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QT????

Question?

Do those that can still login from U.S. have funds in their QT account.

I cannot login but I have no funds. Maybe only those with funds or confiscated payments can log in?

I have been trying to contact them regarding my account information, basically to delete old credit card information and current accounts I was using and to print out my account history "report".

Emailed them and Eco Card to no avail.
 
abby14 said:
She said that she contacted her bank and they will accept funds in Euros. They gave her all the information she needed to process the withdrawal. Well we will she if she gets it. Do you think there will ever be a way for us in the USA to to get our funds from QT.
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YES.....into a NON US bank account in EUROS.

ANY bank will accept any currency and convert it into the account holders currency. The point is that QT will only send funds to NON US accounts. Otherwise, they will be committing the same offence they were indicted for which the DOJ will not allow.

I should have given up while I had the chance ksech....
 
footdr said:
Do those that can still login from U.S. have funds in their QT account.

I cannot login but I have no funds. Maybe only those with funds or confiscated payments can log in?

I have been trying to contact them regarding my account information, basically to delete old credit card information and current accounts I was using and to print out my account history "report".

Emailed them and Eco Card to no avail.
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Cant be, i have a large balance there, both cleared and uncleared. I cant log in, Password is correct, when i try to log in it just loops back to log in screen ..

If i try to reset password, tells me account is locked.

I send a few emails to all there different addresses asking for help, no response yet.

I also sent them my bank info in another email, maybe thell answer that.

Think Bingot is having the same problem and cant log in either
 
In Kentucky, can't log in either....and I know the pw is correct.

So forgive me for being stupid, but is there a way we can use someone elses bank info to get paid if it's a Non USA account and in Euros? Or must the account be in the person's name the QT account is in?

I have just under $500 there....
 
Well why can some login and others cant?

Can someone from U.S. that CAN login chat with QT support and ask why?
 
I can't log in either, but I was wondering something.....

I know that QT had other accounts, not just Chargestream. How do I know this, because back in April I had a wire transfer done from them and it came from them but not under Chargestream. Now I have read and re-read the indictment, and the other bank account is not on there.

Although I should not have any money in QT, and they think I do, why can't they use this other account to make good on paying their customers. They should be able to work out a deal like the poker sites that were taken over on Black Friday. This also goes for EWX. Why can these poker sites work with the government and these web wallets won't. It amazes me how some organizations are jumping through hoops to get their customers paid, and others are like "Oh, well, take it up with the US government."

One last question, for the people who can not log in, did you get the e-mail from QT that stated they would be back up on July 1st. I didn't get this e-mail, and I am wondering if only the ones who received it are the ones that are able to log in. I can't log in, it says my account is locked.

LH
 
LHofsdal said:
I can't log in either, but I was wondering something.....

I know that QT had other accounts, not just Chargestream. How do I know this, because back in April I had a wire transfer done from them and it came from them but not under Chargestream. Now I have read and re-read the indictment, and the other bank account is not on there.

Although I should not have any money in QT, and they think I do, why can't they use this other account to make good on paying their customers. They should be able to work out a deal like the poker sites that were taken over on Black Friday. This also goes for EWX. Why can these poker sites work with the government and these web wallets won't. It amazes me how some organizations are jumping through hoops to get their customers paid, and others are like "Oh, well, take it up with the US government."

One last question, for the people who can not log in, did you get the e-mail from QT that stated they would be back up on July 1st. I didn't get this e-mail, and I am wondering if only the ones who received it are the ones that are able to log in. I can't log in, it says my account is locked.

LH
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I didn't get it either
 
The last statement I received from QT stated that persons who are able to set up bank accounts outside the US (using Euros) would be paid (and everyone else is pretty much SOL). The other account may be the Eco-Card account which is totally different than the QT account. QT accounts were setup separately from Eco-Card accounts, I believe, specifically because of all this crap.

Personally, I think anyone who had smallish amounts in their QT accounts should walk away, BUT those who have large amounts should figure out a way to get a Euro account to collect your funds, then close out these accounts once the funds have cleared your bank. I wouldn't trust ANY ewallet or even ACH or courier checks. Who's to say future transactions won't fall under scrutiny and the casinos will just say screw you to US players? What happens when one of these courier checks is deposited into your bank account and then the bank says there aren't funds to clear the check? You've just screwed yourself because they'll take that money out of your bank account + fees. Unless it was coming through WU or Money Gram I'd be really cautious about depositing any type of gambling check into my personal account. But that's just my opinion...
 
