I'm not sure these are good examples - both bandit and rolla have periods of aggressive momentum play, so they will be very much aware of what their overall break even line is while potentially thousands or tens of thousands of pounds adrift - that won't necessarily be one game, one provider or even one casino.Rocknrollah had it; he had that magic hit of 100k on a certain game. But admitted later that that number was pretty much what he deposit. The Bandit Slots too with his 6 pound 100k win on Fruit party. He said something down the line that, 100k on avg was what he did deposit over time.
In the case of bandit, his play on Reel King was so aggressive that casinos started to investigate it for irregularities when he topped for £20k+ wins. At one point he was a hefty six figures ahead, but the more you play, the less you beat the curve and stories started to emerge he was sometimes losing tens of thousands in a single session chasing tops. Some may argue the game "changed" on him (although no evidence has been provided to back that allegation) but similarly the variance will catch up with him over time.
Depending on what card game you play - perfect Blackjack can be as high as 99.7%, Baccarat is 98.9%. The beauty of both games is there is full transparency - as long as the deck is fair, and as long as the dealer or shuffler isn't doing anything shady, then there's no RNG to worry about. Roulette historically was the same, but RNG wheels are becoming more of a thing now which predictably players are going to dislike when a "real wheel" can seemingly defy the laws of physics.Ive talked about it with someone; the only way to really get ahead seems to be live games then. Cards, roulette etc. Because if served right, there's virtually no RTP and it's just the luck of the hand, right?
RTP being return to players, not an individual - so the more people collectively play, the more they will lose... the casinos don't need to cheat (they didn't need to stoop to 88% online slots either, but alas here we are) as they let the maths model do the heavy lifting. The stories that tend to surface are either a) rogue operators running pirated or unregulated games, b) poorly tested or implemented games that can escape the maths [upwards or downwards] of the maths model, for example bogus assumptions on stored value (e.g. The Dark Knight Rises), c) people crying conspiracy based on inappropriately small sample sizes.So lets say we're not getting beyond that 96.5% on avg then, tell me what the point is gambling is? The casino and provider just snoops off a percentage of what you overall deposit then.
One thing that is important to remember, is weighted random vs true random. Players will instinctively assume the latter even though games can often use the former. A perfect example would be must-drop jackpots - the weighting is designed that the chance in the early phases is astronomical (billions or trillions to one), towards the end it will approach certainty. Doesn't feel particularly fair - and it's not in the sense early players are contributing the RTP but have no real chance to win it - but as long as it is explained accurately in the game rules, then it's up to the player to be aware of that.