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Hi, umm I'd like to say I had fun but not 1 feature and not what I'm used to as a netent/wms player, I take it people play for the big jackpots as I found no enjoyment in losing so fast, Iv never played RTG before though so I thank you for allowing me a free go to see what there all about, the rtp concerned me a bit too much to play with real money as that was just brutal.

Btw, I don't expect to win everytime I play but that is the coldest I have ever experienced, ever and I was on minimum stakes!

The chat rep was very helpful and helped me to verify my email his end so that was a positive

They can be brutal like any other provider, On my 50 free (not sign up) I had over a 1k at one point the time I cleared wager I had just over 600 took of me :( than built balance back to over 200 but max cash out was 100,

50 depo yesterday got 100 free, I must admit the wager req was extortionate but I really do not mind on a good bonus, As you get extra play and most of the time get your moneys worth, & always a chance of a win,

Played for ages, Not only has this saved me a few quid from deposit on my local haunts but actually having some fun for once, No error or cut outs,

I actually had a 5,250.00 wager and got 1,495.80 to go with 350 sitting in balance, Just testing all the games out, bets ranging from .40 to 1.00
 
Hi babyjoker,

Apart from not winning, I am glad you had a bit of fun and that my call center guys proficient. I have awarded you with a further 25 free (already on your acc). Please go give the instant play a punt and let me know your thoughts.

Looking forward to the feedback!

Best Regards
Jason

Oh okay thanks thats a nice touch, I'll be sure to do that :cool:
 
They can be brutal like any other provider, On my 50 free (not sign up) I had over a 1k at one point the time I cleared wager I had just over 600 took of me :( than built balance back to over 200 but max cash out was 100,

50 depo yesterday got 100 free, I must admit the wager req was extortionate but I really do not mind on a good bonus, As you get extra play and most of the time get your moneys worth, & always a chance of a win,

Played for ages, Not only has this saved me a few quid from deposit on my local haunts but actually having some fun for once, No error or cut outs,

I actually had a 5,250.00 wager and got 1,495.80 to go with 350 sitting in balance, Just testing all the games out, bets ranging from .40 to 1.00

The highest bet i did was .40 for the first 10 dollars, then .25 or .20 till I bust lol

Like I said before, I don't expect to win, I play for entertainment but for me that comes as a feature and i got none lol

Cheers hopefully I'll get a feature later :thumbsup:
 
Hi BMWSTACK,

Come on.... surely you should allow players to make up their own minds. The fact that we are not yet accredited by CM, does not mean we are not a fair casino.
The MAX cashout topic is getting a bit stale now, if players are happy with the term then surely they are entitled to decide whether they want to continue their play with us or not.

I have said it before and I will say it again. We are looking at changing the match offers and some offers will have max cashouts and others wont. Plus your VIP status also determines the bonus rules.

I hope that we can put this topic to bed now!!!!!

Regards
Jason
 
If you have never played RTG its best to choose an accredited one. I would recommend Clubworld Group which has about 7 or so casinos. The Clubworld Casino itself is the one I prefer. With Clubworld you have reasonable playthrough, no MAXCASHOUT and they pay very quickly.

Most RTGs do actually have weekly or monthly max w/d limits so even if you have no limit on what you can win, you'll certainly take some time getting it! If you check the accredited many are far lower than RB, as low as $2000.

Maximum winnings (if you are referring to maximum win limits on certain bonuses that can be cashed-out) I think should be clarified as such in this thread.

You are referring to win/cash-out limits when certain bonuses are taken. The terms are there and as I'm not a big depositor I doubt they'll affect me but could if I was a higher-roller. There does need to be an exception for progressives winners though, if there isn't already.
 
Hi dunover,

Regarding progressives, most of the bonuses will exclude play on progressives. However, in the event of a bonus allowing play on progressives, there will be no max cashout on the progressive jackpot win (max jackpot). I hope that answers your question.

As for random jackpots, we decided last week that if the RJ was won while playing off a ND bonus, the max cashout rule will be enforced, But if it was won off a match offer, we will honor the win amount. Given the wagering was met.

I hope this answers your question?

