If you are in a rush or are not interested in the calculations but just the conclusions then just read the
bolded parts.
Win =486,000 coins =£/$ 4,860 win off 0.60 bet
If it's genuine that is over 8,100 times bet!:notworthy
(Certainly the figure is correct but I am very suspicious that he managed the screenshot as the last 1c was paid out - bang on 486,000.
A couple of Million spins on MG slots and I never got anywhere near that so don't expect to see it in a Casino near you.
Let's do some analysis and assume it is genuine though.
It makes sense that some freak payouts every billion spins or so are possible on the new MG slots because they are unnaturally streaky.
For me there is no way the losing streaks they throw out are possible on anything but weighted slots.
The RTP must be made up from these freak wins.
To put it into perspective that win alone would make up the entire RTP for nearly 8,500 spins, at same stake, if every other spin paid zero!
-Or it would take over 150,000 spins from that point at 95% for the slot to break even
We can calculate how much of the RTP that win would account for 1 million and 100,000 spins.
(Figures rounded for legibility)
1 million spins @ .60 = 600,000 stake @ 95% = 570,000 RTP /5,000 = 0.9%
Or in pain English. On average expect nearly 1% below RTP of 95% up to a million spins
100,000 spins @ .60= 60,000 stake @ 95% =57,000 RTP/5000 =9%
Or in pain English. On average expect nearly 9% below RTP of 95% up to 100,000 spins.
You can easily add another 2% onto those figures at least when you incorporate other anomalously high wins that have a less than 1 in 100,000 expectation.
It seems my
consistently below or around 85% RTP should be about expected and anything above in less than 100,000 spins is probably an anomaly.
It also shows that
this slot is high variance and not low variance.
I like Thunderstruck2 as a design but wont play it any more - like all the other new MG slots I soon get the sense that my return was decided before I pressed the spin button, win or lose.
Hit 20x bet win then either hit another similar win straight away or play 25 dead spins.Hit a similar win soon after play 50 dead spins etc.
All this on 247 paylines but how often should we expect to hit?
Is the answer far less than we might expect at 243 lines?
Here is a very basic and simplistic calculation.
The slot has 14 symbols 1 of which is wild.
Lets just put an equal amount of 3 of each symbols on each reel to make 42 symbol long reels.
Total 130,691,232 combos with 14*3 symbols and 5 reels
Now a specific 3 or more of a kind on the first 3 reels (including wild would have the following probability)
12/42*12/42*12/42*42/42*42/42 =3,048,192,/130,691,232= 1/42.875
or about once 1 in 43 spins.
That calculation is for each symbol though so to get the probability of any three of a kind or more would to divide by 14.
So about once every 3 spins a hit of 3 of a kind or better should occur in this example.
Something to consider is it would be slightly higher because scatter can not have wild substitute though this is somewhat offset by a scatter win not having to appear sequentially.
Also we do not know the length of the reel strips but given that the wild seems to appear around every 14 spins this wont be far wrong.
Additionally the symbols are not evenly distributed across the reels but again this is offset by some win combinations being far more likely than our 1 in 42 while others are far less likely.
Given this calculation and taking into account margins of error
it seems very unlikely that TS2 could very commonly throw out series of 10 blank spins much less 20 blank spins or more that it often throws out without it being a weighted slot.
Just thought I would throw out the Maths.
returned my bet ONLY
, anyways getting back to that slot i did another 250 spins this evening got 2 bonus rounds for 12.60 @ 1.50 stake & the other was £38 quid for £3 pound stake & 1 x wild storm which paid £65 quid .so far over 1000 spins net profit =0 but i shall try it again with another 250 spins
