Playing at one of the rogues...

You are all wrong and right...many many rogue listed casinos are there not because they didn't pay ANYONE but because they didn't pay a few people,usually progressive jackpots or large winnings while paying smaller withdrawals with no problems,if you do play in rogue listed casinos make sure you don't cash out too much at a time...try always cashing out under 400$ at a time.
None are so blind as those who will not see.
 
As bloody hard as it is to win these days at any given casino and you're going to play at one that probably isn't even going to pay?

You'd be better off with Minesweeper. "Start, Programs, Games"... You'll find it.

Ha ha.....love it. :thumbsup:

None are so blind as those who will not see.

Another outstanding quote GM....can I use it? I need a new sig, and it's SO appropriate.
 
After reading through this thread several times now, I feel the need to put in my 2 cents, at the risk of being stoned here by the Casinomeister faithful.

I've been gambling online for about 10 years now, and have easily played at over 100 casinos....I have played at what was/is considered the good, the bad, and the ugly.

I have only been screwed over ONCE in all those years.....and I have to say it was one of the accredited/recommended Microgaming casinos listed here. I wont get into too much detail as it was around 5 years ago, but basically what happened was I made a modest deposit, hit 5 wild symbols on Big Top a few hours later which got my balance close to $10,000.....10 minutes after this big hit everything in the casino froze and I could not get back in. Eventually when I was able to log back in, I was locked out. I contacted support and was basically told my account would not be unlocked until I signed off on my credit card purchases. Of course I happily did this as I was looking forward to cashing out. Well my account was never unlocked and I was never paid.....for absolutely no reason. I had deposited here several times before with no problems....but apparently they had a problem with me winning. I was somewhat new to the forum at the time and just a lurker,so never said anything.

On the other hand, I have always been paid(and paid in a timely fashion) by what are/were considered "rogue" casinos. At one of the super rogues a few years ago I was offered a $100 free chip, played thru and cashed out $100 (the max) and was paid in less than 48 hours (quicker, I might add, than 32Red paid me back when they allowed US). I never deposited a dime at this rogue either.

Back when I played with Virtual, the support there was always A+++, they always engaged in small talk with me, and always congratulated me any time I had a nice win. On the other hand, I have never encountered a more rude support staff than the highly touted InetBet...and this was when they even bothered to reply to my emails.

Now I am in no way endorsing playing at any "rogue" casinos, as I personally no longer play at them myself......and I have the utmost respect for all the hard work Bryan has put into this site......BUT it is important to note that we all have different experiences online, and just becasue someone chooses to "venture to the darkside".....well that is their right. Of course they shouldn't expect help if they run into issues.

Maybe I was one of the unlucky few who got screwed out of 8k by one of the super groups.....who knows? im sure there are many out there with stories to tell who just dont want to step forward.

But hey, this is gambling, right?
 
After reading through this thread several times now, I feel the need to put in my 2 cents, at the risk of being stoned here by the Casinomeister faithful.

Just replace the mob with the Casinomeister faithful and "Jehovah" with rogue.

 
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Funeral1979,

I will be the first one to stone you, not because of your praises for Virtual (everyone is entitled to his own opinion) but rather the fact that you have been a CM member for quite some time and you never bothered to PAB against the accredited MG casino. Surely if they are doing what you stated, you should have MaxD hounding them.

If you have the info at hand I believe you should still PAB. Just look at WB's case against Heroes. Though WB wasnt paid by the casino, he still got paid. Though some time has elapsed you should still pursue.
 
After reading through this thread several times now, I feel the need to put in my 2 cents, at the risk of being stoned here by the Casinomeister faithful.

Just replace the mob with the Casinomeister faithful and "Jehovah" with rogue.

LMAO Rusty....what a class movie that was. :laugh:

Funeral1979,

I will be the first one to stone you, not because of your praises for Virtual (everyone is entitled to his own opinion) but rather the fact that you have been a CM member for quite some time and you never bothered to PAB against the accredited MG casino. Surely if they are doing what you stated, you should have MaxD hounding them.

If you have the info at hand I believe you should still PAB. Just look at WB's case against Heroes. Though WB wasnt paid by the casino, he still got paid. Though some time has elapsed you should still pursue.

Disagreed Chu on the Virtual part, but I feel like I'm beating a dead horse, so why bother?

But I 110% agree on the PAB part...I cannot believe that Funeral just let 8.5K go, without at least trying to do something about it. I, for one, would sure like to see him pursue it. And I'd also like more details ie. what casino, their reasons, etc.
 
After reading through this thread several times now, I feel the need to put in my 2 cents, at the risk of being stoned here by the Casinomeister faithful.

I've been gambling online for about 10 years now, and have easily played at over 100 casinos....I have played at what was/is considered the good, the bad, and the ugly.

