect rtp?
That would mean vs somehow can control that bet size and it’s rtp at that bet size.

I imagine that anyway you reach the 250k will be ok after that it will be capped. Which means if you get 251k you only get 250k whatever the bet was.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi nikantw,

The max bet will not change the RTP for the game.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[nikantw]

Nik
Why would capping a win at 2500x bet effect rtp?
That would mean vs somehow can control that bet size and it’s rtp at that bet size.

I imagine that anyway you reach the 250k will be ok after that it will be capped. Which means if you get 251k you only get 250k whatever the bet was.

Hi nikantw,

The max bet will not change the RTP for the game.

Br,
Daniel.

I don't think you fully understood my point, both of you.

Lets take a hypothetical example:

Lets say we have a game called "A" with TRTP of 96%. The game has 70% of the TRTP allocated to base game wins that can pay up to 1000x bet (that includes the trigger for the bonus that pays 1000x bet) and the rest of the TRTP (26%) is allocated inside the bonus game that pays up to 4000x. And lets say there is a chance to get e retrigger of the bonus that will end up paying more than 5000x but it is so rare that the RTP allocated to that is 0,0001%.

Now if a casino places a cap on any wins from this game "A" at 1000x, it is obvious that the actual TRTP for the players will only be 70%, because they will only get paid for the base game wins and for the trigger of the bonus. The casino will be confiscating the bonus that is 26% of the TRTP.

Now a cap on any wins from this game "A" at 1000x or a cap on any wins at €100,000, are not the same thing. It depends on the max bet allowed.
If there is only one bet size, the €100, then they are both the same and with a cap at €100,000 all the players in our example will only get 70% RTP.
If the bet size is €0.20 - €100, then with a cap at €100,000 it depends on the player. For example a lowroller will have 96% RTP but a highroller only betting max bet will get 70% RTP.
If the bet size is €0.20 - €20, then with a cap at €100,000 the max pay will be 5000x (20 bet x 5000x = 100,000). That includes base and bonus game pays inside the 96% and that is the only legal scenario in our example. And it is legal becaouse even though it is possible to get a win over 5000x that chance is very small and the RTP allocated to that is 0,0001%.


I explained this best I could and I am sorry if it wasn't clear before.
But it is very serious, please @Dan.Videoslots take a good look at it.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Nikantw,

I understand your point here, however these are the settings that the provider has provided us with.

However I will bring this up with them and keep you updated.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[Sonict]

I guess Canadians aren't allowed to play the Ganapati slots? I tried to load them up, but all I see is a black screen. When I tried to load up the url from the provider directly for kicks, I got my answer...

The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Sonict,

Unfortunately Ganapati is not available for players in Canada.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[Sonict]

That is what I figured. I can see the slots on the site so I figured I could play them. Time to update the blocklist.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Everyone,


I hope you all had a good weekend, I have two new game releases to offer you today, Wildcano (Red Rake Gaming) and Big Froot (Genii).

Wildcano:
Min Bet: 0.16
Max Bet: 120
Lines: 12
RTP: 96.3%

Big Froot:
Min Bet: 0.25
Max Bet:31.25
Lines: 25
RTP: 96%

Both of today’s games have trophies and rewards added, unfortunately they are not available for our UK players.

I wish you all the best of luck and enjoy!

Br,
Daniel.

 

[trancemonkey]

I don't think you fully understood my point, both of you.

Lets take a hypothetical example:

Lets say we have a game called "A" with TRTP of 96%. The game has 70% of the TRTP allocated to base game wins that can pay up to 1000x bet (that includes the trigger for the bonus that pays 1000x bet) and the rest of the TRTP (26%) is allocated inside the bonus game that pays up to 4000x. And lets say there is a chance to get e retrigger of the bonus that will end up paying more than 5000x but it is so rare that the RTP allocated to that is 0,0001%.

Now if a casino places a cap on any wins from this game "A" at 1000x, it is obvious that the actual TRTP for the players will only be 70%, because they will only get paid for the base game wins and for the trigger of the bonus. The casino will be confiscating the bonus that is 26% of the TRTP.

