Player alleges he spent £43k at Ladbrokes, no checks. Then sabotaged thread.

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That’s not what I am saying it doesn’t matter whether I deposited £43,000, £10,000 or £100,000 what my issue is why didn’t Ladbrokes put a freeze on my account after my first deposit £3000 that would be the correct thing to do not to let me deposit three more times for £40,000

How about you take responsibility for your own actions? I take it you were prepared to lose the £43k? Would you have returned any profit that you made?
 

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They have systems in place to stop deposits after a certain amount surely from a new customer? So you’re telling me I could have deposited £100,000 in one hour?

I don't know. Clearly they don't have them or they're way too high.

I agree with you that they should have a system that allows a NEW player to deposit no more than say 2000 bucks the same day they register. Or whatever number seems appropriate.

However, they're not your mommy or daddy. It's your money, your bank account, your decision. I doubt they forced you to deposit 43k in under an hour. It sucks, but the best thing is to just move on.
 

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Your solicitor is going to tell you if you liked the answers on your other thread? :confused:
It’s ok Colin I have discussed it with my solicitor and I will be enforcing action against them. Even if I don’t get anything back it will be raised with the UKGC and Ladbrokes will more than likely get a fine for there irresponsible behaviour.
why do you think that most casinos have a deposit threshold before source of wealth verification???
 
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How about you take responsibility for your own actions? I take it you were prepared to lose the £43k? Would you have returned any profit that you made?

It's so last season, todays it's cool to do something stupid expensive fckups and blame somebody else being responsible because they allowed. These claims that casinos shouldn't let me lose for reason XYZ are very common these days.

Happily we are not in reach of US civil courts who keep giving "Darwin Award" people huge compensations for being stupid/irresponsible, there's quite good reason why UKGC want to avoid much as they can to handle any player complaints, it these are free to do and there is nothing to lose, naturally there always are some people who think it would be only fair thing to happen to get full refund from losses.

Think many on this forum have time to time lost more than planned but majority just accept it as own stupidity and go on. Unfortunate for others is that when these keep happening enough, UKGC (or whoever regulator who start to see these as big issue) start throw these cool regulations for max bets, max deposits and all other childish limits just because very small part of players don't wanna hold any responsibility about their actions, many thought that it's enough to make sure that only adults can gamble but there always are few who wanna prove it wrong and want somebody else take care of their self-control and pay damages.
 

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It’s ok Colin I have discussed it with my solicitor and I will be enforcing action against them. Even if I don’t get anything back it will be raised with the UKGC and Ladbrokes will more than likely get a fine for there irresponsible behaviour.
why do you think that most casinos have a deposit threshold before source of wealth verification???

What about your irresponsible behaviour losing £43k within 30 minutes. Why not look in the mirror?
 

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It’s ok Colin I have discussed it with my solicitor and I will be enforcing action against them. Even if I don’t get anything back it will be raised with the UKGC and Ladbrokes will more than likely get a fine for there irresponsible behaviour.
why do you think that most casinos have a deposit threshold before source of wealth verification???
and still you haven't answered my question, you said you think they breached their LCCP, if you believe that, why can you not quote the exact part you are talking about? I'm not trying to 'catch you out' just interested to know.
 

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It's so last season, todays it's cool to do something stupid expensive fckups and blame somebody else being responsible because they allowed. These claims that casinos shouldn't let me lose for reason XYZ are very common these days.

I actually think this is genius. If you win you get to keep all the money and if you lose you can cry about it and get all your deposits back. As a player you can't lose. Somehow I suspect that casinos won't like it however. :D
 

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It's so last season, todays it's cool to do something stupid expensive fckups and blame somebody else being responsible because they allowed. These claims that casinos shouldn't let me lose for reason XYZ are very common these days.

Happily we are not in reach of US civil courts who keep giving "Darwin Award" people huge compensations for being stupid/irresponsible, there's quite good reason why UKGC want to avoid much as they can to handle any player complaints, it these are free to do and there is nothing to lose, naturally there always are some people who think it would be only fair thing to happen to get full refund from losses.