Regards
Jason
 
Most RTGs do actually have weekly or monthly max w/d limits so even if you have no limit on what you can win, you'll certainly take some time getting it! If you check the accredited many are far lower than RB, as low as $2000.

Maximum winnings (if you are referring to maximum win limits on certain bonuses that can be cashed-out) I think should be clarified as such in this thread.

You are referring to win/cash-out limits when certain bonuses are taken. The terms are there and as I'm not a big depositor I doubt they'll affect me but could if I was a higher-roller. There does need to be an exception for progressives winners though, if there isn't already.

Yes That is what I have been talking about in here is the Max Cashout on deposit bonuses. I have seen 25x max cashout on most bonuses.

In terms of withdrawal limits Clubworld is one of the highest out there. They go $5000 a week. I think this raging bull is $2500 a week, but people don't need to sweat that with the Max Cashout rule
 
Hi dunover,

Regarding progressives, most of the bonuses will exclude play on progressives. However, in the event of a bonus allowing play on progressives, there will be no max cashout on the progressive jackpot win (max jackpot). I hope that answers your question.

As for random jackpots, we decided last week that if the RJ was won while playing off a ND bonus, the max cashout rule will be enforced, But if it was won off a match offer, we will honor the win amount. Given the wagering was met.

I hope this answers your question?

Regards
Jason

Yes, it does. Cheers.
 
Im doing ok, Infact its the best 50$ I ever spent, I do get abit worried what games are allowed as alot of sites let you play not aloud games and do you in,

I believe theses games are locked out?

In the cashier it states games allowed real series, Than not allowed tourneys, Than blocked games such as bingo and red dog but also real series I take it that the real series that are blok are the mega jackpots? As most of the real series have a minor or major,

Its really not fun having to check every game you want to play, But I take it every game is ok to play if you can get into the game?

As even the top accredited sites have games not allowed so why not block them?
 
Hi BMWSTACK,

Come on.... surely you should allow players to make up their own minds. The fact that we are not yet accredited by CM, does not mean we are not a fair casino.
The MAX cashout topic is getting a bit stale now, if players are happy with the term then surely they are entitled to decide whether they want to continue their play with us or not.

I have said it before and I will say it again. We are looking at changing the match offers and some offers will have max cashouts and others wont. Plus your VIP status also determines the bonus rules.

I hope that we can put this topic to bed now!!!!!

Regards
Jason

Of course they will make up their own mind, but recommendations of where to play are always welcome. I feel strongly about supporting casinos that do all the right things. Yes it is old. We have the most intelligent real community out of all the casino forums. I really expected more support on the MaxCashout. .

If they are happy with terms then great, I am sure no changes will be made. If enough people complained I am sure you would have changed quickly. Your right you keep saying you guys are looking at changing terms but you have been saying it for 20days. Make the changes!

I do not voice my opinion because I have played there and had a bad experience. I voice my opinion because I cant play there with the terms. I guess I really would like to see another good RTG casino because there are very few out there.

So consider my posts as frustration that I cannot try you out.
 
Hi BMWSTACK,

If it was up to me, I would have implemented the new promo's asap. Unfortunately this requires time and rescorces, which are limited at the moment.
Watch this space, that's all I can say :)

Regards
Jason
 
I would say this is my new RTG casino. I had them on my radar some month ago but they had no Neteller as a deposit option if remember right. They are also listed at the KasinoKing website.

Had an issue with my email but CS solved it within minutes. Bonus offers are good, capped cashouts are not a big problem for me. I mainly play RIVAL and most of the offers have a max cap. Will send them my docs in the next days.

Sometimes a "Bitch and moan" thread is not the worst thing for a casino, if they have an active rep here in the forums.

I will play there in the future :thumbsup:

PS: Golden Euro also have max. cashouts for a lot of their bonus offers and they are accredited.
 
