The bones personal thread......

[Janek12]

x 250 to be deposited.


Next..... PROVEN SYSTEM module 1 complete!


I am not selling anything to anyone. Next person to insinuate that will be reported. It is an insult!

Later

Did I strike a nerve there?

There are only two possibilites the way I see it:
1) You are doing this just to boost your ego and to show off. You do not seek help here with your gambling problem, you have made that abundantly clear.

2) I do not want to give many pointers to scammers out there - but you have already promised to send 100 Canadian dollars to one member here. I think this can be psychologically a hint to others... Because all it takes is for some people to get lucky with your system and they might send you part of their winnings out of gratitude. And some people WILL win - it is statistical certainty, that is, if you get enough people to follow your "system". And it seems to me you are working really hard on that.

So you don't have to be explicitly selling it... but you can still very subtly scam people into sending you money.

 

[mathsboy1975]

I always start with starburst. 3 or 4. Depending on bonus.

If no bonus. 3
100% match then 4 but quickly up to 5 or 6

Next. If not lucky. I hit Eagle wings or hitman. 3-4

If lucky I hit TS II or Burning desire

If super lucky, over 2k.... BDBA at 9 per spin.
If super lucky on BDBA 5k..... Then it's balancing. Either can out at 4k or hit more. Always one thousand less is the most I will lose

Example. I reach 5200. I lose at hit 4k. Cash out.

I reach 5200 and then reach 7700. 6500 I cashout or let it ride to next level

Go wild and casino extra two weeks ago rolled me to over 30k+ combined. I admit I did get lucky. Need some luck to win no obviously.

Gotta know when to walk. I am ready to cash out 1k from any casino. If I hit 1k at next casino, I may cash out and roll the other three. Decisions decisions.

So basically this is a stake increase system implemented with max loss limit and a ratchet scheme on the profit levels based around the square numbers??

 

[mathsboy1975]

Did I strike a nerve there?

There are only two possibilites the way I see it:
1) You are doing this just to boost your ego and to show off. You do not seek help here with your gambling problem, you have made that abundantly clear.

2) I do not want to give many pointers to scammers out there - but you have already promised to send 100 Canadian dollars to one member here. I think this can be psychologically a hint to others... Because all it takes is for some people to get lucky with your system and they might send you part of their winnings out of gratitude. And some people WILL win - it is statistical certainty, that is, if you get enough people to follow your "system". And it seems to me you are working really hard on that.

So you don't have to be explicitly selling it... but you can still very subtly scam people into sending you money.

Too late dude!! You have been reported - I probably will be in a minute too!!

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

It's called a tip!!!

He is a gentleman. Even PM me a smaller size for my avatar.

If I win big, Ü damn right I will send him a C note! A gift. He made me laugh so much and a laugh is worth more than money.

In an send anything I want. He didn't sell me anything. He didn't even ask. He is a gent. Where I come from sharing with people is the way. 100 bucks will let him have some fun. I owe him that for the laughs he have me!

Get over it!

 

[Janek12]

Could be. Constant use of repeated key words, endless repetition of same nonsensical ideas. Evasiveness when asked direct questions. From the affiliate side of things actually selling the pr-v-n sy-s-m would be unnecessary, thus not risking the ire of the site owners here. Lots of good reviews for other casinos so as not to appear to favour one over another in an excessive manner. Thing is though if someone came here through google to read his thread, surely they would sign up through the CM links???

Maybe our cynicism is running into overdrive.

Maybe it is . I tried to make sure not to accuse the OP of anything; I just wanted to describe the more sinister possibilites...

You summed up the suspicious points nicely. From the sinister perspective, it was also strange how the OP freaked out when he was moved to the attic... until he found out he can carry on as usual.

As for the affiliate links - he is already promoting "tips" and "gentlemanly sharing"... and if someone wins big, they may be highly inclined to send him "a tip" in the ecstasy after a big win... so the affiliate links are not necessary IMO...

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

No sir....

Too late dude!! You have been reported - I probably will be in a minute too!!

