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Andrea: If you would like to deposit with quicktender you can withdraw using any method that you like that is avaliable for your accounts. All the methods are listed in the cashier section of your account

jane : Ok, is this because of the problems with QT at the moment?

Andrea: I am not sure what the problems are with quicktender have you contacted quicktender to see what the issues are?

jane : Oh, yes. The USA has had a prob with QT, maybe because of the Depart Of Justice or QT was hacked...but I have received emails, alongside with many other casino users as to this problem

jane : SO, is it standard practice at CW to allow QT depositors to be able to withdraw using any other methods ?

Andrea: yes you can use other methods to withdraw you can use your bank accout to withdraw or you can register with mypaylinq or moneyline wallet and withdraw

jane : May I use a direct wire to my bank?

jane: from your casino

jane : if using QT?

jane : to depsoit?

jane : deposit

Andrea: I'll see what option will be avaliable

jane : ok, thanks

Andrea: If you have more than $350 in your account when you want to withdraw you can use ACH to withdraw

Andrea: Which is like wire transfer

jane: SO , it's ok to withdraw using ACH,IF I deposit using QT? (Sorry if I am being a head-banging case-against-the-computer-monitor, but it is important before I deposit in case there is a problem when I want to withdraw after I deposit using QT)

Andrea: I have just double checked this with my supervisor and if you can deposit using quicktender you will be able to withdraw using ACH

jane : OK, Andrea! Thanks so much and sorry for being a pain. I truly appreciate your patience with me. Have a good night/day! :)

Andrea: That's no problem this is what i am here for to help :)

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Andrea: All the best in the casino

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My money is "cleared" in my QT account.

The status on the transaction changed to "Withdrawal returned by Bank".

So now the question is....

Do I wait and see if we are able to withdrawal from QT in the next few days

or

Do I get the money out of QT asap and into CW (thanks secret2 for your recent post)

What is everyone gonna do?
 
(sorry for all the posts)

When I click on withdrawal on the QT site is goes to a page titled "New Withdrawal Wire Transfer". Has this always been there throughout this whole mess? Is the withdrawal option fixed and now available? I tried live support but they are unavailable (suprise)... so I left a message asking them if they were doing bank wires again.
 
(sorry for all the posts)

When I click on withdrawal on the QT site is goes to a page titled "New Withdrawal Wire Transfer". Has this always been there throughout this whole mess? Is the withdrawal option fixed and now available? I tried live support but they are unavailable (suprise)... so I left a message asking them if they were doing bank wires again.
Yes it has.
But for the last week it has not worked.
But if your account says the money is cleared... you should be able to withdraw. But who knows what is going on with them.

Why be sorry for your posts? :confused:
 
Is CW... Club World Casino? I am not seeing the option to deposit via UseMyWallet.
Sorry, Candee...

CW, doesn't as of right now...I never checked that out until after my chat session!. MY bad

BUT, JC does and JUST SO YOU KNOW!!!..I did not ask JC CS that question about the QT and withdrawel part.

SO sorry for my lapse in clarity.

It's Friday, long week...my bad (backing off slowly into my comfy, homey retreat:o;))
 
Just in case some of you missed it, I was in contact with QT yesterday and have made the following announcement:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/quicktender-use-my-wallet.44132/

In other words - you can make deposits via QT - you just can't make a withdrawal. There may be other withdrawal methods at whatever casino; contact the casino support for any further guidance or information. QT is working on a withdrawal solution at the moment.

Have a nice weekend y'all. :D
 
Perfect Business Model. QT accepts deposits but won't allow withdrawals.
How can I invest in this company? They can't possibly lose money.

its frustrating we/ I know but there [QT] at the top of all other solutions in general
the usa isn't free any more , what else would any other rogue country want [but there citizens money ] they dont want your /mine debts
they suck at best right now = R C
 
I'm thinking that the accounts showing cleared are the withdrawals that was sent to the UK bank but hadn't been forwarded to the US so that money was returned to QT. The accounts showing an un-cleared amount are withdrawals sent to the US and has not been replaced. There's no money there to clear. They just added that amount on your account page hoping to fool you into thinking they replaced it.
 