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@Jason, Yes its been fun, In-between doing stuff, I not one of theses that clear wager and take out instantly, Quick way to get bonus banned I bet, Not happens yet but I always play fair, But always dips down once your about done with the hard work,

The amount of times I cleared wager and left with a few pennys lol, You have to laugh or will be smashing computer up, I have had 2-3 shots on this software in about 8 years and the games are still in my mind like I was playing them yesterday,


With every person talking about what's fair or not, Nothings fair in this day and age, I had a win in my 1st week of gambling ten years ago for about 3k on 30p bet & since than the max take out is about £300 I do not think I have ever moaned about losing which some weeks I stick in £200-300,

If you take a bonus out than you really get extras, Casino only protect them selfs giving free cash away, I have no quibbles with any rules attached to a bonus, Every one is for them self's, If not like do not take, For me a bonus is sweet, & thats what gets my deposits, If lose than thats extra play you had,

I am not got the money to sticking 500 to 1,000 in at at time but I tell you something if I id than I would not be taking any sort of bonus unless it was wager free with nothing attached,

As been pointing out its probably still early doors yet RB seem to be on the right track, sorting out the good proms and what they got to do is not easy, Just because casino is not on the accredited list does not mean they are bad, There is many thats not on list that are brilliant (spinG) to name one, As someone pointed out (looked back and canot find) they have come and gone,

I must admit I have alays been rary of playing any site, Accredited or not, I have played over (lost count) deposit /withdraw & no worries, Only time I was denied a win of £150 about 4 years ago, I was playing some free bingo at ohmybingo and exchanged some points to £5 CASH for bingo site only to win £150 than no pay as no deposit in 30 days, Now just hang on that £5 was ment to be cash, I could exchange that for £5 gift card, Any way I add screen shot, Aso was denyed the miniscure amount amount from tropica as not played 10 games, My fault but learned my lesson there in more than 1 way,

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Had an issue with my email but CS solved it within minutes. Bonus offers are good, capped cashouts are not a big problem for me. I mainly play RIVAL and most of the offers have a max cap. Will send them my docs in the next days.

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Yeah actually I thought of Rival right when the Max Cashout came up. But heres the difference most of the Max Cashouts at Rival is on the very large bonuses. Correct me if im wrong but isn't Rival generally have no max cashout on bonuses $150% and below?

The Golden Euro your talking about, is this the same scenario, max cashouts on 300% 500% 1000% and so on?
 
Yeah actually I thought of Rival right when the Max Cashout came up. But heres the difference most of the Max Cashouts at Rival is on the very large bonuses. Correct me if im wrong but isn't Rival generally have no max cashout on bonuses $150% and below?

The Golden Euro your talking about, is this the same scenario, max cashouts on 300% 500% 1000% and so on?

You also need to remember with respect, that nearly all MG download sites have far worse (bar Casino Rewards and 32Red group) with that horrid 6x D maximum cash-out if taking their SUBs.......:(
 
Yeah actually I thought of Rival right when the Max Cashout came up. But heres the difference most of the Max Cashouts at Rival is on the very large bonuses. Correct me if im wrong but isn't Rival generally have no max cashout on bonuses $150% and below?

The Golden Euro your talking about, is this the same scenario, max cashouts on 300% 500% 1000% and so on?

I think Golden Euro has the max. cashout for most bonuses. I had in the last months loads of mails from them and everything over 100% had a cap.

For the Rival slots you are right.

But this is a RTG casino. I played sometimes CWC and made two cashouts. Both played with a bonus and the result is that I have now a whopping 35% bonus with 30X D+B. WTF. With other words I`m bonus banned but I never cashed out more than I deposited. Nate had the same issue with them, but he cashed out more than 25000 $. I cashed out less than 1000$. The result was the same. Karolina is great here in the forums but CWC is in my opinion not as great as some people try to tell me.

Back to this casino, if you don`t like their T&C don`t play there. But I don`t have to tell you that, you are a seasoned player.

Cheers
 
I think Golden Euro has the max. cashout for most bonuses. I had in the last months loads of mails from them and everything over 100% had a cap.

For the Rival slots you are right.

But this is a RTG casino. I played sometimes CWC and made two cashouts. Both played with a bonus and the result is that I have now a whopping 35% bonus with 30X D+B. WTF. With other words I`m bonus banned but I never cashed out more than I deposited. Nate had the same issue with them, but he cashed out more than 25000 $. I cashed out less than 1000$. The result was the same. Karolina is great here in the forums but CWC is in my opinion not as great as some people try to tell me.

