New Slot Announcement The Final Countdown by BTG (or Danger High Voltage II)
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Very fitting this is. launches a day before BREXIT
Title of the slot is also fitting too lol. As we are in the final countdown. But House of commons speaker has just put a spanner in the works though as he just said that the PM can not bring back her deal for another meaningful vote unless it is substantially different. So yeah end of brexit talk now.Glitch. Well what ever yes glitches happen. Some slots have bugs and glitches, good? NO! of course they are not good, but still they should have noticed these bugs during play testing before they released it at LV. Oh well. Maybe when they play test the slots they do not actually play the slot as in the visual side, they might just play test it at the backend and not front visual end? who knows.
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@Harry_BKK not sure mate, Asked again to all parties. Will keep you in the loop!
Btw. if its available on that date, im sure we are the first, ill wake up in the middle of the night to accomplish that
Cheers!
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Btw. if its available on that date, im sure we are the first, ill wake up in the middle of the night to accomplish that
Cheers!
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Ah yes. Forgot about that. Yep, plenty not quite right then, centred around the countdown counter.
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Different game, same theme. This happened to me @Guts not once but twice on Montezuma. I triggered the bonus with 3 shields only for the first spin to drop the 3 shields straight back in. but I didn’t get a retrigger just a small win that seemed to be underneath what I was seeing. Slightly confused as to what happened I thought it pointless Pursuing an explanation. Sometime later (different day) the exact same thing happened only this time I recognised the first free spin as being an exact replica of the previous spin that triggered the bonus (again it just paid a small win underneath). The first time probably was but this time I clocked it for sure and how long has that game been running?
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If you want to see the retrigger working OK @ChopleyIOM I made a secondary 'features only' video shortly after the first review one you referred to.
It may help you work out the issue...
So it's as already observed, the slot 'corrects' itself insofar as it revokes the increased multiplier symbol and the extra free spins, but the retrigger behaviour of resetting the countdown to 10 is retained, as if the retrigger had actually happened, rather than going back to 2 or 3 as it should have done in a full 'reset' scenario, i.e. if the entire round had 'reset' to the none retrigger round. (In fact, if you think about it, the slot does the 'best case scenario' for itself. It takes back the extra multiplier and free spins, but decides to retain the reset of the countdown to 10. What would have happened if a scatter or two had landed in the final couple of spins? Would it have started counting down from 10 again, rather than the 2 or 3 where it should have been?)
If I'd been playing this at £10 per spin (as The Bandit was), and what happened to The Bandit in his video happened to me, I'd be absolutely fucking fuming.
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Embarrassing glitch by BTG with at least 3 streamers experiencing the issue. How many non-streamers had it over the weekend we will never know.
Would have been best for the operator to pull the slot for a while and test it further. I hope LeoVegas have asked for their reportedly €125k exclusivity fee back!
I know theBandit is upset by what happened (so would I) but in the end he got paid for the bonus when really it was a malfunction and he should been paid nothing but his £10 stake.
Would have been best for the operator to pull the slot for a while and test it further. I hope LeoVegas have asked for their reportedly €125k exclusivity fee back!
I know theBandit is upset by what happened (so would I) but in the end he got paid for the bonus when really it was a malfunction and he should been paid nothing but his £10 stake.
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I'm trying my best to divine some sort of sarcasm in your words there Nicola, but it seems as if you're actually being serious?
I mean, really, the guy should think himself lucky that he got paid the total for the faulty bonus round on the malfunctioning slot, rather than just get his stake back?
If Ford sell me a brand new faulty car, they have to fix it at their expense. If BTG sell a faulty slot and invite people to spend real money on it, the players do so at their own risk.
Yeah I know, malfunction voids all pays. Nice little get out the casino 'industry' has for itself there, why take responsibility for your actions when you can disclaimer it all away with a line of text?
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I'm glad he got paid for the bonus but at no point did he deserve the retrigger because the game didn't award enough scatters to start with. What's to say he wouldn't have got 6 dead spins anyway, we all have experience of BTG 'randomness' and 'last spin no win'
I've been a vicitim of malfunction, at the Golden Nugget in London's Piccadilly back in the day. That IGT malfunction cost me at least £4k.