Now a cap on any wins from this game "A" at 1000x or a cap on any wins at €100,000, are not the same thing. It depends on the max bet allowed.
If there is only one bet size, the €100, then they are both the same and with a cap at €100,000 all the players in our example will only get 70% RTP.
If the bet size is €0.20 - €100, then with a cap at €100,000 it depends on the player. For example a lowroller will have 96% RTP but a highroller only betting max bet will get 70% RTP.
If the bet size is €0.20 - €20, then with a cap at €100,000 the max pay will be 5000x (20 bet x 5000x = 100,000). That includes base and bonus game pays inside the 96% and that is the only legal scenario in our example. And it is legal becaouse even though it is possible to get a win over 5000x that chance is very small and the RTP allocated to that is 0,0001%.


I explained this best I could and I am sorry if it wasn't clear before.
But it is very serious, please @Dan.Videoslots take a good look at it.

There isn't a game on earth that has 26% of all of it's winnings coming from 1000x wins or more....
If a casino caps at £100,000 then they are unlikely to have a maximum bet of £100. In fact, i think the maximum bet on most of BTG games is £40 at most casinos, which even at 5000x would only be £200,000.
The games providers will give casinos information on max liability and therefore it is then up to the casino what they want to set the max stake to - but if a casino was purposely setting the max stake high, and the max liability very low then yes, that would certainly seem "dodgy".

It is up to the individual casino to do the right thing - the games provider can only supply the casino with information.

 

[nikantw]

There isn't a game on earth that has 26% of all of it's winnings coming from 1000x wins or more....

I know, I wanted to make a point. Even if it was 0,5% of the RTP it would still be illegal to steal it from the players.

....
If a casino caps at £100,000 then they are unlikely to have a maximum bet of £100. In fact, i think the maximum bet on most of BTG games is £40 at most casinos, which even at 5000x would only be £200,000.
The games providers will give casinos information on max liability and therefore it is then up to the casino what they want to set the max stake to - but if a casino was purposely setting the max stake high, and the max liability very low then yes, that would certainly seem "dodgy".

It is up to the individual casino to do the right thing - the games provider can only supply the casino with information.

The game in question is Diamond Mine (Blueprint), RTP: 96.43%, Min: €0.20, Max: €100, Paylines: Megaways.
It's a Bonanza clone, probably same math (BTG - Blueprint agreement), and the cap at VS is different from the other casinos.

Can you comment about this specifically?
Although we pretty much got the answer we wanted.

 

[trancemonkey]

It wouldn't be illegal because it clearly states in the T's & C's there is a maximum payout, so if you CHOOSE to play at high stakes (very important word there - choose) then you know the maximum win is capped.
Whether it's morally correct - that's a different issue, and one which i'm not going to be drawn in to commenting on

 

[nikantw]

It wouldn't be illegal because it clearly states in the T's & C's there is a maximum payout, so if you CHOOSE to play at high stakes (very important word there - choose) then you know the maximum win is capped.
Whether it's morally correct - that's a different issue, and one which i'm not going to be drawn in to commenting on

Really? A way of play that lowers the return to player without specifically stating it does so? That is a choice? Not knowing?
Want a bet what UKGC or any other actually will say about it?

 

[trancemonkey]

Really? A way of play that lowers the return to player without specifically stating it does so? That is a choice? Not knowing?
Want a bet what UKGC or any other actually will say about it?

Well, i know what the UKGC will say about it - as i have had to deal with them with regards to capping on many occasions, so i know the rules.
And it does specifically state that the maximum win is capped - which by proxy means that the RTP would be lowered in the cases where it was capped.

And the other thing you have to bear in mind is this - the game IS running at the correct RTP. As far as the game maths is concerned, it paid out the entire win.
Casinos choose what to cap the game at - it doesn't affect the game maths directly.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi everyone,

This Tuesday we will be releasing one new game, Ogre Empire from Betsoft.

More information about Ogre Empire:
RTP: 95.23%
Min: €0.25
Max: €25
Paylines: 25

The game has Rewards and Trophies added however, unfortunately it is not available for our UK players.

