Rules and reg`s not just restricted to online casinos.

[Seventh777]

So there I was watching some early morning TV, this time of day customs related genres are very popular, anyway`s I was watching the New Zealand based one - Passport Control. A plane had just landed from L.A. and as the passengers were leaving the plane they were offered an apple in a sealed bag each, everyone whom accepted this and did not think of declaring it (and there was loads of them) were hit with a fine of $200 each as they entered the passport control section, in their defence and rightly so the average passenger`s pleas to this was...

`Why the hell did they give us the fruit knowing full well, that at the very least it would be confiscated as soon as we entered customs?`.

Now i`m all for each and every product entering a new country to be subjected to some strict quarantine procedures, but, come on, these fines when issued, are issued entirely due to the custom officer`s discretion, there was no hidden agenda here, just a lot of travel weary passengers not even thinking that these would be considered illegal contraband as they were given by the planes crew, tbh I was gob-smacked enough to make a thread here about it lol.

On the other hand I have watched several episodes of Nothing To Declare (Australia), where many passengers deemed to have made genuine mistakes with none declared food items, have escaped with nothing more than a caution.

 

[Nifty29]

So there I was watching some early morning TV, this time of day customs related genres are very popular, anyway`s I was watching the New Zealand based one - Passport Control. A plane had just landed from L.A. and as the passengers were leaving the plane they were offered an apple in a sealed bag each, everyone whom accepted this and did not think of declaring it (and there was loads of them) were hit with a fine of $200 each as they entered the passport control section, in their defence and rightly so the average passenger`s pleas to this was...

`Why the hell did they give us the fruit knowing full well, that at the very least it would be confiscated as soon as we entered customs?`.

Now i`m all for each and every product entering a new country to be subjected to some strict quarantine procedures, but, come on, these fines when issued, are issued entirely due to the custom officer`s discretion, there was no hidden agenda here, just a lot of travel weary passengers not even thinking that these would be considered illegal contraband as they were given by the planes crew, tbh I was gob-smacked enough to make a thread here about it lol.

On the other hand I have watched several episodes of Nothing To Declare (Australia), where many passengers deemed to have made genuine mistakes with none declared food items, have escaped with nothing more than a caution.

The problem in NZ is that its a mandatory fine. The officers have no discretion, unlike Australia.

Primary production is the backbone of NZ so they take biosecurity very seriously.

When you sign the incoming passenger card you are making a statutory declaration, so any lie you tell, intentionally or otherwise, is an offence. I actually think that discretionary powers as they are here are good, however I feel that penalties should be far greater for deoiberate attempts to bring in goods, and for repeat offenders and frequent travelers who should know better. Fines of $2000+ or deportation or incarceration are in order IMO.

It appears, by far, that the main offenders are from Asian countries. It's also interesting how many claim they don't speak/understand English, until a fine is mentioned and they defend themselves with an instant linguistic improvement.....

 

[Seventh777]

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, I personally think that those who smuggle live exotic animals should be subjected to the exact same conditions, man`s greed makes my blood boil .

 

[vinylweatherman]

So there I was watching some early morning TV, this time of day customs related genres are very popular, anyway`s I was watching the New Zealand based one - Passport Control. A plane had just landed from L.A. and as the passengers were leaving the plane they were offered an apple in a sealed bag each, everyone whom accepted this and did not think of declaring it (and there was loads of them) were hit with a fine of $200 each as they entered the passport control section, in their defence and rightly so the average passenger`s pleas to this was...

`Why the hell did they give us the fruit knowing full well, that at the very least it would be confiscated as soon as we entered customs?`.

Now i`m all for each and every product entering a new country to be subjected to some strict quarantine procedures, but, come on, these fines when issued, are issued entirely due to the custom officer`s discretion, there was no hidden agenda here, just a lot of travel weary passengers not even thinking that these would be considered illegal contraband as they were given by the planes crew, tbh I was gob-smacked enough to make a thread here about it lol.

On the other hand I have watched several episodes of Nothing To Declare (Australia), where many passengers deemed to have made genuine mistakes with none declared food items, have escaped with nothing more than a caution.

I wouldn't bank on it.

Traffic Wardens here are much criticised because they are driven by targets in some areas, and their jobs are at risk if they do not issue a certain number of fines. If motorists don't misbehave, these wardens have to be inventive, and issue tickets when normally they wouldn't. They even resort to trickery, such as deliberately setting up a situation that might fool motorists into breaking the law.

