US political crisis

[mack341]

Back to yesterday, on the supreme court having 9 justices, it could also possibly be linked to freemasonry as the number 33 has a particular significance to them. [afaik]

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Many Americans celebrate our founding father and all they did to help create our country. What few of them know is that many of the founding fathers were also freemasons. Some of the more notable founding fathers to also be masons are: George Washington, Ben Franklin lead the Pennsylvania chapter, Paul Revere lead a Massachusetts chapter, John Hancock, and Chief Justice John Marshall who greatly influenced the shaping of the Supreme Court. All together it is believed that about nine of the fifty-six men that signed the Declaration of Independence were masons, and about thirteen of the thirty-nine that signed the US Constitutions were also masons.

[edit actually I didn't spot this further link in the above paragraph, just noticed it now: 9 of the 56 and 13 of the 39]

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If Joe is looking to increase the justices to thirteen, that is also a number with possible masonic links:

"James B. Walker 32°—who has left us no other record of his thoughts or masonic career— wrote a description of the "masonic" symbols on the US dollar bill, highlighting what he claimed was the masonic significance of the number thirteen.
The squib, not really an article, follows:
Masonic Symbols In a $1 Bill
13 leaves in the olive branches
13 bars and stripes in the shield
13 feathers in the tail
13 arrows
13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon
13 stars in the green crest above
32 long feathers representing the 32° in Masonry
13 granite stones in the Pyramid with the Masonic "All-seeing Eye" completing it
13 letters in Annuit Coeptis, "God has prospered."

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Just thought it mildly interesting really, not intended to create or stir a big freemason debate

 

[pinnit2014]

Back to yesterday, on the supreme court having 9 justices, it could also possibly be linked to freemasonry as the number 33 has a particular significance to them.

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Many Americans celebrate our founding father and all they did to help create our country. What few of them know is that many of the founding fathers were also freemasons. Some of the more notable founding fathers to also be masons are: George Washington, Ben Franklin lead the Pennsylvania chapter, Paul Revere lead a Massachusetts chapter, John Hancock, and Chief Justice John Marshall who greatly influenced the shaping of the Supreme Court. All together it is believed that about nine of the fifty-six men that signed the Declaration of Independence were masons, and about thirteen of the thirty-nine that signed the US Constitutions were also masons.

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If Joe is looking to increase the justices to thirteen, that is also a number with possible masonic links:

"James B. Walker 32°—who has left us no other record of his thoughts or masonic career— wrote a description of the "masonic" symbols on the US dollar bill, highlighting what he claimed was the masonic significance of the number thirteen.
The squib, not really an article, follows:
Masonic Symbols In a $1 Bill
13 leaves in the olive branches
13 bars and stripes in the shield
13 feathers in the tail
13 arrows
13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon
13 stars in the green crest above
32 long feathers representing the 32° in Masonry
13 granite stones in the Pyramid with the Masonic "All-seeing Eye" completing it
13 letters in Annuit Coeptis, "God has prospered."

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Just thought it mildly interesting really, not intended to create or stir a big freemason debate

Stop trying to bring us out of the shadows

 

[Kroffe]

Looks like it would be harder to pick a number not associated with freemasons.

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13 not mentioned there tho.

 

[pinnit2014]

Good choice of club though if you’ve a lot of house projects; struggling to get someone in to do your roof or your floorboards? No problem with the Masons; nudge here, a wink there and hey presto, someone turns up on time

Was for that reason I contemplated joing the church as well; access to trades folk

Jesus was a close second

 

[ternur]

Back to yesterday, on the supreme court having 9 justices, it could also possibly be linked to freemasonry as the number 33 has a particular significance to them. [afaik]

You could've just asked me directly from me. [later edited because not sober]

And no. It's not that important to us.

 

[slotplayer]

They have never lost a case. I suspect that they will be backed up to the hilt financially. This will probably become hugely important

I watched it. Back when I was a liberal I could not stand Hannity. I don't mind him as much now since I ditched that leftist way of thinking.

I did learn something new though, I didn't know gerrymandering was coined after that Gerry guy.