I have only been screwed over ONCE in all those years.....and I have to say it was one of the accredited/recommended Microgaming casinos listed here. I wont get into too much detail as it was around 5 years ago, but basically what happened was I made a modest deposit, hit 5 wild symbols on Big Top a few hours later which got my balance close to $10,000.....10 minutes after this big hit everything in the casino froze and I could not get back in. Eventually when I was able to log back in, I was locked out. I contacted support and was basically told my account would not be unlocked until I signed off on my credit card purchases. Of course I happily did this as I was looking forward to cashing out. Well my account was never unlocked and I was never paid.....for absolutely no reason. I had deposited here several times before with no problems....but apparently they had a problem with me winning. I was somewhat new to the forum at the time and just a lurker,so never said anything.

On the other hand, I have always been paid(and paid in a timely fashion) by what are/were considered "rogue" casinos. At one of the super rogues a few years ago I was offered a $100 free chip, played thru and cashed out $100 (the max) and was paid in less than 48 hours (quicker, I might add, than 32Red paid me back when they allowed US). I never deposited a dime at this rogue either.

Back when I played with Virtual, the support there was always A+++, they always engaged in small talk with me, and always congratulated me any time I had a nice win. On the other hand, I have never encountered a more rude support staff than the highly touted InetBet...and this was when they even bothered to reply to my emails.

Now I am in no way endorsing playing at any "rogue" casinos, as I personally no longer play at them myself......and I have the utmost respect for all the hard work Bryan has put into this site......BUT it is important to note that we all have different experiences online, and just becasue someone chooses to "venture to the darkside".....well that is their right. Of course they shouldn't expect help if they run into issues.

Maybe I was one of the unlucky few who got screwed out of 8k by one of the super groups.....who knows? im sure there are many out there with stories to tell who just dont want to step forward.

But hey, this is gambling, right?
I find it strange you just let 8k go without making any effort to recover it.

As for Virtual, I recommend that you read the posts by phynqster, who was a manager at Virtual. They will open your eyes about how Virtual works.
 
Believe me I have read all the posts by phynqster, I played there when he was the manager.

As for letting 8k go, this was many years ago and I had never posted here before....just a lurker....and didn't figure it would be appropriate for my first post to bash a beloved casino on here. I figured most would not believe me anyhow so just moved on.
 
Dosn't that defeat the purpose

I'm from the US. I to lurked here at this website for awhile. I'm not bashing you at all, for who am I to judge. But for you not to PAB defeats the purpose of this website. The reason I chose casinomeister is they actually try to stop these casinos from ripping people off. You can read a thousand casino reviews online. Most are getting paid from the links, but would any of them help you if you had a problem. I say no. This website gives us the player feedback as well as the casino managers. Great casinos can turn bad the list of rouges can prove that. If we all stopped writing because we didnt want to bash a good casino there would be no good casinos. These guys work hard for us. We are there eyes and ears. They deserve more credit than what you gave them. Please don't take this personal I'm not bashing. I too was nervous about making my first post. But I did. :thumbsup:
 
Most are getting paid from the links, but would any of them help you if you had a problem. I say no.

This isn't true....:)

It should be "all are getting paid from the links, and most will help you if you had a problem..."

Only the blackest of black hat affiliates will refuse to help a player that signed up with a casino through one of their links...I can assure you that most, if not all, of the affiliates that are members here at CM would bend over backwards to help one of their players!
 
Thats my point HERE! But if googled rushmore clicked on one of the links or websites to go to rushmore, signed up that person just got paid. Does that person have communication with me after I signed up at rushmore no rushmore has communication with me. But here at this website i can talk to Louise or anyone else I may have a prob. with .

Just using rushmore as example since i play there.
 
Thats my point HERE! But if googled rushmore clicked on one of the links or websites to go to rushmore, signed up that person just got paid. Does that person have communication with me after I signed up at rushmore no rushmore has communication with me. But here at this website i can talk to Louise or anyone else I may have a prob. with .

Just using rushmore as example since i play there.

Of course you can have communication with the affiliate....just simply email them and let them know that you signed up for XYZ casino through their website, let them know your account number, explain the situation you're having with the casino and I bet you'd be surprised at how they will try to help you in any way they can. Of course I can only speak for the reputable affiliates...
 
I played at a few rogue casinos before I knew what a rogue casino was. I hit a $4000 jackpot at one once and was paid in two installments. Of course I didnt receive the first payment until I hounded them on a daily basis every way I knew how for about 6 weeks. The second didn't come till quite a while after that. I think I quoted their payment policy to them so many times I learned it by heart. They were politely being jerks about the whole thing but I can be a bit of a jerk sometimes too. And when someone owes me money I can be endlessly stubborn as well. Getting my money from them had become sort of a hobby.

Do yourself a favor and just use the casinos in the accredited list. At least if theres a problem you wont be sitting alone in the dark. At the very least you wont be the only one looking for an answer. If you have a problem with a rogue casino all youre going to get is I told you so. (If you're lucky.)

I also play in a few rogued casinos regularly because they have good bonus offers and always pay me. And in all of them I'm ahead, so they don't only pay be because for being a losing player.

I think the Casinomeister Rouge List is a good orientation but it is not perfect. There are IMHO dangerous casinos missing and there are casinos on this list I wouldn't call roguish.

