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[colinsunderland]

Why the stewards enquiry? They could easily do as others do and don't give you anything back

I'm just trying to understand how it works, not a stewards enquiry at all. They state "Regardless if you win or lose you will receive 25% cashback on all your bets in our game categories Videoslots and Slots. The more you BET, the more you GET!" and I think its pretty safe to say that isn't true.

Most companies do projected revenue reports, not just casinos which are based on a lot of factors including previous months profits, same time of year, increased customer bases, SE/Dormant accounts etc etc etc

They are usually 95% accurate which allows business to get 'ahead of the game' nothing sinister just the sign of a well run business.

In which case that should be stated, I like to play at casino's that are transparent, I don't think they should just guess how much they are going to make in any one day, they should do the calculation how much you are getting the following day when they know their profit, not what they think they might make, not sure how they can even guess at how much they might make as the slots are supposed to be random.

 

[interlog]

I'm just trying to understand how it works, not a stewards enquiry at all. They state "Regardless if you win or lose you will receive 25% cashback on all your bets in our game categories Videoslots and Slots. The more you BET, the more you GET!" and I think its pretty safe to say that isn't true.

And then it clearly continues with a section headed "How is the cashback calculated?" on their cashback page:

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In which case that should be stated, I like to play at casino's that are transparent, I don't think they should just guess how much they are going to make in any one day, they should do the calculation how much you are getting the following day when they know their profit, not what they think they might make, not sure how they can even guess at how much they might make as the slots are supposed to be random.

And that is why I called it a stewards enquiry. Why do you want to know the ins and outs on how it is calculated. I am more than happy to see the notification at the end of the game session letting me know how much cash back I earned and I for one am not going to challenge it and make a song a dance about it.

 

[mac72]

Why the stewards enquiry? They could easily do as others do and don't give you anything back

And then they probably wouldn't get as many players!

I assume (as it is not clear) that the figure you get at the end of a game is an "educated guess" based on historical figures and that figure is then "tweaked" when your full days cashback is calculated the following day? If thats the case it should really say when you close a game "you earned approx XXX in cashback" .

If thats not the case and they are actually paying based on historical figures and not the actual losses of all players on a given day then it also might be better to make that clearer by saying something like "you will receive a share of 25% of our average profits, split between all players who play on a that day and split according to how much each player wagers, capped at £300 per player"

Jonmincer- you can make an educated guess but who's to say a high roller drops 100k or wins 100k any day , can happen so easily especially with DOA max bet £18.I'm pretty sure that would skew the figures somewhat.

I can see how someone new , not as savvy as the forum members could sign up to VS and completely misinterpret the Cashback deal (thinking they get back 25% of what they wager) and its probably something they should address.

That said VS is my number 1 at the moment and all the promos cashback/races/battle of slots are brilliant as are the ultra fast payouts. Clarity on this issue won't stop me from playing there but i think its a fair question to be asked all the same.

 

[colinsunderland]

And then it clearly continues with a section headed "How is the cashback calculated?" on their cashback page:

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yes, which also isn't true, I'm struggling to understand your point.

And that is why I called it a stewards enquiry. Why do you want to know the ins and outs on how it is calculated. I am more than happy to see the notification at the end of the game session letting me know how much cash back I earned and I for one am not going to challenge it and make a song a dance about it.

If I am spending my money somewhere on the promise of something then I expect the place I'm spending that money to be truthful with me. The cashback is a bonus. If you signed up at a casino and they offered a 100% match bonus on your first deposit, if you deposited £100, got a £20 bonus then when asked why, they replied, oh well, we guessed you would only deposit £20 so thats the bonus we gave you, would you be happy? How about if the RTP of a game was advertised at 96.5%, and it was found out to be only 91.5%, would you be ok if the game provider said, oh we guessed, would you be happy as long as you won something? Of course not so why should you be happy with VS claiming you get 25% back on all your bets, or on some algorithm on 25% of their daily profits, when in fact the figures could actually be 15%, 5%, or 1%?

