The "IGNORE" option ??

[4 of a kind]

Since Bryan closed the thread "Rusty - You Cannot Be Serious?!!!" I was unable to respond to Jetset's comment I copied below from that thread.

Quote: "If you don't like reading what Nifty or anyone else has an opinion about, and are consistently irritated by a particular poster, just use the ignore button."

The problem with that is I could be reading a thread and the member I have activated the ignore button on, makes a post which of course I don't see and derails the entire thread. All of a sudden the thread starts doing a tail spin into a new direction, and posters begin to make references to the ignored posters post that I didn't read in the first place making it confusing to understand what's going on.

Personally I don't see the ignore button serving any purpose, and doubt anyone ever used it. Besides reading another members posts that you actually would choose to ignore, can be somewhat entertaining here. At the least by continuing to read their posts they'll usually just keep confirming your opinion of them, and you could follow a threads direction easier.

 

[Mousey]

Since Bryan closed the thread "Rusty - You Cannot Be Serious?!!!" I was unable to respond to Jetset's comment I copied below from that thread.

Quote: "If you don't like reading what Nifty or anyone else has an opinion about, and are consistently irritated by a particular poster, just use the ignore button."

The problem with that is I could be reading a thread and the member I have activated the ignore button on, makes a post which of course I don't see and derails the entire thread. All of a sudden the thread starts doing a tail spin into a new direction, and posters begin to make references to the ignored posters post that I didn't read in the first place making it confusing to understand what's going on.

Personally I don't see the ignore button serving any purpose, and doubt anyone ever used it. Besides reading another members posts that you actually would choose to ignore, can be somewhat entertaining here. At the least by continuing to read their posts they'll usually just keep confirming your opinion of them, and you could follow a threads direction easier.

I've used it, and recommend it highly (when needed). Unfortunately, someone will quote the 'ignored' person's post and you see it anyway. But sometimes not.

As to understanding what's going on... if the thread collapses into name calling and hissy fits, it's usually nothing to do with the OP, is entirely personal between the name-calling members, and isn't something I'm interested in anyway.

 

[4 of a kind]

As to understanding what's going on... if the thread collapses into name calling and hissy fits, it's usually nothing to do with the OP, is entirely personal between the name-calling members, and isn't something I'm interested in anyway.

I agree with this comment also, but wouldn't reading what someone has to say (since this is only a forum) be necessary to continually and properly evaluate your opinion of another poster?

 

[rainmaker]

I think Bryan closed the thread with the intention to stop further discussion. To start another thread with a copy of the last post from the closed thread...well

 

[4 of a kind]

I think Bryan closed the thread with the intention to stop further discussion. To start another thread with a copy of the last post from the closed thread...well

The topic of this thread has nothing to do with Rusty's thread, other then the fact to bring a discussion about the "ignore" option that Jetset mentioned in it.

Please stop rolling your eyes.

 

[Simmo!]

I think Bryan closed the thread with the intention to stop further discussion. To start another thread with a copy of the last post from the closed thread...well

I think this case is justified as it's a discussion on "ignore".

I tend to agree with 4oak - I rarely use ignore because as he says, a thread can tangent off and besides there is a certain morbid fascination in watching people lose it Plus as a Mod I can't even if I want to anyway.

I do use ignore on some forums but generally only on posters with a constantly negative or critical attitude, simply because I prefer to be happy and they make me feel miserable lol. I've only lost my cool once thankfully but I felt no better for it, regretted doing it and so just stuck the guy on ignore. A much better solution for everyone.

 

[rainmaker]

I think this case is justified as it's a discussion on "ignore".

Yes, I see your point, but I must disagree. To copy the last post in the closed thread will only be used to continue the "closed discussion". He should have started a new thread with no reference to the closed thread if he wanted to discuss "the ignore option". But anyway, no big deal

Sorry about the "rolling eyes" 4oak. It was not meant as an insult

 

[DepositSpinLose]

what's going on here lately? bicker, bicker, bicker.......can't we all just get along?

