vinylweatherman
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- Joined
- Oct 14, 2004
- Location
- United Kingdom
Isn't it possible, that this max cashout rule for further deposits (even w/o bonus) is in playce because of the (strange) possiblility to "zero out" each and every bonus at every time you like with a second deposit.
Remember, if you do zero out with a new deposit, even your wagering requirements are done !!!
So, easy:
- dep: 20$, get 2000% = 420$
- make a BIG gamble to double up to 840 (all games are allowed, just do not count !!!!!)
- then "zero out" bonus + wagering req. with a new deposit of 20 w/o bonus (or with a bonus with smaller WR,eg 100%) -> 840 - 400 (sticky) = 440$.
- => +EV (440 * 0,47 ~ 210$)
So, with that max cashout rule, it all becomes a little harder, but still too easy.
And even w/o such "tricks" (that are mentioned in the T+Cs as allowed!!), a 500% Video Poker Bonus on EVERY deposit for example, sticky or not, 30% WR or not, max cashout or not, is too easy to exploit with huge bettings alone (just use a sticky-bonus calculator...). Can't be ok. Reminds me of the "Queen of Rogue City".
(Their "Aces and Faces" payout 99,2%, ALLOWED for 500% !!! ??????????)
I doubt their software is that bad!
The argument made by their rep was not this, it was that even LOSING everything, bonus AND deposit, and depositing onto a ZERO balance, and with your own cash only, STILL tied you to the max cashout. This is a completely bogus argument (for random games), as the starting balance is only that of the original cash deposit, and there should be no "stored value" in any of the RANDOM games to empty out with the cash deposit alone.
The rep then argued on the basis of liability, not wanting to have to pay out too much cash to any player who had an exceptional run of luck. The clear intention seems to be that EVERY player uses bonuses, and that NO PLAYER exposes the casino to "unlimited liabilty" by playing with their own funds alone. This is easily done by saying that even ONE bonus taken is enough to render the account PERMANENTLY limited by a max cashout rule, and could easily be manipulated by craftily adding a bonus to a player's account, and them playing it & getting permanently capped.