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colinsunderland

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When I’ve been self employed I’ve always had payslips, every single job mate.

obviously affiliation won’t give you a payslip I’m guessing, but can’t your payments from whoever or whatever affy program you are with be counted legitimately as your income?

guessing it’s different when your a affy, dunover nick etc had loads of issues with casumo, saying it’s as they are self employed, well I was self employed when I done mine with them and it was a breeze as had payslips from work.

guessing it’s the affiliation as job title that’s the issue for casinos.
mate, if you're self employed you don't get payslips. From your industry were you not set up under an umbrella/ltd company or something? Or did you fall under the terrible IR35 rule? But still, you would get a payslip from the Ltd co, not the company you were subbing for surely? Other than that, if you were working for an agency then you would be classed as employed and get payslips.

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Who gets a payslip

Employers must give all their employees and workers payslips, by law.

Workers can include people on zero-hours contracts and agency workers.

Agency workers get their payslips from their agency.

People who are self-employed do not get payslips, because they organise paying tax and other deductions themselves. This is unless they get employed by an agency for a job, in which case for the duration of the job they become a worker and the agency must give them payslips.

Other types of work where people do not get payslips are:

the armed forces
police
merchant seamen and women
where they get paid by a share in the profits or gross earnings of a fishing vessel


It's against the terms of all affiliate programs to give details of your earnings to another rival company, so if I want to keep my earnings I can't do that. It's not just that though. All affiliate terms tend to say something along the lines of 'you agree to promote us the best you can or we reserve the right to close your account and no earnings will be paid'. Not in those words, but close enough.
So, I have a casino who I get a little residual income from, and haven't sent any customers to for around 2 years. They sent me a SoW recently. If I send my affiliate stats from the previous 3/4 months, one alone will show over 300 sign ups. If they see that, then thats grounds for them to close my account. Now the earnings aren't great from them and it wouldn't be a big loss if that happened, but times it by 20 companies all doing the same, and it would. So the chances of me sending affiliate account details to another casino are pretty much zero.

They also won't accept just bank statements as proof of income, they want to see things like certified accounts. I don't have certified accounts, I don't need them, and did part of an accounting degree a while back (got bored) so certainly know enough to do my own accounts. I'm not going to pay an accountant £750+ to do a set of books up, what only purpose would be to send to a Maltese casino, who don't understand the law, but if any are reading this and want to pay the accountancy fee, then feel free and I'll send the accounts over when they are done :). Just to put it into perspective, my accounts are fine for HMRC, fine for a bank, yet not for a casino.
 

Playford7

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mate, if you're self employed you don't get payslips. From your industry were you not set up under an umbrella/ltd company or something? Or did you fall under the terrible IR35 rule? But still, you would get a payslip from the Ltd co, not the company you were subbing for surely? Other than that, if you were working for an agency then you would be classed as employed and get payslips.

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Who gets a payslip

Employers must give all their employees and workers payslips, by law.

Workers can include people on zero-hours contracts and agency workers.

Agency workers get their payslips from their agency.

People who are self-employed do not get payslips, because they organise paying tax and other deductions themselves. This is unless they get employed by an agency for a job, in which case for the duration of the job they become a worker and the agency must give them payslips.

Other types of work where people do not get payslips are:

the armed forces
police
merchant seamen and women
where they get paid by a share in the profits or gross earnings of a fishing vessel


It's against the terms of all affiliate programs to give details of your earnings to another rival company, so if I want to keep my earnings I can't do that. It's not just that though. All affiliate terms tend to say something along the lines of 'you agree to promote us the best you can or we reserve the right to close your account and no earnings will be paid'. Not in those words, but close enough.
So, I have a casino who I get a little residual income from, and haven't sent any customers to for around 2 years. They sent me a SoW recently. If I send my affiliate stats from the previous 3/4 months, one alone will show over 300 sign ups. If they see that, then thats grounds for them to close my account. Now the earnings aren't great from them and it wouldn't be a big loss if that happened, but times it by 20 companies all doing the same, and it would. So the chances of me sending affiliate account details to another casino are pretty much zero.

They also won't accept just bank statements as proof of income, they want to see things like certified accounts. I don't have certified accounts, I don't need them, and did part of an accounting degree a while back (got bored) so certainly know enough to do my own accounts. I'm not going to pay an accountant £750+ to do a set of books up, what only purpose would be to send to a Maltese casino, who don't understand the law, but if any are reading this and want to pay the accountancy fee, then feel free and I'll send the accounts over when they are done :). Just to put it into perspective, my accounts are fine for HMRC, fine for a bank, yet not for a casino.
Sorry just lack of understanding on my behalf.

And thinking back your correct, when I was self employed I did get payslips but they where paid into a limited company set up, or I’d get a wage paid into whatever company name I set up, but on the face of it I always had a payslip.
 

colinsunderland

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Sorry just lack of understanding on my behalf.

And thinking back your correct, when I was self employed I did get payslips but they where paid into a limited company set up, or I’d get a wage paid into whatever company name I set up, but on the face of it I always had a payslip.
That was the type of job you had though, most self employed don't set up ltd companies so they don't get them. People in the building type game tend to for tax reasons, and are actively encouraged to by the employer, so they don't have to give you employee rights.
 

Playford7

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That was the type of job you had though, most self employed don't set up ltd companies so they don't get them. People in the building type game tend to for tax reasons, and are actively encouraged to by the employer, so they don't have to give you employee rights.
Basically this lol!

i wasn’t being funny mate, never knew you couldn’t just show your affy payments to a casino to sort SOW nonsense out.
 

steveyboy

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Have had email from race starting without documents requested they by law cannot process withdrawal.replied back asking why when withdrawal was made 24th and request for docs was 28th is that correct or not.
 

Playford7

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Have had email from race starting without documents requested they by law cannot process withdrawal.replied back asking why when withdrawal was made 24th and request for docs was 28th is that correct or not.
They sometimes are generic emails mate, I had a similar issue when I was asked for docs.

did you say @Jan was helping you out?
 

Playford7

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yes for people like you
I beg your pardon?

what exactly would you mean by this? I’m never hormonal, infact I’m always pretty cool and stress free dude.

hope your had a good Xmas and all the best for new year.
 

DeidreB

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I had just asked for email/username so I can have a look.
I am having an issue with getting a withdrawal processed with this casino too, provided all documents that they requested, asked how long it takes to get verified, they cannot tell me, its been a week. Pretty poor, I guess they have no standards for getting withdrawals processed, wouldn't deposit there again..
 

L&L-Jan

Affiliate Manager for Accredited Casinos
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Location
Malta
I am having an issue with getting a withdrawal processed with this casino too, provided all documents that they requested, asked how long it takes to get verified, they cannot tell me, its been a week. Pretty poor, I guess they have no standards for getting withdrawals processed, wouldn't deposit there again..
Pm username/email and ill check tomorrow... kr. Jan
 
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