This case looks highly suspicious. The flight crew were the kind of "regular traveller" who should know about this, yet they engineered the situation to maximise the potential to generate fines.

1) They waited till the flight was over (making sure the apples didn't get eaten in flight).
2) They used a sealed bag, indicating to passengers it was "for later" so that they would very likely think to eat it after they had gone through passport control.
3) They "forgot" to give the passengers the most critical piece of information they could ever need regarding that apple.
4) The gift was completely pointless anyway, since if declared, it would be confiscated, thus no passenger would ever get to eat their apple.

Further, this action by the flight crew puts at grave risk the purity of agriculture, as it relies on customs discovering the apple. Passengers behind in the queue would see how the apple was being treated by customs, and may decide it was "petty", and say they ate the apple on the plane rather than pay $200, or even refused the gift. Unless customs are searching every passenger for apples, some are bound to slip through.

What they should REALLY be doing is fining the airlines for giving the apples out, and this makes sense as the most effective way to prevent apples slipping past customs.

Unless of course we have the hidden agenda. An unwritten agreement between the flight crew and customs officers who have a target to rake in a minimum amount in fines, where the flight crew get a "back hander" to set the situation up, and customs officers get to pad their performance with $200 fines for apples.

This is actually pretty close to how the online casinos sometimes set up a situation that allows them to screw over a player. No matter how vigilant one is, one cannot know everything. It may be apples in New Zealand, but in Saudi Arabia, medicine prescribed by your doctor can get you 5 years in jail, even if you took your last dose at home, and the only signs are what is left in your bloodstream. In fact, many over the counter products that one might buy for a holiday can get you jailed in Saudi Arabia.

 

[Seventh777]

I wouldn't bank on it.

Traffic Wardens here are much criticised because they are driven by targets in some areas, and their jobs are at risk if they do not issue a certain number of fines. If motorists don't misbehave, these wardens have to be inventive, and issue tickets when normally they wouldn't. They even resort to trickery, such as deliberately setting up a situation that might fool motorists into breaking the law.

This case looks highly suspicious. The flight crew were the kind of "regular traveller" who should know about this, yet they engineered the situation to maximise the potential to generate fines.

1) They waited till the flight was over (making sure the apples didn't get eaten in flight).
2) They used a sealed bag, indicating to passengers it was "for later" so that they would very likely think to eat it after they had gone through passport control.
3) They "forgot" to give the passengers the most critical piece of information they could ever need regarding that apple.
4) The gift was completely pointless anyway, since if declared, it would be confiscated, thus no passenger would ever get to eat their apple.

Further, this action by the flight crew puts at grave risk the purity of agriculture, as it relies on customs discovering the apple. Passengers behind in the queue would see how the apple was being treated by customs, and may decide it was "petty", and say they ate the apple on the plane rather than pay $200, or even refused the gift. Unless customs are searching every passenger for apples, some are bound to slip through.

What they should REALLY be doing is fining the airlines for giving the apples out, and this makes sense as the most effective way to prevent apples slipping past customs.

Unless of course we have the hidden agenda. An unwritten agreement between the flight crew and customs officers who have a target to rake in a minimum amount in fines, where the flight crew get a "back hander" to set the situation up, and customs officers get to pad their performance with $200 fines for apples.

This is actually pretty close to how the online casinos sometimes set up a situation that allows them to screw over a player. No matter how vigilant one is, one cannot know everything. It may be apples in New Zealand, but in Saudi Arabia, medicine prescribed by your doctor can get you 5 years in jail, even if you took your last dose at home, and the only signs are what is left in your bloodstream. In fact, many over the counter products that one might buy for a holiday can get you jailed in Saudi Arabia.

Yep, it does seem somewhat shady, i`ve been on several flights and to the best of my knowledge i`ve never been offered perishable food Per Se. These none profitable but needy services have to generate some form of revenue, and there`s no better way than fining people.