Back to this casino, if you don`t like their T&C don`t play there. But I don`t have to tell you that, you are a seasoned player.

Cheers
Agreed on CWG. Was once my go to group to play at faithfully for many years.....then "poof" no longer wanted...loyalty means nothing to any casino any longer, so why bother sticking with them that throw you out with the bathwater (35% bonus offer)...ppfffttt....!
 
Oh dear!!!!

Jason has been great so far but this has really put me off, I didn't expect this nonsense - this is the first time I ever had this from any casino:


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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:32 PM
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Hello Dunover,

Congratulations on your last wining !!! It is always our pleasure to see players winnings at our Casino !!!
In order to increase your chance of winning big I would invite you to reverse your wining or part of it and cash out bigger amount. Whenever you are ready, just shout :)
Congratulations again, I hope to see you playing soon.
Kind regards,
KIERA


Tut tut. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
Jason has been great so far but this has really put me off, I didn't expect this nonsense - this is the first time I ever had this from any casino:


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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:32 PM
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Hello Dunover,

Congratulations on your last wining !!! It is always our pleasure to see players winnings at our Casino !!!
In order to increase your chance of winning big I would invite you to reverse your wining or part of it and cash out bigger amount. Whenever you are ready, just shout :)
Congratulations again, I hope to see you playing soon.
Kind regards,
KIERA


Tut tut. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

:eek2:

Never had any casino ask me to reverse a withdrawal either. I guess at the very least they didn't use a bonus with a max cashout to tempt you.

The funny thing is in the time and effort they take to try tempt you, they could have processed the withdrawal and you would be more inclined to deposit there again.
 
Nooooooooooo.......... why why why?

Dunover, my apologies mate. They have been advised to stop sending these mail. I am going to lose my cool with these guys today!

To make things worse, this withdrawal was ALREADY processed yesterday!!!

I think I am throwing in the towel and calling it a day. Might as well just go home and curl into the fetal position and cry!!

SOB!!!

Regards
Jason
 
well jason to be honest i even would give your casino a bash after watching this thread , you've been great & a breath of fresh when it comes to RTG casino building it up , so go talk to your peeps & get things sorted , nice job on what your trying to achieve good luck )
 
Hi mrjones,

Thanks for the vote of confidence! It's refreshing to see that there are guys out there that appreciate the effort and understand that mistakes will be made.
I can gladly confirm that 99% of the times the mistake can be rectified. Let me know when you are ready to give Raging Bull a try and I will pop a little something extra on your account for you.

Thanks once again!!

Best Regards
Jason
 
Jason has been great so far but this has really put me off, I didn't expect this nonsense - this is the first time I ever had this from any casino:


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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:32 PM
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From: "Raging Bull Support" <[email protected]>To: [email protected]
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Hello Dunover,

Congratulations on your last wining !!! It is always our pleasure to see players winnings at our Casino !!!
In order to increase your chance of winning big I would invite you to reverse your wining or part of it and cash out bigger amount. Whenever you are ready, just shout :)
Congratulations again, I hope to see you playing soon.
Kind regards,
KIERA


Tut tut. :mad::mad::mad::mad:


Didn't you play with a freebie with a max withdrawal $150 and played until $150 (I watched your video). In this case a reversal would do only harm. No additional winning potential.
 
@ hedgehok - Hit the nail on the head mate!

I just through a few punches and this should not happen again - EVER!!!!

Sorry guys for all the headaches, I guess this is how we learn from our mistakes..

Regards
Jason
 
@ hedgehok - Hit the nail on the head mate!

I just through a few punches and this should never happen again - EVER!!!!

Sorry guys for all the headaches, I guess this is how we learn from our mistakes..