 

[Mousey]

I agree with this comment also, but wouldn't reading what someone has to say (since this is only a forum) be necessary to continually and properly evaluate your opinion of another poster?

Only if I'm mod do I find that necessary. (There are yahoo groups where I mod, or am owner and do not have the luxury of ignoring posts or members.) I'm not mod here, so, Ignore has been used when necessary to keep my big fat mouth out of trouble, and keep my blood pressure down. I've removed someone from my Ignore list (while they were still active here) once or twice. Said member(s) were still the same, so I immediately put them back on Ignore. People rarely change.

I'm probably missing some of the social aspects here as I have, over the years, considered this forum solely an important source of information pertaining to the online gambling industry. But then, I don't particularly care who likes whom, or doesn't. If someone's posts generally make me crazy, off to Ignore they go. I don't have time or patience to deal with useless nonsense.

Long ago, when we were all learning to use the internet one of the first bits in the guidelines was to not feed the trolls by going toe to toe with them. Report them if they're posting outside the forum rules, and let the mods deal with it.

Purely my 2 cents and YMMV...

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

The "ignore" option is not that useful in my opinion.
It still shows that the ignored person made a post, shows their name and headline and gives an option to read it.
Not what i expected - just testing...

 

[H1_Roller]

The "ignore" option is not that useful in my opinion.
It still shows that the ignored person made a post, shows their name and headline and gives an option to read it.
Not what i expected - just testing...

I've always found that baffling, so I never bother with it.

 

[Nifty29]

What's even more interesting, and inappropriate, is that the OP decided to leave my name in the quote when it clearly wasn't necessary.....if the thread has nothing to do with the closed thread of course, which I'm sure it doesnt.....

Just another way to take a cheap shot after a thread is closed, and this isn't the only thread today where its occurred. Childish at best.

Maybe the OP would like me to provide some "screenshots" as evidence....

 

[4 of a kind]

What's even more interesting, and inappropriate, is that the OP decided to leave my name in the quote when it clearly wasn't necessary.....if the thread has nothing to do with the closed thread of course, which I'm sure it doesnt.....

Just another way to take a cheap shot after a thread is closed, and this isn't the only thread today where its occurred. Childish at best.

Maybe the OP would like me to provide some "screenshots" as evidence....

Actually I was just getting into the "ignore" feature never even once considering your name was in the quote. I really didn't think my topic had anything to do with a name being in the quote.

What's with the sensitive paranoid behavior?

As far as the rest of your condescending post above, remember one thing:

"I love ya man"

 

[chayton]

Purely my 2 cents and YMMV...

Sorry for the derail but I'm just trying to figure out what YMMV means?

 

[ksech]

I know I am guilty of pushing the usage of the "ignore" function when it seems members can't get past disagreements. Not everyone will agree all of the time (just human nature) and some are more prone to debating no matter what the issue is. I choose not to use it, mainly because I get confused easily and if I have to try and decrypt a thread through various derailments, then I'm afraid I may miss pertinent information.

 

[chayton]

I don't use the ignore function but sometimes when I'm reading something interesting and the flaming starts, I just quit reading - so when (if) the thread ever gets back on track I end up missing what happened.

 

[luarod]

I'm too curious to use the "ignore" button. If someone posted I want to see it even if I don't like or agree with what it's said, if it's too much for me (that hasn't happened yet) I'll just stop reading like someone mentioned before. But is nice to have the option to ignore to prevent you for getting into pointless arguments.

 

[swampwitch]

Sorry for the derail but I'm just trying to figure out what YMMV means?

Usually it means "your mileage may vary"...as in "open to interpretation according to your experience".

 

[swampwitch]

About Nifty...
Seems to me that there are too many threads where dissenting opinions aren't welcome. That is bullshit. This is a forum, not a blog. If you want a thread where everyone agrees about everything...start a freaking blog and edit the dissenters.
Lay off Nifty. He's been around for years, and he is NOT any casino's toady. To expect him to not comment when he sees what he considers nonsense is fascism.

 

[jetset]

I've used it, and recommend it highly (when needed). Unfortunately, someone will quote the 'ignored' person's post and you see it anyway. But sometimes not.

