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Go completely overboard with the whole AML thing, noseying into the average player's bank statements yet manage to balls up a basic and fundamental KYC check. Christ 

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on the holding it, I do see the merit in that one; I've seen lots of ID uploads that look like a 2 dimensional object readily made or altered in something as basic as paint..if the demand is to hold it beside you grinning, in front of your house number, then ya, what's the point as they likely can't read the id details anywayI know there are rules but personally I dont mind if they do not request for documents when I start depositing because I am very eager to play. We need to be wary of casinos that abnormal verification requests eg. a selfie of you holding your ID card or insisting on a passport by saying your id card is not proof of residence.
Good evening,
We utilize partial verification based on age and ID that is required by the UKGC within 72 hours after the first deposit. At Rizk this is done electronically via a system called Aristotle that is approved by the UKGC. After a user reaches a certain amount of deposits and/or withdrawals, we require full verification (ID, proof of address, used payment methods) in line with the regulations set out by the UKGC.
Only in cases where the automated Aristotle verification would not find a match, the account would be restricted directly and we would require an ID and a proof of address right away.
Hopefully this answers your questions, please feel free to reach out to us in live chat for a faster help or shoot me your questions here, we are happy to help anyways.
- Sebastian
A reincarnated rep, miracles happen....
We utilize partial verification based on age and ID that is required by the UKGC within 72 hours after the first deposit.
Those are the OLD rules
The NEW rules are....
From Tuesday 7 May, if an operator has not yet verified the name, address and date of birth of any customer, they will need to have completed verification before allowing that customer to gamble. Operators will therefore need to prevent any unverified customer from gambling until they have gone through the verification process.
Those are the OLD rules
The NEW rules are....
From Tuesday 7 May, if an operator has not yet verified the name, address and date of birth of any customer, they will need to have completed verification before allowing that customer to gamble. Operators will therefore need to prevent any unverified customer from gambling until they have gone through the verification process.
Very pleased to know somebody knows the legalities, this man should be working in the legal department.
Okay so I might be wrong on this, and if so - I admit my mistake and i'm sorry. I currently work more on the affiliate side so my knowledge of UKGC regulations is not so sharp anymore, but I'll talk with the correct colleagues first thing in the morning and come back to you with clear and correct answers this time.
- Sebastian

Okay so I might be wrong on this, and if so - I admit my mistake and i'm sorry. I currently work more on the affiliate side so my knowledge of UKGC regulations is not so sharp anymore, but I'll talk with the correct colleagues first thing in the morning and come back to you with clear and correct answers this time.
- Sebastian
Okay so I might be wrong on this, and if so - I admit my mistake and i'm sorry. I currently work more on the affiliate side so my knowledge of UKGC regulations is not so sharp anymore, but I'll talk with the correct colleagues first thing in the morning and come back to you with clear and correct answers this time.
- Sebastian