The QT email has been posted, and it says that the Euro account must NOT use the US system, and must use the EU format of BIC and IBAN, and the account number cannot be in the US format. The account also has to be in the name of the holder.

If the above criteria are met, QT can't necessarily determine whether it is a true offshore Euro account, or one with a US bank.

What is important is that if the customer tries to get a US bank past their checks, and the payment ends up getting seized, QT will NOT be held responsible for making good the lost funds.

It may be better for US customers unable to get Euro accounts to leave their funds where they are, and thus QT remains legally responsible for their continuing safe custody.

If there is a worthwhile balance, it would be worth customers trying to fly over here and apply for an "ordinary" account in person, rather than the offshore accouts that are only available for the wealthy.

It might be possible to get some kind of "basic" account over here in Euros by applying in person. Such accounts would work like pre-paid cards, and would not come with any credit facilities, and are thus safer for the banks to offer to non-locals.

There may even be Euro denominated pre-paid cards that can be funded through an underlying account that has a BIC and IBAN, so that it could receive a funding from QT. The customer would then have to find a way to spend the money on this card, and it may not work anywhere in the US.

What QT are trying to avoid is sending any money through the US banking system, which is why they can't use the dollar. The Euro is their home currency, and is widely available within the Eurozone, and is also important enough to be one of the key currencies used in global trade.

There ARE likely to be other solutions, so to avoid accusations that their chosen method has been chosen deliberately so that most US customers have no practical means to get their money out, they should start considering other options. They could always cover their ass by making the customer sign a disclaimer that passes responsibilty away from QT when the money is sent, rather than when it is received.
 
QT

footdr said:
Do those that can still login from U.S. have funds in their QT account.

I cannot login but I have no funds. Maybe only those with funds or confiscated payments can log in?

I have been trying to contact them regarding my account information, basically to delete old credit card information and current accounts I was using and to print out my account history "report".

Emailed them and Eco Card to no avail.
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Yes I can log in but can do nothing but look at my $2000. I am in the US so doubt I will ever get this money. There should be some way to at least let us put our money in a casino to play and withdraw that way
 
Novemberlady1 said:
Yes I can log in but can do nothing but look at my $2000. I am in the US so doubt I will ever get this money. There should be some way to at least let us put our money in a casino to play and withdraw that way
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You have to use the "contact us" to send a withdrawal request, rather than do it through the website. This is why it is "view only".

I expect no-one is there over the weekend to answer anything sent via "contact us", and they no longer have any staff on "chat".

They had better pull their finger out and demonstrate that they are sincere about this process, as for now it seems like they are putting on a show to appease US customers for the next month and a half.

They certainly don't seem to have put anything in place to deal with what they should have expected, a FLOOD of enquiries and requests starting the minute they put the site back up.
 
No US for Barclays

From the link posted above:

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We're screwed everywhere! :(
 
If it were not for the fact that my mum is 86 yrs young (she lives in Ireland) I would ask her to help me out. But I would never ask her that, not even for ..um...100,000...ok maybe ..10,000...Nope, not even for a penny that I needed to transfer.

Yep, unless there really is a safe and legal way, we are screwed.

The hassles with tax laws and the threat of 'money laundering'...it just is not worth it.

Until QT finds a way of reaching out to US (USA) then I am not going to even attempt it.

I will just accept that I was screwed out of money and will not even attempt to contact the casinos about the chargebacks from the 'cleared' funds from QT. It's not their fault.

It sucks.

Someone PROVE me wrong, here...please! ;)
 
secret2 said:
If it were not for the fact that my mum is 86 yrs young (she lives in Ireland) I would ask her to help me out. But I would never ask her that, not even for ..um...100,000...ok maybe ..10,000...Nope, not even for a penny that I needed to transfer.

Yep, unless there really is a safe and legal way, we are screwed.

The hassles with tax laws and the threat of 'money laundering'...it just is not worth it.

Until QT finds a way of reaching out to US (USA) then I am not going to even attempt it.

I will just accept that I was screwed out of money and will not even attempt to contact the casinos about the chargebacks from the 'cleared' funds from QT. It's not their fault.

It sucks.