 

[Harry_BKK]

If I am spending my money somewhere on the promise of something then I expect the place I'm spending that money to be truthful with me. The cashback is a bonus. If you signed up at a casino and they offered a 100% match bonus on your first deposit, if you deposited £100, got a £20 bonus then when asked why, they replied, oh well, we guessed you would only deposit £20 so thats the bonus we gave you, would you be happy? How about if the RTP of a game was advertised at 96.5%, and it was found out to be only 91.5%, would you be ok if the game provider said, oh we guessed, would you be happy as long as you won something? Of course not so why should you be happy with VS claiming you get 25% back on all your bets, or on some algorithm on 25% of their daily profits, when in fact the figures could actually be 15%, 5%, or 1%?

I understand your point Colin. However, everybody with just a little gaming experience will know that it is not 25% of your deposits.

- It actually works out at roughly 1% of 100 wagered.

- On top you have the race winnings which depend on your play style. The max. points/spin is 3 and that you get for spinning at 2$ or over.

- Last but not least the trophies which give you FS, Race points, Increased Cashback.

All together it works out over time to appr. 8-10% of your deposits. And remember, "IT IS WAGER FREE".

I registered with VS beginning of Feb-2015 and received until end of Dec-2015 a total of 7% of my deposits from Cashback/Race + the trophies which in my opinion accumulate to another 1-2%. And that with a total of AUD 19K in deposits and AUD 17K in withdrawals. A higher percentage would've certainly been possible with some smarter gaming, but at the beginning i did not fully read the in's and out's of the Cashback/Race system and was chucking away in the first few months at VS with mostly high 'ish bets.

At the end of the day I take 8-10% wager free anytime over an EV- bonus (be it 50% or 100%) which i need to wager 30-60 x before i can cash out. Some would say, rather 1$ in my pocket than 10$ on the table.

The beauty of the VS system is that everybody gets it, no matter if you lose or win. There is no bonus ban hammer looming around and there are no T&C's you have to watch over like a hawk for not violating them.

 

[mac72]

Harry, your a stats man so where it may end up being roughly xx of your deposits what colin is querying (and i fully agree with him) is really very simple: They state 25% of their profits so that it what it should be - period, and the issue here is how they are able on the face of it to work out what they have made, before they've made it.
Nobody is disputing its a good deal but some part of the mechanism (should it solely be the notification after you close the game "you earned xxx") is flawed. Actually had they not had that popup nobody would even be asking the question! I didn't think Philip explained it well at all and would like him to come back and give some more clarity to the issue.

 

[AintWon1967]

I find VideoSlots had good clarification information in their FAQ (at least I found it helpful before I joined them and it all made sense to me)

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What is Videoslots.com´s Cashback?

As the first casino online, we offer our players a Cashback base on our expected profits. The more you play, the more cash you will get, regardless if you win or lose in the casino. The Cashback is paid every Friday, and is based on the game play from the previous week. Read more about Videoslots Cashback.

Also...
Where can I calculate my Cashback and how?
What is the Cashback based on?
When do I earn Cashback?
What is the maximum amount I can earn in Cashback?
When is the Cashback paid out?

Connie

 

[hedgehok]

It's actually very simple:

The formula is:

CB = (1-TRTP) x 25% x wagered amount

There is no guessing, the CB can be derived 100% accurately with every bet you make. The TRTP is available for every game under:

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The second left drop-down has to be set to "Theoretical".

 

[mac72]

It's actually very simple:

The formula is:

CB = (1-TRTP) x 25% x wagered amount

There is no guessing, the CB can be derived 100% accurately with every bet you make. The TRTP is available for every game under:

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

The second left drop-down has to be set to "Theoretical".

Ah its clear now then
So if i'm told all day "you earned xxx" and videoslots end up making a loss for the day due to a couple of massive hits i still get it even though i should be getting 25% of £0

 

[mac72]

I find VideoSlots had good clarification information in their FAQ (at least I found it helpful before I joined them and it all made sense to me)

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

What is Videoslots.com´s Cashback?