The whole Georgia water issue CNN was pushing was propaganda. According to rounds Governor Kemp made on all the tv shows, the law was incorporated to avoid passing out water like this:

 

[geordiecolin]

Dont see him winning a defamation suit vs twitter.
No idea if its valid, using fake accounts sounds like exactly the kind of thing Project veritas would do imo.

We will see

Dont see him winning a defamation suit vs twitter.
No idea if its valid, using fake accounts sounds like exactly the kind of thing Project veritas would do imo.

I doubt that he would risk being utterly ruined both financially or in reputation by suing a giant like Twitter if he was guilty of using fake accounts.

Just a guess but I presume he must have been promised a lot of financial backing before undertaking his legal claims?

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[geordiecolin]

I watched it. Back when I was a liberal I could not stand Hannity. I don't mind him as much now since I ditched that leftist way of thinking.

I did learn something new though, I didn't know gerrymandering was coined after that Gerry guy.


The whole Georgia water issue CNN was pushing was propaganda. According to rounds Governor Kemp made on all the tv shows, the law was incorporated to avoid passing out water like this:



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I'm not American and didn't follow their politics much until about 18 months ago. Who is Gerry? When did you switch from being a Democrat?

 

[geordiecolin]

You could've just asked me directly from me. [later edited because not sober]

And no. It's not that important to us.

I hope that you choose your moments wisely before rolling up your left trouser leg and start hopping about on the other leg?

 

[dionysus]

eesh, speaking of US political crises...
can't even feign shock when I read one now

'it was the country's deadliest shooting since 10 people were killed March 22...'''

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not since the last shooting, naturally, just means more died this go than one less than a month ago...still been plenty of other shootings since Mar 22

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The US has reported at least 45 mass shootings in the last month​

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I dont own a gun nor lock my door. My biggest worry when I go out is a line at the beer store, and at night, a raccoon tipping the garbage bins

 

[Kroffe]

We will see

I doubt that he would risk being utterly ruined both financially or in reputation by suing a giant like Twitter if he was guilty of using fake accounts.

Just a guess but I presume he must have been promised a lot of financial backing before undertaking his legal claims?

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I wouldnt exactly say he has much of a reputation to talk about.
Maybe the form of entrapment-journalism he deals in is respected by by hardcore conservatives since its propaganda in their favor.


Least he could do is relase the videos without the massive editing, but then again i guess they are not made to be anything other than conservative propaganda, and are edited towards that goal.
Great fun seeing him with Hannity talking about how awful cnn is for their propaganda tho.
'Fighting for justice'

Is it expensive to lose a defamation case?
Only becomes expensive if there is some sort of counter-sue by twitter, no?

 

[Kroffe]

eesh, speaking of US political crises...
can't even feign shock when I read one now

'it was the country's deadliest shooting since 10 people were killed March 22...'''

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not since the last shooting, naturally, just means more died this go than one less than a month ago...still been plenty of other shootings since Mar 22

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I dont own a gun nor lock my door. My biggest worry when I go out is a line at the beer store, and at night, a raccoon tipping the garbage bins

Bet you wish you had a gun while you are standing there bent over picking up trash that the trash pandas spread out.

 

[geordiecolin]

eesh, speaking of US political crises...
can't even feign shock when I read one now

'it was the country's deadliest shooting since 10 people were killed March 22...'''

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not since the last shooting, naturally, just means more died this go than one less than a month ago...still been plenty of other shootings since Mar 22

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I dont own a gun nor lock my door. My biggest worry when I go out is a line at the beer store, and at night, a raccoon tipping the garbage bins

I fear that America is going to burn for for at least the next 6 months

 

[sufferinsilence]

If Twitter thinks there's a sniff of O'Keefe winning they'll settle out of court with a NDA attached to it. It's just about $$

 

[dionysus]

Bet you wish you had a gun while you are standing there bent over picking up trash that the trash pandas spread out.

lol, one reycle bin this morning, im here all #$%^#& trash $%#^ing pandas

 

[geordiecolin]

I wouldnt exactly say he has much of a reputation to talk about.
Maybe the form of entrapment-journalism he deals in is respected by by hardcore conservatives since its propaganda in their favor.