Someone PROVE me wrong, here...please! ;)
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Theres no way to prove you wrong. Qt is purposely making it impossible for anyone to get there money. There making believe there is a way to cashout, but there really isn't. Even if you have a euro account (i do) they do not respond, or let you log into your account. I have send more then 20 emails since july 1st, to all there departments, telling them about my account, and as you know no response.

There doing this so that on August 16th they can come and say, we tried to give it back, but you didn't claim it, case closed money lost.

Think the only way were going to get paid is to show up to the owner of QT's house. Remember someone posting his Skype and home address on 2+2 got to go look for it.

There just buying time. I really hope im wrong , but in cases like this i usually wind up being correct. WHat i think is happening is there using this time to distance themselves from ecocard, so that if anyone tries to sue, they cant go after ecocard.
 
lnspin said:
Theres no way to prove you wrong. Qt is purposely making it impossible for anyone to get there money. There making believe there is a way to cashout, but there really isn't. Even if you have a euro account (i do) they do not respond, or let you log into your account. I have send more then 20 emails since july 1st, to all there departments, telling them about my account, and as you know no response.

There doing this so that on August 16th they can come and say, we tried to give it back, but you didn't claim it, case closed money lost.

Think the only way were going to get paid is to show up to the owner of QT's house. Remember someone posting his Skype and home address on 2+2 got to go look for it.

There just buying time. I really hope im wrong , but in cases like this i usually wind up being correct. WHat i think is happening is there using this time to distance themselves from ecocard, so that if anyone tries to sue, they cant go after ecocard.
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I wonder why some people have received responses from QT and others not? I just have a few hundred that has been unresolved...others have thousands.

I think you're correct in the 'buying time'.
 
anniemac said:
I don't have any money in QT but was just digging around and found this. Might possibly be an option:

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
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...or possibly not.

Products and services on this site may not be available in certain jurisdictions. In particular, these products and services are not being offered in Japan or the United States or to US residents. For full details of exclusions and disclaimers please see the Important Information before proceeding. Each Barclays Wealth company reserves the right to make a final determination on whether or not you are eligible for any particular product or service.
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Looks like QT have set US customers an impossible task, and only a very few will ever manage to open a Euro account and get paid.

I can't accept that QT were unaware of these problems when they set up this solution, and August 15th will see the majority of customers having found out that they had been set up for a royal reaming from the outset.

It seems that almost EVERY country can use these services EXCEPT the US and one or two others. It looks like it is the US government that have made sure that EU based banks will generally exclude US residents from opening an offshore Euro account, so it's back to the non-EU "tax haven" states that will offer these services, but only to "wealthy clients".
 
Guess I didn't read far enough because I actually tried to open an account and all it said was that I had to call them instead of opening online. Sorry. :o

That being said, has anyone actually contacted a lawyer regarding a lawsuit about this? I realize that we engaged in an illegal activity, which at the time the funds were put in QT was not illegal in the sense of receiving the money.

Like I said before, don't have any money in QT but I would have if I hadn't asked Lucky Club about problems with QT a week before they were hit or that we knew about it anyway.

I am calling BS on the whole situation they are causing by only saying you can withdraw if you have a Euro account. If they really give a rat's behind about paying customer, they would find a way to pay, be it transfers to other ewallets, prepaid cards or Western Union/Moneygram. Heck a money order would work. I don't think they want to or can pay anyone.

Just my opinion.
 
anniemac said:
Guess I didn't read far enough because I actually tried to open an account and all it said was that I had to call them instead of opening online. Sorry. :o

That being said, has anyone actually contacted a lawyer regarding a lawsuit about this? I realize that we engaged in an illegal activity, which at the time the funds were put in QT was not illegal in the sense of receiving the money.

Like I said before, don't have any money in QT but I would have if I hadn't asked Lucky Club about problems with QT a week before they were hit or that we knew about it anyway.

I am calling BS on the whole situation they are causing by only saying you can withdraw if you have a Euro account. If they really give a rat's behind about paying customer, they would find a way to pay, be it transfers to other ewallets, prepaid cards or Western Union/Moneygram. Heck a money order would work. I don't think they want to or can pay anyone.

Just my opinion.
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Just as concerning is that those customers who HAVE managed to set up Euro accounts, are getting no response from QT when they send them these details in the hope that they can get paid.

