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Raging Bull Casino

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by gagamel, Aug 4, 2015.

    Aug 4, 2015
  1. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

    Occupation:
    Care Manager
    Location:
    Switzerland
    We have another active thread about this casino, but it has the bitter BITCH AND MOAN taste.

    I want to give the casino another thread and here we go.

    The 50 free was another RTG disaster and I tried the 300% bonus. Deposit was 50, 150 Bonus and the WR were 7000. Not good, not bad. Ah, the max. payout was 4500.

    I tried it and I was a bit lucky, 1369 to cash out. The bonus is cashable.

    I sent my docs in 10 minutes ago. I heard that the verification process is not a PITA. Now I will see.

    I will give the rep a PM that there is another thread about the casino. Maybe we can write here if the issue is not about wrong emaisl and such stuff.

    I will keep you informed about the cashout process:)
     
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  2. Aug 4, 2015
  3. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

    Occupation:
    Work
    Location:
    US
    Ok since its a new thread let me make sure that I state my opinion that max cashout is horrible on 50 % 77% and 100% match bonuses.

    Still waiting to see revised terms.

    On your cashout I think everyone including yourself knows it will go very smoothly especially since you posted about the "process" in public. The real way to get a true evaluation of the process is to not announce it in public and report back later. But with Raging Bull I don't believe I have really seen anything about delays.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2015
  5. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

    Occupation:
    Care Manager
    Location:
    Switzerland
    I know what you mean. My normal deposit with RTG casinos is 50$. It`s nearly impossible to make a cashout more than 4500$ with the WR you have there (I mean all RTG Casinos)

    I also have to say that I never play slots with high JP`s when playing a bonus.

    And I don`t play 10$ bets with 200 in my account. I know that a lot of players play that way.

    Not my way of palying slots.

    May I ask you how often you were able to cash out more than 30x your deposit?

    Thank you and cheers:)
     
  6. Aug 4, 2015
  7. bowlingbob

    bowlingbob Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    usa

    I've had cashouts of $8,500 off $30 deposit @ Bovada, over 4k off $20 at Cleos...So it can happen but keep playing with max cashouts on bonus and fool yourself its a good deal.
     
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  8. Aug 5, 2015
  9. SlotsLover

    SlotsLover Senior Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred3 MM PABinit PABaccred

    Occupation:
    teacher
    Location:
    California
    I could not agree more. I don't care what the max cashout is. NO MAX cashouts on slots. PERIOD. Would be like playing into a RTP of 60%. NO NO NO NO NO.
     
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  10. Aug 5, 2015
  11. cjh1969

    cjh1969 Experienced Member MM

    Occupation:
    Teacher
    Location:
    Milwaukee- USA
    Fee for withdrawals

    I went to live chat to see about setting up an account and making a $30 deposit using the 300% match but was told that players from the USA can only withdrawal using wire transfers and there is a $45 fee for the service. I will stick to the casinos that do not have such a high charge to withdrawal. I asked about paying back my debit card but live chat said no.
     
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  12. Aug 5, 2015
  13. JasonFTA

    JasonFTA Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Head of Affiliates Marketing
    Location:
    South Africa
    Good Day ladies and Gents.

    Thanks gagamel for creating the new thread.

    Let start with gagamel's post opening post. Firstly, thanks for making that initial deposit as well as congrats on the nice win (didn't break the bank, but I nice win nevertheless). It's always great to see guys have a good experience. As for the $50 free chip, I am sorry that it didn't go down to well.

    Regarding his cashout, him mention it here will not make a difference at all. The default pending period is 24 hours, there after it will be refunded to his Neteller account. Having said this, tomorrow is Friday and Monday is a banking holiday, so my suggestion is that gagamel initiates withdrawal process asap to ensure that it comes out of the pending state tomorrow morning early, so that my guys can prep it for payment.

    Max cashouts are here to stay especially on the welcome bonus where we are giving you 3 x your deposit in bonus cash. Yes there is wagering attached to it and yes there are other brands that don't limit the cashouts, but we are not other Brands. We are a new brand and trying hard to build a solid operation. We have implemented a VIP program where your cashout terms are determined by your VIP status, with the top tier having no max cashouts. You guys want loyal and trustworthy casinos and we want loyal and trustworthy players. Is that so hard to understand.

    Yes, there are max cashouts on the 77% bonus but we are doing away with that offer soon. We just in the middle of a few other projects which includes a NEW brand.

    Wins have nothing to do with the size of the deposit or the bonus. We had players the other day that took her balance fro $1.70 to $14,0000 cashable (and that was after redeeming comp points).