As the first casino online, we offer our players a Cashback base on our expected profits. The more you play, the more cash you will get, regardless if you win or lose in the casino. The Cashback is paid every Friday, and is based on the game play from the previous week. Read more about Videoslots Cashback.

Also...
Where can I calculate my Cashback and how?
What is the Cashback based on?
When do I earn Cashback?
What is the maximum amount I can earn in Cashback?
When is the Cashback paid out?

Connie

Your cashback is updated DAILY in arrears so please tell me where in the FAQ's it deals with knowing my portion of 25% of an as yet undefined figure

 

[hedgehok]

Ah its clear now then
So if i'm told all day "you earned xxx" and videoslots end up making a loss for the day due to a couple of massive hits i still get it even though i should be getting 25% of £0

Yes, it's not related to their daily profit. It's related to their theoretical profit on the specific slot calculated as (1-TRTP). You can also call it "house edge".

 

[mac72]

Yes, it's not related to their daily profit. It's related to their theoretical profit on the specific slot calculated as (1-TRTP). You can also call it "house edge".

I'm well aware of the "house edge" it is this sloppy way of saying it thats causing all this confusion:
"We pay 25% of our daily winnings in Cashback to our players. You earn Cashback on all your bets, if you do not have an active Bonus on your account or play progressive jackpot games. It does not matter if you win or lose. The more you bet – the more you get!"

Simply add "theoretical daily winnings" and the debate is over,albeit confused by the fact that CS tell you that cashback is calculated at the end of the day and updated overnight and the fact that i was of the impression that this took into account all players play not just my own

 

[hedgehok]

I'm well aware of the "house edge" it is this sloppy way of saying it thats causing all this confusion:
"We pay 25% of our daily winnings in Cashback to our players. You earn Cashback on all your bets, if you do not have an active Bonus on your account or play progressive jackpot games. It does not matter if you win or lose. The more you bet – the more you get!"

Simply add "theoretical daily winnings" and the debate is over,albeit confused by the fact that CS tell you that cashback is calculated at the end of the day and updated overnight and the fact that i was of the impression that this took into account all players play not just my own

Sure. I would recommend to keep everything as it is and make another link "how cashback is calculated" with additional information for those who are interested in the math behind it.

 

[mac72]

Sure. I would recommend to keep everything as it is and make another link "how cashback is calculated" with additional information for those who are interested in the math behind it.

The math is completely irrelevant and thats the issue.No maths genius can work out 25% of something if they don't know what that something is.
They promote it as 25% of their daily profits when what you are saying is that it is actually 25% of their theoretical profit. It easy if you work it out on the "theoretical" and impossible to tell at 3pm in the day after i've wagered £1000 on DOA what it is on actual profit.
Therefore the issue is the wording absolutely nothing to do with the math and thats why to say "leave it as it is" in my opinion would be an error as well as false advertising

 

[hedgehok]

The math is completely irrelevant and thats the issue.No maths genius can work out 25% of something if they don't know what that something is.
They promote it as 25% of their daily profits when what you are saying is that it is actually 25% of their theoretical profit. It easy if you work it out on the "theoretical" and impossible to tell at 3pm in the day after i've wagered £1000 on DOA what it is on actual profit.
Therefore the issue is the wording absolutely nothing to do with the math and thats why to say "leave it as it is" in my opinion would be an error as well as false advertising

Look the formulation they use might not be the most accurate but it's difficult to formulate an equation with words without confusing everybody. Most of the players don't care how exactly it's calculated, they just enjoy when it's Friday and they get something back. In order to not confuse most people but also offer an explanation for the more interested players a link with further explanation would be the best thing they can do imho.

 

[mac72]

Look the formulation they use might not be the most accurate but it's difficult to formulate an equation with words without confusing everybody. Most of the players don't care how exactly it's calculated, they just enjoy when it's Friday and they get something back. In order to not confuse most people but also offer an explanation for the more interested players a link with further explanation would be the best thing they can do imho.

The only reason the formulation is difficult to understand is they promote it as 25% of X when its actually 25% of Y

 

[dionysus]

In order to not confuse most people but also offer an explanation for the more interested players a link with further explanation would be the best thing they can do imho.