As to understanding what's going on... if the thread collapses into name calling and hissy fits, it's usually nothing to do with the OP, is entirely personal between the name-calling members, and isn't something I'm interested in anyway.

I think Mousey's post above pretty much sums up my own attitude, and that is reinforced by Simmo's observations regarding personal insults...I learned early on on the internet that they add very little to a debate, and disrupt conversations, although I know that a minority of posters appear to find such confrontations entertaining.

Personally, I find such derails uninteresting and even a little irritating, and when a poster is persistently abusive I use the ignore button on him or her, simply because I value information and discussion above pointless punch-ups.

At the end of the day, even if provoked, it is imo often better to exercise self-discipline and refuse to behave in kind, preferring to continue the conversation in a rational and controlled manner...and if necessary ignoring the ranter.

 

[jetset]

About Nifty...
Seems to me that there are too many threads where dissenting opinions aren't welcome. That is bullshit. This is a forum, not a blog. If you want a thread where everyone agrees about everything...start a freaking blog and edit the dissenters.
Lay off Nifty. He's been around for years, and he is NOT any casino's toady. To expect him to not comment when he sees what he considers nonsense is fascism.

With one caveat - provided the rebuke or "dissenting opinion" is not unnecessarily insulting or abusive to a member with a different view - and that applies even if it is perceived to be nonsense in someone else's eyes.

But I generally agree, this is a forum and others will have contrary opinions on a whole range of issues - it's how they conduct themselves that counts if a sensible exchange is to be achieved.

 

[PlexRep]

For me, when I see the members going off on one another here I generally just sigh and move on to another thread. It's the internet after all.... there are ALWAYS going to be people you disagree with and vice versa.

My advice to others is to try not to take it too seriously, and always write your posts as if your mom is looking over your shoulder.

Often I am reminded of Stimpy... we should all talk smack as nicely as he does

 

[Nate]

Everybodies opinion (whether they belong in the Tin Foil section or not) should be respected. We don't need to show others how intelligent we are or how stupid they are.

I can honestly pull a dozen threads where Nifty has been the sole cause of the derail. It is uncalled for and should be addressed. Nifty has continuously pushed members here to the brink or to actual vulgarity - Before get lambasted for talking about a specific member, I would like to point out that I am responding to a quote from yourself mentioning the said member.

I truly believe that Nifty is well educated in the line of Online Casino's; however, the manner in which he addresses people and adds snide is not appreciated (for me at the very least). I can only speak for myself here and would appreciate when people are humble towards each other. How many members here will attest to Nifty derailing a thread BECAUSE he was rude or intolerant to someone else'es opinion. He continuously plays 'mod' and has also been asked by Max to back a week or two ago.

This is not a personal attack, but if I become the 'Village Idiot' for pointing out something that is very obvious (and nobody speaks about) - go ahead and whip me. My primary intention at CM is to make friends, share info and use the accredited list. I share MY Opinion on things and personally do not like it when you are labeled an idiot in a nice way for doing so - this I'm sure goes for the rest of the membership here. There are a millions of ways to communicate and the aggressive, arrogant way is not the answer.

Rusty was wrong in the way he addressed Nifty, however; it was coming sooner or later from 'some' member. I'm not saying that people should not comment or add their views, its a forum and EVERYBODY is welcome to do so! Don't belittle and be rude about it when you decide to air your views.

We are a community and should not have groups of individuals that take each other on and derail threads. Another decent poster banned once again?

Nate

About Nifty...
Seems to me that there are too many threads where dissenting opinions aren't welcome. That is bullshit. This is a forum, not a blog. If you want a thread where everyone agrees about everything...start a freaking blog and edit the dissenters.
Lay off Nifty. He's been around for years, and he is NOT any casino's toady. To expect him to not comment when he sees what he considers nonsense is fascism.

 

[The Dude]

I think Bryan closed the thread with the intention to stop further discussion. To start another thread with a copy of the last post from the closed thread...well

The intent was to close a thread that had no purpose but to ruin a weekend. Talking about "ignoring" other members is fine.