Think many on this forum have time to time lost more than planned but majority just accept it as own stupidity and go on. Unfortunate for others is that when these keep happening enough, UKGC (or whoever regulator who start to see these as big issue) start throw these cool regulations for max bets, max deposits and all other childish limits just because very small part of players don't wanna hold any responsibility about their actions, many thought that it's enough to make sure that only adults can gamble but there always are few who wanna prove it wrong and want somebody else take care of their self-control and pay damages.
Casinos and the betting industry have to take responsibility they are making massive amount of profit every year. If I join a casino and deposit £100 that’s fine and I wouldn’t expect a source of funds check but when you deposit £43,000 under a hours which is probably twice the average salary in the U.K. then obviously they should do some kind off check before these deposits.
It’s just common sense.

so as we speak Ladbrokes don’t no anything about me my wages, salary, investments, shares etc and it’s there job to get this information before i make large deposits so they are happy whereabouts my money has come from.
If I bought a house l, shares etc they would check this information so it’s the same and is required legally
 
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and still you haven't answered my question, you said you think they breached their LCCP, if you believe that, why can you not quote the exact part you are talking about? I'm not trying to 'catch you out' just interested to know.
My solicitor will deal with that mate as they specialise in online gambling so it’s not for me to say mate I just let the professional people do this
 
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Casino irresponsible? Maybe!
casino over zealous? Theirs another thread about that!
if you had of won and withdrew 100.000 would you be complaining? I highly doubt it!you chose to deposit the second a larger amount? Seek gambling related addiction help not waste your life in gambling forums
 

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I actually think this is genius. If you win you get to keep all the money and if you lose you can cry about it and get all your deposits back. As a player you can't lose. Somehow I suspect that casinos won't like it however. :D
So you think it’s normal for a new account to be allowed to deposit £43,000 is that responsible from Ladbrokes? I am talking about Ladbrokes duty off care mate
 
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Casinos and the betting industry have to take responsibility they are making massive amount of profit every year. If I join a casino and deposit £100 that’s fine and I wouldn’t expect a source of funds check but when you deposit £43,000 under a hours which is probably twice the average salary in the U.K. then obviously they should do some kind off check before these deposits.
It’s just common sense.

so as we speak Ladbrokes don’t no anything about me my wages, salary, investments, shares etc and it’s there job to get this information before i make large deposits so they are happy whereabouts my money has come from.
If I bought a house l, shares etc they would check this information so it’s the same and is required legally

No, just fucking no. It's actually not their job to stop you from doing stupid things. It's actually your job to make sure you don't blow 43k in an hour at a casino if you can't handle the consequences. See, actions have consequences.

Seems like money and brains don't go hand in hand. How the hell did you even get 43k to blow on roulette?
 

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No, just fucking no. It's actually not their job to stop you from doing stupid things. It's actually your job to make sure you don't blow 43k in an hour at a casino if you can't handle the consequences. See, actions have consequences.

Seems like money and brains don't go hand in hand. How the hell did you even get 43k to blow on roulette?
Probably won it from a casino within the ladbrokes group :laugh:
 

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Casino irresponsible? Maybe!
casino over zealous? Theirs another thread about that!
if you had of won and withdrew 100.000 would you be complaining? I highly doubt it!you chose to deposit the second a larger amount? Seek gambling related addiction help not waste your life in gambling forum
Casino irresponsible? Maybe!
casino over zealous? Theirs another thread about that!
if you had of won and withdrew 100.000 would you be complaining? I highly doubt it!you chose to deposit the second a larger amount? Seek gambling related addiction help not waste your life in gambling forums
I do like this mate.

so if I win £100,000 and attempted to withdraw this money but then Ladbrokes would obviously do the required source off funds check definitely.
 
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Just talk to your solicitor and come back in a year or two and tell us if you got your money back.
 

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Just talk to your solicitor and come back in a year or two and tell us if you got your money back.
Good idea mate I will see you if a few years with my 1.7 million!!!

To be serious for me it’s not about the money I really don’t care about that but I do want to see what happens as if I was a person who only had £43,000 life savings in my account then lost that under one hour I would definitely say it’s very irresponsible by Ladbrokes to be allowed to do this.
I will let you know the outcome
 
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I do like this mate.

so if I win £100,000 and attempted to withdraw this money but then Ladbrokes would obviously do the required source off funds check definitely. So what happens if that money come from illegal sources/ money laundering for example and they let me deposit £43k without source of funds what would happen? I know exactly what would happen they would be fined by the Ukgc.
So that’s why these casino have threshold limits in place to prevent this which didn’t happen in my case
Would they not pass your information and the particulars to relevant authorities? I’m sure they would
 
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