Same thing with the Accredited Casino List, most of these casinos are really good but with a few of them I already had some smaller problems.

I have not ever had the misfortune of dealing with the screwed up crap that I was afraid would happen to me if I played at an on-line casino. The reason I haven't had to deal with any of the horrific, pathetic and slime snot casinos was that before I ever played on-line, I searched out terms relating to: how to see a bad casino, watchdog, on-line gambling rip-offs, etc. Guess what came up either first or second on the search? Casinomeister. I quickly saw that there was a term that I needed to know and that was "rogue" in the world of on-line gaming. It is really a pity that so many folks haven't, won't, or are too lazy to do their research prior to giving up sensitive info and hard earned cash. What about dealing with the massive disappointments when you realize you have been denied your winnings, lost your identity, or lost your deposits and your account is suddenly closed.

Many people shop around when it comes to buying stocks, bonds, mutual funds. Would you let a rip-off manage your money? How about if you had just heard a rumor that a company was going to go bankrupt and the stocks might be worth zero. Would you just go ahead and ignore that rumor and dump in say $10000 into that company? What if they didnt file bankruptcy but after you deposited, they locked their door and went to Malta and spent your money. Do you think you would have any recourse? Maybe if they came back from Malta. But why would the company leave Malta when they could just take folks money through on-line gaming remotely. I know I am a little off point but, I just don't get it.

That said, kudos to 4 of a kind and everyone else who has managed to gain the knowledge that will eventually (hopefully) put the rip-offs, cheats and scoundrels on an island with no internet connection nor planes or boats to get them off of it. But sadly, even though the knowledge is available and free, it surprises me that people will continue to support the rogue voluntarily. I just don't get it. Remember - If it looks like crap, smells like crap and someone indicates that it is crap..... then, I don't need to taste it to find out that "rogue casino" equals CRAP!!!!.

However, I am not speaking from experience because I have never played at a crap (rogue) casino before, where it is possible to experience a loss because you had won. I thank Casinomeister and the Accredited Casinos for making all of my on-line gaming a very pleasant experience in that when I win, I can cash out that win and when I lose, well I just lose.
 
It's people like you that keep these assholes in business. And what's worse is that some poor newbie will come here and read this thread, and say "hey, see it's okay to play there....this person always gets paid".

When you get screwed over, and you will....you deserve it.

BTW, it's roGUe, not rouge....and you don't lOOse your money, you lose it.

Hey give the person a break. he is stating an opinion. And no not everyone reads the CM forums. I didnt until around 9 months ago. And im sure if a new person read this thread in total they would be able to work it all out for themselves. I agree roGue is rouge but not every gambler knows or even cares about rogue or none rogue. Lets all take the disco biscuts and calm it rite down ( or is that right) .... :D
 
Posted by JackOfAllSuit's "Total deposits at coolcatcasino.com 950$ total cash outs zero.
The reason is these rogues take 12 days to process your withdrawal and I never could wait that long."



You are all wrong and right...many many rogue listed casinos are there not because they didn't pay ANYONE but because they didn't pay a few people,usually progressive jackpots or large winnings while paying smaller withdrawals with no problems,if you do play in rogue listed casinos make sure you don't cash out too much at a time...try always cashing out under 400$ at a time.

I'm a little confused....your earlier post in this thread see above and then the post today. (1st), so does this mean that you've saw the light?
 
Lets all take the disco biscuts and calm it rite down ( or is that right) .... :D

I know I'm gonna regret this....but wtf is a disco biscuit? Anything like a happy pill? :laugh:

When it comes to Virtual....the gloves are off. For the casino, the affiliate company, the affiliates who promote them and the players who play there (the ones who know better I mean). I do cut slack to the people who got sucked into the vortex of deceit, without having any prior knowledge of what they were getting into. :D
 
For those of you that do chose to play at these groups I advise you only deposit small amounts and not expect to receive a fast cash out,try 10 days.
Don't withdraw huge amounts and you might slip under their deadly roguish radar.It can provide a sense of adventure I suppose,try to rob the rogues blind operation.
 
For those of you that do chose to play at these groups I advise you only deposit small amounts and not expect to receive a fast cash out,try 10 days.
Don't withdraw huge amounts and you might slip under their deadly roguish radar.It can provide a sense of adventure I suppose,try to rob the rogues blind operation.

Is he serious??? Please do NOT take this advise whomever is reading this thread. Banned or not Do NOT take this advise. Maybe a MOD can delete this post.
 
10 days for a cashout from one of the rogue casinos? Try more like 20-30 days to start processing, if you're lucky. You have to constantly badger them to keep them "working" on processing and then another 20-30 days before they MIGHT consider paying you. Is it worth it? Especially, when there are a lot of casinos who are willing to release your winnings in a day or two? Hmmmm....2 months of frustration or 2 days so you can play again...tough question! (NOT!)


Maybe a disco biscuit is a cousin to the 1960's brownie family???
 
It seems that the "platinum vip" players at the casino where the OP is playing are actually at the top of a Ponzi scheme pyramid who receive their cut after enough funds have been ripped off of newbie players.
 

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