UK player done with regulated casinos. How to move to unregulated play?

[Guntis]

Yeah and a unique reference number that they provide.

Hah... i got it! But you're still paying fees when buying crypto using your transferred cash?

It's the same thing with the fees then.

So with the card option, the fees get applied right away. This is because you're directly purchasing a cryptocurrency.

And with the transfer option, the fees are applied when you make a purchase using the cash that you just transferred in.

Is that right?

 

[Guntis]

Ok but that would again require me to add a new Payee to my bank app and as I stated in the PM my card reader battery is dead lmao. I did though a hour ago order a new card reader. So I will then be able to just use Plaid. I currently use Pay By Bank with Pokerstars sometimes but when you have done like 3 or 5 deposits with it it then asks to add it as a new payee to be able to continue......

Luckily my card reader had a tiny amount of power left when I used it a few months ago but the screen was very faint and said low power error and turned of a few times but was able to get the code to add the payee for pokerstars in my account at least.

So once I get the new card reader in about 5-7 days I should be able to use plaid.

I take it the manual transfers would take a day or 2 to get processed and credited to my Kraken account then?

I just thought as well. If I am just depositing funds without actually buying any coins that would be zero fees with Plaid/PayPal? It is when you then use those funds you deposited to buy the bitcoin when you then pay the fees?

They also offer a PayPal option instead of bank transfers. But TBH i can see the point of using these. We won't escape the fees either way, lol

 

[DreamRJ]

They also offer a PayPal option instead of bank transfers. But TBH i can see the point of using these. We won't escape the fees either way, lol

Yeah I am now having second thoughts again about even bothering

 

[thr0b]

Tip: buy USDC from Coinbase, as the fees are low for this currency. Then convert to Doge on coinbase. Works out cheaper than buying Doge directly, and Doge is more widely accepted.

 

[Guntis]

Yeah I am now having second thoughts again about even bothering

Apparently, it is better to use Kraken Pro, see how much the fees are now; very minimal for a £100 purchase:

But here you first need to transfer some money in as there is no option to buy crypto straight with the card. PayPal is not good; there are fees.

To get the PRO version you need to install a new app. The login details are the same.

 

[satchnz]

It's in Kraken's TOS and likely coinbase too you can't use it for illegal gambling. Individuals' risk appetites may vary with these things I guess..

Yeah I wouldn’t do this either. Neither would I keep my crypto at an exchange.

I use Kraken, but I don’t buy crypto often. I’ve managed to build up a decent pile of various coins from gambling. I also used Exodus on my iPhone before I purchased a Ledger Nano once my balance grew somewhat.

I primarily use LTC for gambling due to its very low fees and speed of transfer. Its constant price fluctuations can be a bit of a bitch though. Also use ETH at times.

 

[satchnz]

Yeah I am now having second thoughts again about even bothering

I buy crypto from Kraken (using the manual bank transfer deposit method which funds my Kraken account in minutes), purchase Litecoin, transfer it to my local wallet, transfer it from my local wallet to the casino of my choice, win, and withdraw my winnings back to my local wallet and the total fees for all of this is in pence.

I’ve only really skimmed the posts above so I may have missed something.

 

[DreamRJ]

Ok I see, I will think about it more before I decide if I will still go down that rabbit hole

 

[satchnz]

Ok I see, I will think about it more before I decide if I will still go down that rabbit hole

It is daunting at first, but once you’ve set everything up and have made a couple of transactions, you’ll be a lot more comfortable.

Just always double check your numbers and crypto addresses. There are a few costly and unrecoverable mistakes you can make, but that’s the fault of carelessness.

 

[Guntis]

Here is a comparison between Coinbase, Kraken, and Kraken PRO fees.

This is a £1000 purchase of Litecoin. The regular Kraken sucks among these, but the PRO version looks great.

 

[Guntis]

Just learned a bit more from the following video about the fees:

 

[slot_zombie]

Here is a comparison between Coinbase, Kraken, and Kraken PRO fees.

This is a £1000 purchase of Litecoin. The regular Kraken sucks among these, but the PRO version looks great.

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You're comparing card transactions with bank transfers and internal dashboard trades. Apples and oranges but fair enough at least it is info.

 

[justdoit]

skrill
deposit

cashout

 

[justdoit]

we need to spam BC to add Paypal payment so we can deposit without fees

 

[justdoit]

Apparently, it is better to use Kraken Pro, see how much the fees are now; very minimal for a £100 purchase:

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But here you first need to transfer some money in as there is no option to buy crypto straight with the card. PayPal is not good; there are fees.

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To get the PRO version you need to install a new app. The login details are the same.

do you know why Kraken is holding 72hrs cant transfer or cashout?