As far as traffic wardens go, a few months ago I was walking down a very quiet (traffic wise) road near where I live, and a friend I hadn`t seen for ages drove by and stopped a few yards away (engine still running), we were catching up on past events etc and a warden popped out from nowhere and started writing her a ticket, being the feisty scouse lass that she is, she let him write out the ticket, noticed it was for parking and not an obstruction offence, waived her nurse on call badge at him, let rip with some expletives that would embarrass an Irish navvy and drove off, to which the arrogant smug grinned bastard said `Let`s see how she gets on with the rude and abusive language`, and I hastily replied with an even bigger smug grin `She was talking to me`.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Yep, it does seem somewhat shady, i`ve been on several flights and to the best of my knowledge i`ve never been offered perishable food Per Se. These none profitable but needy services have to generate some form of revenue, and there`s no better way than fining people.

As far as traffic wardens go, a few months ago I was walking down a very quiet (traffic wise) road near where I live, and a friend I hadn`t seen for ages drove by and stopped a few yards away (engine still running), we were catching up on past events etc and a warden popped out from nowhere and started writing her a ticket, being the feisty scouse lass that she is, she let him write out the ticket, noticed it was for parking and not an obstruction offence, waived her nurse on call badge at him, let rip with some expletives that would embarrass an Irish navvy and drove off, to which the arrogant smug grinned bastard said `Let`s see how she gets on with the rude and abusive language`, and I hastily replied with an even bigger smug grin `She was talking to me`.

Your friend had not "parked", merely "stopped". A parking fine would not survive an appeal. The restriction would have to be "no stopping" or "no waiting". "parking" would occur only when the vehicle is left unattended, else it is "waiting". Even double yellow lines allow for "waiting" for a couple of minutes for the purpose of loading and unloading passengers, unless there is a specific "no loading" additional restriction, often indicated by extra markings on the curb, and an additional sign under the usual parking restriction sign.

I expect the street was merely "no parking", but the warden had been having a bad day because your friend was the closest chance they had seen for a while to issue a ticket. If the ticket is paid, rather than appealed, it counts towards the targets.

A number of councils have said they are now removing all their speed cameras because they are costing more to maintain than they make in fines. When they were put in, they were "safety cameras", designed to make the roads safer, with the fines being an encouragement for offenders to be more careful in future. Now that motorists ARE being more careful, "safety" is less of a concern all of a sudden, and what was once deemed "necessary" on safety grounds is no longer considered worth having. The problem with this thinking is that those motorists that have learned the hard way are being replaced by new drivers who may be in need of such a lesson, but they won't be getting it in some places. This means that removing the cameras will result in speeding on that stretch of road to increase again to the levels where it was originally deemed so dangerous that they had no choice but to put a camera in. If accident figures show this has actually happened, a council could find itself having to answer some hard questions. They could even end up getting sued by relatives who believe the removal of a "safety camera" was responsible for making a stretch of road so dangerous that someone got killed again after a long period of no deaths whilst a camera was in place.

It's bad enough already that many motorists see fines as "just another tax", and this attitude has lead to motorists, mainly company drivers, committing offenses if they believe the fine if caught is less than the money saved or made by committing the offence, rather than working to the rules. Many companies tell their drivers not to worry about the parking tickets, the company will pay, and to park where they have to in order to get the job done as efficiently as possible.

 

[Seventh777]

Your friend had not "parked", merely "stopped". A parking fine would not survive an appeal. The restriction would have to be "no stopping" or "no waiting". "parking" would occur only when the vehicle is left unattended, else it is "waiting". Even double yellow lines allow for "waiting" for a couple of minutes for the purpose of loading and unloading passengers, unless there is a specific "no loading" additional restriction, often indicated by extra markings on the curb, and an additional sign under the usual parking restriction sign.

I expect the street was merely "no parking", but the warden had been having a bad day because your friend was the closest chance they had seen for a while to issue a ticket. If the ticket is paid, rather than appealed, it counts towards the targets.

A number of councils have said they are now removing all their speed cameras because they are costing more to maintain than they make in fines. When they were put in, they were "safety cameras", designed to make the roads safer, with the fines being an encouragement for offenders to be more careful in future. Now that motorists ARE being more careful, "safety" is less of a concern all of a sudden, and what was once deemed "necessary" on safety grounds is no longer considered worth having. The problem with this thinking is that those motorists that have learned the hard way are being replaced by new drivers who may be in need of such a lesson, but they won't be getting it in some places. This means that removing the cameras will result in speeding on that stretch of road to increase again to the levels where it was originally deemed so dangerous that they had no choice but to put a camera in. If accident figures show this has actually happened, a council could find itself having to answer some hard questions. They could even end up getting sued by relatives who believe the removal of a "safety camera" was responsible for making a stretch of road so dangerous that someone got killed again after a long period of no deaths whilst a camera was in place.

