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streaky BJ at captain cooks group

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by scrollock, Feb 9, 2005.

    Feb 9, 2005
  1. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    boro, uk
    has anyone suffered from an the extreme streakiness at the captain cooks group.

    my experiences so far,

    captain cooks, 200 bonus down to 50 after 500 hands, (somehow ended up finishing on 400!!!) all 1 a hand

    casino kigdom, 60 deposit gone after the first 57 hands at 1 a go, decided to do VP in bonus account because of this,hit 4 deuces and cashed out a 200 win

    casino classic, 205 bonus gone after 2000 lots of 1 hand of BJ,60 deposit gone after 500 hands.

    if, you go through the figures above you will see that i have actually came out ahead with group,so i suppose i cant say the software is rigged as i wouldnt of profited, but just as an unlikley as losing those deposits and bonuses in what is a relatively small number of hands is the fact that i turned a bonus which had decreased to 50 upto 400.
     
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  3. Agamemnon

    Agamemnon Dormant account

    Having played extensively at captain cook's I can't say I've ever noticed something out of the ordinary.
    Sure, there have been weird streaks but nothing worth writing home about or different to any BJ experience I've had at a land-based casino.
    Same goes for Video Poker.

    Also scrollock, I'd have to add that -in my experience- they rate as one of the best groups I've played at.
    Their reply speed to emails is amazing.
    It took them about 10 days to send into my bank acct a payment of about 3500$ but after that first delay I get my funds immediately.

    Having said all that, I don't know about their casino classic property anything however.

    Hope this was helpful.
     
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  5. Gluten

    Gluten Dormant account

    Occupation:
    My Job?
    Location:
    DK
    Based on my little knowledge og Microgaming software the operators are not capable of changing any inherent settings for the casino software.
    My experience with MG casinos so far have been pretty much up to par with the statistical expectation.

    scrollock, please be aware though that even though the software may not "cheat" the auto strategy for blackjack is flawed so that the house will get an an addtional higher edge if you do not change it. The is in my view quite deliberate and this IS cheating and it is defrauding many players. While the individual casinos cannor per se be held accountable for this "flaw", they could do a number of things to uphold their integrity by fx. informing players via their website to make the appropriate changes or write to Microgaming and demanding that they change the auto-strategy to the correct settings!

    Because of these cheating flaws I never play anything other than blackjack on auto-mode (after having made the changes myself). Simply because I do not trust the auto-strategy for other games, which I cannot change. Moreover, I cannot even see what strategy is employed!

    As I said this is DELIBERATE by Microgaming! Why? Because if it was not, they would have changed it already - the viper upgrade has been out for a long time - long enough time to patch!

    These are the changes you should make:
    Click on Expert, then Strategy, and set "Action = Hit" for Pair 7 vs. 8 and Pair 6 vs. 7 and "Else = Stand" for Soft 18 vss 4, 5 and 6, then Save and Close.

    Also check out wizard of odds for verification of above statement.
    Btw, if anyone knows of any changes to Spanish Blackjack, please lemme know - I love that game!
     
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  7. Vesuvio

    Vesuvio Dormant account

    Location:
    UK
    I agree with this completely. It doesn't say a lot for the on-line casino industry when the software company with the best reputation is openly cheating to increase the house edge for unsuspecting players. All the casinos that use Microgaming software are complicit in this, so perhaps Ed Ware or another representative of a well-run casino might like to explain why they haven't altered it? They can't possibly plead ignorance after the number of times it's been raised on here and elsewhere since Viper software was introduced.
    I think you also need to change the strategy for a pair of 9s as in some special cases the software's set to hit.

    p.s. I also think that although Microgaming gives the correct long term result it doesn't deal genuinely random cards (Mugwump's thread on RNGs is worth a read), but this isn't as clear cut, so I'd rather see if any casino wants to give a response to the completely open opportunism of having incorrect strategy settings.
     
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  9. 555YY

    555YY Dormant account

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    when was this?

    i sent emails to both cook and kingdom casino in the past few days and have YET to receive one reply back

    rather dissappointing as i have VIP status and have lost 4 digit figures in their casinos :(
     
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  11. Black21Jack

    Black21Jack Dormant account

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    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    According to the Wizard of Odds at You must register/login in order to see the link. and from myself checking the games the only ones that need to be changed are Vegas Strip and Atlantic City BJ. Atlantic City uses the same strategy as Vegas Strip except in some instances you surrender. Everything is set right in all the other blackjack variations except the few changes you mentioned need to be done in VS and AC.

    Which variation is this in? I just ran through the strategy in Strip, Spanish, Downtown, European and Atlantic and could not see this.
     
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  13. Vesuvio

    Vesuvio Dormant account

    Location:
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    In Vegas Strip it's set to 'split' if ...can't remember exactly... otherwise 'hit'. I'm not sure if the otherwise term ever comes into play, but it's safer to change it to 'stand'.
     
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  15. 555YY

    555YY Dormant account

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    yep its set to else=hit on pair of 9s vs 8 or 9

    the situation doesnt come up often, some rare instances of this can be resplitting to 4 hands and still catch a running 9 on the last split
     
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  17. Black21Jack

    Black21Jack Dormant account

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    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Pair of 9's vs. 8 and 9 is set to split otherwise hit in Vegas Strip but it is set to hit otherwise stand in Atlantic City. They are supposed to be set to the same except the few surrenders in Atlantic. I am really bothered by this, and the other wrong settings in VS and AC. I will be writing to MG to ask them what the hell is going on. Thanks for letting us know Vesuvio, I will also write Wiz as he does not have this listed.
     
  18. Feb 10, 2005
  19. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    Location:
    boro, uk
    i'm not complaining about the strategy as i'm fully aware of the changes that need to be made,or am i accusing the software of being fixed or tweaked after a big win, i would on the whole say over a 100,000 hands the software will run true to form and give the expected house edge, but what i am commenting on is, the way you can lose a 100 in 500 of wagering at 1/50p a go and, or even sometime 250 hands and then win make a 50 profit on the next 250 hands yourself, this just doesnt happen in real life.

    when i first started playing viper, on say a 100 deposit and 100 bonus, i would rarey see my stack vary by more than say 25+/- over say 3000 worth of wagering, but now i'm seeing my stack vary by 25+/- over 25 worth of wagering, and often seeing swings of 50 over 100 worth of wagering.
     

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