 

[Guntis]

You're comparing card transactions with bank transfers and internal dashboard trades. Apples and oranges but fair enough at least it is info.

My goal was to find the cheapest way to get my hands on a crypto coin when i need it.

The first two (Coinbase, Kraken) are identical purchases using a straight bank card payment.

The 3rd one, Kraken PRO, also allows purchasing crypto, but they first need you to have some cash ready as i couldn't see options for instantly buying crypto using cards.

In all three cases, the fees are displayed upfront.

So for buying Litecoin worth £1000, Kraken PRO takes only £2.5 compared to £51.97 when using its regular version.

And with a regular Coinbase account, it would cost me £14.68.

 

[Guntis]

do you know why Kraken is holding 72hrs cant transfer or cashout?
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Yeah, i noticed that as well, and didn't like it.

 

[Guntis]

do you know why Kraken is holding 72hrs cant transfer or cashout?
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This is likely a security feature that applies to your very first transaction only. Otherwise, nobody would use this service. Imagine you urgently need your own funds but they tell you - no, wait 72 hours...

 

[DreamRJ]

Ok so I just created an account at Vave casino - Easy as hell all it asked me for was username and email and password .

But I have a question. I signed up using a Finland VPN server and I can translate the site fine in chrome browser but I just tested a slot and it fails to translate the slots to English? Anyone have any idea how I can get the slots to also translate to English?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Guntis]

Ok so I just created an account at Vave casino - Easy as hell all it asked me for was username and email and password .

But I have a question. I signed up using a Finland VPN server and I can translate the site fine in chrome browser but I just tested a slot and it fails to translate the slots to English? Anyone have any idea how I can get the slots to also translate to English?

Thanks in advance.

Don't translate it using Chrome, just pick the site language instead and it should do

 

[Ant1975]

Ok so I just created an account at Vave casino - Easy as hell all it asked me for was username and email and password .

But I have a question. I signed up using a Finland VPN server and I can translate the site fine in chrome browser but I just tested a slot and it fails to translate the slots to English? Anyone have any idea how I can get the slots to also translate to English?

Thanks in advance.

That would be a setting somewhere on the casino homepage. I've never seen slot language change due to the vpn used.

 

[DreamRJ]

Don't translate it using Chrome, just pick the site language instead and it should do

Yeah I already picked English in the site itself too but the slots still show Finland language lol

Ahhh never mind it works now

You know it is super nice to see the features back lol. Not deposited yet will probably try a few tomorrow, Vave did not have no limit or Elk so I have created an account in Betpanda now as well. They have Elk and No Limit.

A Elk slot I have played so much in regulated was Buffalo Torro and I have done like 100K spins on that slot and never triggered a super bonus. So if I can grow a balance I might even just buy 1 on it at betpanda lol

 

[Guntis]

Yeah I already picked English in the site itself too but the slots still show Finland language lol

Ahhh never mind it works now

You know it is super nice to see the features back lol. Not deposited yet will probably try a few tomorrow, Vave did not have no limit or Elk so I have created an account in Betpanda now as well. They have Elk and No Limit.

A Elk slot I have played so much in regulated was Buffalo Torro and I have done like 100K spins on that slot and never triggered a super bonus. So if I can grow a balance I might even just buy 1 on it at betpanda lol

Try Ireland, Denmark, or Norway for more providers

 

[DreamRJ]

Try Ireland, Denmark, or Norway for more providers

Oh on Vave? do they geo restrict certain providers based on VPN Server used? let me try.

Edit: Nope I tried many VPN servers, Ireland, Norway etc and Vave just does not have No Limit or Elk lol

 

[Guntis]

Oh on Vave? do they geo restrict certain providers based on VPN Server used? let me try.

I think in any crypto casino you'll have some providers unavailable. Some even have a filter to see which are available and which are not from the location you play. Switching VPN does the job. But remember to play from gambling-friendly locations. Check the casino's restricted countries to be sure. That's what i do usually to avoid potential troubles.

 

[DreamRJ]

I think just to make it easier for me I will just risk doing it straight from my Kraken and not send to Exodus. Worse case I can just make a coinbase or use another wallet if my Kraken gets banned lol.

It should also save me a little bit in fees in case I get charged twice for sending twice both ways.

I just can not wait to be able to do the bonus hunt on Elk that extra bet.

But one slot Vave and Betpanda does not have is Multi Wild 243. I play that slot a lot as much as Buffalo Torro lol. Such a shame I missed the quick spins on Merkur slots at videoslots the most. If anyone knows of any unregulated crypto casinos that have Multi Wild 243 and also WMS/Light Of Wonder slots please let me know

 

[DreamRJ]

I think in any crypto casino you'll have some providers unavailable. Some even have a filter to see which are available and which are not from the location you play. Switching VPN does the job. But remember to play from gambling-friendly locations. Check the casino's restricted countries to be sure. That's what i do usually to avoid potential troubles.