    What is the objective of a bonus?

    @ cjh1969 - regarding fees. Unfortunately, we only offer a wire option as a withdrawal option. We are currently looking into other options. If you know of or can suggest options which you have come across recently, please feel free to bring them to my attention. I will gladly reward you with a little something for your suggestions.

    I am not scared to admit when we are wrong or try to hide mistakes. I am here to set the story straight and correct the wrongs where necessary.

    Thanks to all the guys out there have given Raging Bull a try and for their feedback, both negative and positive!

    Best Regards
    Jason (AKA The Machine) ...lol...
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2015
  14. Aug 5, 2015
  15. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    Poor top tier players :(


    :p
     
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  16. Aug 5, 2015
  17. JasonFTA

    JasonFTA Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Head of Affiliates Marketing
    Location:
    South Africa

    Oops.... NO MAX CASHOUTS.....lol.... I am blaming that on "having the bad case of the flu"

    Thanks for pointing that out for me... you a star!

    Regards
    Jason
     
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  18. Aug 5, 2015
  19. JasonFTA

    JasonFTA Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Head of Affiliates Marketing
    Location:
    South Africa
    FYI - we recently moved our emails onto the "cloud". I have just received feedback from my IT guys that there are problems currently with mails not filtering through correctly for the past few hours. If you mailed support your docs etc and have not received a confirmation reply yet, this could be the reason for the delay.

    Feel free to drop me a PM if you need anything or chat to my support guys via live chat if needed.

    Have a great day!

    Regards
    Jason
     
  20. Aug 5, 2015
  21. JasonFTA

    JasonFTA Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Head of Affiliates Marketing
    Location:
    South Africa
    Hi Folks,

    I am back..... it's 17:20 and I will be leaving the office at 18:00 (if I am lucky). The reason for me popping in is that I am as sick a dog and will not be in the office tomorrow. The way I currently feel, I don't think I will be back in the office before Monday next week.

    I don't want to make any promises, but I will do my best to try and pop in to assist where possible.

    If I don't get to chat to you all before the weekend, have a great weekend and take care!

    Best Regards
    Jason
     
  22. Aug 5, 2015
  23. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

    Occupation:
    Work
    Location:
    US
    I am not sure what playthrough has to do with you winning a large amount? I guess the only answer could be is you cash out right after WR is made if you have a win? (very smart way to do it if that's the case).

    I never concern myself with WR because I play long sessions.

    Yes I in the years and years playing I have won 30x my bet TONS of times. Had balances over 10k lots of times. On RTG I deposit from $25 to $75 multiple times in a session. Also I do not bet high often. $2.50 would be average high bet. Balances that get over 10k yes have $5-$12.50 bets in there.

    BTW why are you mention $4500? You say you deposit $50, and I have seen lots of bonuses at 25x MAX, that means your Max cashout is $1250 or $1500 on the 30x you mentioned. I get balances well above those amounts on $50 deposits all the time.

    I see you are ok with Max cashout because you say " I never win large amounts". I almost think that the casinos with max cashouts brainwash people into that kind of attitude. Could you imagine a sports team that before a game says "we are not going to win because the other team is better."

    Max cashouts are here to stay:what: That's not encouraging. Again on a large % bonuses I can possibly understand like the Welcome bonus.

    You mention other brands? Your an RTG casino!!! That's the bottom line. You can try to provide better service,payment time and terms to separate yourself. But your terms put you at the bottom of list compared to a few of the others that I will mention in the next sentence. Go look at the successful ones that have been around for a while, Clubworld, Inetbet, Jackpot capital. I honestly don't know any reputable RTG out there that has Max Cashouts. The only ones I can recall that have Max cashout are either ROGUE or OUT OF BUSINESS.

    You keep mentioning your casino wanting Loyal and Trustworthy Players, and you have mentioned people who may commit fraud. I think you may have mentioned that's part of the reason you have Max Cashouts. Peoples shouldnt really have to be bothered with fraud problems you may be having. That's the casinos business. And if your having problems then you should look at internal procedures. Going and capping wins is not the solutions.

    That's great your removing the max cashout from 77% bonus. how about 50% and 100%? Also you say your in the middle of a project and don't have time to do it now. How long does it take to remove a term? Or are you saying that the cap needs to remain while trying to fund the new brand?

    You may be sensitive to me not speaking so positive, but maybe there are some good points.
     
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  24. Aug 5, 2015
  25. rena35

    rena35 Senior Member

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    writing/poetry
    Location:
    cyber space


    Get well soon Jason .
     