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I’ve been watching your posts and videos very closely both here and on YouTube and I must say - You’ve got to be one of the most honest people on this forum I’ve seen so far ! keep Up the good work !
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We’ve heard a lot of stories like this before to make us feel better !
Thanks for coming !
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But he did get enough scatters. In the game one scatter gives 1 to 3 from the countdown meter. It gave him all he needed to reach 0.
The game then made the sound of retrigger. Reset the countdown meter . Added the extra spins and showed the new wild all like the game is supposed to.
I really do not get how people can be saying on here oh it is just a graphical glitch or a malfunction. It is happening too often on BTG games. And this time the game played exact way it should to get a retrigger.
But seems BTG can get away with games awarding something that does not pay by saying it is just a glitch.
So what will happen the first time someone hits a full screen of diamonds on bonanza with a 30x multiplier. Will the game suddenly not register the win and BTG will say sorry you never hit that it was just a graphical error. Sorry these errors just take away trust there is in their games paying correctly.
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Knew you would not of missed this... not had a half hour to watch your video yet though.
(BTW it's me who made the Indy Jones empty comments)
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This sort of thing seriously damages trust, btg's development staff must have played the bonus rounds hundreds of times, maybe a thousand times, but as soon as it's released to the public for real money play a glitch appears which all the time they played it never appeared 
Also, no offence to chopley intended, but I'd like to propose an admendment to his post #83:
this motion will be carried and binding if I receive 1 like
Also, no offence to chopley intended, but I'd like to propose an admendment to his post #83:
this motion will be carried and binding if I receive 1 like
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Of course I am not defending what happened but strictly he didn’t get enough scatters. The first one should of deducted 3 but infact deducted 6. Therefore the retrigger was an error. God knows how. I thought I was starting to understand a little more in depth how these things work but that has put me back to square one tbh.
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@paul7388 don't play the game so could be wrong..
but from what i can see, ignoring the counter itself showing 0 due to initially deducting the counter by 6 instead of 3 which the first scatter displayed, and ignoring the upgraded wild appearing/extra spins , if it had counted correctly and deducted 3 from the first scatter instead of 6, which should have left 7 required instead of 4, then if ignoring that counter display - and watching on from when had only 2 remaining spins while rememebering what the slot itself had given so far ( watching on from the moment he thought it had retriggered) he still needed a scatter to produce a deduction of 2, in order to reach enough spins for a retrigger.
if that's correct, the final two spins didn't provide another scatter and so , didnt ever reach the point a retrigger should be activated.
i only say this because you said he got enough scatters, and the first scatter said 3 but deducted by 6.. so as far as i can see he didn't get enough scatters for a retrigger since no spins came after the "retrigger" happened.
its only an inexpeirienced gutt feeling, but i get the feeling that perhaps the coding went bat shit crazy contradicting itself, since something was maybe initially saying to award extra spins & activate the bigger multiplier due to the countdown hitting 0 (something like 'if X is Y then A=B) , but was then overrided by another part of coding which said hold the hell on bro, he still needs two more.. (which never came in the last 2 spins)
and so was continuing from where that left off and removed the awarded multiplier, while the countdown was saying 'well fook you m8, im going back to ten anyway because thats what im told to do, i dont give a damn what yo do' .and the multiplying wild was like 'well suck on my nuts, i know what happened and so im going back to the smaller multiplier where IM supposed to be at biaatch!'
as for the "what will happen on a 30x multiplier on bonanza with screen of diamonds" , well maybe they will have a law suit on their hands because it wouldnt suprise me if Great Blue by Playtech have patented that kind of scenario, going by past happenings on the slot during high potential bonus rounds
im no fan of BTG at all, and following the donuts scenario and this happening more regular for other streamers as nicola just posted, it really looks bad, theres no debating that.
its just an hunch i have on what could have happened, is all.