The ignore option is just that, an option. But like it's been pointed out already, it's not the perfect solution. The perfect option is to be courteous, kind, and well mannered. But this is a gambling forum with people from all walks of life, with all kinds of temperaments. Participating in a forum like this is not fluffy and cozy where Enya is playing in the background; it's chock full of lively opinionated people.

And that's what makes a forum interesting.

The moderators and I do our best in putting out the fires that spring up now and then, but we will not become forum nannies. It's up to the membership to interact appropriately. You can ignore one another, or choose not to.

Please note, to tell someone to ignore you does not give you the license to flaunt acceptable behavior. We expect everyone to treat each other with respect (besides spammers).

To go further, some members choose not to participate anymore because they don't like what another member says. That's a cop out, and that is disrespecting the forum (IMO) since we welcome all viewpoints. We will do our best to debate any subject in a fair manner, but as soon as someone loses their cool and resorts to name-calling or serious flaming - then it's a deal breaker.

This is your forum and has a lot to offer. You can start your own blogs, you can create your own social groups. You can make this forum work for you in many ways - your are limited only by your imagination (and sometimes the software ).

Don't let a few people rain on your parade.

 

[H1_Roller]

Participating in a forum like this is not fluffy and cozy where Enya is playing in the background

Haha

 

[DiamondGeezer]

The intent was to close a thread that had no purpose but to ruin a weekend.

Bryan I can't agree the thread had 'no purpose but to ruin a weekend.' The thread IMO was about a serious matter and I felt someone had to challenge the stats Rusty posted up. The thread was important but it just took a wrong turn sadly.

I did manage to reply to Rusty yesterday which I hope was of some help to him.

 

[DiamondGeezer]

About Nifty - I agree with everything Nate said. There are an alarming number of threads that have degenerated on the back of Nifty's intolerance and backchat. His constant attempts to force his views onto other members is stifling debate.

On a technical basis I do have a lot in common with Nifty as regards viewpoints. It's not his opinions I object to but the incessant forcing of them onto other members.


Personally I think it would be a good idea if Nifty's posts were moderated for a trial period. Bottom line is something needs to change or people will stop posting I feel.

 

[Nate]

I obviously stipulated that my post was not a 'personal attack'... Sure Nifty and I have crossed paths before... but that's not the issue.

I am basically airing my opinion just like swampwitch did hers. People can agree or disagree...

Now start the Neg Repping - Thanks Nifty

Nate

 

[LaHutti]

Everybodies opinion (whether they belong in the Tin Foil section or not) should be respected. We don't need to show others how intelligent we are or how stupid they are.

I can honestly pull a dozen threads where Nifty has been the sole cause of the derail. It is uncalled for and should be addressed. Nifty has continuously pushed members here to the brink or to actual vulgarity - Before get lambasted for talking about a specific member, I would like to point out that I am responding to a quote from yourself mentioning the said member.

I truly believe that Nifty is well educated in the line of Online Casino's; however, the manner in which he addresses people and adds snide is not appreciated (for me at the very least). I can only speak for myself here and would appreciate when people are humble towards each other. How many members here will attest to Nifty derailing a thread BECAUSE he was rude or intolerant to someone else'es opinion. He continuously plays 'mod' and has also been asked by Max to back a week or two ago.

This is not a personal attack, but if I become the 'Village Idiot' for pointing out something that is very obvious (and nobody speaks about) - go ahead and whip me. My primary intention at CM is to make friends, share info and use the accredited list. I share MY Opinion on things and personally do not like it when you are labeled an idiot in a nice way for doing so - this I'm sure goes for the rest of the membership here. There are a millions of ways to communicate and the aggressive, arrogant way is not the answer.

Rusty was wrong in the way he addressed Nifty, however; it was coming sooner or later from 'some' member. I'm not saying that people should not comment or add their views, its a forum and EVERYBODY is welcome to do so! Don't belittle and be rude about it when you decide to air your views.

We are a community and should not have groups of individuals that take each other on and derail threads. Another decent poster banned once again?