Be patient and have faith in qt they have served us well over the yrs and they deserve us to give them trust they are working on a solution for us all. I would just not touch the money consider it a savings of some type, I know its a loss for many don't get me wrong but I do believe there is light at the end of the tunnel.
 
i dont know what happened but like i said before & showed proof here that i got paid on the 19th from qt the money was in my bank acct. when all this mess happened...so i was surprised when i took a nap yesterday & checked my email after waking to find the letter from qt saying that they put my withdrawal back in my qt account...i figured it was a mistake..checked qt they put it back....SHOCKED....
 
Oh I have no doubt that QT is working hard to re-establish their security.

I just don't like the idea that they are misleading people into thinking that the DOJ seized the money... When THEY(not us) were just ripped off by hackers.

The shadow of the doj is a dark one and I understand after Black Friday why everyone would first assume it was the doj that seized the money.

I also understand that QT thinks it is not in QT's best interest to admit that they were ripped off.

This started May 6th, it is now May 21... Over two weeks and QT is still telling the public that they don't know what happened to the money???
Who could possibly believe this???

Over 2 weeks now and the DOJ has not crowed one singe time about another seizure (think about how the doj acted after black Friday - you couldn't shut them up about what they did, doj banners all over FT and PS etc. Same thing when the doj went after Neteller, you couldn't read a news article with out hearing about the DOJ Neteller seizure.)
But not a single word about this... Even after the money has supposedly stopped coming from QT????

A single call from QT to the bank in question would clear this all up... And no one has made that call in two weeks???
Again what moron is going to believe this???

I just want HONESTY from the people I trust to handle my money.
Without honesty... No Way I can begin to trust these people, and it is beyond me, how anyone could trust them if they are not being truthful and upfront about what happened to our money...
 
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paid 2x?

i dont know what happened but like i said before & showed proof here that i got paid on the 19th from qt the money was in my bank acct. when all this mess happened...so i was surprised when i took a nap yesterday & checked my email after waking to find the letter from qt saying that they put my withdrawal back in my qt account...i figured it was a mistake..checked qt they put it back....SHOCKED....

So the money was actually in your bank and now it's no longer in your bank? Or did QT put the money back into your QT account by mistake and now you have double?
 
So the money was actually in your bank and now it's no longer in your bank? Or did QT put the money back into your QT account by mistake and now you have double?

DOUBLE...qt payed my bank on the 19th then put the money back in my account yesterday...

i spent the money they put in my account - minus the transaction fees the back charged..

so yes i got paid twice
 
Oh I have no doubt that QT is working hard to re-establish their security.

I just want HONESTY from the people I trust to handle my money.
Without honesty... No Way I can begin to trust these people, and it is beyond me, how anyone could trust them if they are not being truthful and upfront about what happened to our money...

This may be morphing but I just cpuld not resist.

Do you want honest wall street bankers like Goldman Sachs who bundled worthless mortgages and sold them to investors and at the same time go and buy insurance on those mortgages knowing they(the bad mortgages) would fail....And these guys made millions personally for making so much money for the company
 
DOUBLE...qt payed my bank on the 19th then put the money back in my account yesterday...

i spent the money they put in my account - minus the transaction fees the back charged..

so yes i got paid twice
The hacking must have been worse than I first thought.


This may be morphing but I just cpuld not resist.

Do you want honest wall street bankers like Goldman Sachs who bundled worthless mortgages and sold them to investors and at the same time go and buy insurance on those mortgages knowing they(the bad mortgages) would fail....And these guys made millions personally for making so much money for the company
I don't care about that wall street crap. I just want the people I do business with to be Honest. I really don't think that is too much to ask... do you? :)

I just keep hoping that QT will be able to cover all their losses.

I think this PONZY scheme, where they take money in, but they don't let any money out. Has a lot to do with covering all their losses.
 