but from what i can see, ignoring the counter itself showing 0 due to initially deducting the counter by 6 instead of 3 which the first scatter displayed, and ignoring the upgraded wild appearing/extra spins , if it had counted correctly and deducted 3 from the first scatter instead of 6, which should have left 7 required instead of 4, then if ignoring that counter display - and watching on from when had only 2 remaining spins while rememebering what the slot itself had given so far ( watching on from the moment he thought it had retriggered) he still needed a scatter to produce a deduction of 2, in order to reach enough spins for a retrigger.
if that's correct, the final two spins didn't provide another scatter and so , didnt ever reach the point a retrigger should be activated.
i only say this because you said he got enough scatters, and the first scatter said 3 but deducted by 6.. so as far as i can see he didn't get enough scatters for a retrigger since no spins came after the "retrigger" happened.
its only an inexpeirienced gutt feeling, but i get the feeling that perhaps the coding went bat shit crazy contradicting itself, since something was maybe initially saying to award extra spins & activate the bigger multiplier due to the countdown hitting 0 (something like 'if X is Y then A=B) , but was then overrided by another part of coding which said hold the hell on bro, he still needs two more.. (which never came in the last 2 spins)
and so was continuing from where that left off and removed the awarded multiplier, while the countdown was saying 'well fook you m8, im going back to ten anyway because thats what im told to do, i dont give a damn what yo do' .and the multiplying wild was like 'well suck on my nuts, i know what happened and so im going back to the smaller multiplier where IM supposed to be at biaatch!'
as for the "what will happen on a 30x multiplier on bonanza with screen of diamonds" , well maybe they will have a law suit on their hands because it wouldnt suprise me if Great Blue by Playtech have patented that kind of scenario, going by past happenings on the slot during high potential bonus rounds
im no fan of BTG at all, and following the donuts scenario and this happening more regular for other streamers as nicola just posted, it really looks bad, theres no debating that.
its just an hunch i have on what could have happened, is all.
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The patch was released yesterday 12 hours after we were made aware of the bandits' video. As much as we try to test every possible game scenario on every phone/browser combination and on every desktop OS combined with every browser type and all their backdated versions. Bugs can find a way through our testing cycles which as @ChopleyIOM rightly mentioned are rigorous.
The update is live and the game will be launching across all networks via Relax and SG from next week. We apologize to any players that experienced the bug first hand. If you did experience this issue, the server would have paid out the game feature in full.
The update is live and the game will be launching across all networks via Relax and SG from next week. We apologize to any players that experienced the bug first hand. If you did experience this issue, the server would have paid out the game feature in full.
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BTG have also stated that the player would be paid whatever had played out on the server side. (How they as the provider can speak on behalf of the casinos I'm not entirely sure - perhaps they meant the server would have sent a winning value to the casino which reflected the outcome of the server game?).
Which does beg the question - what exactly is a malfunction deemed worthy enough to void a bet? As with most things with slots I suspect it comes with a rather large portion of 'it depends'. The 'depends' part being more about the effect it has on the casino as opposed to the player.
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I get software can have bugs, but as far as I am aware Bandit and most of the other streamers use a fairly standard Windows 10 setup with one of the usual browsers
Presumably behind the scenes BTG have an error/debug log so they can identify the exact setups that caused the issue(s)?
Presumably behind the scenes BTG have an error/debug log so they can identify the exact setups that caused the issue(s)?
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Whilst I know nothing about the complexity of how this all works the logical questions still spring to mind. How is it that these “bugs” almost invariably happen during or are connected to bonus rounds. If you get disconnected more often than not it’s during a bonus round. I get that this part of the game is probably more complex ( good reason to test it more thoroughly if that’s the case) or this might sound a bit naive but is it something to do with bonuses being connected to a different rng/server.
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I think it goes to show that, even if we do not know specifically what happens behind the scenes, that BTG slots do have ongoing, as it happens, bonus rounds which are not pre-determined. As you point out, bonus rounds will have more variables to them and I have the feeling BTG probably have more than most as they seem to push the maths envelopes with their slots
There’s a reason the world and his wife licensed the megaways from them.
Not trying to be an ass here but are you saying that this bug was strictly appearing on a specific browser/OS combination? And that it happened because you didn't thoroughly tested this particular setup?