Nate

I fully agree, and I fully agreed with Rusy's post as well except for the namecalling, wich is why I "thanked" him on that post, that apparently got him banned (and got my "thank you" button removed (I'll survive, and still agree with Rusty)).
It was only a matter of time, before someone had to snap, and lately, I've been a little worried, that I would be the one....Rusty beat me to it.
Nifty constantly belittles other members, and has an extreme "I alone know" arrogant attitude, when responding to anyone, who dares questioning any casino, or software, as if HE has all the answers, and knows a lot more about how everything works. As far as I know, Nifty has no more access to any backend of any casino or software, than anyone else on this forum, and therefore has no knowledge, that every other member of this forum doesn't have. I would like to point out, that it IS indeed possible, that some casinos, or software provider CAN, I'm not saying that any of them DO, but that it's POSSIBLE, alter the results for players, and maybe even favor some players, and even cheat in their own favor ... we have no way of knowing for sure....and neither does Nifty, so his beliefs are just that BELIEFS, as in "not FACTS", and still Nifty has been allowed to talk down to people, like they're complete idiots for questioning the fairness of some operations, and he has continued to post his beliefs as FACTS. I think a lot of the members here, have a lot of knowledge about variance, math, and a lot of other factors in gambling, and Nifty continuosly talk to people, as if he's the only one who knows anything about these things. I'm sorry, but I can't blame the people, who has had enough of it.
He has been very careful not to use namecalling, but his way of responding, is in my opinion NO better than Rusty's response to him.
If you post like a shill, does that make you look like one ?
As the above quote, this is not a personal attack, but I wish Nifty would think about how he adresses people, as it's pretty obvious, that quite a few members have a problem with the way he has done it, in some cases.
Peace....oh....and thank you for your post Nate

 

[rainmaker]

The intent was to close a thread that had no purpose but to ruin a weekend. Talking about "ignoring" other members is fine.

Yes, it would be OK if people actually did discuss "ignoring". But as you can see, it has turned out to be another "personal attack"-thread. That was exactly why I thought it was not appropriate to start a new thread based on a thread that was closed because of personal attacks/ improper behavior. It was quite obviously that this thread at some point would be another thread with personal attacks

 

[LaHutti]

Yes, it would be OK if people actually did discuss "ignoring". But as you can see, it has turned out to be another "personal attack"-thread. That was exactly why I thought it was not appropriate to start a new thread based on a thread that was closed because of personal attacks/ improper behavior. It was quite obviously that this thread at some point would be another thread with personal attacks

As I see it, some members seem to have some problems with the way things are done, and I think it's VERY appropiate to take that discussion, especially in the light of members being banned, and having their "buttons" removed for airing their frustration.
This isn't Russia in the sixties, right ?

 

[rainmaker]

As I see it, some members seem to have some problems with the way things are done, and I think it's VERY appropiate to take that discussion, especially in the light of members being banned, and having their "buttons" removed for airing their frustration.
This isn't Russia in the sixties, right ?

Well...this is posted under "online casinos". I really do not think that casinos/reps will be so interested in using resources here if every thread turns out to be about useless personal attacks. I like to think that Casinomeister forum is something else than just another chitchat forum. You know...higher quality and all that

 

[The Dude]

Bryan I can't agree the thread had 'no purpose but to ruin a weekend.' The thread IMO was about a serious matter and I felt someone had to challenge the stats Rusty posted up. The thread was important but it just took a wrong turn sadly.

I did manage to reply to Rusty yesterday which I hope was of some help to him.

Sorry, I take that back - I should have said "The direction the thread took was attempting to wreck a busy Sunday..."

Your "Rusty" topic was lost on me after the name calling. Hopefully when he returns we can get back to having a real conversation.

As for putting "Nifty" threads into moderation is a bit unrealistic. We'd then be having to judge whether or not other members earn moderation as well. We add members into a moderation user group when exhibit anti-social behavior. Nifty does not fall into this category, in fact I feel he is being unjustly chastised here and I'm not convinced he should be the target of a troll hunt.

