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snorky510238

snorky510238

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<div class="bbWrapper">Big bad wolf. I have commented on this slot before regarding the bonus round. It leaves me in no doubt it’s predetermined and extremely badly programmed. The issue in the bonus round is that every time you get to the third house where wins are x2 with 12+ spins it goes into death mode and kills them all for around x5. This has happened to me over and over again. It’s a game I like but I have got to the point where it has become so frustrating I have to chalk it off my list. That’s why I screenshot this as I advanced to the third house because I knew what was coming. I jumped the gun a bit because another 2 spins needed to be added making 13 and for some reason the final outcome didn’t come out.<a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/attachments/0187dc31-564e-4bb6-bf07-bf4e69bc706a-png.98002/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/data/attachments/63/63214-6aa58290ea2a4140e3b883c89ce31326.jpg" class="bbImage " style="" alt="0187DC31-564E-4BB6-BF07-BF4E69BC706A.png" title="0187DC31-564E-4BB6-BF07-BF4E69BC706A.png" width="100" height="56" loading="lazy" /></a>The final total was £31 and a few pence. I have lost count of the times this has happened but random not a prayer.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 46849" data-quote="snorky510238" data-source="post: 957476" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=957476" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-957476">snorky510238 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Big bad wolf. I have commented on this slot before regarding the bonus round. It leaves me in no doubt it’s predetermined and extremely badly programmed. The issue in the bonus round is that every time you get to the third house where wins are x2 with 12+ spins it goes into death mode and kills them all for around x5. This has happened to me over and over again. It’s a game I like but I have got to the point where it has become so frustrating I have to chalk it off my list. That’s why I screenshot this as I advanced to the third house because I knew what was coming. I jumped the gun a bit because another 2 spins needed to be added making 13 and for some reason the final outcome didn’t come out.<a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/attachments/98002/" target="_blank">View attachment 98002</a>The final total was £31 and a few pence. I have lost count of the times this has happened but random not a prayer. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> I can&#039;t comment as I don&#039;t play it - the theme is far too adult for me.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 36102" data-quote="Jono777" data-source="post: 957479" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=957479" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-957479">Jono777 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Not very much help from me either sorry.<br /> <br /> &#039;Quickspin&#039; says it all really! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You’re not wrong there!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 16800" data-quote="dionysus" data-source="post: 957483" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=957483" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-957483">dionysus said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> id suspect more than predetermined, it has a different reel set for each house<br /> <br /> i get the same thing - hit the x2..bam, losing spins </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>That can be the only explanation yet it’s visible that the reels speed up a little and just slam in the losers.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 40684" data-quote="colinsunderland" data-source="post: 957485" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=957485" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-957485">colinsunderland said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;ve had the misfortune of playing this a couple of times in the casumo races, never again, its shite. Makes starburst seem exciting. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yet wasn’t it slot of the year or achieved some accolade I think.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">These bonuses, I dunno. Playing the Pimped Freeroll the other day, at a strategic 1-line, 10-coin denomination, base game wins were somewhat at a premium to put it mildly. Though it&#039;s a popular tactic to (hopefully) get that big win strewn across the middle reel for all-or-nothing glory.<br /> <br /> Managing to get three scatters, I went into the bonus. Now the game may well have a different reel strip but the amount of 1-line 3OAKs I was getting was ridiculous, something that would never happen in the main game. It was surreal. 3 Js...3 Js....3 Ks....ooh look another 3 Ks <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek2:" title="Eek2 :eek2:" data-shortname=":eek2:" /><br /> <br /> Makes one wonder how many games are already more scratchcard-ey than slot, just that some mask it better than others <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek2:" title="Eek2 :eek2:" data-shortname=":eek2:" /><br /> <br /> Oh and I finished about 550th in the Battle <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28528" data-quote="goatwack" data-source="post: 957532" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=957532" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-957532">goatwack said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> These bonuses, I dunno. Playing the Pimped Freeroll the other day, at a strategic 1-line, 10-coin denomination, base game wins were somewhat at a premium to put it mildly. Though it&#039;s a popular tactic to (hopefully) get that big win strewn across the middle reel for all-or-nothing glory.<br /> <br /> Managing to get three scatters, I went into the bonus. Now the game may well have a different reel strip but the amount of 1-line 3OAKs I was getting was ridiculous, something that would never happen in the main game. It was surreal. 3 Js...3 Js....3 Ks....ooh look another 3 Ks <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek2:" title="Eek2 :eek2:" data-shortname=":eek2:" /><br /> <br /> Makes one wonder how many games are already more scratchcard-ey than slot, just that some mask it better than others <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek2:" title="Eek2 :eek2:" data-shortname=":eek2:" /><br /> <br /> Oh and I finished about 550th in the Battle <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Doesn’t Pimped have a guaranteed win on every spin when you get the bonus. every spin is a winning spin. <br /> 3OAK is the lowest win possible so I guess they’d give you those for guaranteed win.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 46849" data-quote="snorky510238" data-source="post: 957490" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=957490" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-957490">snorky510238 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Yet wasn’t it slot of the year or achieved some accolade I think. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>So did spinata grande .. so thats all you need to know about those awards</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 40549" data-quote="SlotGrinder" data-source="post: 957603" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=957603" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-957603">SlotGrinder said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> So did spinata grande .. so thats all you need to know about those awards </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Wow were there no other entries<img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" />.