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Sorry if that was misleading, I was just iterating the scale of testing! The actual issue was due to the front end reading a second scatter on an out of view reel position (pushed out by the wild) and deducting it from the countdown. One particular reel has two scatters close together and the front end read it wrong. This set the game to be out of sync with the server, hence level 2's Wild was set back to x4 and after the 8th spin, the feature completed. As this was an extremely rare event it had slipped through the net in testing. Personally (test labs aside) I must have played 5,000 features during the build of this game and it never occurred for me or for the pre-compliance testers and then the test labs thereafter who would have collectively played it through much more.
It's no excuse and the last thing we want is to let bugs slip through the net, we do the very best we can to squash every bug but occasionally it happens and when it does we take the game offline and patch a new version as soon as humanly possible.
@Balthazar, no worries at all and you're not being, it's good that you can reach out to us directly and we're happy to come clean about any issues! We do our utmost to deliver the most thoroughly tested games we can and we as you know hold games back if they are not ready. Just talk to any provider on any platform how rigorous testing is for regulated markets, they will tell you it's an extremely tough and there are many, many test cycles, even on simple games, The Final Countdown has a lot going on, which is no excuse and we sincerely hope we never let this happen again.
Again apologies to anyone that experienced this issue first hand, the issue was fixed on Monday:18/03/2019
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I just wondered if there is any particular reason why no matter where I play I have (and so do a lot of others judging by the posts) difficulty loading your games and get constant disconnections. Also why you use so many different platforms for the same game depending on which site you play. Even at the same site Bonanza has a different platform than Chilli and so on. I appreciate I play on a mobile but I don’t get many problems at all from other providers.
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Extremely rare event? So you claim that thousands upon thousands of test features had been played and this problem didn't occur once, yet a few streamers (and there aren't THAT many of them) get to play the slot for few hours and not one, but multiple get the same bug? What are the chances of that? This seems like an obvious result of some very poor testing.
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I had the same thought when I read the reply too. 5000+ bonuses + all the ones the testers did, not one had the error, yet multiple streamers, who didn't have 10% of that many bonuses got the error
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iIt might help if someone from BTG could count, I always thought 10-3 was 7 but BTG reckon it's 4
Might explain the rtp
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Personally, I think BTG are being very honest about their game error. In all the years I've been here I haven't seen any other developer go into much detail or apoligise publicly about such a bug.
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Aye. It makes sense as well - I've done some software testing in the past. You can guarantee that things which never come up in testing occur when you go live.
It's called Sod's Law.
The whole thing with testing is trying to break the software. But there are so many variables, it's impossible to pin down every bug.
It's called Sod's Law.
The whole thing with testing is trying to break the software. But there are so many variables, it's impossible to pin down every bug.
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Loving bonanza and DHV to bits myself , the latest few releases From BTG have been a bit of a let down really (at least not what players were expecting).
Is it just me or is the BTG rep becoming more active on the forum lately ... ?!?!
Is it just me or is the BTG rep becoming more active on the forum lately ... ?!?!
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I had the same thought when I read the reply too. 5000+ bonuses + all the ones the testers did, not one had the error, yet multiple streamers, who didn't have 10% of that many bonuses got the error
"We do our utmost to deliver the most thoroughly tested games we can..."
It would appear that the traffic lights at your local intersection are more thoroughly tested than BTG's slots at this moment. Testing to make sure that you never pay a biggie doesn't count!
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Blimey ? You mean fishy)
Just to add wow what are those odds all the people in the word playing this slot & choppers who bothered to make videos about how bad this slot was with glitching & stuff goes & hits this type of win. Im gob smacked. Not knocking you choppers but looks like btg got your ip & boosted your account.
Just to add wow what are those odds all the people in the word playing this slot & choppers who bothered to make videos about how bad this slot was with glitching & stuff goes & hits this type of win. Im gob smacked. Not knocking you choppers but looks like btg got your ip & boosted your account.
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Not just me who immediately thought
what a coincidence then.
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Not verified?