 

[johnsteed]

Casinomeister - We'd then be having to judge whether or not other members earn moderation as well. We add members into a moderation user group when exhibit anti-social behavior. Nifty does not fall into this category, in fact I feel he is being unjustly chastised here and I'm not convinced he should be the target of a troll hunt.

Wait.



Rusty broke the rule, he's banned for a month, okay. I think everyone is okay with your decision. You also gave him 30 days in the moderated user group, on top of his actions. Fine. But Rusty isn't 'anti-social'. He lashed-out at someone, someone who has a long history (that never seems to be fully acknowledge by the right people) of taking swipes at other members.



The people who speak out against Nifty, haven't they all been provoked at one time or another? Did he not in some part, bring onto himself by the way he's carried himself? Surely they can't all be trolls.



He's a victim? Really? Not an antagonist or an instigator, but somehow, through certain lenses, a victim. Fascinating.



Think about it, how many meltdowns in threads over the past year or so, didn't involve Nifty in some way? He's 'sociable', but Rusty is 'anti-social'...



Would we even have this thread, if he didn't have to put in his little comments about Rusty in the first place?



To wrap this up and say that he's being 'unjustly' chastised, c'mon? This issue wouldn't have blown up like it has, had he been publicly reprimanded for at least one of the times he unnecessarily stirred-it-up, at any time leading up to this.



There was a particular post on 'white people' made recently, that I found harder to swallow than what Rusty had sent Nifty's way. No one, for whatever reason, had a problem with that.

Rainmaker - Yes, it would be OK if people actually did discuss "ignoring". But as you can see, it has turned out to be another "personal attack"-thread. That was exactly why I thought it was not appropriate to start a new thread based on a thread that was closed because of personal attacks/ improper behavior. It was quite obviously that this thread at some point would be another thread with personal attacks

Oddly enough, it was post #12 that kicked this thread in the direction you didn't want it to go in.

 

[The Dude]

Wait.



Rusty broke the rule, he's banned for a month, okay. I think everyone is okay with your decision. You also gave him 30 days in the moderated user group, on top of his actions. Fine. But Rusty isn't 'anti-social'. He lashed-out at someone, someone who has a long history (that never seems to be fully acknowledge by the right people) of taking swipes at other members.

I misspoke. I have never considered Rusty "anti-social". I meant the the Moderated User Group is used mostly for those who exhibit anti-social behavior. It's a safety net of sorts. Someone gets banned for flaming, comes back after x amount of days and says "Hey, fuck you!" the moderators and I have a chance to catch this before it's live on the forum. Please don't get us wrong, we hate banning members. It's not a power trip, or an act of fascist censoring - it's enforcing rules that we all agree to.

Under the circumstances, I felt it was a fair suspension. We have a policy on suspensions that all members should be aware of here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum-faq/forum-policies/

The people who speak out against Nifty, haven't they all been provoked at one time or another? Did he not in some part, bring onto himself by the way he's carried himself? Surely they can't all be trolls...

Think about it, how many meltdowns in threads over the past year or so, didn't involve Nifty in some way? He's 'sociable', but Rusty is 'anti-social'...

I never said that. But as time permits, I'll be trying to trace where this friction is happening. Perhaps it's subtle to everyone except the receiver of the comment(s).

...There was a particular post on 'white people' made recently, that I found harder to swallow than what Rusty had sent Nifty's way. No one, for whatever reason, had a problem with that.

All I can say is "report-a-post" - that's a quick ticket for us to check out any comments. I'm sure for those who use this function will agree that the moderators and I check these out and take action when necessary.

 

[The Dude]

Admin Note: thread moved

Just an admin note - moving this into the attic since it really has nothing to do with Online Casinos

 

[DiamondGeezer]

Look no one is saying Rusty didn't derserve to take a vacation. We all know he did overstep the boundary with his comments.

You will find there would have been many chances to cashout but it wasn't done.

We've heard all this before and I have a grain of salt here if you'd like one

But it can't be denied that the post above was pretty inflammatory and nothing more than a personal insult. The post contributed nothing to the discussion. If he felt that then the best action was not to post. It's hard to conclude anything other than it was an attempt to wind up Rusty.

