Raging Bull Casino

[spintee]

I shot my self a few times again on this one,

Received an text message for 40 free and 150% bonus so took the 40 b4 depo but was on a strike, was on a good few hundred and it done me in again, Done wager and bang took money of Lucky max win / withdraw was 150 so was ok and kept playing got to about 30 than a few wins, took 100 out,

So used 1000 points for 10 play, got up to about 170, Yep you guessed it spent the lot

So depo 50 today and gone had a real good play and still up 50, waiting on cash still,

Could of been well up well at least 200 more plus the 50 depo but took the risk and canot keep getting free bonus and withdraw,

Only one question Jason, If you managed the max withdraw than you take the rest of you, Can you carry on playing to win more?

Have good week end peeps

happy spinning

 

[spintee]

Oh well, I reversed the 100 and managed 3 bonus rounds on bigshot, The first 2 was pants but 3rd bought in 20 spins, as you no each spin adds x stake so the time the last spin come ins its a 20x but paid shit 50 odd but took out 145 and that extra will pay for my next deposit

 

[rena35]

So far everything is going well with my withdraw which is a nice change . I sent in my documents and they sent an email letting me know they were received . I do not know how long it takes to actually hit my bank after it's processed but i will post back here when it does .

 

[JasonFTA]

Morning Ladies and Gents,

I trust that you all had a lovely weekend.

We near the end of Winter in SA and it feels like spring is already here. 28c today and nice and sunny!

To answer your question spintee, we will actually manually remove the balance after you have cashed in the max cash in amount. Obviously if this happens over a weekend, you may continue playing with the balance (accumulate comp points), but once the withdrawals team comes in, they will finalise the withdrawal and remove the balance. However most of the times the players cash in the "FULL" amount, which we will then remove before processing the cashable balance.

@ Rena35, Thanks for sending the docs etc. Your withdrawal should be processed during the course of this morning. Wire transfers could take between 3 to 7 working days to reflect, but we have seen wires hit accounts within 24 hours after being processed.

Have a great day guys and chat soon!

Best Regards
Jason

 

[rena35]

Processed very fast IMO. Hassle free . Thanks Jason and Raging bull. Now this is how smoothly every withdraw should be. As easy as depositing . Will update again when it's received .

 

[spintee]

Jason did you say the withdraw is now quicker?

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi spintee, not as a result of us doing anything differently. We state that it could take 3 to 7 working days from the time that we process it. But we have das cases where the funds reflect within 24 hours. I guess it has to do with where the withdrawal falls in our processors queue.

Regards
Jason

 

[jumboshrimp]

Credit where credit is due. Tired and annoyed with netent and mgs, saw all the buzz about raging bull. hmm why not? 50 free chip netted me 75 after wagering.
Bankwire was my only option for withdrawal but with the huge fee and a 15 charge from my bank would leave me about 10 bucks

Pmed Jason, he was first class. I asked about ecopayz for withdrawing and he said just deposit the minimum and it will auto-appear. Min withdrawal with ecopayz is 100 so he topped up my account with 25:notworthy. Who does that???

Requested payout on saturday, sent docs in. zero hassle, money in account at 9:30 monday morning That's how to get repeat customers.

 

[aceking123]

bahhh jason i wondered over to your casino today to play thought i would ask about bonuses , i asked brian what promos do you have that dont have a max cashout on them > his reply NONE

really? shocked to be honest if everything is capped on bonuses , not a great start of course i can without but im aware of RTG slots

 

[Jono777]

Hi Jason Hope you can clarify a couple of things for me please...

I took the $50NDB SUB and made play thru with a decent balance which reset at time wagering cleared to the max allowance of $150.

I was told The cash out request was denied due to not making the qualifying deposit of $21 but If I made this deposit I could then withdraw the entire balance ($170) I also needed to send ID docs which I have now done.

So if I deposit $21 (using skrill) and DO NOT accept any bonus can I then withdraw it all?

If yes, then can I also make a FRESH deposit and accept a bonus please?

Many thanks in advance

 

[BMWSTACK]

bahhh jason i wondered over to your casino today to play thought i would ask about bonuses , i asked brian what promos do you have that dont have a max cashout on them > his reply NONE

really? shocked to be honest if everything is capped on bonuses , not a great start of course i can without but im aware of RTG slots

Yeah the 50% bonus even has a max cashout .

 

[spintee]

Jason did state earlier in this thread that there getting rid of the wager on 77% so I guess that means the 50% as well, Albeit I have not seen a 50% and the lowest is 60%

 

[rena35]

Processed Monday , received my payment today :notworthy Very fast for USA facing casino. Verified and paid in 3 business days , .

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi jonmincher,

Sorry for the late reply, I left the office early yesterday afternoon.