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Around 2 years ago I saw on the internet a similar info about the Big Bad Wolf and the Quickspin games in general. That bonus game is just a cartoon and the winning amount is predetermined right after the 3 scatters appear! Regarding the stage with the multiplier of x2, you are not the only one! I guess in this case empty spins get almost every player.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 12338" data-quote="aceking123" data-source="post: 957642" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=957642" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-957642">aceking123 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Its sadly not the only slot what does this you can add many more that do the same (( </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes for sure it just must be bad programming as in you always hit the predetermined amount with a lot of spins left so it stands out like a sore thumb</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">love the game, had many great balance saving and balance boosting returns from it, but I just commented today on the very same thing, it&#039;s just to be expected as soon as the x2 hits, dead spins incoming, bonus round over.. even when you hit it with 30 spins.. tested repeatedly, over and over and over, never seen any other result.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/attachments/screenshot_2018-08-02-quickspin-big-bad-wolf-play-for-free-or-real-money-at-house-of-jack-png.98141/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/data/attachments/63/63353-aaa16996c68cbfe6fc2e3b93facc3579.jpg" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Screenshot_2018-08-02 Quickspin Big Bad Wolf Play for FREE or Real Money at House of Jack.png" title="Screenshot_2018-08-02 Quickspin Big Bad Wolf Play for FREE or Real Money at House of Jack.png" width="100" height="56" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Gave it a rest for a while and decided to give it another try. <a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/attachments/d0ed718a-4495-47ba-9ec4-7ae48bcd7d7c-png.107720/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/data/attachments/72/72933-d74cebdc754458982c1f927d1f93708d.jpg" class="bbImage " style="" alt="D0ED718A-4495-47BA-9EC4-7AE48BCD7D7C.png" title="D0ED718A-4495-47BA-9EC4-7AE48BCD7D7C.png" width="100" height="56" loading="lazy" /></a> I was so pissed off I forgot the end screen shot. £55.40 pff.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 46849" data-quote="snorky510238" data-source="post: 1007884" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1007884" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1007884">snorky510238 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Gave it a rest for a while and decided to give it another try. <a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/attachments/107720/" target="_blank">View attachment 107720</a> I was so pissed off I forgot the end screen shot. £55.40 pff. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I wouldn’t be complaining about landing +100x features tbh</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">13 spins left that paid £2.20 I could live with it once or twice but 7 or 8 times in a row and the same outcome is just bs.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I noticed the same thing!! I&#039;ve reached the 3rd house 10+ times and every. single. time. without. one. single. exception, I get nothing from it. And I was just thinking about this yesterday, because I&#039;ve been staying away from this slot for the past months after seeing its RTP on slot tracker be like 93% over hundreds of thousands of spins. But I played it again yesterday for a casumo reel race and of course it took me into the 3rd house and did nothing again.<br /> <br /> Obviously, the outcome has got to always be pre-decided on games that could go on forever, but it just bugs me that getting into the 3rd house is absolutely no indication that your win will get bigger than otherwise.<br /> <br /> PS. I hope I didn&#039;t summon tracemonkey now that I mentioned Big Bad Wolf&#039;s recorded RTP being significantly lower than what they promise over hundreds of thousands of spins. I wanna clarify that it&#039;s obviously just a never ending coincidence that the RTP never moves any closer to 97.34%, and permanently stays 4-5 percentages below its promised RTP in this low-variance game over the hundreds of thousands of community recorded spins <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">That’s the problem in a bonus round you want to advance as far as possible to maximise your winnings but with this slot you are praying not to advance to the 3rd house because it will just wipe you out. By the way how the hell would this get passed as fair during the “rigorous lab testing”.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 46849" data-quote="snorky510238" data-source="post: 1007935" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1007935" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1007935">snorky510238 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> That’s the problem in a bonus round you want to advance as far as possible to maximise your winnings but with this slot you are praying not to advance to the 3rd house because it will just wipe you out. By the way how the hell would this get passed as fair during the “rigorous lab testing”. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> As it is a feature, they can (if they wish) use different reel bands in the last level. They will have to anyway as moons have to disappear from the reels.<br /> <br /> Given how it plays, that&#039;s almost certainly what the game is doing. Now, would I make a game where getting to the top makes the game suddenly feel like crap... no of course not. It is bad maths design, but it is legal to do so. <br /> <br /> Whether a game is good to play or not is not something that is tested for. Whether it is legal or not is the only question (and whether it is morally offensive..)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31691" data-quote="trancemonkey" data-source="post: 1007944" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1007944" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1007944">trancemonkey said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> As it is a feature, they can (if they wish) use different reel bands in the last level. They will have to anyway as moons have to disappear from the reels.<br /> <br /> Given how it plays, that&#039;s almost certainly what the game is doing. Now, would I make a game where getting to the top makes the game suddenly feel like crap... no of course not. It is bad maths design, but it is legal to do so.<br /> <br /> Whether a game is good to play or not is not something that is tested for. Whether it is legal or not is the only question (and whether it is morally offensive..) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I am sure if you saw this game before release as a developer/provider you would say hold on we need to change something here. It’s just blatantly obvious. I have got a bit more to add but I will post it on your ask me anything thread as it’s more of a generalisation question.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Said it before but dunno how Quickspin have got away with their designs and math models for so long, nor how they retain any sort of player base. Must be legal but compared to other providers they&#039;re like the Duplo or Peppa Pig Play figures of the slotting world <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></div>
 

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