Regards
Jason
 
Jason has been great so far but this has really put me off, I didn't expect this nonsense - this is the first time I ever had this from any casino:


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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:32 PM
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From: "Raging Bull Support" <[email protected]>To: [email protected]
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Hello Dunover,

Congratulations on your last wining !!! It is always our pleasure to see players winnings at our Casino !!!
In order to increase your chance of winning big I would invite you to reverse your wining or part of it and cash out bigger amount. Whenever you are ready, just shout :)
Congratulations again, I hope to see you playing soon.
Kind regards,
KIERA


Tut tut. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Yes and I bet thats the 1st thing you did is reverse :)

On the note they are actualy in order sorting things out, This may well of been another template there using or auto email, I believe this is all getting sorted, I kow there is some out dated stuff and is going to change, Its not as easy as swiching a light on,
Even Jason is bending over backwords to try and help us
 
I wish this casino stop emailing me saying i have 20 free spins on the casino and then going to ask in live chat and then they say its not valid. Please don't send me offers then decline then in chat. I have closed the account now and hopefully won't get anymore spams each day .
 
Jason has been great so far but this has really put me off, I didn't expect this nonsense - this is the first time I ever had this from any casino:


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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:32 PM
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From: "Raging Bull Support" <[email protected]>To: [email protected]
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Hello Dunover,

Congratulations on your last wining !!! It is always our pleasure to see players winnings at our Casino !!!
In order to increase your chance of winning big I would invite you to reverse your wining or part of it and cash out bigger amount. Whenever you are ready, just shout :)
Congratulations again, I hope to see you playing soon.
Kind regards,
KIERA


Tut tut. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Lol, yeah they have been sending these out for a while. Someone posted it at the other forum. They needed to proof read or run spell check. winning was misspelled twice.

This really reminds me of Bet Phoenix, and Lock Casino. Very similar strategies.
 
Lol, yeah they have been sending these out for a while. Someone posted it at the other forum. They needed to proof read or run spell check. winning was misspelled twice.

This really reminds me of Bet Phoenix, and Lock Casino. Very similar strategies.

Give benifit of the dout I say, Even the top rated casino use templates, They have had a majour overhaul so a few bits are expected, even the minor bits are going to look bad,

Bypass them bits, Every one has a moan even if there happy just to let you no there bad bits lol, Than if they win it the next best thing since sliced bread
 
I wish this casino stop emailing me saying i have 20 free spins on the casino and then going to ask in live chat and then they say its not valid. Please don't send me offers then decline then in chat. I have closed the account now and hopefully won't get anymore spams each day .

Hi Gemma A,

This is a really strange - Do you mind please sending me your username. I would just like look into your account and why you would be experiencing issues redeeming a freebie.

I am looking forward to hearing back from you!

Best Regards
Jason
 
Ladies and Gents,

I am calling it a day and heading home.

I will see if I can pop in during the course of the evening to see how things are going. If you guys don't hear from me tonight, I will definitely be in tomorrow morning to respond where needed.

Wishing you all a super morning/afternoon/evening!

Best Regards
Jason
 
Wednesday's cash-out received today debit card. I had another deposit and the slots seem VERY tight now.....;)

Good stuff, Slots was bad for me, Untill a few minutes ago and hit this beauty, had a few repeat spins, Only gave 5 extra each time, I thought thats not good until I see x50 lol, Did not even drop 5oak either so could of been a monster as well,

Just over 300 to wager, I was down to $8 at one stage, Also unless its a multy platform such as guts / spingenie I do not play any where else, I have an odd depo at tropica but now there closing to U.K I think RB will see alot more of me, Makes a change from the normal slots, Also as its in $ than get more for your buck, Yes you win less if manage a hit, But I do not mind losing as plenty of bonus going and at least get something for your money, Saved me a fourtune as not needed to deposit at no other place :)

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Hi Dunover,

I am glad that you received our withdrawal. Thanks for the subsiquent deposits. Really sorry that they didn't materialize into a nice win. Certain things I do have control over, however, wins and play time is completely out of my control. I can, however, pop a little something on your account that hopefully will result in a pleasent experience!

As for spintee, well done.... plus you are close to meeting wager...... Party at spintee's place this weekend and drinks are on him...lol...