No need to report you. You are being real. Calling me a scammer is a personal insult!

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

What is an affiliate?

Is it people who have website that send people to casinos and get a commission on losses?

Is that what an affiliate is?



If so..... I must have done a good Job for one of my FAB 4. Videoslots.com!

All i do is lose there.
Started trouble like crazy

Give me a break if that's what affiliates are! Lol

 

[mathsboy1975]

No need to report you. You are being real. Calling me a scammer is a personal insult!

You realise how it looks though? Over the last few messages we have ended up with some of the detail around how you do things. Had you started the thread like this under the premise of something like

"I use this stake variation and ratcheting system - I am not saying it works but I am getting good results with it and it is helping me keep discipline"

that you would have received FAR less negativity??

Your system could have been condensed into a SINGLE POST, and yet here we are in the region of 430 posts into this thread!!

Why all the cloak and dagger about it and why the fuss about moving the thread to the attic??
Why the mention of how many hits the thread has had???

Do you understand why some people may find the evolution of this thread somewhat "unusual" ????

 

[paul7388]

Is it people who have website that send people to casinos and get a commission on losses?

Is that what an affiliate is?

Yes that's about it Johnny. And Janek to be fair I don't actually think johnny is trying to scam anyone. If you read all his posts you will see he has never stated he can win at casinos. He is stating that in his mind his proven system is his way of dealing with his gambling. Instead of quitting like most would he believes he can deposit at 4 casinos so not to blow too much money andhe thinks he might win at them then he will cash out at certain points but if he loses he wont deposit at any other casino so keeping his gambling under control. Not by any means what I would call a proven system but at end of the day I might have many opinions on his ideas and postings but I do not think for one second he s trying to scam anyone and make money from people. I don't really think many members here do either and if Bryan had thought that im sure he would have banned him instantly instead of letting him keep posting. And as for promoting his fab4 you will now see he has for some reason included videoslots in it and if you check he has caused loads of problems for them and been banned because of his earlier posts on videoslots cheating him .

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

Can we all just relax please

Let's just chill Guys

We see things differently.

If the mods close this thread it will be a shame.

So much more to come. Now we are just saying stupid things. Let us be mature.

Cristisize what u want. Just don't insinuate things that are no where near true.

On a different note.....

I am solid. No deposit. No play. Nothing. I am in control. Doing well.

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

The name....

I guess the name PROVEN SYSTEM is misleading!

If in websters dictionary. Here is the description.......

PROVEN SYSTEM: a method of controlling a compulsive gamblers actions. A way to take control of the fire raging inside a human that has be there for decades. Controlling one's brain activity and understanding the impact of an illness to loved ones. Preparing for the future with hope not to relapse to the fire within.

That is step 1

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

SMARTS definition....

SMARTS: ability to win by convincing your brain that you have a hypothetical edge. Maximizing winnings into higher winnings and knowing when to stop. Playing certain games at the right moment. Although random, a player who has wagered millions in spins over time can theoretically and convince his brain to believe he has an advantage of a purely random game.

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

INVINCIBLE.

Another module is INVINCIBLE... Definition

INVINCIBLE: a player will feel that he/she is on top of the world when running well. Feeling this way is not only a problem, it is the worst thing possible. Lack of appreciation for winnings will result in losing. Feeling like you can not lose will be one's downfall. INVINCIBLE must be controlled. Avoiding such thoughts as being so will be a success. Giving in to the INVINCIBLE will make your gaming a miserable experience.

 

[Janek12]

Yes that's about it Johnny. And Janek to be fair I don't actually think johnny is trying to scam anyone. If you read all his posts you will see he has never stated he can win at casinos. He is stating that in his mind his proven system is his way of dealing with his gambling. Instead of quitting like most would he believes he can deposit at 4 casinos so not to blow too much money andhe thinks he might win at them then he will cash out at certain points but if he loses he wont deposit at any other casino so keeping his gambling under control. Not by any means what I would call a proven system but at end of the day I might have many opinions on his ideas and postings but I do not think for one second he s trying to scam anyone and make money from people. I don't really think many members here do either and if Bryan had thought that im sure he would have banned him instantly instead of letting him keep posting. And as for promoting his fab4 you will now see he has for some reason included videoslots in it and if you check he has caused loads of problems for them and been banned because of his earlier posts on videoslots cheating him .

