Video Poker - where do you guys get the patience to play???

darkpixie

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Or is there a strategy to playing. Like do 5 hands a day or something till you hit big? I have tried playing video poker but I find myself bored to death. Would love to hit a royal or something.
 

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The doubling feature is very thrilling, although I am often too reckless (greedy), sometimes one more doubling brings really a good balance boost. I would never play VP without doubling.

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Or is there a strategy to playing. Like do 5 hands a day or something till you hit big? I have tried playing video poker but I find myself bored to death. Would love to hit a royal or something.

Hi

VP can be as addictive as slots!! It is not completley random like slots so try out for 5 and move on doesn't work. Like slots you can get a cold game and hot ones but you have a level of control on the play you don't have with slots.

Try to have a bankroll that allows at least 100 coins eg for a 25c coin base have at least 25 for Jacks or better but more for wild games and bonus variants.

VP is definitely a strategy game and if your paytables are good (some casino's aren't full pay) can give you a better return for less money than slots- They also play longer (thats why the playthrough when rarely allowed a VP Bonus is so high)

Firstly choose your game and check the paytables at each casino =quite often the paytable will vary at RTG's although micro is prety standard - eg of Jacks or Better (the easiest game) look for 45 pay on Full house and 30 on flush.

The wild games add a different chance factor and the bonus games have some quite high pays for non royal hands however watch out for those ones where the bonus card eg 8's leads you away from the strategy for royals and be aware that these games usually compensate for the high bonus card payout in some other way. The pays on 2 3 4 of a kind, flushes and Full house are what keeps you in funds so you get a chance at the royals

Try to play where the best paytable- if you are into Jokers wild play RTG as Micro shorts you on the 4of a kind.

If you are new to VP then use the strategy tables to learn how to play and hold- google and get them from rep gambling advice sites. They are standard which will tell you what to hold and discard and have been tested over multiple times (Wizard of Odds if he is still about will give you pointers).

This is certainly a game you can "perfect" in free play mode at an RTG before risking your own money . (Not MIcro as it tends to throw out much more royals in free play than you would get in real play)

As a general rule try to play alll five coins whatever the denomination as in some games the Royal Flush will only be maxed on 5 coins.

My picks at the various software types

Jacks or better - micro, rtg
Ace and faces- Playtech, Micro
Jokers wild , RTG
Deuces wild - RTG and Micro
2 way royal at playtech can take take a while to get there but I have had a few royals due to this twist

I tend to stay away from bonus games other than Jackpot poker at RTG (which is really aces and faces anyway)

WHether you play mutlihand o r single play is personal choice- not that keen on multihand myself and you need a higher bankroll.

I never double up or gamble in any game (VP or slots) as I find it hard enough to win first times round. If you double up on VP you do alter the possible returns defined by the strategies- but once again its personal choice.

I have had a few big wins on slots over the years but any real consistent bankroll has been from VP- didn;t get a royal for about the first 6 months but have had more than few since then;),

Hope this helps
cheers colly
 

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The fun for me was in learning the strategies for the various VP games I like. (And the strategies vary with the paytables, even playing the same game). I practiced on WinPoker faithfully for hours on end. And then the fun comes in searching out the best paytables, and then trying out my skills in real play to see how well I do... I still play @ 99% accuracy on DDB and JoB.... (which needs to be improved again) ... but my skill level on other games has tapered off greatly with my lack of regular play. (R.I.P. Global Player :( )

Hopefully, I'll have time for more practice and study this winter, and get a chance to test my skills at the B&M. (I'm not playing online these days.)
 

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my favorite place to play VP is 3dice:thumbsup: I like the auto hold feature, and i tend to do very well playing the dueces wild games! I"m starting to like VP better than the slots, and with VP my bankroll tends to last longer:)
 

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If you use auto hold it does feel like a slot, sort of.

Do you VP players use auto hold or prefer not to?

Thanks

Hi
VP never feels like a slot to me (except when its cold:)) however using autohold is a matter of personal pref but a good idea unless you are confident about your strategy knowledge.

Be aware that the autohold is programmed on base strategy for game expectatio/return over the long term= which doesn't ALWAYS mean best chance on any single game for the royal. I do override this sometimes but willing to take that chance.

RTG does not have an autohold hold option on VP

Cheers
 

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Online video poker games and BJ are slot machines. Pay tables on video poker are no different then pay tables on slots. Your money management should be the same you use when playing a slot machine... Game play is not based on random 52 card draw.

Read this:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...ack-software-rtp-based-random.html#post375391

We have pursued every casino software being used and not one will come forward and declare one way or the other. Only Slotland with this statement.

Quote:
With card games the probability of hitting the jackpot combination is not natural, but controlled by this shared random generator in the same exact way that slot machines are won.
 

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4 of a kind, you have no proof of that (other than slotland).

I highly doubt the major software providors use slot machines behind the graphics of BJ/VP.
 

