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The Meaning of Random

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by hobobiker, May 31, 2007.

    May 31, 2007
  1. hobobiker

    hobobiker Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    I am now going to type a line of random letters and numbers and letters etc. here goes:
    jvczse6y7i89y7tuughkvgchfxhcyf.hlikhi9
    ujubghkvfxhhkvxcza3R2JKJBKGTFYRJSV\hrrxfcthgv,khjbgjk.bnl/ki


    i did that with my eyes closed and its completly random.

    I am now going to repeat this weeks "completly random" results of playing slots at 32Red or Migrogaming or whatever their called. The W = a win, and the L = a loss
    Here goes:
    L L L L L L L L L L L L L W L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L W W L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L W L L L L L L L L W L L L L L L L L W L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L LL L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L W W L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L W L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L W L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L L .

    And that is (amazing i know) completly random results based upon the position of Jupiter in the month of May , multiplied by the average yearly rainfall (in mm ) in Miguel's back yard in Bolivia.

    Fuckin amazing isnt it.

    and no i cant change gear with my foot, which is bollocks .....just like the randomness of MG or 32 slots..........bollocks.

    time for JD .
     
  2. May 31, 2007
  3. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

    Occupation:
    student of life
    Location:
    canada
    is W any win at all, or a larger than 1x bet win? and i'm sure a couple of those W's were decent-size hits.
     
  4. May 31, 2007
  5. hobobiker

    hobobiker Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    tryin to get a the credit total above the initial deposit amount in the last 2 weeks has been ...................er like pissin in the wind comes to mind ....
    or platting fog is another.
     
  6. May 31, 2007
  7. everyday

    everyday Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    British Columbia, Canada
    Completely agree

    I'm with you Hobo..the last couple of weeks at any MG casino has been poor, at least for both of us. Even received a couple of MG casino birthday gifts today and promptly spun them away faster than I could say Thank You. Very disappointing after having given so much for 2 weeks and being so excited today about possibly getting something back. No such luck. I hope this trend ends soon.
     
  8. May 31, 2007
  9. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Have you tried any strategies? A good one that comes to mind is: put in a dollar, win a car. Put in another dollar, win another car :)

    Ahh, it sucks to go on a losing streak, I know, we've all been there. I'm assuming you are playing slots? You might want to try mixing up your bet size now and then. If you 'autoplay' and figure you won't hit for another ten spins, eff-em, turn off autoplay, wait 60 seconds and bet 10x what you have been; same as a losing grind but a fat lot better potential win.

    If you figure you'll be out 100 credits in the next hour at your regular play, wtf, bet 25 on one, then 2, then 10, then 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50, whatever, go listen to the news or piss off the balcony in between spins to make it last an hour.

    Of course this is assuming you aren't able to hit a feature low-rolling to get you over your initial deposit. If you do that, either quit or keep that profit amount in mind, keep low-rolling, then at a whim increase your bet size to a portion or all of your 'profit' wtf? It's a gamble. It could hit on one of the 10/279 spins just like your LLLLWLLL (I measured, didn't count lol)

    If you have 'selective sight' take your usual bet size and spread it over 3 lines instead of 15 or whatever you've been playing, then move it around to to9, 11,7,5, whatever. (it can suck if you hit a free spin feature, but scatters are no problem and if you ignore the lines you don't play it shouldn't piss you off too much when they hit.

    And finally, know the variance of the machine you are playing You must register/login in order to see the link. the 'strategies' I mentioned are best for high risk slots to make a great return, or lose your wad. If you want your play to go on and on, choose a low risk slot.

    Now, of course if you aren't playing slots I just wasted my typing breath, dint I:)

    Good luck:thumbsup:
     
  10. May 31, 2007
  11. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    student of life
    Location:
    canada
    i was going to say buy in for 200 and lowroll 20 cents aiming for one or two random jackpots while you leave it spinning overnight or while at work, just like our pal mike031.:thumbsup:
     
  12. May 31, 2007
  13. mikepipe

    mikepipe Dormant account

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    I ll do exactly that NOW. and if i win, the next pints are on me!
     
  14. May 31, 2007
  15. hobobiker

    hobobiker Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    L L L L L L L L L L L L 32red

    LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    I am returning to my previous pastime of getting up every afternoon, walking outside ...and putting a couple of hundred quid down the storm drain outside my driveway....................its much more entertaining and less disheartning and takes longer than playing slots and losing that amount at 32red. quoting overall figures of 99.9%returns on slots etc etc is all good an well but when your overall return % is based upon 1 or 2 large wins over a 6 month period and the rest of the time its crap, then it just gets fucking tedious and boring and definatly does not have a random feel about it .....boring boring boring
    boring..................boring and crap...
     
  16. May 31, 2007
  17. hobobiker

    hobobiker Dormant account

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    retired
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    boring

    bored...bored.....bored.....bored..........
     
  18. May 31, 2007
  19. hobobiker

    hobobiker Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    I used to have a life before i started playing at 32red ....
     
  20. May 31, 2007
  21. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    Walk away or better still run then if you still feel the urge come back but in September when there will properly regulated Casinos to chose from.
    You will still have losing streaks but at least you can be pretty certain you are not being cheated.
    My personal experience of MG lately has been exactly the same as yours but we still have choice as to whether to play or not, well that's how the theory goes.
    I know you are feeling angry at the moment and gambling in that state is no fun which is what it should be all about.
    You end up in a downward spiral of despair and anger where the only outcome is a painful crash to Earth, unless you deploy the parachute now.
    Safe landings
    :thumbsup:
     
  22. May 31, 2007
  23. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    I absolutely agree that MG has been brutal lately, at least to me. I had one winning session a couple of weeks ago, and that was the first one in ages, and there have been MANY losing ones since. Never even getting over your original deposit amount can be very disheartening. But just to clarify, it's not 32Red per se, it is Microgaming casinos period....at least in my experience.