I have read all his posts. And, of course, I may be wrong , I have no evidence. Yes, the OP wrote many things but IMO hiding the important things among many rants would be important for a scammer. People are more suspicious nowadays. Also, for the same reason, so as not to make people to suspicious, it is important to write some sensible things amidst the things important for the scam, etc.


To add to my "suspicious points", I also find it strange that he claims not to be sure about what an "affiliate" is. After playing online for so long? And after posting at some other forum very prolifically?
And they let him do that on that other forum for a very long time. When they excluded him he immediately moved his prolific posting here. I cannot help but find all this suspicious.

I cannot recall, over the years that I have been following this forum, anyone posting like this. I think only people driven by some substantial agenda would do this. But of course I cannot be sure whether the agenda of the OP is to satisfy some burning desire just to show off, a Messiah complex or to seek some social acceptance, etc. or whether the agenda is a scam.

 

[syntynyt]

he doesn't sell any thing. if there is a scam and is psychologically, to make others to SEND MONEY as a gratitude for the working 'proven system', then HELL YEAH, let it be! let Darwin and its law do the job.
but this is not the case, all i see is some bothered users because the thread keep to show up in the feed, trying to make this look like a scam just to be closed coming back to boredom that was before this thread.
johhny boy, i like your posts but cut out the 'proven system' once in a while because is the least thing for which i read your posts, not being interested in this crap but in your stories.

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

Concerning VIDEOSLOTS

Yes that's about it Johnny. And Janek to be fair I don't actually think johnny is trying to scam anyone. If you read all his posts you will see he has never stated he can win at casinos. He is stating that in his mind his proven system is his way of dealing with his gambling. Instead of quitting like most would he believes he can deposit at 4 casinos so not to blow too much money andhe thinks he might win at them then he will cash out at certain points but if he loses he wont deposit at any other casino so keeping his gambling under control. Not by any means what I would call a proven system but at end of the day I might have many opinions on his ideas and postings but I do not think for one second he s trying to scam anyone and make money from people. I don't really think many members here do either and if Bryan had thought that im sure he would have banned him instantly instead of letting him keep posting. And as for promoting his fab4 you will now see he has for some reason included videoslots in it and if you check he has caused loads of problems for them and been banned because of his earlier posts on videoslots cheating him .

Paul it is true. Videoslots is the hand picked. Yes.

Tom Brady was almost picked last..........

Logic.

 

[mathsboy1975]

Paul it is true. Videoslots is the hand picked. Yes.

Tom Brady was almost picked last..........

Logic.

For what it is worth, at the very least I think that your staking approach and stopping criteria make for a pretty sensible strategy for controlled gambling within strict deposit limits (provided you can stick to it). I don't think it is the answer but as you are obviously resolved on this so all I can do is hope that you don't end up bankrupt any time soon.

Clearly the negativity you have attracted here does not faze you in the slightest bit, but I cannot help but feel that there would have been far less if you had listened to others posts more and maybe worded some key things differently.

I still do not know what to make of this thread to be honest and I don't THINK I will be participating in it again (although I said this before and failed in the attempt), so I will sign out by simply wishing you good luck Jonny

 

[catapultaudio]

I guess the name PROVEN SYSTEM is misleading!

If in websters dictionary. Here is the description.......

PROVEN SYSTEM: a method of controlling a compulsive gamblers actions. A way to take control of the fire raging inside a human that has be there for decades. Controlling one's brain activity and understanding the impact of an illness to loved ones. Preparing for the future with hope not to relapse to the fire within.

That is step 1

Yes its misleading, as you've already told us its yet to be proven and its not a system.