Did read that UKGC new regulations, one thing what catches my eye is that before registration you need to verify, Name, Address, Date of Birth and good to go. In many occasions was mentioned that all verification documents should be requested at an early stage as possible not to make withdrawals pending and take time to player receive funds.
However, there could be a bit clearer statement about proof of payment method, it was mentioned there that it's something many payment providers don't accurately send to the operator and therefore pictures of the card or another method would be needed. Before the player makes a deposit it's kind of mission impossible to know what method is used for a deposit, getting this up to date, a first deposit should maybe then trigger a notification to the player that proof of deposit and withdrawal method are needed before approving any withdrawals. And as always (like in Paysafe) withdrawal must be done to bank account or other method if these are single used coupons, some credit cards don't accept withdrawals (some providers, countries).
This would be one thing to address bit more clearly as now there was mostly used phrasing (not remember and not read it word to word with my morning coffe ("Early stage as reasonably possible or something) and everytime new payment method is used, it should maybe then trigger this notification everytime IF willing to get in stage that these don't cause any details in handling withdrawals.
Also, i believe even 3rd party identification methods are accepted, at some threshold operators do want additional documentation as a picture, when it's coming to large amounts, anonymous payment methods or some other reason they might have to carry additional verification or EDD top of electronical one made in point of registration.
The point was that when verifying it had to be made clear by the casino operator as to what other docs may be required at that point, not at the withdrawal stage. As far as I can tell Rizk have breached verification checks and the secondary non disclosure of required docs for the withdrawals. Honestly cannot say I'm surprised. Whole MT Securetrade group seems to be going to pot.
If the so called electoral verification was enough to let him deposit then shouldn't that also have anabled him to withdraw without further verification needed?
If the so called electoral verification was enough to let him deposit then shouldn't that also have anabled him to withdraw without further verification needed?
As said, i have no insight what they have and what not verified, just thinking could that be a reason that electronic verification would be enough for first stage and then some pictures of documents would be needed. That might be really challenging to know beforehand if there is something more needed as it can depend things like amount of withdrawal (for some small first ones might not be need for anything but when winning very big there might be).
Triggering kind of general notification about need of payment method could be quite easily implemented, just to mention that there is need of proof all used payment methods for deposits and withdrawals (and instructions what is needed from all methods and some players are not aware if they can withdraw back to their card or not as all not supporting it) at some point but that would not be 100% clear to players either and could cause some confusion. Also if some amounts triggers SOW/SOF request, that's quiet harsh IMO start to ask from beginning before it's needed.
I got the point of UKGC and that's how it should go, but when it came to payment method they also agreed casino operators can't in many cases be sure belongs to same person or SOW is triggering, it's kind of mission impossible to make 100% work at the moment. If you use next night new payment method (assume their payments not working all night) and make withdrawal after one hour playing, it just end up that casino operator needs to request additional documents at the point of withdrawal. Right direction but still lot to do with these requirements to make all what they are supposed to.
I did read it as electronic verification is sufficient, so long as it’s before withdrawal. And an ID check can be done instantly - I do it daily at work.
It’s ambiguously worded. Almost as if they want operators to fall foul.
They actually have a history here of being a very good casino property; one of the best, actuallyEven the name Rizk sounds suspicious to me.
You were jumping to conclusions here - which makes me question the purpose of this thread. Rizk casino is by far one of the most transparent and well run casinos in the business. There are a number of new regulatory policy changes going on, and sometimes you will need to be a bit more tolerant and understanding when it comes to these changes - the industry is in uncharted waters. Starting a thread without a full understanding of what these casinos are dealing with and implementing is not fair - in my opinion.There is something not quite right with this casino.
Your either verified or not, my deposits were taken without any checks.
Withdrawals are not the same.
Nothing has changed.
How can they ask for more at withdrawal stage, thats what I thought this new UKGC ruling was about. Verify fisrt to stop this happening.
Even the name Rizk sounds suspicious to me.
The better option is to find casinos that are accepting paypal deposits/withdrawls.... much less riskier.

Now we have casinos which have set up third party ID detection (which is not all that apparent and relatively new) that is now confirming who you are while you are depositing..
I had that happen with the casinos in the same group as Virgin Games - first time I've actually encountered it personally. I really like it as well, and I do wonder why all casinos (at least under UKGC jurisdiction) can't have the same system. No idea what is going on in the background but before my first withdrawal I contacted CS to ask what KYC they needed from me and was told "your email address, home address, and identity have already been verified when you signed up [and made a deposit]".
It's such a simple system, and reassuring that I didn't have to send any sensitive documents over email.
Yeah, the Bookie sites, SkyVegas and Gamesys sites have done this from the year dot virtually - it's perhaps easier for them as they're in the UK and can use those services, whereas it's more problematic for non-UK based casinos. Also could be more expensive, depending on which level of endorsement they are willing to pay for.
) I have been using Rizk. I won £250 and got paid out straight away. It's a little frustrating that they are a bit tight with bonuses.
However I think I have been impressed
they did the same to me ( i did post a thread on it)
its the usual BS that they will take your money but not give it out, as they use your withdrawal as a bargaining tool to make you jump through the hoops
i had SoW pulled on my when trying to make a withdrawal.... i sent them business and personal bank statements which i wasnt very happy about and they have refused to accept them as they want a wage slip and employment contract which is hard as i am self employed !!!!
the result was i did manage to circumnavigate the block and withdraw my money even though i had been told i couldnt.... and i havent played there since, although randonmly i did email my VIP rep AGAIN today as i still havent been verified or contacted to be told what more i can do.... but as ever no response....
at that to their wheel of fuck all and i do think they should be sin binned to the rogues gallery as they are not playing fair and not follwing the rules which as they have just been fined £700,000 i think it was (MT secure) is abit dumb