The hacking must have been worse than I first thought.



I don't care about that wall street crap. I just want the people I do business with to be Honest. I really don't think that is too much to ask... do you? :)

I just keep hoping that QT will be able to cover all their losses.

I think this PONZY scheme, where they take money in, but they don't let any money out. Has a lot to do with covering all their losses.

Depending on how their balance sheets look with casinos (inetbet gave a clue?) You could be right there.
But to be fair, they are letting money out to casinos (see point #1) that savvy players can cash out.

If I owned a high variance slots casino that had the facility in place to process withdraws I would open my doors to the gambling forums announcing a one time play through 20% bonus and convert the masses to my brand. But there would be some who would view that as predatory?
 
Depending on how their balance sheets look with casinos (inetbet gave a clue?) You could be right there.
But to be fair, they are letting money out to casinos (see point #1) that savvy players can cash out.
Agreed, with one exception. Most of the money is in a trap door loop right now.

If I owned a high variance slots casino that had the facility in place to process withdraws I would open my doors to the gambling forums announcing a one time play through 20% bonus and convert the masses to my brand. But there would be some who would view that as predatory?
lol.. that would be my guess. ;)
 
Sunday morning and QT is currently answering questions on their chat...

Problem is they have no information other than that their management are working non-stop to 'fix' things.

Well at least they are talking now... even if they don't have anything to say.
 
I think they always were talking, though nothing most wanted to hear.
What I noticed with chat was it would go from the busy (not available) to available if you waited long enough watching it. I got through a couple times in the early start off this just by watching and waiting. Guess they were over jammed with chats most the time, and that is why it seemed they were always off.

Now that most know the situation it is a little easier to get on chat - not all the time, but easier.

How did you get your bear Avatar bigger? Can't figure out why mine is so small.
 
I think they always were talking, though nothing most wanted to hear.
What I noticed with chat was it would go from the busy (not available) to available if you waited long enough watching it. I got through a couple times in the early start off this just by watching and waiting. Guess they were over jammed with chats most the time, and that is why it seemed they were always off.

Now that most know the situation it is a little easier to get on chat - not all the time, but easier.

How did you get your bear Avatar bigger? Can't figure out why mine is so small.
I think you may be right.
I did the same thing, watching, waiting and clicking repeatedly... till I would either get tired or get someone on chat.

Hey... Bears are just big, what can I say. :D
Actually, I think it has to do with original image size, but I may be wrong.
 
I think you may be right.
I did the same thing, watching, waiting and clicking repeatedly... till I would either get tired or get someone on chat.

Hey... Bears are just big, what can I say. :D
Actually, I think it has to do with original image size, but I may be wrong.

It has to do with user status; as a newish member, BJDC has less privilege than the tenured lots0....
 
Its been suggested...

Be patient and have faith in qt they have served us well over the yrs and they deserve us to give them trust they are working on a solution for us all. I would just not touch the money consider it a savings of some type, I know its a loss for many don't get me wrong but I do believe there is light at the end of the tunnel.

EWX was like the "Dicks last Resort" of E-wallets. They were short, crass, unhelpful, but the food, er, the product, was damn good...
They screwed us... Rather they screwed me, and I dont expect to see that money ever again... EWX served us well over the years, bc they were raking in profits. And as soon as the profits were jeopardized, they have not been forthwith with ANY of us... They ran for the hills.

And UMW may very well be doing the same...

So have faith in wtf u choose, but realize that it maybe tied up in a fantasy tale, complete with origin story, and ur monies may likely never be recovered... No matter how often you are charitable and obey the golden rule, and let priests get away...Oops, NM...

On the other hand, they may very well take the lost funds in the chin, and recoup our funds... IDK what the grand total is as far as w/d's which have not made it home, but I know I have close to $6k tied into this UMW at the moment...

CM had recommended not keeping large sums in the UMW system... But I dont understand where that leaves me to put them? Anyone?