Regards
Jason
 
smooth site games run very well , seems jason is doing a good job here on the forum , checked over deposits plus bonuses seems they are capped to 4.5k , what is the weekly withdrawal max? 10k ?? also its in dollars as well , any changes coming to euro or GBP or is this staying dollars ? cheers:)
 
I buy any one a beer :) even if I am skint, As for party's I had 2 birds round the other night, Not again in a hurry, still recovering, Which means no work = no pay, As it Friday today I have an excuse to have a hair and the dog :D

With that win I was lucky, I got a bonus not long after and hit just over 100, had a load more but not so good, I do love theses slots albeit can be danger but thats like any games provider, At least they can give you a run, you deposit on alot of sites and balance has disapeard whiten a few minutes
 
Withdraw made, Its the mostly I ever withdraw except the first week of gaming about 10 years back,
Is there a specific time frame for withdraw? I could do with that hitting my skrill account :)

Also point out as MrJ said the games run so smooth, It makes a change I tell you, $740 out 30 left in, I not just saying this as got a win but I have been converted, Why cannot all sites run a smooth?
 
smooth site games run very well , seems jason is doing a good job here on the forum , checked over deposits plus bonuses seems they are capped to 4.5k , what is the weekly withdrawal max? 10k ?? also its in dollars as well , any changes coming to euro or GBP or is this staying dollars ? cheers:)


Hi mrjones,

I am glad to hear that you like what you seeing :thumbsup:

Our current "advertised" match promo's have max cashouts ranging between $2500 and 25x the bonus (i.e. $12500 on the rage5 promo). As for the weekly withdrawal amount, this too varies dependent on your VIP status. So it ranges between $2500 and $7500 a week.

Regarding currencies, as you know Raging Bull is a USD casino. Unfortunately we not looking at getting a GBP or EUR database (RTG each currency is a separate database). However, we have the option to allow players to deposit in either GBP, AUD, CAD or EURO and have their casino account credited with USD. Deposit £100 and you will be credited with $154.

mrjones, I hope this answer your questions.

Let me know if you require more info on these topics!

Have a great weekend and happy gaming!

Regards
Jason
 
Withdraw made, Its the mostly I ever withdraw except the first week of gaming about 10 years back,
Is there a specific time frame for withdraw? I could do with that hitting my skrill account :)

Also point out as MrJ said the games run so smooth, It makes a change I tell you, $740 out 30 left in, I not just saying this as got a win but I have been converted, Why cannot all sites run a smooth?

Congrats Brother well done!!

When I am in the UK next year FEB, I will take you up on that beer :thumbsup: As for your withdrawal. We have already done the file upload for the day so I can't get the guys to push it through for you. But I will remove it from the pending period before I leave the office this afternoon. I can assure you it will be processed first thing tomorrow morning.

Have a super weekend!!

Regards
Jason
 
Congrats Brother well done!!

When I am in the UK next year FEB, I will take you up on that beer :thumbsup: As for your withdrawal. We have already done the file upload for the day so I can't get the guys to push it through for you. But I will remove it from the pending period before I leave the office this afternoon. I can assure you it will be processed first thing tomorrow morning.

Have a super weekend!!

Regards
Jason

Thats just my luck :) I sure a got a few quid lying about, (hidden) I know I get nothing in bank as took the last lot out yestoday, Took my Nan out for a quick drink as was her Bday & as my Grandad passed the other day she abit lonely, Well when I got there she was half cut with my aunty, couple empty champers finished lol,

With the drink You always welcome, Whats kicking of in feb? the ICE ? I am yet to go to any & even the meister meet but I believe the beers free there :) I should be there next year as got many family in London so no excuse, I had another 100 win :) I will not take out unless I get a good few hundred to make it to the magical 1k max, You probly see that back in a few weeks :( with the rest,

I thank you again for all the support and I bet others will also,

Tee
 
mrjones,

I am glad I could answer those questions for you. please PM me your email addy and username and I will check on the status of the docs.

Anxiously awaiting your reply!

Regards
Jason
 
Jesus after playing the free chip there it's like I'm playing a different math model casino when I deposit my cash, just watched a fast-spin $100 on T-rex go down to zero at 50c spins in just under 7 minutes, no feature.

Plus for accreditation you need responsible gaming features and there is none that I can see on Flash site. :(
 

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