To answer your question, that is correct. Once you have made the verification deposit of $21, you may proceed to withdraw the $150 plus the $21 (total of $171). Thereafter you are more than welcome to make another deposit and claim the welcome offer.

Congrats on your initial win!

Best Regards
Jason

 

[JasonFTA]

bahhh jason i wondered over to your casino today to play thought i would ask about bonuses , i asked brian what promos do you have that dont have a max cashout on them > his reply NONE

really? shocked to be honest if everything is capped on bonuses , not a great start of course i can without but im aware of RTG slots

Hi mrjones,

Unfortunately that's correct. All the current deposit match offers have max cashouts, exept if you are a Diamond Bull VIP member. Players in this vip tier have NO MAX cashout limits.

Apart from the max cashout issue, how did you experience Raging Bull Casino?

Regards
Jason

 

[aceking123]

Hi mrjones,

Unfortunately that's correct. All the current deposit match offers have max cashouts, exept if you are a Diamond Bull VIP member. Players in this vip tier have NO MAX cashout limits.

Apart from the max cashout issue, how did you experience Raging Bull Casino?

Regards
Jason

Hi jason thanks for replying, your casino is fine & your a good active rep hence to why i joined, my problem is more to do with being restrained from any bonuses that have a max cap on them , i understand free chips & stuff but perplexed that your casino does not even have a bonus upto a 75% without being capped

To me sitting from a outside looking at it from a punter seat , alarms bells are ringing this is a basic function of damage control meaning a controlled stats for payouts? ( restricted )

Going via all the bonuses you have across your casino pretty easy for accounts to work out the top value or a average payout around per month on depositing players , because in fact all your bonuses are capped.

which makes me think of damage control ?

doesn't mean to say i don't like you or your casino , because infact im all up for you guys to make a good go of it , nice to see some fresh blood here & very active on the forum

but i also know what RTG games are like & for me doubt i would play without any kind of bonus agaisnt RTG software it seems different to me )

help it helps you come up with some more interesting promos )

 

[spintee]

At 1st I did not think max withdraw and that was bad, But a 21 deposit with 125% bonus I had around 1400 to wager and max take out was 410, If you look at it that way its pretty bad,

As you can guess I busted pretty early and no where near wager, Like Jonesy said above you need a bonus try to and get a good start,

But if there the rules than fair enough, No one forces a wager on you,

 

[BMWSTACK]

To me sitting from a outside looking at it from a punter seat , alarms bells are ringing this is a basic function of damage control meaning a controlled stats for payouts? ( restricted )

)

Yes indeed its a great business plan FOR the casino. Great way to insure you wont have to make a large payout, like the $50,000 hit at Lucky Red I have seen here recently. If that person had hit that at Raging they would have got a much smaller portion. ( Unless of course they were the "highest VIP Level)

Almost anyone can open a casino by putting restrictions so you don't have to pay out the large amounts. So yes indeed it is alarming when someone wants to operate that way.

At 1st I did not think max withdraw and that was bad, But a 21 deposit with 125% bonus I had around 1400 to wager and max take out was 410, If you look at it that way its pretty bad,

,

Glad your starting to look at it that way. You gamble plenty, so if you get lucky some day and win a large sum you certainly deserve to withdraw it. I have hit plenty of large balances on deposits that small.

 

[spintee]

At 1st I did not think max withdraw and that was bad, But a 21 deposit with 125% bonus I had around 1400 to wager and max take out was 410, If you look at it that way its pretty bad,

As you can guess I busted pretty early and no where near wager, Like Jonesy said above you need a bonus try to and get a good start,

But if there the rules than fair enough, No one forces a wager on you,

Glad your starting to look at it that way. You gamble plenty, so if you get lucky some day and win a large sum you certainly deserve to withdraw it. I have hit plenty of large balances on deposits that small.

Your right, At first I did not truly think about it, But after a good few deposits there It seems to be worser every time I look,

Do not get me wrong as its up to the casino how they want to play it & us to decide if we take it, But it only takes 1 or to bonus rounds and game over, Max withdraw hit, I deposit no end at places but a small roller, So I would be happy to deposit small and take out 400 but now come to think of it I would be still happy but even angrier that money been took of me due to limits,

 

[BMWSTACK]

Your right, At first I did not truly think about it, But after a good few deposits there It seems to be worser every time I look,

Do not get me wrong as its up to the casino how they want to play it & us to decide if we take it, But it only takes 1 or to bonus rounds and game over, Max withdraw hit, I deposit no end at places but a small roller, So I would be happy to deposit small and take out 400 but now come to think of it I would be still happy but even angrier that money been took of me due to limits,

Yeah its a bad scenario. Just think if your the type of gambler that likes to deposit small, but will make lots of deposits in a session. You will never get ahead. For example: You deposit $25 at a time but you deposit 25 times over the course of a week, then you finally get a good hit for $1500.00, but you can only cashout $450. That doesn't even allow you to recover all your losses.