Also this thread is a good example of Nifty's intolerance to the viewpoints of others:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/manhattanslots-cancelled-my-withdrawal-again.44910/

 

[aceking123]

Look no one is saying Rusty didn't derserve to take a vacation. We all know he did overstep the boundary with his comments.







But it can't be denied that the post above was pretty inflammatory and nothing more than a personal insult. The post contributed nothing to the discussion. If he felt that then the best action was not to post. It's hard to conclude anything other than it was an attempt to wind up Rusty.

Also this thread is a good example of Nifty's intolerance to the viewpoints of others:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/manhattanslots-cancelled-my-withdrawal-again.44910/

hi got to agree rusty was out of line but he just defended himself, nifty didnt help whatsoever , the problem is nifty is a little abrupt its just the way he is , mostly he does come up with good advise but sometimes hes just post what hes thinking with out paying attention , dont think hes a shill but does like a battle when confronted from another member , rusty just flipped thats it , nothing more nothing less , someone was going to do it & it happened to be rusty & no im winding the pot up just saying what i see from this side of the screen )

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

I obviously stipulated that my post was not a 'personal attack'... Sure Nifty and I have crossed paths before... but that's not the issue.

I am basically airing my opinion just like swampwitch did hers. People can agree or disagree...

Now start the Neg Repping - Thanks Nifty

Additionally, those who "thanked" that post should be ashamed - childish mobbing and those members (bAdsmoker, ericlee, kauphy, and LaHutti) have had their "thanking" privileges suspended indefinitely.

Act like a child; get treated like one.

I personally think that giving negative reps to someone can be as childish if not more.

 

[Nate]

I personally think that giving negative reps to someone can be as childish if not more.

I was just pointing out that he had already neg repped me and not advocating it... if it came across that way

Nate

 

[The Dude]

Well, in a perfect world we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I've spent the better part of the day going through threads and postings and have give Nifty some time off as well (72 hrs) and requested that he not post what could be considered confrontational postings.

I'm hoping we can move on and put this behind us. I really should not be spending this amount of time on telling 40-50-year olds how to behave in a public forum.

 

[Papa-ya]

The intent was to close a thread that had no purpose but to ruin a weekend. Talking about "ignoring" other members is fine.

The ignore option is just that, an option. But like it's been pointed out already, it's not the perfect solution. The perfect option is to be courteous, kind, and well mannered. But this is a gambling forum with people from all walks of life, with all kinds of temperaments. Participating in a forum like this is not fluffy and cozy where Enya is playing in the background; it's chock full of lively opinionated people.

And that's what makes a forum interesting.

The moderators and I do our best in putting out the fires that spring up now and then, but we will not become forum nannies. It's up to the membership to interact appropriately. You can ignore one another, or choose not to.

Please note, to tell someone to ignore you does not give you the license to flaunt acceptable behavior. We expect everyone to treat each other with respect (besides spammers).

To go further, some members choose not to participate anymore because they don't like what another member says. That's a cop out, and that is disrespecting the forum (IMO) since we welcome all viewpoints. We will do our best to debate any subject in a fair manner, but as soon as someone loses their cool and resorts to name-calling or serious flaming - then it's a deal breaker.

This is your forum and has a lot to offer. You can start your own blogs, you can create your own social groups. You can make this forum work for you in many ways - your are limited only by your imagination (and sometimes the software ).

Don't let a few people rain on your parade.

Just to inject my thoughts on this subject, I have followed this forum for quite some time and as many others have found it to be a diverse and interesting place that draws a member back.
For members that choose to quit posting because of certain posters constant behavior to them, doesn't necessarily mean they have coped out, just that they have thrown in the towel. Which really is a shame, because all posters here, even Nifty, lend a flame and soul to this forum that is unlike so many others.
As to putting out fires, well some fires are good, to an extent, it shows there are passionate people here that do like to discuss things and participate. Being on fire makes for an interesting forum, being an arson is something alltogether different.
I have tried a couple of other forums and seriously, there is no passion, no fire to keep a member interested in being a part of keeping the forum alive.