Least he could do is relase the videos without the massive editing, but then again i guess they are not made to be anything other than conservative propaganda, and are edited towards that goal.
Great fun seeing him with Hannity talking about how awful cnn is for their propaganda tho.
'Fighting for justice'

Is it expensive to lose a defamation case?
Only becomes expensive if there is some sort of counter-sue by twitter, no?

Propaganda or expose's?
I have no doubt that in court every second of his videos will be subject to scrutiny. He knows it and is obviously not worried. Besides. He was unlikely to have made a retraction in those edited out parts of all he had already said
Do you support freedom of speech?

 

[geordiecolin]

If Twitter thinks there's a sniff of O'Keefe winning they'll settle out of court with a NDA attached to it. It's just about $$

Are you serious?

 

[sufferinsilence]

Are you serious?

That's how it goes 99% of the time, would surprise me otherwise. The settlement could include Twitter having to active his account(s) again.

 

[Kroffe]

Propaganda or expose's?
I have no doubt that in court every second of his videos will be subject to scrutiny. He knows it and is obviously not worried.
Do you support freedom of speech?

Imo its closer to propaganda.
We never get to see what they do to get people to say what is said in the videos.
Imo the cnn video sounds exactly like what Stevie says, like a guy bragging, and since hes more or less a nobody that would make sense aswell.

The problem with that kind of 'journalism' is that the information you get is very often not good.
Its the same as with torture for example, people will say what they think you want to hear.
Instead of torture, in this case i the guy maybe thought he would get laid or something for what he said, but the issue is the same.
Hell, for all we know he was given a blowjob between each cut as a thank you for what he was saying, and thats the problem with these highly edited videos, and why i consider it more as a form of propaganda that serves to push an agenda rather than proper journalism.

Just relaese the un-edited footage and let people make their own mind up.

 

[geordiecolin]

That's how it goes 99% of the time, would surprise me otherwise. The settlement could include Twitter having to active his account(s) again.

Oh please. Project Varitas no longer needs their profile to be hightened. In the past few days alone they would have assured a massive interest and I'm guessing a huge financial backing too. I looked at their legal history briefly today and they have been going for a very long time.
He no longer needs a twitter account back even if he fights for it.
We can speculate but I will send you my bollix via fedex if he settles out of court.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Oh please. Project Varitas no longer needs their profile to be hightened. In the past few days alone they would have assured a massive interest and I'm guessing a huge financial backing too. I looked at their legal history briefly today and they have been going for a very long time.
He no longer needs a twitter account back even if he fights for it.
We can speculate but I will send you my bollix via fedex if he settles out of court.

Return to sender...

 

[geordiecolin]

Imo its closer to propaganda.
We never get to see what they do to get people to say what is said in the videos.
Imo the cnn video sounds exactly like what Stevie says, like a guy bragging, and since hes more or less a nobody that would make sense aswell.

The problem with that kind of 'journalism' is that the information you get is very often not good.
Its the same as with torture for example, people will say what they think you want to hear.
Instead of torture, in this case i the guy maybe thought he would get laid or something for what he said, but the issue is the same.
Hell, for all we know he was given a blowjob between each cut as a thank you for what he was saying, and thats the problem with these highly edited videos, and why i consider it more as a form of propaganda that serves to push an agenda rather than proper journalism.

Just relaese the un-edited footage and let people make their own mind up.

You missed the do you support freedom of speech which is at the heart of this?

 

[geordiecolin]

Return to sender...

I was gardening a little bit today and I had read that it was custom for farmers in early spring to dip their balls in the dirt to tell if it was warm enough to start planting. I missed the fact that I squatted over a red ants nest

 

[Kroffe]

You missed the do you support freedom of speech which is at the heart of this?

Of course i do.
Do you think losing a twitter account is losing your freedom of speech?

I just think the guys methods are not very good.
Not the first time hes gone after cnn either, atleast it was not to film himself having sex this time.