Finally, It has been suggested by a member here that in fact, UMW is not being honest about why this whole issue started... Maybe, this theory asserted, they were hacked and jacked, not victim of the DoJ at all? Some one else said that to them, this theory made sense, bc the DoJ enjoys bragging about their dirty work... I had an opposing POV originally stating that besides the Black Friday seizure, in fact much of the DoJ's work in freezing online gambling related funds had gone largely undocumented by the media, and listed a number of examples...

I retract my opinion on this UMW case... I now believe that the bear made insightful and brilliant observations which led him to conclude what I now believe to be the most plausible scenario: UMW got hacked! Prolly big! Prolly affecting their other arms like EcoCard and UseMYBank and UseMyWhatevers...

And they may have lost much much more than the sum of all of these delayed w/d's... And they are not being honest, IMO. They have yet to be honest, IMO. In fact, they claim that they are working 'nonstop' to resolve this issue. Yet I offer proof to the contrary, and possibly an explanation as to why this whole security problem arose, possibly, in the first place:

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Anyone think hackers take the weekends off?
 
Quicktender put my money back into my quicktender account under the "uncleared" withdrawals. I cannot withdraw it, I can't do anything but look at the withdrawal that has been "processing" for two weeks. Any one else have any new updates?
 
Here is one:

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It's online for me now.

I don't suspect that QuickTender is gonna pull a "LOL BAI" with the money. They've been the most transparent e-wallet I've seen facing the US, especially when compared to the eWalletXpress fiasco.

Of course, you would be an idiot to leave amounts in there just in case Big Brother does decide to seize it.
 
It's online for me now.

I don't suspect that QuickTender is gonna pull a "LOL BAI" with the money. They've been the most transparent e-wallet I've seen facing the US, especially when compared to the eWalletXpress fiasco.

Of course, you would be an idiot to leave amounts in there just in case Big Brother does decide to seize it.

Well, I feel like an idiot, but I dont know what I can do... They wont let me deposit, and they wont let me withdraw... So I am an idiot. But not by choice...
 
I feel horrible for all the people that have there money tied up or lost. I had this happen to me last month when echeck went away from the U.S. and I had no way of contacting them and finding out where my money was. They just went away.. lucky for me riverbelle was able to give me back 700 dollars of my missing money which I ended up transferring to my bank.

At this point, the fact quicktender is communicating the problem is a good sign. I really think they are telling the truth and the money is frozen. I am sure there is more investigation going on, and a lot more developments will be coming forth soon. There will be a lot more things coming to light in the near future. i personally thought quicktender would be gone from the U.S. in a matter months and even told several casinos this when trying to cash out. the casinos still forced me to cash out to quicktender for the same policy reasons that Inetbet has. Lucky for me I withdrew from quicktender before all this happened. I didn't even realize this was going on until a few hours ago. I have been depositing and playing via usemywallet for a few days now and lucky for me I was able to cancel some withdrawals before my money was sent to quicktender. i had a decent withdrawal from 3dice I submitted to quicktender and they didn't transfer it for almost 48 hours and I reversed it.

For me personally, all the sites I currently have money on offer different withdrawal options besides quicktender, which I am very lucky for! And, one of them is not accredited but always pays me directly to my bank for a nominal fee.

The bottom line is that the U.S. is cracking down and people need to be very carefulr where they put their money. I was already being more careful after the poker sites went down/ This is just the tip of the iceberg, but the reason i cashed my quicktender money to my bank a month ago, was because I was worried and knew something could happen. It was my first withdrawal to my bank. I never withdrew before because I just use the money mainly for entertainment! I just wanted to get the money to my bank so I could play again.

I really hope the U.S. figures this out soon, because I hate going to the smoke filled indian casino's just to lose my money to machines that are tighter than a girl on prom night!!