It's bad enough already that many motorists see fines as "just another tax", and this attitude has lead to motorists, mainly company drivers, committing offenses if they believe the fine if caught is less than the money saved or made by committing the offence, rather than working to the rules. Many companies tell their drivers not to worry about the parking tickets, the company will pay, and to park where they have to in order to get the job done as efficiently as possible.

All around the area I live is residents only parking, the warden is a complete ass tbh.

 

[vinylweatherman]

All around the area I live is residents only parking, the warden is a complete ass tbh.

What about stopping and waiting?

What about when residents have to call a plumber, have shopping delivered, etc? Such businesses either have to take the risk, or refuse to serve the area. This could make residents wish they had not been given the protection of their spaces through such a scheme.

As a builder yourself, what do you do if a customer wants you to do a job for them, but you find the nearest you can park your van is "miles away" in another street, having to carry everything on foot to the house. Do you

1) Refuse the work
2) Accept you will be doing loads of walking
3) Take the risk, and play cat & mouse with the wardens whilst doing the job.
4) Some other solution I didn't think of.

 

[Seventh777]

What about stopping and waiting?

What about when residents have to call a plumber, have shopping delivered, etc? Such businesses either have to take the risk, or refuse to serve the area. This could make residents wish they had not been given the protection of their spaces through such a scheme.

As a builder yourself, what do you do if a customer wants you to do a job for them, but you find the nearest you can park your van is "miles away" in another street, having to carry everything on foot to the house. Do you

1) Refuse the work
2) Accept you will be doing loads of walking
3) Take the risk, and play cat & mouse with the wardens whilst doing the job.
4) Some other solution I didn't think of.

Resident parking zones have a daily ticket available that you buy from the council that issue them, these are for any type of visitors and are similar to lottery tickets with the silver covering you scratch off (31 squares for the days and 12 for months)....

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[Realitybitez]

So there I was watching some early morning TV, this time of day customs related genres are very popular, anyway`s I was watching the New Zealand based one - Passport Control. A plane had just landed from L.A. and as the passengers were leaving the plane they were offered an apple in a sealed bag each, everyone whom accepted this and did not think of declaring it (and there was loads of them) were hit with a fine of $200 each as they entered the passport control section, in their defence and rightly so the average passenger`s pleas to this was...

`Why the hell did they give us the fruit knowing full well, that at the very least it would be confiscated as soon as we entered customs?`.

Now i`m all for each and every product entering a new country to be subjected to some strict quarantine procedures, but, come on, these fines when issued, are issued entirely due to the custom officer`s discretion, there was no hidden agenda here, just a lot of travel weary passengers not even thinking that these would be considered illegal contraband as they were given by the planes crew, tbh I was gob-smacked enough to make a thread here about it lol.

On the other hand I have watched several episodes of Nothing To Declare (Australia), where many passengers deemed to have made genuine mistakes with none declared food items, have escaped with nothing more than a caution.

I'd sue the airline. I cant see how, they couldnt know. Especially if they've done this trip a number of times.

Definately dodgy

Not one of our airlines I hope

 

[vinylweatherman]

Resident parking zones have a daily ticket available that you buy from the council that issue them, these are for any type of visitors and are similar to lottery tickets with the silver covering you scratch off (31 squares for the days and 12 for months)....

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That's fine for your area, but I don't think other councils necessarily offer such a service. Businesses local to an area would know about such schemes, but businesses further away may not, and it is even less likely that visitors to a household from a different council area would have any idea about such a scheme, and how to use it, unless they were told about it in advance.

Can residents buy a small stock of these tickets, and issue them to their visitors on the spot, scratching off the day & month as necessary.

The London congestion charge is not all that friendly for occasional visitors, as it doen't cater for spontaneous decisions. One either has to buy a ticket in advance, and once bought, you have to use it on the chosen date or lose it. Whilst you can also buy one after you enter the zone, again you only have a very short window in which to do so before the charges double. Last time I checked, it was up to midnight on the day, and had to be paid online or over the phone. This meant that not only did you have to get back home before then from London, you had to deal with it straight away when you probably just wanted to go to bed, rather than deal with it the following day as part of your normal routine.
There isn't even a "pay as you go" scheme open to ordinary motorists whereby you don't have to worry about making the payment, it is deducted automatically whenever you become liable.