  26. Aug 5, 2015
  27. JasonFTA

    JasonFTA Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Head of Affiliates Marketing
    Location:
    South Africa
    Hi BMWSTACK,

    Yeah, the max cashout is here to stay on the WELCOME OFFER (which is a 300% Match). It's not about removing the term, it's about doing away with the current retention offers and replacing them with NEW ones. We have the outline of the new offers, we just need to roll them out. I personally think the term ROUGE gets used to freely. We are not other brands that cheat players and shave affiliated players etc. So I can't understand why you keep on compairing my brands with these other brands.

    That's great that you enjoy and trust Clubworld, Inetbet and Jackpot capital, but these are all brands that have established trustworthy databases over the years.

    We trying to grow our player base and if it means not having players of your caliber playing at our casino's then so be it.

    All I am asking is that you guys bear with us. We not capping the max cashouts or taking our time changing out the offers because we trying to fund our new brand. We are a small group of hard working guys and gals who are trying their best to build an honest and trustworthy brand.

    We have lots of players who are comfortable playing with the current promos. These are players who game for the fun of it and not to gain financial benefits. Guys who are happy to deposit a 100 bucks receive 77 bonus and get lucky enough to cashout 2 grand (which is 20 x their deposit).

    Once again, my question is "What is the objective of a bonus?"

    Regards
    Jason
     
  28. Aug 5, 2015
  29. JasonFTA

    JasonFTA Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Head of Affiliates Marketing
    Location:
    South Africa
    Thanks Rena35

    Have a lovely day and take care my dear.

    Regards
    Jason
     
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  30. Aug 5, 2015
  31. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    On the rest of Planet Earth tomorrow is Thursday.:)
     
  32. Aug 5, 2015
  33. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

    Occupation:
    Care Manager
    Location:
    Switzerland
    My highest amout I ever cashed out with slots was about 3000 Euros two times with DOA and no bonus (deposit was 150 which is 20x my deposit)

    And yes, if I play with a bonus and the WR are fulfilled I cash out and run away. And my sessions are always only one deposit, I never make a new deposit the same day.

    I never play more per spin than my bankroll divided with 250-300 (depends on the slot)

    I see your points very well and I accept them all. But I have to say that we are two very different types of players.
     
  34. Aug 6, 2015
  35. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

    Occupation:
    Care Manager
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Yesterday in the evening I made my withdrawal. I don`t know if the mail received before or shortly after.

    Hi Sascha

    Username:

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    Happy Gaming!
    Robert Green

    I know that I can`t deposit with a pending withdrawal. Asked CS and they told me to stay cool until my withdrawal is processed.

    This evening I had another mail from the casino:

    Hi Sascha

    Username:


    We want RAGING BULL to be your new RTG home and here’s why…

    We’ve been in the digital entertainment industry for years, we know the territory, and we know how to spoil our players with *excellent service, quality games and great promotions like…

    $35 ON THE HOUSE - No Deposit Required - USE CODE: HOME35

    and 100% MATCH UP TO $200 PLUS 40 FREE SPINS on your next deposit - USE CODE: HOME100

    If you have VIP status at your current casino, contact our VIP Helpdesk about our brand new Rewards Program and we’ll place you where you deserve.

    RAGING BULL <<< You’re just a click away from the time of your life!

    See you in the lobby!

    Jason

    Ok, thank you very much Jason.

    My questions are:

    Can I take the coupons while my withdrawal is pending?

    If I can take them, what happens with my withdrawal?

    Why do you sent such promos to players who have a pending withdrawal?

    Do you cancel my withdrawal and confiscate my winnings when I take your offers?

    Thank you very much for answering my maybe stupid questions
     
  36. Aug 7, 2015
  37. JasonFTA

    JasonFTA Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Head of Affiliates Marketing
    Location:
    South Africa
    Morning Ladies and Gents. Still ill... booked off with bronchitis. My bad, I had my days mixed up so you were correct with it being "Thursday" yesterday! I must admit I felt so ill, it felt as if I were on another planet....lol...

    To answer your questions, you can deposit if you have a pending withdrawal. You can also claim a coupon if you have a pending cashin, just as long as you don't reverse your withdrawal with and active coupon still on your account otherwise the reversed withdrawal will be tied into the wagering of that coupon.

    Does this answer your questions?

    Regards
    Jason
     
  38. Aug 7, 2015
  39. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

    Occupation:
    Care Manager
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Yes, thank you very much Jason.:)
     

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