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The randomness of slots and programming to kill

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by tataru, Aug 5, 2017.

    Aug 5, 2017
  1. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    NOT playing slots
    Location:
    germany
    Hi,
    there's an expression among slot programmers: Programming To Kill (emphatic for emptying your pockets completely)

    So, the proponents of pure randomness, I accuse you of being somewhat stupid.
    Don't believe every fairy tale that's being told, especially if there's big money involved!

    Basically what is being done is you take a RNG-algorithm which behaves in a way
    that creates wins at the beginning of the session , quite extremely and when the players
    up the bets the algorithm "switches" to losing streak, BIG TIME.

    I'm not saying that every slot operates that way, that would be completely false.
    BUT I do know that SOME slots that are online DO operate like that.

    I think this is a fair warning, without calling names even if that should be done.

    Then again, slots never were a fair game.:eek:
     
  2. Aug 5, 2017
  3. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    As has been said..ad nauseum...reputable providers have zero reason to not have fair and random games. They already have a built in edge and in 2017 someone would have whistle blown by now.
    Are there dodgy operators? Of course. The big guns? Why bother.
    Anywhere there's literally dozens of threads about this so little point is starting a new one when there's plenty to debate in.
     
  4. Aug 5, 2017
  5. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  6. Aug 5, 2017
  7. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    NOT playing slots
    Location:
    germany
    what do you mean by that? your angry?
     
  8. Aug 5, 2017
  9. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Programming to kill? No there isn't... Where do you get this rubbish?

    There is no algorithm to do what you say...

    If you know of a slot that's doing it then say one... Give us a name. Without that what you are saying is pure rubbish...

    EDIT - Damn I said I wouldn't get involved in rubbish like this again!
     
  10. Aug 5, 2017
  11. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    That's just his c** face
    ...but we try not to point it out in mixed company
     
  12. Aug 5, 2017
  13. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    NOT playing slots
    Location:
    germany
    Then why are you getting so angry?:rolleyes:
     
  14. Aug 5, 2017
  15. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Ahh of course.. denial = anger = guilt. How silly of me. I apologise for asking for proof. That must also make me guilty... :)
     
  16. Aug 5, 2017
  17. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    NOT playing slots
    Location:
    germany
    Thanks for being honest. :cool:

    I wonder though, how when your giving talks, you circumscribe "making small pockets even lighter"? :rolleyes:
     
  18. Aug 5, 2017
  19. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    I think we should merge every 'random/rigged' thread together and see what happens

    .....when the site crashes :eek:
     
  20. Aug 5, 2017
  21. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Maybe you could also be honest and offer the proof of these games that are rigged though... Given that so many people disbelieve me, the proof you have would make me look stupid and a liar... Something which I'm sure some people on here would love to see..

    Of course if you are making these claims without any proof then arguably I'm not the one looking stupid ;)
     
  22. Aug 5, 2017
  23. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    Location:
    United Kingdom
    You have my permission to call me all the names under the sun when I comment on it too.. having already lost the will to live with them ;)
     
  24. Aug 5, 2017
  25. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    NOT playing slots
    Location:
    germany
    I didn't say that they're not random.

    As I see it, it's not rigged vs. random. but randomly rigged.:D:D:D
    So you will never be the wiser because it's very cleverly rigged.

    Nobody can deny that sometimes some slots just to don't feel random.
    I know all about how the human mind tends to misjudge the length
    of lucky/unlucky streaks but some things just seem completely wrong.
     
  26. Aug 5, 2017
  27. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Come on... Don't back track now. You said you know of games that are, in your new words, "randomly rigged" - so all I ask is for you to name one. That is all :)
     
  28. Aug 5, 2017
  29. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    I already have, I don't think a single expletive has been wasted yet :eek:

    Although in fairness I usually mutter it under my breath. Think of yourself as the literal embodiment of all my bad slot sessions :laugh:

    (only joking) :thumbsup:
     
  30. Aug 5, 2017
  31. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Another weekend, another "rigged" thread. Things just wouldn't be the same here at CM without a fresh one to enjoy over the weekend.

    One I will no longer be commenting in after this post either :thumbsup:

    (unless of course there's a chance of some half witted sarcasm :p)
     
  32. Aug 5, 2017
  33. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    Location:
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    Oi, wait. What? Don't combine my quote out of context you git!
     
  34. Aug 5, 2017
  35. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    So, Jon, do you think slots are rigged?
     
  36. Aug 5, 2017
  37. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Yeah I don't know how that happened... I only pressed to reply to tatanu! Sorry!
     
  38. Aug 5, 2017
  39. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Only if I hit 3 losing sessions or more on the trot with no play time.

    Withdrew £80 from £20 twice this week (yeah peanuts I know lol :oops:) so they are not rigged...... for now....
     

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