At least the national proposals for road pricing were looking at such "pay as you go" technology, rather than erecting numerous toll barriers, or having many outlets selling credits or tickets.

Oddly enough, a "pay as you go" scheme would have the benefit of motorists never falling foul of the rules, no matter how complicated, and no additional income would be generated from fines. This could be WHY such schemes have been rejected for the London congestion charge, and the other pilot schemes that were put in place after this.

Road pricing was meant to replace road tax and petrol tax, and could very easily be extended to parking charges. Non payment of charges would be dealt with in the same way as non payment of taxes and fines, and the state could impound the vehicles of persistent offenders. It would save on the cost of administering and policing the current system, and now that the motor insurance database is fully operational, the annual document check that used to be done when you bought car tax at the post office is no longer necessary. In fact, it was this database that allowed car tax to be sold online, yet retain the checks on MOT and insurance, which is how I have been paying this tax for some years.

You can even get "pay as you go" insurance from a few companies.

 

[Seventh777]

Can residents buy a small stock of these tickets, and issue them to their visitors on the spot, scratching off the day & month as necessary.

Yep, and this is open to all sorts of abuse .

 

[Nifty29]

That's fine for your area, but I don't think other councils necessarily offer such a service. Businesses local to an area would know about such schemes, but businesses further away may not, and it is even less likely that visitors to a household from a different council area would have any idea about such a scheme, and how to use it, unless they were told about it in advance.

Can residents buy a small stock of these tickets, and issue them to their visitors on the spot, scratching off the day & month as necessary.

The London congestion charge is not all that friendly for occasional visitors, as it doen't cater for spontaneous decisions. One either has to buy a ticket in advance, and once bought, you have to use it on the chosen date or lose it. Whilst you can also buy one after you enter the zone, again you only have a very short window in which to do so before the charges double. Last time I checked, it was up to midnight on the day, and had to be paid online or over the phone. This meant that not only did you have to get back home before then from London, you had to deal with it straight away when you probably just wanted to go to bed, rather than deal with it the following day as part of your normal routine.
There isn't even a "pay as you go" scheme open to ordinary motorists whereby you don't have to worry about making the payment, it is deducted automatically whenever you become liable.

At least the national proposals for road pricing were looking at such "pay as you go" technology, rather than erecting numerous toll barriers, or having many outlets selling credits or tickets.

Oddly enough, a "pay as you go" scheme would have the benefit of motorists never falling foul of the rules, no matter how complicated, and no additional income would be generated from fines. This could be WHY such schemes have been rejected for the London congestion charge, and the other pilot schemes that were put in place after this.

Road pricing was meant to replace road tax and petrol tax, and could very easily be extended to parking charges. Non payment of charges would be dealt with in the same way as non payment of taxes and fines, and the state could impound the vehicles of persistent offenders. It would save on the cost of administering and policing the current system, and now that the motor insurance database is fully operational, the annual document check that used to be done when you bought car tax at the post office is no longer necessary. In fact, it was this database that allowed car tax to be sold online, yet retain the checks on MOT and insurance, which is how I have been paying this tax for some years.

You can even get "pay as you go" insurance from a few companies.

You should just count yourself lucky that Bryan didn't introduce the Forum Congestion Charge...

 

[vinylweatherman]

Yep, and this is open to all sorts of abuse .

It depends on how many can be bought at once, or in total. Clearly a resident could make a fortune by selling on the tickets to commuters if there are no checks being made.

 

[vinylweatherman]

You should just count yourself lucky that Bryan didn't introduce the Forum Congestion Charge...

I would simply be verbose outside of peak times

 

[Seventh777]

I would simply be verbose outside of peak times

Hit that button godammit

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/two-euro-bet-wins-€6-9-million.48348/

 

[Nifty29]

Hit that button godammit

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/two-euro-bet-wins-€6-9-million.48348/

Come on Vinyl......time to face the music.

Why don't you use the thanks button? Surely you appreciate other member's input at times? You must learn stuff from other members? It's just very odd that someone as prolific as yourself wouldn't acknowledge the experiences of those who share them. In fact, I can't even recall where you even thanked someone in your replies etc, which I.know a few prefer to do rather than, or in addition to, using the thanks button.