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Multi hand is more interesting than single hand.

Totally agree. Single hand bores the pants off me but 25 or 50 hand is far more fun. I guess it ties in with the slot mentality of trying to get that BIG hit, in this case a pat Royal Flush, straight flush or 4oak.

My favourite VP is Crypto's which is the closest to IGT's VP games. It's a minor thing, but the slight pause and sound effect that accompanies a big hit makes the game for me.
 

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One of my favourite Video Pokers is Pick 'Em Poker, or Pick a Pair poker (same game, different name). It is the one I play most at B&Ms, and the only one I play at RTG. I don't play poker often at RTG, just don't like the interface as well, but I will sometimes make a bonus free deposit to play it.

Autohold varies from software to software, and while I have autohold on, I don't always accept its choices. My one and only online Royal, I went against keeping a pair of Qs to draw on 3 to the Royal. I don't play for hours usually, and am hoping for a winning session, not lifetime stable stats.

I particularly like the 3Dice software for single hand VP, where you click the cards and not a little hold button.
 

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I particularly like the 3Dice software for single hand VP, where you click the cards and not a little hold button.

I think you can do that on most softwares actually, although can't remember RTG. Certainly can on Playtech and MG.
 

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4 of a kind, you have no proof of that (other than slotland).

I highly doubt the major software providers use slot machines behind the graphics of BJ/VP.

I have to disagree with you here. What is it you need that would convince you?

Almost all alleged online regulatory bodies have been contacted requesting this information, which by the way should be common knowledge for anyone that requests it. Sorry, absolutely not one single response.

Twelve active casino reps. (at this forum) representing most of the software platforms were privately requested to answer this question, and the only responses were from two reps. who pretty much made matters worse by ignoring the question while rambling on about the theories of random.

Bryan who also has visited several of the threads that involved this matter never once responded directly to this issue. Either his high level inside connections won’t tell him, or maybe silence is by far the better for business decision. How Bryan could ignore such a serious and important question several different times is beyond me. The answer would help all of the players apply the proper strategy when playing these games enhancing their experiences. Isn’t this what this whole site is allegedly based on?

In addition you have several professional online video poker players that have complained after playing millions and millions of hands over years and years of experiences, and know for fact that the sudden negative change over the last few years has nothing to do with random but could only be a result of lowered RTP’s with these games.

You would think that Casino Reps. Bryan, Regulators, Online Casino Owners, would come rushing forward after the first request for this information waving banners, and blowing horns, PROUDLY proving with fact that video poker and BJ are not slot machines. Sorry, absolutely not one single response. Unless of course you want to count the couple of blowing random theory smoke up our asses a response at all.

I seriously think that the people that are involved with and are making money off online casinos existence seriously think that the majority of players are all stupid fools.

This amount of silence from some many different people who are in the know is repulsive. If you have any doubts after all of this then maybe their thoughts of the knowledge of players is not flawed.

Wake up please; this silence should have broken your ear drums.
 

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Slotland got "busted" for using a Slot RNG for cards for their VP.

Now we know, so that's cool.

Some of the B&Ms use bingo machines to comply with state regulators. The ones I play here in Ontario I trust are not, because they say they are not and they are regulated.

Quite a bit of the house edge on VP comes from players not playing Max Bet or optimal strategy. My one and only B&M Royal was on one coin when I was down to $6 and still had time until my bus.

My one and only online Royal I kept 3 to the Royal when I had a pair of Queen, and I like that the MG autohint gave me my odds.

MG is a pretty big player in the online Casino world, and I do trust the software.

3Dice, I mostly trust because they can do the math. Just like the B&Ms I play at, they say it is a random deck. And even if I am wrong, I'll play VP from time to time there. To be honest, I've been pretty lucky given the amount I play in real.

I've played little VP at Bet365, the only Playtech I play at. I do like the half-gamble feature. I have no opinion about the nature of the VP.

RTG, well, I don't have enough statistical evidence to form an opinion, and I also don't have a "Help" button that tells me how the game performs.

And really, I've only played Pick Em there.
 
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I have to disagree with you here. What is it you need that would convince you?

I agree that silence from the operators is not good.

But you shoudln't make statements about software being rigged just because nobody has told you it isn't. You should seek proof that it is rigged.

With blackjack this is easy to do - a 95% return over 15,000 hands is pretty much proof that it's rigged (-5.3sd). You could do that in a day on MG autoplay.

VP would take a bit longer to prove since it's a higher variance game.
 

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Or is there a strategy to playing. Like do 5 hands a day or something till you hit big? I have tried playing video poker but I find myself bored to death. Would love to hit a royal or something.


I had started playing Single Hand Joker Poker for awhile now simply because it seems to give you a tad more playing time for your money than slots. I have hit a few royals (paying $200) but lately the game doesn't seem to be paying diddly squat. Rather have 3 extra minutes playing VP than loosing it all in 5 minutes on slots :D
 
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