Agreed. At 5 pages running why not start a thread called:

Videolsots: Explaining cashback

 

[mac72]

Agreed. At 5 pages running why not start a thread called:

Videolsots: Explaining cashback

It is videoslots that created the mess.
It states "we give 25% of our daily profits"
IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT- YES OR NO???

 

[dionysus]

It is videoslots that created the mess.
It states "we give 25% of our daily profits"
IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT- YES OR NO???

At this point, I honestly don't know lol, that's why I'm with hedge - start a thread

 

[hedgehok]

It is videoslots that created the mess.
It states "we give 25% of our daily profits"
IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT- YES OR NO???

Long term it doesn't matter if they base the cashback on theoretical or factual profits because it evens out, but if you base it on theoretical gains it's easier to implement as it can be continuously calculated.

At this point, I honestly don't know lol, that's why I'm with hedge - start a thread

Agreed.

 

[mac72]

Long term it doesn't matter if they base the cashback on theoretical or factual profits because it evens out, but if you base it on theoretical gains it's easier to implement as it can be continuously calculated.




Agreed.

It absolutely does matter and heres why. Long term is very long term so someone might only play there for a few weeks and if they are expecting as stated "actual profit dividend" it may not be that or anything like it for the period

 

[hedgehok]

It absolutely does matter and heres why. Long term is very long term so someone might only play there for a few weeks and if they are expecting as stated "actual profit dividend" it may not be that or anything like it for the period

They should clarify it with further explanation as I've suggested for people that are interested in the subject. That's my final statement.

 

[datshowiwoll]

So on the site if you click through from the initial banner advertising the cashback (which I agree could be misconstrued if you are a new/naive player) it says "25% cashback on all your bets"

I always understood that meant if you bet 100 x £1 on a slot with 97% TRTP then your cashback would be 25% of the 3% or in my example 0.75

 

[colinsunderland]

I understand your point Colin. However, everybody with just a little gaming experience will know that it is not 25% of your deposits.

- It actually works out at roughly 1% of 100 wagered.

- On top you have the race winnings which depend on your play style. The max. points/spin is 3 and that you get for spinning at 2$ or over.

- Last but not least the trophies which give you FS, Race points, Increased Cashback.

All together it works out over time to appr. 8-10% of your deposits. And remember, "IT IS WAGER FREE".

I registered with VS beginning of Feb-2015 and received until end of Dec-2015 a total of 7% of my deposits from Cashback/Race + the trophies which in my opinion accumulate to another 1-2%. And that with a total of AUD 19K in deposits and AUD 17K in withdrawals. A higher percentage would've certainly been possible with some smarter gaming, but at the beginning i did not fully read the in's and out's of the Cashback/Race system and was chucking away in the first few months at VS with mostly high 'ish bets.

At the end of the day I take 8-10% wager free anytime over an EV- bonus (be it 50% or 100%) which i need to wager 30-60 x before i can cash out. Some would say, rather 1$ in my pocket than 10$ on the table.

The beauty of the VS system is that everybody gets it, no matter if you lose or win. There is no bonus ban hammer looming around and there are no T&C's you have to watch over like a hawk for not violating them.

Thanks please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its not a good deal. Its free cashback if its 1% or 25%, but it is a bonus still, and the terms are extremely unclear. A new player who doesn't play at casino's regularly will see the headline of 25% of all your bets and think 'wow so if I deposit £100 manage to play through £1000, then I will get £250 cashback. I know thats not the case, you know thats not the case, most people on this forum will know its not the case, but thousands of newbies won't.
Then theres the fact if you delve a little deeper it says 25% of the profits, yet they can't possibly know the profits of that day until it is over

I keep seeing people saying how clear VS's terms are, and they aren't, not at all.