I wish you all good luck and enjoy!

Br,
Daniel.

 

[nikantw]

And it does specifically state that the maximum win is capped - which by proxy means that the RTP would be lowered in the cases where it was capped.

No it doesn't, not necessarily, depends on the chances for the big hit and the bet size. UKGC thinks all players are mathematicians?!

... it doesn't affect the game maths directly.

Nobody said it does. It can change the return to player though.

Found your original post. With your additional explanation now it is clearly another big fail for UKGC.
Players completely unprotected and 1000 ways for casinos to steal their money.

Ask me anything (about slots)!

"Interesting question.... in most jurisdictions capping is allowable as long as the capping didn't cause a huge change in the TRTP. There have been times where we have had to change the payout of the game at certain bet sizes to take in to account capping so that the TRTP was very close to that without capping although this is only normally a problem with jurisdictions with a maximum LEGAL prize. Online this isn't the case of course, but as far as I'm aware as long as you tell the player the RTP and the maximum prize cap, then it is allowable for the game to cap even if this does affect the RTP as the game provider and casino have given the player the information needed to allow them to make an informed decision. Of course, it is also the responsibility of the casino to make sure they don't have a high Max bet and low max prize as that would be unfair"

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

The win cap in this game is not something that we have decided, but a limit from the platform being used by the provider. All of the games have been certified with this cap in mind by the UKGC and the cap should be the same in all Casinos as far as I have been informed.

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[nikantw]

Hello everyone,

The win cap in this game is not something that we have decided, but a limit from the platform being used by the provider. All of the games have been certified with this cap in mind by the UKGC and the cap should be the same in all Casinos as far as I have been informed.

Best regards,
Daniel.

Some casinos have max bet at €50 Dan. You and others have it set at €100 and that can have a big impact on the return to player (when a cap like 250k is involved).
What trance said is that the game is tested without the cap, to confirm the RTP, but then is licenced with the cap and without any concern how the cap affects the actuall return to player.

Can I ask:

1) What will be the long term (lets say after 200 billion spins) return to a player doing only €100 spins at Diamond Mine at VS?
2) What is the chance for a player doing €100 bets at Diamond Mine to win more than €250,000?

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello Nikantw,

The game is tested and certified with the cap in place, so the published RTP already takes this in consideration.

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[nikantw]

Hello Nikantw,

The game is tested and certified with the cap in place, so the published RTP already takes this in consideration.

Best regards,
Daniel.

It was tested with the 250k cap in place and with the 100 max bet setting and it produced RTP 96.43%?

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello again Nikantw,

Yes, that is the information I have received regarding this.

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[bebo67]

Just saying hello! Its been a while. Now I'm saying goodnight!

 

[trancemonkey]

No it doesn't, not necessarily, depends on the chances for the big hit and the bet size. UKGC thinks all players are mathematicians?!



Nobody said it does. It can change the return to player though.

Found your original post. With your additional explanation now it is clearly another big fail for UKGC.
Players completely unprotected and 1000 ways for casinos to steal their money.

Ask me anything (about slots)!

"Interesting question.... in most jurisdictions capping is allowable as long as the capping didn't cause a huge change in the TRTP. There have been times where we have had to change the payout of the game at certain bet sizes to take in to account capping so that the TRTP was very close to that without capping although this is only normally a problem with jurisdictions with a maximum LEGAL prize. Online this isn't the case of course, but as far as I'm aware as long as you tell the player the RTP and the maximum prize cap, then it is allowable for the game to cap even if this does affect the RTP as the game provider and casino have given the player the information needed to allow them to make an informed decision. Of course, it is also the responsibility of the casino to make sure they don't have a high Max bet and low max prize as that would be unfair"

Exactly - my original post backs up my recent post. And it's nothing to do with the UKGC - it's the test houses that certify the games, not the UKGC. If VideoSlots have information from BTG that the game is certified with the cap and the max stake, then that's all the UKGC are interested in.

Plus you have no way of knowing that the game doesn't use different maths at higher stakes in order to avoid ever hitting the cap... this would be perfectly legal, and fair.