Are you actually going to respond to anything anybody writes or just planning to carry on talking to yourself?

 

[Jasminebed]

I'll just add my HIGH FIVE Johnny for not depositing today.

Only 5 more weeks to go. You want to learn to be a disciplined gambler, it is PROVEN if you don't deposit, you can't lose.

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

In some weird way....

Posting all the time here to this great thread has made me stronger.

Like I have been saying from the beginning. Gambling addiction is all psychological. 100%!

Somehow. I am beginning to believe the stuff I am posting. Yes much is far fetched and sounds ridiculous. I agree. But at the end of the day, I am getting stronger and stronger.

No deposit today or yesterday. Nada. No playing anything today. Nada!

Yes it was easier cause of my family obligations. I wouldn't have cracked anyway. I know me.

I am beginning to believe that PROVEN SYSTEM is reality. I am beginning to believe everything that I am saying. Everything. I am excited for the first time ever with online gaming.

People wishing me luck. Wishing me success. Ty. It's appreciated. I won't fail. No way.

Even if i go on a bad run, I won't panic. I will continue to set PRiorities.

Family first
Me second. Always.

 

[Vegasbum]

My Take


Johnny is not going to scam anyone...he is not that smart


His goal......to keep fools like me to keep posting and making this thread the most viewed and largest in CM history. You saw how excited he got when he reached 11,000 views and he even wanted this thread nominated for best thread (or some stupid thing like that).

so Johnny just keeps jabbing at us knowing we can't help but reply. That is what I believe is his main goal. We will see

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

Incorrect.

My Take


Johnny is not going to scam anyone...he is not that smart


His goal......to keep fools like me to keep posting and making this thread the most viewed and largest in CM history. You saw how excited he got when he reached 11,000 views and he even wanted this thread nominated for best thread (or some stupid thing like that).

so Johnny just keeps jabbing at us knowing we can't help but reply. That is what I believe is his main goal. We will see

I am smart. Smart enough to know when to develop a way to control my illness. Thanks for the insult!

Actually, useless posts like yours made this 11000+ views.

My quality posts are buried beneath riduculous posts like yours.

Better for u to read and learn from me. My experience may help you.

I learn from people everyday. Some people don't. Guess you are one of them.

How silent this thread would have been if everyone was perfect.

We all have much to learn. Anything that i can offer is a pleasure.

On a more serious note......

PROVEN SYSTEM is running perfectly day 2. Day 3 starts tomorrow.

Tomorrow will be a walk in the park for PROVEN SYSTEM. Day booked.

Monday will also be easy. Brain In total control. No urge at all. Wow. I am doing it!!!!!!

 

[Johnnygotthebon]

Important. Please what does this mean???

Just reading on the net to pass time.

What does this mean?


Slots RTP 4/10

((((( casino not to be named))))))). publish the house edge figures for all of their Net Entertainment slots games.

 

[pmutts]

It's Perfect!

I just noticed the three iPhones on the dash!!!!

Hahahahahanaahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

I think $500 Canadian would be more appropriate. Just my opinion.

 

[LuckyDalia26]

You want to learn to be a disciplined gambler, it is PROVEN if you don't deposit, you can't lose.

Very simple and true, in Johnny not depositing and playing he can't lose; in this aspect HE WINS both psychologically and financially by not giving into temptation of depositing, playing and possibly losing.

I see this thread as Johnny's way of dealing with a gambling problem that he is not in denial about (which is good) and it is helping him also make a commitment in not depositing and playing; it may also be therapeutic. Johnny's so called “PROVEN SYSTEM” is merely a label for something that helps him deal with this addiction and problem that he openly admits to having.