It's even stranger given that you're frequently thanked.

So...what gives??

 

[samoas]

See vinyl? It's really not that dfficult!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Come on Vinyl......time to face the music.

Why don't you use the thanks button? Surely you appreciate other member's input at times? You must learn stuff from other members? It's just very odd that someone as prolific as yourself wouldn't acknowledge the experiences of those who share them. In fact, I can't even recall where you even thanked someone in your replies etc, which I.know a few prefer to do rather than, or in addition to, using the thanks button.

It's even stranger given that you're frequently thanked.

So...what gives??

My mouse won't allow it. It's a "work to rule" in support of my keyboard. I can't risk a total "down tools". My D: drive simply quit last year, not even having the good grace to serve 1 months notice. It took a few of my documents with it, and I still haven't got some of them back.

If I suddenly start thanking every Aussie and Builder that comes along, people will think my account has been hacked

 

[chuchu59]

So there I was watching some early morning TV, this time of day customs related genres are very popular, anyway`s I was watching the New Zealand based one - Passport Control. A plane had just landed from L.A. and as the passengers were leaving the plane they were offered an apple in a sealed bag each, everyone whom accepted this and did not think of declaring it (and there was loads of them) were hit with a fine of $200 each as they entered the passport control section, in their defence and rightly so the average passenger`s pleas to this was...

`Why the hell did they give us the fruit knowing full well, that at the very least it would be confiscated as soon as we entered customs?`.

Now i`m all for each and every product entering a new country to be subjected to some strict quarantine procedures, but, come on, these fines when issued, are issued entirely due to the custom officer`s discretion, there was no hidden agenda here, just a lot of travel weary passengers not even thinking that these would be considered illegal contraband as they were given by the planes crew, tbh I was gob-smacked enough to make a thread here about it lol.

On the other hand I have watched several episodes of Nothing To Declare (Australia), where many passengers deemed to have made genuine mistakes with none declared food items, have escaped with nothing more than a caution.

If they had thrown the apple away they would be fined for littering.

 

[vinylweatherman]

If they had thrown the apple away they would be fined for littering.

Not if they used a bin.

A fine for littering may have been less.

 

[IanO]

It depends on how many can be bought at once, or in total. Clearly a resident could make a fortune by selling on the tickets to commuters if there are no checks being made.

ahhh yes, but then that person runs the risk of being labelled an 'advantage parker', or even worse... a 'Parking abuser' !! They might get their original car back but all other cars parked will be confiscated until you send it copies of your passport etc etc... you see where I'm going with this

 

[samoas]

I feel so honored.:yahoo:

HAHA NIFTY!!!

 

[samoas]

See vinyl? It's really not that dfficult!

P.S Thank you for the support Seventh777

 

[Seventh777]

P.S Thank you for the support Seventh777

Hehe, yw .

 

[mattsgame]

Come on Vinyl......time to face the music.

Why don't you use the thanks button? Surely you appreciate other member's input at times? You must learn stuff from other members? It's just very odd that someone as prolific as yourself wouldn't acknowledge the experiences of those who share them. In fact, I can't even recall where you even thanked someone in your replies etc, which I.know a few prefer to do rather than, or in addition to, using the thanks button.

It's even stranger given that you're frequently thanked.

So...what gives??

You do realise that for every "Thanks" VWM gives we are missing out on a 100+ word reply right? the man has no time to be thanking!!!

So glad everyone can take this so light hearted.

 

[Seventh777]

You do realise that for every "Thanks" VWM gives we are missing out on a 100+ word reply right? the man has no time to be thanking!!!

So glad everyone can take this so light hearted.

We love him to bits really, he has a very wicked sense of humour underneath all that official jargon, which leads me to a `I wonder what he`s like in real life moment` each time I read his posts, as he is kinda our resident QC the only other resident lawyer that springs to my mind as a comparison is Ted from Scrubs, so from this day forward he will be known as Ted - conqueror of the Fruities .

 

[vinylweatherman]

You do realise that for every "Thanks" VWM gives we are missing out on a 100+ word reply right? the man has no time to be thanking!!!

So glad everyone can take this so light hearted.

I think you might have a problem with your spelling, it's spelt "10000+"