If so few customers have managed to get Euro accounts, it seems unlikely that QT are so overwhelmed with withdrawal requests that the queue for a response is 72 hours, and counting.......
 
vinylweatherman said:
Just as concerning is that those customers who HAVE managed to set up Euro accounts, are getting no response from QT when they send them these details in the hope that they can get paid.

If so few customers have managed to get Euro accounts, it seems unlikely that QT are so overwhelmed with withdrawal requests that the queue for a response is 72 hours, and counting.......
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I can confirm this 100%, not only me but know of a few others who have tried.... Don't really think theres anything left to do but write it off.

Hopefully it will be easier to get the unclear funds i had with them from the DOJ. Maybe they wont make it so hard.
 
vinylweatherman said:
Just as concerning is that those customers who HAVE managed to set up Euro accounts, are getting no response from QT when they send them these details in the hope that they can get paid.
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Several people, including me, have received the following email. If/when the withdrawal goes through, I will try to post any information I can to help facilitate others' withdrawals.


We are writing to confirm that your bank details have been accepted and the withdrawal request has been submitted by our operators from your QuickTender account. You may review the details of your withdrawal request under section 'My QuickTender'. The payment converted into EUR will be processed by our operators within the time period July 1st and August 15th. Please expect the funds to be received to your bank account not sooner than 3-5 business days after the status of your withdrawal has been changed to 'confirmed'.
 
bpb said:
Several people, including me, have received the following email. If/when the withdrawal goes through, I will try to post any information I can to help facilitate others' withdrawals.


We are writing to confirm that your bank details have been accepted and the withdrawal request has been submitted by our operators from your QuickTender account. You may review the details of your withdrawal request under section 'My QuickTender'. The payment converted into EUR will be processed by our operators within the time period July 1st and August 15th. Please expect the funds to be received to your bank account not sooner than 3-5 business days after the status of your withdrawal has been changed to 'confirmed'.
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Thank you for the update. And good luck to all who're going this route.... :thumbsup:
 
bpb said:
Several people, including me, have received the following email. If/when the withdrawal goes through, I will try to post any information I can to help facilitate others' withdrawals.


We are writing to confirm that your bank details have been accepted and the withdrawal request has been submitted by our operators from your QuickTender account. You may review the details of your withdrawal request under section 'My QuickTender'. The payment converted into EUR will be processed by our operators within the time period July 1st and August 15th. Please expect the funds to be received to your bank account not sooner than 3-5 business days after the status of your withdrawal has been changed to 'confirmed'.
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Buying time again?

Why can't they process them as they receive them?

It looks like they are just going to collect the requests for now, and "sit on them" for a while.

It suggests they are trying to assess the total liabilty before they start making the payments, which shouldn't be necessary if they actually had all these cleared funds available, and properly separated from company money.

Worrying still is what will happen to money belonging to customers who are simply refused Euro accounts because they are "US resident", an exclusion that seems to apply to every option that has been brought up, other than for "tax haven" Euro accounts that automatically exclude those not wealthy enough to satisfy the "overall relationship" requirements that seem to be around $50,000.

Given all the legal hurdles involved, is 6/7 weeks REALLY a realistic timescale for a US customer to research, apply for, and provide relevant sworn documentation for, one of these Euro accounts that will be open and "active" in time for the QT cutoff date.

We will only know the extent to which customers got screwed over by a near impossible payout procedure at the end of August, by which time QT would have bought itself another 7 weeks of customers believing they will get paid.

I can see only those wealthy enough to set up substantial offshore "relationships" getting everything in place before mid August, and giving QT no means to wriggle out of paying them. This would probably be the poker professionals who have much more money tied up, and who are already pursuing legal action against the poker rooms. QT had better make sure they don't piss off these customers, as I am sure they will start a similar action against QT, or even it's holding company.
 
I'm still wondering if any, (like poker players) who have oodles seized, have had a lawyer file a claim with the DOJ?? I've skimmed over at 2 + 2 but haven't spotted anything....
 
Not weird at all. The pokerstars/tilt/ap seizures were completely unrelated to the beted/bookmaker/linwood seizures, which were unrelated to the quicktender wire seizures. All 3 were done by different govt agencies without any collaboration.

Quicktender got the double whammy by being involved in two of the three.

Plusevpoker.com/blog explains everything very well
 
Can someone please recap for me and let me know if being in the USA I should just wait and what the possibilities are for me to get this money eventually?
 

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