Ok yeah good tip, will do that, thank you

 

[satchnz]

Ok so I just created an account at Vave casino - Easy as hell all it asked me for was username and email and password .

But I have a question. I signed up using a Finland VPN server and I can translate the site fine in chrome browser but I just tested a slot and it fails to translate the slots to English? Anyone have any idea how I can get the slots to also translate to English?

Thanks in advance.

Tack /en to the end of the url.

Vave is a solid crypto casino (and I play there regularly) but be aware that they take time to approve all withdrawals. It’s not instant like Stake, BC.Game, or even Metawin.

Pity about Metawin though. I got confused initially with their sign in method and accidentally created two accounts. I contacted support who tried to correct things (promptly) but now I cannot log in at all, and their support won’t respond to any of my emails.

 

[slot_zombie]

For Vave, your landing page should be bookmarked as: vave.com/en

The "EN" at the end ensures that the site and the slots will be permanently in (non-translated) English for the duration of your visit.

edit: I see @satchnz beat me to it ?

 

[justdoit]

Oh on Vave? do they geo restrict certain providers based on VPN Server used? let me try.

Edit: Nope I tried many VPN servers, Ireland, Norway etc and Vave just does not have No Limit or Elk lol

I use north Macedonia ip no restrict

 

[justdoit]

Tack /en to the end of the url.

Vave is a solid crypto casino (and I play there regularly) but be aware that they take time to approve all withdrawals. It’s not instant like Stake, BC.Game, or even Metawin.

Pity about Metawin though. I got confused initially with their sign in method and accidentally created two accounts. I contacted support who tried to correct things (promptly) but now I cannot log in at all, and their support won’t respond to any of my emails.

did u try that 500 casino bandit played sometimes ? I thing they got some welcome bonus on 50x

 

[justdoit]

I think just to make it easier for me I will just risk doing it straight from my Kraken and not send to Exodus. Worse case I can just make a coinbase or use another wallet if my Kraken gets banned lol.

It should also save me a little bit in fees in case I get charged twice for sending twice both ways.

I just can not wait to be able to do the bonus hunt on Elk that extra bet.

But one slot Vave and Betpanda does not have is Multi Wild 243. I play that slot a lot as much as Buffalo Torro lol. Such a shame I missed the quick spins on Merkur slots at videoslots the most. If anyone knows of any unregulated crypto casinos that have Multi Wild 243 and also WMS/Light Of Wonder slots please let me know

welcome to hell ?

 

[Guntis]

Oh on Vave? do they geo restrict certain providers based on VPN Server used? let me try.

Edit: Nope I tried many VPN servers, Ireland, Norway etc and Vave just does not have No Limit or Elk lol

Nolimit should be there from those countries, but no ELK

 

[satchnz]

For Vave, your landing page should be bookmarked as: vave.com/en

The "EN" at the end ensures that the site and the slots will be permanently in (non-translated) English for the duration of your visit.

edit: I see @satchnz beat me to it ?

To be fair it was you who told me that ?

 

[satchnz]

did u try that 500 casino bandit played sometimes ? I thing they got some welcome bonus on 50x

No I haven’t yet. I’ve been meaning to check it out.

 

[satchnz]

did u try that 500 casino bandit played sometimes ? I thing they got some welcome bonus on 50x

Here’s an interesting term on the welcome bonus at the 500 casino:

• The wager requirement decreases based on the RTP of the games you're playing. For example, playing a game with 95% RTP or lower would decrease the wager requirement at a 1:1 ratio, while playing a game with 99.5% RTP would decrease the wager requirement at a 1:10 ratio.

It’s a 40x wager with a max cash out of 10x deposit amount.

 

[DreamRJ]

Anyone know if the welcome bonuses at Vave or Betpanda is no sticky?

 

[justdoit]

Anyone know if the welcome bonuses at Vave or Betpanda is no sticky?

Vave
Both the deposit match and free spins will also require a 40x playthrough to be completed before any funds are released.

Betpanda

The playthrough requirements are the only downside to this promo. Betpanda imposes a 50x turnover on the bonus funds, which is on the higher side for a welcome package. In addition, this offer is structured as a parachute bonus, which means only the bonus funds contribute to the wagering requirements — basically, you’ll have to go through your entire deposit before you can start clearing the requirements.