    Giving it a break for a bit sounds like a smashing idea.
     
  24. May 31, 2007
  25. hobobiker

    hobobiker Dormant account

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    retired
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    Manchester UK
    bloody hell ....steady on Rusty, im not angry mate, just getting bored with the MG games at 32 .... its just they get really boring when you can almost predict the win lose pattern on them.... and its all seems to be to get your average to an expected 95-96% ....which is no good if you have a big win ..because it means unlike a real casino where you can move onto another machine or table .. to start again not knowing the outcome ...with 32 and you know after a big win then you aint gettin squat out of them until they balance your overall average .......so when you complain they come out with the same old line of " years but if you look at your overall average % its blah blah 96%.........over the last 15 years" it just aint random and its bloody boring..... but i aint angry ....just bored with it really.

    anyway got to get spruced up in a bit and change me undies ....cos i got chatting to the nice divorced lady from across the road the other day and she's a reflexoliogist and aromatheroliigst or somethin trendy like that ..and she's comin round to have a drink and "massage my leg" ......but i know what she wants really .....a bit of rough hairy biker thats wot .....an believe me im rough mate. ......better clean the house and get the jos sticks out ....ready to get me third leg massaged.

    see ya
     
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  26. May 31, 2007
  27. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    IT
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    Manchester UK
    :lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup:

    If ever there was case of Too much information!

    Enjoy the massage ;)
     
  28. May 31, 2007
  29. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    student of life
    Location:
    canada
    my suggestion given what you say is to lowroll when you know it's going to be a losing spin/hand, and bet the farm when a winner is coming up next.
     
  30. Jun 1, 2007
  31. wanda5

    wanda5 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    mom
    Location:
    lala land
    I like the way you asked that question showing the Ws & Ls...I have always wondered that SAME thing about the whole "random" thing but could never find a way to make anyone understand my question so it was never answered.

    If "randomly" you can LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL then why is there never a WWWWWWWWWWWWWW? and why do you get more Ls than Ws anyway if it IS in fact random?

    Random to me would be more like red and black on roulette....right???

    As soon as I make my deposit I get this sick feeling of "its all down hill from here but which one is going to kill me the SLOWEST":p. I dont really expect to win BIG....EVER anymore. BUT my husband and I can sit with some wine & play together and have fun without having to leave the house. We both LOVE slots. My thing is that I would like to believe that there IS still a chance to win BIG like we used to but even more JUST to get to have fun without having to spend too much just on a constant losing streak.

    My husband the other day said "remember when we could play all weekend on just a couple $100. And I said "remember when we could play games like the Wheel of Wealth and actually hit the spins??" AH the good old days. It just seems like the games are way meaner than they have to be. I mean to go on a 20 spin losing streak and then finally win and its not even your bet back...it does not have to be THAT mean:mad:. AND the thing that is killing us lately is when you play a bonus game and after losing almost all of your ass... Heavens gates open up and you hear the angels sing "you got the spins" :eek:
    AAAAHHHHHHHHHH....and then what happens? You win $6 during the bonus round after losing $60. And you are back at the bank again.

    But of course we will keep playing & hoping...I guess we are into pain?:axeman:

    I think it would sit a little better with all of us if we KNEW we were not all getting screwed. BUT there is just no real way of knowing. I was excited to hear about Ecogra until one day at Roadhouse I looked and saw where they gave the great percetages on Roadhouses cards & table games...:what: Roadhouse only has slots! There are NO card or table games.

    For years I saw people so excited about 32Red & how fair they have been. I was always envious because I could not play there so I am sad to see them on anyones chitlist.

    I guess I need to have a good experience somewhere so I can come back here and brag instead of cryin all the time :oops:
     
  32. Jun 1, 2007
  33. reda

    reda Senior Member PABinit

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    HOUSTON
    i agree here also. i have been on a loosing streak for so long. over a year now. i play mostly slots. it eats me alive. i play rtg. its a 100.00 a couple times a week. im broke in a few hrs time. and im low rolling. only 20 cents a spin. it does not matter when or what day i play its always the same. i feel like quitting also. but i like it as a pastime. just tired of loosing.
     
  34. Jun 1, 2007
  35. hobobiker

    hobobiker Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    MMMM
    yes i think we are getting screwed and do know what ........i dont mind a bit of screwing.....and i dont mind paying to get a screwing......but i like it to last a bit longer for a couple of hundred quid.. i like my screwing to last ...


    talking of which .!!!!! played it cool tonight .....you know made sure i didnt have that desperate stare in my eyes ..... didnt start drooling or anythin.....got a goodnight kiss ....................lookin good.

    gonna hit the bottle now..........might play for an hour first though.
     
  36. Jun 1, 2007
  37. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

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    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    Atta boy Hobo!! Us women like to think of you men as a challenge. If we KNOW we can have you, we don't want you. We wanna work for it a bit, lol. Make her think you could care less if you ever see her again or not. Play hard to get and I guarantee she's yours!! :D
     
  38. Jun 1, 2007
  39. everyday

    everyday Experienced Member

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    Retired
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    British Columbia, Canada
    oooooooo Pina you're giving away our secrets lol..not that it matters much to this old broad..been there done that :)
     

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