The randomness of slots and programming to kill

tataru

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Hi,
there's an expression among slot programmers: Programming To Kill (emphatic for emptying your pockets completely)

So, the proponents of pure randomness, I accuse you of being somewhat stupid.
Don't believe every fairy tale that's being told, especially if there's big money involved!

Basically what is being done is you take a RNG-algorithm which behaves in a way
that creates wins at the beginning of the session , quite extremely and when the players
up the bets the algorithm "switches" to losing streak, BIG TIME.

I'm not saying that every slot operates that way, that would be completely false.
BUT I do know that SOME slots that are online DO operate like that.

I think this is a fair warning, without calling names even if that should be done.

Then again, slots never were a fair game.:eek:
 

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As has been said..ad nauseum...reputable providers have zero reason to not have fair and random games. They already have a built in edge and in 2017 someone would have whistle blown by now.
Are there dodgy operators? Of course. The big guns? Why bother.
Anywhere there's literally dozens of threads about this so little point is starting a new one when there's plenty to debate in.
 

trancemonkey

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Hi,
there's an expression among slot programmers: Programming To Kill (emphatic for emptying your pockets completely)

So, the proponents of pure randomness, I accuse you of being somewhat stupid.
Don't believe every fairy tale that's being told, especially if there's big money involved!

Basically what is being done is you take a RNG-algorithm which behaves in a way
that creates wins at the beginning of the session , quite extremely and when the players
up the bets the algorithm "switches" to losing streak, BIG TIME.

I'm not saying that every slot operates that way, that would be completely false.
BUT I do know that SOME slots that are online DO operate like that.

I think this is a fair warning, without calling names even if that should be done.

Then again, slots never were a fair game.:eek:

Programming to kill? No there isn't... Where do you get this rubbish?

There is no algorithm to do what you say...

If you know of a slot that's doing it then say one... Give us a name. Without that what you are saying is pure rubbish...

EDIT - Damn I said I wouldn't get involved in rubbish like this again!
 

tataru

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Programming to kill? No there isn't... Where do you get this rubbish?

There is no algorithm to do what you say...

If you know of a slot that's doing it then say one... Give us a name. Without that what you are saying is pure rubbish...

Then why are you getting so angry?:rolleyes:
 

tataru

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Ahh of course.. denial = anger = guilt. How silly of me. I apologise for asking for proof. That must also make me guilty... :)

Thanks for being honest. :cool:

I wonder though, how when your giving talks, you circumscribe "making small pockets even lighter"? :rolleyes:
 

goatwack

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I think we should merge every 'random/rigged' thread together and see what happens

.....when the site crashes :eek:
 

trancemonkey

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Thanks for being honest. :cool:

I wonder though, how when your giving talks, you circumscribe "making small pockets even lighter"? :rolleyes:

Maybe you could also be honest and offer the proof of these games that are rigged though... Given that so many people disbelieve me, the proof you have would make me look stupid and a liar... Something which I'm sure some people on here would love to see..

Of course if you are making these claims without any proof then arguably I'm not the one looking stupid ;)
 

trancemonkey

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I think we should merge every 'random/rigged' thread together and see what happens

.....when the site crashes :eek:

You have my permission to call me all the names under the sun when I comment on it too.. having already lost the will to live with them ;)
 

tataru

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I didn't say that they're not random.

As I see it, it's not rigged vs. random. but randomly rigged.:D:D:D
So you will never be the wiser because it's very cleverly rigged.

Nobody can deny that sometimes some slots just to don't feel random.
I know all about how the human mind tends to misjudge the length
of lucky/unlucky streaks but some things just seem completely wrong.
 

trancemonkey

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I didn't say that they're not random.

As I see it, it's not rigged vs. random. but randomly rigged.:D:D:D

Nobody can deny that sometimes some slots just to don't feel random.
I know all about how the human mind tends to misjudge the length
of lucky/unlucky streaks but some things just seem completely wrong.

Come on... Don't back track now. You said you know of games that are, in your new words, "randomly rigged" - so all I ask is for you to name one. That is all :)
 

goatwack

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You have my permission to call me all the names under the sun when I comment on it too.. having already lost the will to live with them ;)

I already have, I don't think a single expletive has been wasted yet :eek:

Although in fairness I usually mutter it under my breath. Think of yourself as the literal embodiment of all my bad slot sessions :laugh:

(only joking) :thumbsup:
 

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Another weekend, another "rigged" thread. Things just wouldn't be the same here at CM without a fresh one to enjoy over the weekend.

One I will no longer be commenting in after this post either :thumbsup:

(unless of course there's a chance of some half witted sarcasm :p)
 

goatwack

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Come on... Don't back track now. You said you know of games that are, in your new words, "randomly rigged" - so all I ask is for you to name one. That is all :)

Oi, wait. What? Don't combine my quote out of context you git!
 

goatwack

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Another weekend, another "rigged" thread. Things just wouldn't be the same here at CM without a fresh one to enjoy over the weekend.

One I will no longer be commenting in after this post either :thumbsup:

(unless of course there's a chance of some half witted sarcasm :p)

So, Jon, do you think slots are rigged?
 
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