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[geordiecolin]

Oh please. Project Varitas no longer needs their profile to be hightened. In the past few days alone they would have assured a massive interest and I'm guessing a huge financial backing too. I looked at their legal history briefly today and they have been going for a very long time.
He no longer needs a twitter account back even if he fights for it.
We can speculate but I will send you my bollix via fedex if he settles out of court.

Just to add. There is much more than this specific case riding on these outcomes. It is also unwise to neglect the significance of his latest legal win against the paper.
There is not one chance of it being settled out of court

 

[geordiecolin]

Of course i do.
Do you think losing a twitter account is losing your freedom of speech?

I just think the guys methods are not very good.
Not the first time hes gone after cnn either, atleast it was not to film himself having sex this time.

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Do you know what the figures are on how many prominent Democrats and their supporters compared to those of Republicans that have been de-platformed on all formats of social media?

An easier one. How many prominent Democrats do you know that have been de-platformed across all or any social media?

 

[slotplayer]

I'm not American and didn't follow their politics much until about 18 months ago. Who is Gerry? When did you switch from being a Democrat?

Gerry is the founding father guy in that redistricting video from the History channel around 49 seconds in.


Around 2012 or early 2013 because there are threads here from 2011 when I was still a liberal democrat.

 

[Kroffe]

Do you know what the figures are on how many prominent Democrats and their supporters compared to those of Republicans are that have been de-platformed on all formats of social media?

An easier one. How many prominent Democrats do you know that have been de-platformed across all social media?

I know neither of those figures since i have zero interest in it.
Do you know them?

 

[geordiecolin]

I know neither of those figures since i have zero interest in it.
Do you know them?

If I started at zero for the amount of prominent Democrats de-platformed from across social media for their views would that be a good start?
Can you name one prominent Democrat removed from one platform?

 

[slotplayer]

Its ugly here, its eggshell nation, this is what progressivism does. Calling everyone a racist 24/7, canceling and boycotting anyone you disagree with, defunding and demoralizing the police, abolishing ice, the list goes on an on.

Not open for debate.

 

[Kroffe]

If I started at zero for the amount of prominent Democrats de-platformed from across social media for their views would that be a good start?
Can you name one prominent Democrat removed from one platform?

Like i said, zero interest, so i really dont keep track of that stuff.

If you want tips on good nature documentaries i can help, but as for whos been banned and where, you have to ask someone else. =)

 

[geordiecolin]

Like i said, zero interest, so i really dont keep track of that stuff.

If you want tips on good nature documentaries i can help, but as for whos been banned and where, you have to ask someone else. =)

And here was me thinking you where quite adept at using your favored search facilities.
I am sure someone will be able to provide us with countless names

 

[geordiecolin]

Its ugly here, its eggshell nation, this is what progressivism does. Calling everyone a racist 24/7, canceling and boycotting anyone you disagree with, defunding and demoralizing the police, abolishing ice, the list goes on an on.

Not open for debate.

I keep typing then deleting it. I really feel for fair minded Americans right now. But it will not be just America that will suffer this manipulation on their subjects during the next 6 months or more

 

[slotplayer]

Time for a little Tucker.

 

[Kroffe]

And here was me thinking you where quite adept at using your favored search facilities.
I am sure someone will be able to provide us with countless names

How good or bad i am at searching for things does not really come into play here, since even if i was a search-for-things blackbelt, i still wouldnt search for things i have zero interest in.

 

[geordiecolin]

Time for a little Tucker.

I had thoughts of being tiny there and being put to bed

 

[Kroffe]

Still going on about the great replacement conspiracy i hear.
Scrunchy face never fails to impress, or the guy who "Spends his life making the face of a thirteenth century farmer learning about bitcoin"

Even the Tuckers of the left are talking about Tucker, tho they dont seem as impressed with his not so subtle agenda.

 

[Kroffe]

Atleast sausage is politically neutral.
Everyone likes sausage.

 

[pinnit2014]

Return to sender...

I never got got mine back?