The good news is that you’ll have 30 days to meet these conditions. Plus, there are no Betpanda bonus codes or game restrictions to worry about

 

[satchnz]

did u try that 500 casino bandit played sometimes ? I thing they got some welcome bonus on 50x

Gave it a go last night. Sign up was as easy as it was with BC Game. Nice site, with max RTP on offer on all the games I played. My $60 disappeared reasonably quickly, but that's par for the course these days. No cash out experience yet.

Regarding BetPanda, note that not all of their RTPs are at max. Hacksaws are gimped along with Blueprint. I didn't look any further as I decided it wasn't a casino for me.

 

[DreamRJ]

Ok so I need help please?

I just did a deposit into my Kraken and bought some Litecoin but I got no idea how to transfer it to the casino? I read there is a 72 hour cooldown for first purchase?

So can you please explain to me which part of the Kraken I need to goto to send it to a casino?

Do I click on transfer crypto and then click either deposit or withdraw option? I added the Vave Litecoin address into the withdraw section but when I type an amount in, it just keeps saying invalid?

Is there another method?

Thanks in advance.

 

[slot_zombie]

Tack /en to the end of the url.

Vave is a solid crypto casino (and I play there regularly) but be aware that they take time to approve all withdrawals. It’s not instant like Stake, BC.Game, or even Metawin.

Pity about Metawin though. I got confused initially with their sign in method and accidentally created two accounts. I contacted support who tried to correct things (promptly) but now I cannot log in at all, and their support won’t respond to any of my emails.

I tried out Metawin last night and it seems like a solid place. Nice and anonymous, fast deposit and withdraw. Good spot. I hope you get your duplicate account issue sorted.

The only drawback I can see is that the game.selection is small compared to other crypto casinos. At the.moment.

 

[DreamRJ]

No one can help me?

 

[slot_zombie]

No one can help me?

Sorry I've never done it that way, I always w/d to Exodus first.

 

[DreamRJ]

Sorry I've never done it that way, I always w/d to Exodus first.

All I want to know is do I use the withdraw option in the transfer tab in Kraken? And also why do I have to wait 72 hours?

 

[Guntis]

I've never done it using Kraken, but i see that for me it's available if i:

1 - Click on 3 dots at the top right
2 - Click 'withdraw crypto to an external wallet'

If there is no external wallet address; just add one.

Yeah, that 72h is ridiculous.

 

[DreamRJ]

I've never done it using Kraken, but i see that for me it's available if i:

1 - Click on 3 dots at the top right
2 - Click 'withdraw crypto to an external wallet'

If there is no external wallet address; just add one.

Yeah, that 72h is ridiculous.

Ok so I just have to wait then?

So 3 days I guess the litecoin will go down in value and I lose money lmao

 

[Guntis]

Ok so I just have to wait then?

So 3 days I guess the litecoin will go down in value and I lose money lmao

No, i don't think that you have to wait for your transfer to complete 72h. It should take a few minutes to reach the casino using your Litecoin.

From what i understand these 72h are related to purchases when you top-up Kraken and buy some crypto.

So essentially after purchasing some crypto, they don't let you send it right away.

But i might be wrong, see what SlotZombie says, he is an expert in discovering and trying different things. ?

 

[satchnz]

Ok so I just have to wait then?

So 3 days I guess the litecoin will go down in value and I lose money lmao

Welcome to one of the absolute joys of gambling with crypto!

 

[satchnz]

No, i don't think that you have to wait for your transfer to complete 72h. It should take a few minutes to reach the casino using your Litecoin.

From what i understand these 72h are related to purchases when you top-up Kraken and buy some crypto.

So essentially after purchasing some crypto, they don't let you send it right away.

But i might be wrong, see what SlotZombie says, he is an expert in discovering and trying different things. ?

I use Kraken and can withdraw my crypto to my offline wallet as soon as I purchase it…

 

[satchnz]

Ok so I need help please?

I just did a deposit into my Kraken and bought some Litecoin but I got no idea how to transfer it to the casino? I read there is a 72 hour cooldown for first purchase?

So can you please explain to me which part of the Kraken I need to goto to send it to a casino?

Do I click on transfer crypto and then click either deposit or withdraw option? I added the Vave Litecoin address into the withdraw section but when I type an amount in, it just keeps saying invalid?

Is there another method?

Thanks in advance.

I would have posted a couple of screenshots on this but I don’t currently have any crypto sitting with Kraken (I don’t believe it is advisable to keep your crypto on a public exchange). But on the Portfolio tab of Kraken (Pro), you should see your crypto balances and Deposit and Withdraw buttons next to it. Click Withdraw and enter your casino’s deposit address into the crypto address field, and the amount you want to transfer there in the amount field.

What is the exact error message you have been receiving?