As I said before this model is PRO Casino and no way benefits the player. The casino protects themselves from having to pay a large win while the player can get in a hole large enough that they will never be able to climb out of.

 

[gagamel]

At 1st I did not think max withdraw and that was bad, But a 21 deposit with 125% bonus I had around 1400 to wager and max take out was 410, If you look at it that way its pretty bad,

As you can guess I busted pretty early and no where near wager, Like Jonesy said above you need a bonus try to and get a good start,

But if there the rules than fair enough, No one forces a wager on you,

No, that`s definately not good.

I did some maths and have to say that 20x your deposit cap sounds better than it actually is.

Point for BMW

 

[Jasminebed]

Every RTG Real Series slot has a progressive. Even if I deposit $50, if I am lucky enough to hit one, I'll lose part of that jackpot, a jackpot FUNDED BY PLAYERS.

I have no issues with max cashouts on free chips, and some very high bonuses I might consider, like when the max cashout is 3 to 5K. I can tailor my play to not win more than that, or at least not much more, lol.

I've hit one and only one Random Jackpot, for $4500. I am sure my deposit was 30 or 35 dollars. That's a big part of the RTP on the RTG platform.

You are free to set whatever bonus terms you like.

But you cannot in good faith tell us it's a reasonable deal.

If you have convinced yourself, you have certainly failed to convince me. I'd like to help players see just that.

It is also a bad model for player acquisition and retention. Do you think many players would return after their first "confiscation"? Even if they were aware of the rules. Smart ones will cash out immediately after meeting wagering. Usually with RTG coupon terms are in effect until cashout. It's good for the casino when your players play on, wanting to win more. Why play on, when you can't win more?

You don't know how many of those free chip takers actually read the Terms and Conditions and saw the max cashout on the first deposit. I do understand your reasoning on that one, and it is certainly made clear enough IMO. But when you came on board as a Rep, I did play the free chip. I'd had tons of spam for ages. I read the T&Cs with the intention of depositing.

I read all the terms and condition, simply would not ever consider taking that bonus. Not even had I won and you paid me on a chip.

If the casino needs to limit financial risk, it should look into insurance. I know such things exist in the industry, and the long-term gain should be worth it.

You can also offer higher playthrough

 

[SlotsLover]

Every RTG Real Series slot has a progressive. Even if I deposit $50, if I am lucky enough to hit one, I'll lose part of that jackpot, a jackpot FUNDED BY PLAYERS.

I have no issues with max cashouts on free chips, and some very high bonuses I might consider, like when the max cashout is 3 to 5K. I can tailor my play to not win more than that, or at least not much more, lol.

I've hit one and only one Random Jackpot, for $4500. I am sure my deposit was 30 or 35 dollars. That's a big part of the RTP on the RTG platform.

You are free to set whatever bonus terms you like.

But you cannot in good faith tell us it's a reasonable deal.

If you have convinced yourself, you have certainly failed to convince me. I'd like to help players see just that.

It is also a bad model for player acquisition and retention. Do you think many players would return after their first "confiscation"? Even if they were aware of the rules. Smart ones will cash out immediately after meeting wagering. Usually with RTG coupon terms are in effect until cashout. It's good for the casino when your players play on, wanting to win more. Why play on, when you can't win more?

You don't know how many of those free chip takers actually read the Terms and Conditions and saw the max cashout on the first deposit. I do understand your reasoning on that one, and it is certainly made clear enough IMO. But when you came on board as a Rep, I did play the free chip. I'd had tons of spam for ages. I read the T&Cs with the intention of depositing.

I read all the terms and condition, simply would not ever consider taking that bonus. Not even had I won and you paid me on a chip.

If the casino needs to limit financial risk, it should look into insurance. I know such things exist in the industry, and the long-term gain should be worth it.

You can also offer higher playthrough

It's really very simple: MAX CASHOUT = > NOT FAIR.

Increase rollover, monitor players more carefully, do whatever you need to do to protect yourself, but NO MAX CASHOUTS on Slots.

 

[brianmon]

I was going to give them a try today. But my neteller transaction was declined because they're not UKGC registered, and since I only normally use Neteller for gambling, I'll have to give them a miss

 

[Jono777]

Hi jonmincher,

Sorry for the late reply, I left the office early yesterday afternoon.

To answer your question, that is correct. Once you have made the verification deposit of $21, you may proceed to withdraw the $150 plus the $21 (total of $171). Thereafter you are more than welcome to make another deposit and claim the welcome offer.

Congrats on your initial win!

Best Regards
Jason

Cheers Jason, done the above, explained more in PM - thanks again, Jon