Harry, your a stats man so where it may end up being roughly xx of your deposits what colin is querying (and i fully agree with him) is really very simple: They state 25% of their profits so that it what it should be - period, and the issue here is how they are able on the face of it to work out what they have made, before they've made it.
Nobody is disputing its a good deal but some part of the mechanism (should it solely be the notification after you close the game "you earned xxx") is flawed. Actually had they not had that popup nobody would even be asking the question! I didn't think Philip explained it well at all and would like him to come back and give some more clarity to the issue.

Thats it exactly.

It's actually very simple:

The formula is:

CB = (1-TRTP) x 25% x wagered amount

There is no guessing, the CB can be derived 100% accurately with every bet you make. The TRTP is available for every game under:

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

The second left drop-down has to be set to "Theoretical".

But how do they know the wagered amount per day before the day is over? Yes they will know your wagered amount, but the cashback isn't calculated on what you wager, but what everyone as a whole loses minus costs.

thanks to everyone who has posted, I didn't think this would cause so much debate

 

[nutnut]

why are people making a big issue over the wording? How about they remove the cashback give you nothing then you can't whine over it

Seriously some people just love to find reasons to moan.

 

[colinsunderland]

why are people making a big issue over the wording? How about they remove the cashback give you nothing then you can't whine over it

Seriously some people just love to find reasons to moan.

Maybe because the wording is completely wrong?
How about you go to your bank for a loan, the wording says 6% APR then they charge you 60%, you would be ok with that as at least they gave you the loan?

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi everyone!

There is one thing we love more than Fridays, and that is new game releases! Today we give you Pirates Treasures Deluxe from Playson, a game with a cool pirate theme and some awesome features. The game is available both on desktop and mobile. I wish you all a wonderful weekend!

Game information about Pirates Treasures Deluxe:
Min Bet: € 0.21
Max Bet: € 420
Bet Lines: 21
Theoretical RTP: 95.93%

//Daniel

 

[Philip]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your feedback.

Bottom line is that the cashback is based on our theoretical profit. I will discuss with my colleagues and see if there is anything we can change in the wording of this promotion.

Best regards,

Philip

 

[syntynyt]

the abundance of novomatics screens/videos as of late makes me wish to see this provider at VS. i play them on weekly basis anyway(games up to 2012) in landbased national lottery/cafe bars, just today i lost the equivalent of 70eur but no moans, when i won i bought popular electronics, brand new wardrobe, treated my mouth with the best food and the second head with the cutest yet expensive model from craiglist. i've had winning streaks that i have won at absolutely all machines from the hall or 5 pharaohs followed by 4 twice during feature. problem in landbased is you never know when/if a machine has paid already a huge hit, operators are silent, and usually i end up feeding the next huge hit that i hear about in the streets. in online is more practical and this abundance i see makes me want to play online novos by saving what i spend in landbased, definetly better chances. cant play any thanks to our crappy regulator but would love to at VS

 

[ginzink]

Withdrawals for norwegians

Hi,

Any other norwegians playing at videoslots and withdrawing directly to bank account?
For every withdrawal i get exactly 100 NOK less than i withdrew, no matter if i withdraw 500 NOK or 8000 NOK.

Contacted the rep which kindly looked into at and said they have no fee, so it is the bank who is taking a fee. However i withdraw directly to bank from all sites, and this is the only one i get "fee".
Also weird with 100 NOK each time. Maybe it comes down to the way it is transfered or something which trigger a fee from my bank?

 

[interlog]

Maybe because the wording is completely wrong?
How about you go to your bank for a loan, the wording says 6% APR then they charge you 60%, you would be ok with that as at least they gave you the loan?

You're comparing apples with oranges. When you enter into a loan agreement it is legally binding. The cashback isn't ( Videoslots.com reserves the right to withdraw any wrong paid cashback and to change or end this promotion at any given time ).

 

[slotmaster]

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Hi everyone!

There is one thing we love more than Fridays, and that is new game releases! Today we give you Pirates Treasures Deluxe from Playson, a game with a cool pirate theme and some awesome features. The game is available both on desktop and mobile. I wish you all a wonderful weekend!

Game information about Pirates Treasures Deluxe:
Min Bet: € 0.21
Max Bet: € 420
Bet Lines: 21
Theoretical RTP: 95.93%

//Daniel

Kind of scared to post this but my review of this game.