I see the bandit has had troubles withdrawing 5k from his last vid.
Good luck!!
I see the bandit has had troubles withdrawing 5k from his last vid.
Good luck!!
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I’m sure you have to wager ur deposit at least once also, due to money laundering restrictions etc!!
Cracking hit btw. Amazing spawn.
Cracking hit btw. Amazing spawn.
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I will be honest that, even before Chopley’s hit, that outside of the potentially damaging volatility I actually like the thing. I’ve not done that well and the last countdown feature for me went for 15x but by god, it does get the blood pumping.
I cannot get away from the likely common event of you balance going with no features in 30 minutes but those features are almost perfectly balanced.
I think this will eventually looked at as a worthy “sequel” to DHV but it very much depends on if you can handle the swings. Again, more geared towards those who have a bank roll which can handle it.
I wonder if Chopleys hit will be beaten by Casinodaddy within the next couple of weeks.
I cannot get away from the likely common event of you balance going with no features in 30 minutes but those features are almost perfectly balanced.
I think this will eventually looked at as a worthy “sequel” to DHV but it very much depends on if you can handle the swings. Again, more geared towards those who have a bank roll which can handle it.
I wonder if Chopleys hit will be beaten by Casinodaddy within the next couple of weeks.
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Doesn't make a single deposit anywhere for donkeys ages. Hits bonus on the 25th spin. Wins 5698x.
Blimey? You're the master of understatement Choppers. As well as spawn.
Great win though mate.
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Love all your videos and commentary chopley
"Becca you can have 10 pounds for your savings bank after this"
Lost my shit
Congrats on the win mate
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Love all your videos and commentary chopley
"Becca you can have 10 pounds for your savings bank after this"
Lost my shit
Congrats on the win mate
I made sure she got her tenner whilst the video was rendering out, which she promptly squirrelled away in her savings bank!
The cash is still in Leo Vegas, I'll log back in and sort out the withdrawal, although I'm expecting I'll have to submit docs and suchlike. It's only the third deposit I've ever made there!
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You spawny tw@t. You unutterably jammy git. I am green and have only just stopped vomiting.
I played that for 2 days to make my features video and never got close to a win like that, and Chopley fortune-bollocks gets 5.6k x bet on the first feature.
Make sure you take a screenie of the total and get it on the mega-wins (3,000 x bet plus) thread lol....
And finally - a huge congratulations to you.....
P.S. If they try and rip your video to stick on their Casinogrounds channel, charge them.
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You spawny tw@t. You unutterably jammy git. I am green and have only just stopped vomiting.
I played that for 2 days to make my features video and never got close to a win like that, and Chopley fortune-bollocks gets 5.6k x bet on the first feature.
Make sure you take a screenie of the total and get it on the mega-wins (3,000 x bet plus) thread lol....
And finally - a huge congratulations to you.....
Yes it was almost unimaginably spawny, TBH it sort of blindsided me as it was happening, needless to say I wasn't expecting anything remotely like that to happen.....
I've submitted by docs to Leo Vegas but haven't actually made the withdrawal yet, I've asked them to remove the bonus (which they've done), I'm comfortable with playing down to £2000 (but certainly not beyond that) before withdrawing. I note there's a shiny new version of Bruce Lee which has autoplay, and because LeoVegas treat me as UK, I can play NetEnt slots!
Back to The Final Countdown, I note there is actually a purple gem on reel 6 during the 256x round, so theoretically the two wins where I had the purple gem on reel 1 which paid £727 a pop, could have been about £3500 a pop, assuming the purple gem can actually land and isn't just there for visual purposes.
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I have just calculated your RTP to date on TFC - £9.60 spent on spins, £3.85 in minor wins plus £2279.20 returned, so your lifetime RTP on it stands at approx. 23781%
If I had done that on my channel, the UK supermarkets would have found their shelves stripped of Bacofoil by midday today.
Yes, it can do 6OAK purples and your good fortune stems from the fact that the 256x retrigger only adds 2 extra spins and you did it so early that you had 7 left which meant 7 guaranteed mega wins, sort of like hitting an early Wild Line on DoA.
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