Coming forward on a public forum and making a promise and commitment to other forum members that he will not deposit and gamble is helping him have more willpower and determination to follow through on his word and not give into temptation. So in a way this thread is also therapeutic and I'm sure some others reading can probably relate to what he is going through on one level or another. Everyone has had to limit and control themselves at one point or another when it comes to gambling; especially when in most cases a player is down and losing trying to win back something they lost. lol

We all should have discipline and self-control when it comes to certain actions; especially when it comes to such things as online gaming, poker/gambling etc. I have my own system and limitations set for myself; we should all have limitations and self-control when it comes to gambling - unless someone has unlimited amounts of money and doesn't really care if they win or lose and plays for the fun & entertainment of it. (Vast majority would not fall under that category but many celebrities and CEO's would perhaps) lol

Even though all slot machines are random there are some slot machines that give the player a better chance of winning than others when it comes to lining something up for a big win or certain features in bonus and free spin rounds.

For example Immortal Romance, Thunderstruck II & The Finer Reels of life which are very similar when it comes to the bonus features. Each have the following bonus features to choose from after unlocking all features.


Feature #1
Immortal Romance: Amber 10 Free spins with multiplier X 5
Thunderstruck II: Valkyrie 10 Free spins with multiplier X 5
The Finer Reels of life: C & C 10 Free spins with multiplier X 5

Feature #2
Immortal Romance: 15 Free spins with random 2X and 3X with occasional up to 6X multiplier.
Thunderstruck II: 15 Free spins Wild Magic (Similar to wild vine/wild & cheese feature)
The Finer Reels of life: 15 free spins Wine & Cheese (similar to wild vine & wild magic feature)

Feature #3
Immortal Romance: 20 Free Spins Rolling Reels with Multipliers
Thunderstruck II: 20 Free Spins with random 2X and 3X with occasional up to 6X multiplier
The Finer Reels of life: 20 Free Spins with random 2X and 3X with occasional up to 6X multiplier

Feature #4
Immortal Romance: 25 Free spins Wild Vine feature (similar to wine/cheese & wild magic feature)
Thunderstruck II: 25 Free spins Rolling Reels with Multipliers
The Reels Of life 25 Free spins Rolling Reels with Multipliers

Question?
Let's say you are spinning at $3 a spin on each of the slot machines above and hit the bonus round. Which bonus feature would you choose and why?

Whatever it is you choose I am sure there is a reason you are picking one feature over another involving having a better chance of winning.

If someone says all slot machines are random and it doesn't make a difference what slot machines you play and that a player has the same chance of winning with one slot as all others it is only a half true statement.

It is true all slots are random however there are many strategies that a player can utilize to their own advantage to give them a better chance of winning. Avoiding 5 reel slot machines that have difficult pay lines to hit in most cases as they are extremely difficult in lining something up - Gold Factory for example can sometimes take ages to line something up as most other 5 reel pay line slots and a player has less chance of winning on some than others.

When I play, I selectively pick the slots that have the best chance of winning (from my own experience of playing nearly all of them) and choose the bonus features that give the best chance and odds to win. Now of course nothing is guaranteed when it comes to winning but a player can choose the highest possible best odds/payout slot machines that give the best chance to line something up along with the best possible bonus features and free spin rounds.

I'm adding a few dinky recent hits below for the heck of it on a few micro-gaming slots that I regularly play minus Jurassic Park which just came out.

For me personally I sometimes mess around at 0.30 to $1.50 per spin but when I have available funds and am willing to go for it I have upped the bet @ anywhere from $6-12 per spin depending on the machine and how I am doing.

Regardless of the amount that a person bets everyone should have self-control and discipline (and know when to STOP) and not play more than they can afford to lose; always putting family first and making their monthly living expense budget etc always a #1 first priority w/family.

Never risk and gamble money that you cannot afford to lose is rule #1 for me personally and should be the rule for everyone IMHO.

Playboy is one of my favorite slots by the way and I've hit quite a few MEGA wins on it since it first came out; below are a few dinky minor wins - nothing that impressive but adding them anyway



25 Free Spins - Wild Night feature @ $0.30



25 Free Spins - Wild Night feature @ $1.50



The Finer Reels Of Life @ $1.50



The Finer Reels Of Life @ $0.30



Jurassic Park @ $0.30

Hang in there Johnny until September; you can do it