It's a good game as in I am liking it, Don't know if it was beginner's luck but I had some playtime and boosted the balance up as I hit a few free spins including 4 scatter's twice.

Some of the pay's are low though, Their is a bonus within the free spins where you pick a ship, only got low amounts on my picks so don't know how big you can win on it.

My concern is with the max bet, When you first open the game the bet is set high and their is a max bet button if I recall so be VERY careful. I don't know if Philip or Dan can talk to the provider and have the max bet lowered as I am sure anyone would be devastated to lose whole balance on 1 spin.

Maybe the higher rollers on here like hedgehok and kasinoking can say what the max bet should be set at?.

 

[Tirilej]

My concern is with the max bet, When you first open the game the bet is set high and their is a max bet button if I recall so be VERY careful. I don't know if Philip or Dan can talk to the provider and have the max bet lowered as I am sure anyone would be devastated to lose whole balance on 1 spin.

Never worry about that at Videoslots since you can set your own Max bet.

Go to responsible gaming on their site. There you have the option to choose your own highest bet. You can never go over it if you don't change it yourself. If you want to change it again I think it will take a week so don't set it too low.

 

[spintee]

The max bet even reset on me once, Lucky I was just looking in my account and seen the max bet protection had changed back,

 

[Philip]

Hi,

Any other norwegians playing at videoslots and withdrawing directly to bank account?
For every withdrawal i get exactly 100 NOK less than i withdrew, no matter if i withdraw 500 NOK or 8000 NOK.

Contacted the rep which kindly looked into at and said they have no fee, so it is the bank who is taking a fee. However i withdraw directly to bank from all sites, and this is the only one i get "fee".
Also weird with 100 NOK each time. Maybe it comes down to the way it is transfered or something which trigger a fee from my bank?

Hi ginzink,

As you wrote, we don't take any fee on bank withdrawals. Therefore should you have received less than what you withdrew, kindly check with your bank.

Best regards,

Philip

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Kind of scared to post this but my review of this game.

It's a good game as in I am liking it, Don't know if it was beginner's luck but I had some playtime and boosted the balance up as I hit a few free spins including 4 scatter's twice.

Some of the pay's are low though, Their is a bonus within the free spins where you pick a ship, only got low amounts on my picks so don't know how big you can win on it.

My concern is with the max bet, When you first open the game the bet is set high and their is a max bet button if I recall so be VERY careful. I don't know if Philip or Dan can talk to the provider and have the max bet lowered as I am sure anyone would be devastated to lose whole balance on 1 spin.

Maybe the higher rollers on here like hedgehok and kasinoking can say what the max bet should be set at?.

Hi Slotmaster,

I will contact them and see what we can do, thank you for good feedback.

Br,

Daniel

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi all,

Today we will release a game from iSoftBet that is exclusive on Videoslots.com until the 17th of March. The game is called Mega Boy and it will take you on a trip down memory lane with its graphics and theme. The game is available on both desktop and mobile. This slot is not available for UK players.

Game information about Mega Boy:
Min Bet: € 0.25
Max Bet: € 100
Bet Lines: 25
Theoretical RTP: 95.54%

Trophies with rewards has been added for this game

//Daniel

 

[interlog]

I am really impressed by the speed of withdrawals. I usually withdraw after I have reached my withdrawal target and continue playing with the remainder of the money until I reach the next withdrawal.

This morning has been insane. First withdrawal of £500, followed by one of £200 followed by one of £300. All of them processed so quick that I couldn't cancel any of them to combine them into one big withdrawal.

Keep up the good work Videoslots

 

[orion]

Kudos to Philip.

I had a problem with the verification process. I must admit Philip was very kind, careful and quick in helping me with a positive solution.

Sincerely, I did appreciate his good will to fix the matter. And he fixed it. If I am returning to play on VS is only because of him.

 

[xxshepxx]

Lilke the look of the new one coming,

How about some meister spins on it on the release date

 

[dionysus]

Lilke the look of the new one coming,

How about some meister spins on it on the release date

Re - This slot is not available for UK players.