I presume they're sitting pride of place on your mantlepiece

 

[slotplayer]

Saw this segment this morning: See if you can spot the propaganda. edit: (I should say can you separate the facts from the propaganda)

Here is a couple right off the bat. Those statements are opinion/speculation not fact.

The first line from Poppy Harlow: "Could spell quite a bit of trouble", The reporter Paula Reid: "Could be of interest to the justice department"

Rita sees it.

 

[geordiecolin]

Rita sees it.

Not only was and still are about 95% of the media guilty of repeatedly running with stories that where made up and unverified as true but they where making up highly dangerous claims that could have disastrous consequences. The Russian and Iraqi bounty's claim is a case in point which was pushed by almost all of the main tv networks, newspapers,politicians- including leading republicans- and all of the fact checker sites.
There was never any foundation in it.
Meh,CNN,New York Times,Nancy and Snopes say its true so it must be.

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[slotplayer]

Not only was and still are about 95% of the media guilty of repeatedly running with stories that where made up and unverified as true but they where making up highly dangerous claims that could have disastrous consequences. The Russian and Iraqi bounty's claim is a case in point which was pushed by almost all of the main tv networks, newspapers,politicians- including leading republicans- and all of the fact checker sites.
There was never any foundation in it.
Meh,CNN,New York Times,Nancy and Snopes say its true so it must be.

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I know I was watching this video on it yesterday. I also heard that Trump calling the military losers and suckers was false but assumed it was true given Trumps nature. I know someone who voted for Biden based on that losers and suckers story.
Hannity is giving Trump the full hour, I think Monday, those sound bytes are going to be something.

 

[geordiecolin]

I know I was watching this video on it yesterday. I also heard that Trump calling the military losers and suckers was false but assumed it was true given Trumps nature. I know someone who voted for Biden based on that losers and suckers story.
Hannity is giving Trump the full hour, I think Monday, those sound bytes are going to be something.

I think that there is a big difference between opinion pieces and news reporting and that many people do not distinguish between the two. I never watch live streamed news these days because it annoyed me too much so I don't know if the likes of Fox are as guilty of crossing over the two?

 

[slotplayer]

I think that there is a big difference between opinion pieces and news reporting and that many people do not distinguish between the two. I never watch live streamed news these days because it annoyed me too much so I don't know if the likes of Fox are as guilty of crossing over the two?

I had BBC free here a year ago March for a month or two due to covid and the only show I could watch was hardtalk.

I don't think Fox crosses over as much as CNN. They claim they separate it.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I had BBC free here a year ago March for a month or two due to covid and the only show I could watch was hardtalk.

I don't think Fox crosses over as much as CNN. They claim they separate it.

CNN International has a little less oped/talking heads than the US version.

And you're right Fox doesn't cross over as much, everything there is opinion

 

[slotplayer]

CNN International has a little less oped/talking heads than the US version.

I watch Rosemary Church at 4am est, on CNN International if I'm up. Some good world coverage.

 

[geordiecolin]

After following the trial of Chauvin my prediction is that he will be found guilty after a lot of deliberation and I also think he is guilty. But there will be a retrial.
But his attorney did a bloody hard job all on his own.
And Chauvin reminded me of tape face

 

[Steviedoo]

After following the trial of Chauvin my prediction is that he will be found guilty after a lot of deliberation and I also think he is guilty. But there will be a retrial.
But his attorney did a bloody hard job all on his own.
And Chauvin reminded me of tape face

i think whether it’s a guilty verdict or not...there will be riots.

 

[geordiecolin]

i think whether it’s a guilty verdict or not...there will be riots.

Especially after Maxine Waters called for far worse than Trump suggested.
She will be given a free pass. Nancy thinks she said nothing wrong. Is there an agenda to ruin America here?

 

[slotplayer]

After following the trial of Chauvin my prediction is that he will be found guilty after a lot of deliberation and I also think he is guilty. But there will be a retrial.
But his attorney did a bloody hard job all on his own.
And Chauvin reminded me of tape face

The media just said they reached a verdict. Won't know until 4:30 est.