In my opinion what I am thinking, is the problem is originating from the fact that the majority of members here feel it is an immature discourteous act to report another member, so they don't do it. On the other hand, certain members have no problem reporting everyone else, so some get banned or suspended for a time while "certain" ones continue on as before.
Thus threads end in a flaming pile of poo and Bryan or the moderators have to take the upper hand.
So not reporting these things that one feels is out of line, or flaming, is exacerbating the problem of not nipping the originator of the flaming derail in the bud, so Bryan and the moderators see no problem with the members who may be inflamming another member. Thus their perception may be misinterrpreted as non action on Bryans or the Moderators behalf and many members are seeing this as biased instead of seeing it as they are not getting the whole picture.

So if there is a problem with a response you are getting in a thread that is making you flame, for heavens sake, report it! It couldn't hurt and it doesn't make anyone here look like a tattle tale at all, afterall, someone is reporting you, otherwise no one would be getting banned or suspended.

Just remember, if you're getting Neg Repped unjustly and Reported unfairly, you have the same tools at your disposal.

As for the ignore button, it is flawed, because it teaches the ignored person nothing, but reporting a post shouldn't be flawed.

Just My Opinion.

 

[4 of a kind]

Didn't see a reason to start another Frankenstein thread so maybe someone could answer a simple question for me. You would think by now I should know about this, but I really don't.

How do you get a negative rep or whatever is the correct name? Who could give you this neg. rep.? Where could you find out if you got any? What does it actually mean or stand for? If you have any could you know who gave it to you and what for?

I have an infraction in my profile, but can't seem to find anything about neg. rep.

 

[rainmaker]

Didn't see a reason to start another Frankenstein thread so maybe someone could answer a simple question for me. You would think by now I should know about this, but I really don't.

How do you get a negative rep or whatever is the correct name? Who could give you this neg. rep.? Where could you find out if you got any? What does it actually mean or stand for? If you have any could you know who gave it to you and what for?

I have an infraction in my profile, but can't seem to find anything about neg. rep.

I am tired now (It is quite late here in Norway ), so I only answer one of your questions

You will find your neg.rep on your profile. Look under "reputation". I can see on your profile that you have gotten one neg rep lately.

 

[4 of a kind]

Papa-ya sent me a PM and explained all to me.

Just for the record, I checked and I have only one negative charge.
To my surprise it was from my pal Niffty. Go figure??????

 

[rainmaker]

Papa-ya sent me a PM and explained all to me.

Just for the record, I checked and I have only one negative charge.
To my surprise it was from my pal Niffty. Go figure??????

Yes, you have only one that is visible. But the rep-overview will only show your very recent awarded reputation (the last 15).

Yes, I see that you have gotten one from my Australian mate. He rarely gives out neg.rep to my knowledge, so he probably had a good reason

 

[4 of a kind]

Yes, I see that you have gotten one from my Australian mate. He rarely gives out neg.rep to my knowledge, so he probably had a good reason

Yea, your probably right. Kind of reminds me when I was a kid and my father gave me a back hand to the face for disobeying his orders.

 

[jod5413]

Yea, your probably right. Kind of reminds me when I was a kid and my father gave me a back hand to the face for disobeying his orders.

Hey! I had a dad just like yours!! Do you think we are related?

 

[felicie]

The "ignore" option is not that useful in my opinion.
It still shows that the ignored person made a post, shows their name and headline and gives an option to read it.
Not what i expected - just testing...

I got 'ignored' here recently as some might have noticed and to be honest I was sorry when it stopped. Can't really explain it but it's like suddenly finding yourself free of something you didn't even realize was weighing you down so much. Told you I couldn't explain it lol

 

[chayton]

I got 'ignored' here recently as some might have noticed and to be honest I was sorry when it stopped. Can't really explain it but it's like suddenly finding yourself free of something you didn't even realize was weighing you down so much. Told you I couldn't explain it lol

How do you know when someone's ignoring you? Does it show up in your profile somewhere? Or do you just not know unless they tell you? Or until everyone quits responding to your posts? (are you ignoring me now?)