 

[pinkfloyd]

howdy all

havent signed to a new casino in a long time and thinking about this one for some new games to try.
so far all the forum talk seems good , fast payouts , some nice wins etc
the one question
should i take the 1st deposit bonus ? (the 10 bux release scares me )
i take bonuses randomly so not fussed either way.
also what would be a couple of good games to try ? played nearly all the mg ones .
i like free spin rounds and not so much pick a box bonus rounds. variance doesnt bother me .

cheers gl all

 

[Harry_BKK]

howdy all

havent signed to a new casino in a long time and thinking about this one for some new games to try.
so far all the forum talk seems good , fast payouts , some nice wins etc
the one question
should i take the 1st deposit bonus ? (the 10 bux release scares me )
i take bonuses randomly so not fussed either way.
also what would be a couple of good games to try ? played nearly all the mg ones .
i like free spin rounds and not so much pick a box bonus rounds. variance doesnt bother me .

cheers gl all

I would take the 100% bonus and should you bust out quickly, then forfeit it before you make a second deposit. It will certainly extend your playtime on your first deposit and should you get lucky to get through the WR then it is 100% extra bucks

If you chose not to take the Welcome Bonus you will immediately earn cashback and take part in the weekly race. On a good session that can be worth as much as your deposit, on a poor one though just a few bucks.

You will not earn Cashback or advance in the Weekly Race when your bonus is active!!!

The game selection is huge, but i would go for some WMS like Raging Rhino, Zeus etc (can't play them anymore from my location ). That is if you can play them from Australia

 

[lockinlove]

nevermind will PM rep

 

[Philip]

Hi lockinlove,

Just replied to your PM

Best regards,

Philip

 

[lockinlove]

thanks for the quick response!

Even though I dont play at your casino anymore, I hope you guys stick around the forum like you have been thus far. I know players appreciate it very much. I remember when BetAt first came around they were just as active as you guys...but from what I can tell they are only active about 10% of what they used to be.

Really well done to you two reps who are on here to help etc numerous time throughout the day

 

[spintee]

thanks for the quick response!

Even though I dont play at your casino anymore, I hope you guys stick around the forum like you have been thus far. I know players appreciate it very much. I remember when BetAt first came around they were just as active as you guys...but from what I can tell they are only active about 10% of what they used to be.

Really well done to you two reps who are on here to help etc numerous time throughout the day

Thats where VS are way above and on top of the league, They seem to be customer focused, It probably easy said than done but boy its appreciated and goes along way and respected, Like you said alot of casino's / Reps come on board and do a Houdini on us, Seem to get what they want and as soon as the cloths squeezed dry they do not want to seem to know,

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello everyone!

Today we have a game release from Bally for you to try out. The game is called Quick Hit Platinum Blazing 7s, and comes with lots of features and big win possibilities. Try the game today and stay tuned for more news and updates.

Game information about Quick Hit Platinum Blazing 7s:
Min Bet: € 0.30
Max Bet: € 150
Bet Lines: 30
Theoretical RTP: 94.06%

Trophies with rewards has been added for this game

//Daniel

 

[miksaxxx]

hmm. VIP program

what you have to think about [email protected] ?

First i get good feeling about it..

But now it has been insane offers..

Lets say:

1 :I losed 1k in day: Answer is that yesterday you withdraw 400 €. ( but , VIP manager dint go to see my account that, for that 400€ withdraw i deposit before 500 € ) So VIP Manager can give you 50% match... NO WAY..

2 : again losed 1500€ : Vip manager sayed : look hole week, you are 500 € lost from that week. And you get cashback.. But i can offer 50% match.. COME ON.

3: I losed 2.5k in 3 days: Vip manager sayed : look Big picture.. I can give 50 % match..

So why there is VIP department?

If only reward is 50% match.. That is BS, becouse you lose cashback and race points for that sticked bonus..

 

[refre]

I have yet to receive a VIP match bonus, but aren't these offered up front with cashback/race active?


Freddy