Again, I am very sorry for everyone that is having their money tied up and feel horrible for you guys. Do not lose to much sleep over it everyone, because I am sure your money is safe and you will get it eventually. I think there will be way more sites leaving the U.S. market completely soon, and way more problems arising. Just be careful of whatever you and try not to keep too much money tied up because we do not know what will happen next. I also wanted to say that as far as quicktender having a contract to protect your money, I do not believe this is true. I feel that thye can simply say it is illegal and therefore any contract with them is void. Lucky for us, they seem honest and will make sure everyone gets paid.
 
Another Monday morning come and gone and STILL not a word, other than that non-statement that says nothing.

Time to write the money off.

If we haven't heard anything by now... then the chances are we never will.
The folks at QT have had more than enough time to hide all the assets that we might have been able to attach.

And they are still taking deposits...

What a ripp off...

If your still WISHING and hoping that these guys at QT are going to do the right thing and give us back our money... suck it up and face facts... we got ripped off.

The fact they are still talking to us just means they still want people to make deposits and everyone that makes a deposit without a way to withdraw is getting ripped off.

I really wish they would give us our money, but they are NOT going too and they are not going to stop taking deposits... why should they? IT'S FREE MONEY to them.
 
Starting to agree with lotso here.

Think this is an imploded ponzi scheme. Once black friday hit, and everyone wanted there money, there wasn't enough coming in to cover what was going out.

Im sick over this, having mid xx,xxx stuck in there. Combined with some money i have stuck in some poker rooms, i got royally screwed
 
I guess I was wrong QT/UMW funds were seized by the US GOVERNMENT

Here is the Affidavit
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In sections 10 & 11 of the bank seizures

10.Thecontentsofaccountnumber0243058780inthenameofChargestreamLtdatABNAMROBankNV(FKA:FortisBankNetherlandNV)locatedintheNetherlands.

11.Thecontentsofaccountnumber0242087787inthenameofChargestrearnLtdatABNAMROBankNV(FKA:FortisBankNetherlandNV)locatedintheNetherlands.


Chargestream is QT/UMW
 
this is getting worse and worse each day....am I to worry about the check from Bodog that should of come a week ago or the wire from EuroPartners that should of hit my bank days ago???
 
I guess I was wrong QT/UMW funds were seized by the US GOVERNMENT

Here is the Affidavit
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In sections 10 & 11 of the bank seizures

10.Thecontentsofaccountnumber0243058780inthenameofChargestreamLtdatABNAMROBankNV(FKA:FortisBankNetherlandNV)locatedintheNetherlands.

11.Thecontentsofaccountnumber0242087787inthenameofChargestrearnLtdatABNAMROBankNV(FKA:FortisBankNetherlandNV)locatedintheNetherlands.


Chargestream is QT/UMW

Nice find Lotso! You are so on top of everything!

From the affidavit:
"...the contents of these accounts constitutes the proceeds of an illegal gambling business and is forfeitable..."

My question now is why did QT put money back into some accounts and actually "clear" the funds. Pretty sure my withdrawal was definetely part of the seizure. I withdrew $1400 on May 4th. It was confirmed on the 6th. Went missing until May 20th. It was then put back into my account and the transaction status was marked "withdrawal returned by bank" My $1400 is listed as CLEARED.

Why would they do this if the money was taken by DOJ?
Was it because they are just being kind and takin the loss themselves?
Did the DOJ give back some of the funds to specific accounts and keep others?
Did QT recover some of the money back (unlikely) and are giving back some of the smaller withdrawals or maybe giving back in the order they were applied for?
Are the people here that have their funds "uncleared" in it for large amounts like over 2 grand?

It is just all so confussing. I am not complaining that my funds came back to be cleared... (actually it really makes no difference whether it is cleared or uncleared since we cant do anything with it anyways) but I am just trying to make since of this whole fiasco.
 
this is getting worse and worse each day....am I to worry about the check from Bodog that should of come a week ago or the wire from EuroPartners that should of hit my bank days ago???

Ummm ya. I might worry a bit.

:( I am just really sorry to all of you getting caught up in this. I know some of you have a whole lot of money hanging in the balance.
 

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