pamper spams

[vinylweatherman]

Isn't it possible, that this max cashout rule for further deposits (even w/o bonus) is in playce because of the (strange) possiblility to "zero out" each and every bonus at every time you like with a second deposit.
Remember, if you do zero out with a new deposit, even your wagering requirements are done !!!

So, easy:

- dep: 20$, get 2000% = 420$

- make a BIG gamble to double up to 840 (all games are allowed, just do not count !!!!!)

- then "zero out" bonus + wagering req. with a new deposit of 20 w/o bonus (or with a bonus with smaller WR,eg 100%) -> 840 - 400 (sticky) = 440$.


- => +EV (440 * 0,47 ~ 210$)

So, with that max cashout rule, it all becomes a little harder, but still too easy.

And even w/o such "tricks" (that are mentioned in the T+Cs as allowed!!), a 500% Video Poker Bonus on EVERY deposit for example, sticky or not, 30% WR or not, max cashout or not, is too easy to exploit with huge bettings alone (just use a sticky-bonus calculator...). Can't be ok. Reminds me of the "Queen of Rogue City".

(Their "Aces and Faces" payout 99,2%, ALLOWED for 500% !!! ??????????)

I doubt their software is that bad!

The argument made by their rep was not this, it was that even LOSING everything, bonus AND deposit, and depositing onto a ZERO balance, and with your own cash only, STILL tied you to the max cashout. This is a completely bogus argument (for random games), as the starting balance is only that of the original cash deposit, and there should be no "stored value" in any of the RANDOM games to empty out with the cash deposit alone.

The rep then argued on the basis of liability, not wanting to have to pay out too much cash to any player who had an exceptional run of luck. The clear intention seems to be that EVERY player uses bonuses, and that NO PLAYER exposes the casino to "unlimited liabilty" by playing with their own funds alone. This is easily done by saying that even ONE bonus taken is enough to render the account PERMANENTLY limited by a max cashout rule, and could easily be manipulated by craftily adding a bonus to a player's account, and them playing it & getting permanently capped.

 

[LOOKAWAY]

When they came up with the name pampers it was not a great play for the word pampered i must agree even know the two means the same thing i just think off nappies.

The only problem is how can you be pampered with a life time sentence off 1x max cashout!

Thats alot off work for that kind off payout and will not leave anyone feeling to special, unless your only playing to play which means you are not a gambler or a player!

 

[Alexishot69]

more nappy rash.

Alexishot69,

Please remember that you checked the box on our signup page agreeing to

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This agreement states in relevant part :

1.2.1.8. Allow us to email you promotions from time to time to the email address you use to register. You will be given the option to unsubscribe within each email;

Promotional emails never go out more than twice a week and it is usually restricted to once a week.

If you do not wish to receive future emails from us simply click the "manage your subscription" button within the promotional email you got and unsubscribe from the list. You will be added to our Global Suppression list and will never hear from us again unless their is activity in your casino account in which case you will receive account related emails only. We are obligated to send those due to contractual agreements with our credit card processors and other processing providers and you cannot unsubscribe from those.

Regarding the other messages in this thread, I have a suggestion on how to play without any wagering requirements and without any maximum cashout! Don't take any bonuses

I have done this 2x already and still recieve these emails with todays one upto 2100% ..

 

[Rhyzz]

Your username at Pamper Casino is : xxxxxxx
Your password at Pamper Casino is : xxxxxxx

Gotta love these places who send out emails with passwords on...

 

[Alexishot69]

i wonder

i wonder in all reality if anyone actually plays at the pampercasino...i mean no matter what side you look at it theres ROGUE stamped allover it ..

 

[Alexishot69]

And still they spam

Dear xxxx xxxxxxx
2150% bonus is available unlimited times on all deposits you make! Visa/Mastercard deposits directy from the site are now available too!!

http://www.pampercasino.com

Your username at Pamper Casino is : PAMxxxxx
Your password at Pamper Casino is : xxxxx
2150% bonus on all deposits of $ 20 - 200

Coupon code : 2150WEEK

Redeemable UNLIMITED times until July 30, 2008!
To login :

http://www.pampercasino.com

Deposit methods available :

1> Visa, Mastercard or Maestro - Non-US players only
2> American Express or JCB credit card - Global players including US!
3> EWalletXpress E-Wallet for checks or 900 telephone charges - US & Canada players only
4> Western Union or Moneygram - Global players including US!
5> Neteller E-Wallet - Non-US & Canada players only
6> Click2Pay E-Wallet- Non-US players only
7> Moneybookers E-Wallet - Non-US players only

Coupon code 2150WEEK is available to you and any friends you may refer by using the "Forward to a Friend" link at the bottom of this email.

You will receive 333% bonus on your friend's deposit!

Full details of refer a friend bonus and even more bonuses at :

http://www.pampercasino.com/bonuses

Don't forget to read our terms and conditions before redeeming any bonus including 2150WEEK :

http://www.pampercasino.com/terms_conditions/index_login.html

Enjoy!


Yeah right enjoy what getting robbed perhaps...i done what the rep told me and unsubscribed but still they come and now upto 2150% bonus...lol...why dont they just say deposit and well let you play for a bit before robbing your loot...lol

 

[Alexishot69]

best recommendations?????

And yep the spam continues but sadly the bonus has gone down to 2000% but hey at least its safe after al;l they claim now to be voted BEST RECOMMENDATIONS NUMBER 1 NO DOWNLOAD CASINO...surely to god this PROVES the rogueness in this cowboy outfit huh...and yes they DID removemy email but now im getting these to rejoin ffs whats going on nappied ones...

Dear xxxx xxxxx,

Pamper Casino is 2008's #1 no-download casino according to Best Recommendations magazine!

And now, Pamper has direct Visa and Mastercard deposits available via the cashier!

To signup go to :

Link Removed (invalid)

$ 100 free chip is being offered to all who signup to celebrate!

Coupon Code : 100FREE

To signup go to : bl bla i wont post the rest of it much the same as above except the 2150 bonus is now 150% less...lol

 

[vinylweatherman]

And yep the spam continues but sadly the bonus has gone down to 2000% but hey at least its safe after al;l they claim now to be voted BEST RECOMMENDATIONS NUMBER 1 NO DOWNLOAD CASINO...surely to god this PROVES the rogueness in this cowboy outfit huh...and yes they DID removemy email but now im getting these to rejoin ffs whats going on nappied ones...

Dear xxxx xxxxx,

Pamper Casino is 2008's #1 no-download casino according to Best Recommendations magazine!

And now, Pamper has direct Visa and Mastercard deposits available via the cashier!

To signup go to :

Link Removed (invalid)

$ 100 free chip is being offered to all who signup to celebrate!

Coupon Code : 100FREE

To signup go to : bl bla i wont post the rest of it much the same as above except the 2150 bonus is now 150% less...lol

So they are now into magazine publishing as well


Besides, they are wrong, the new magazine "Serb Hackers Monthly" has voted, and by a mile, that the best no-download casino for them has been "Ministering Angel"

 

[Alexishot69]

FAO PAMPERCASINO

Maybe you could let us all know where and by whom you were VOTED BEST RECOMMENDATIONS NO1 NO DOWNLOAD casino huh? not sure theyll be able to answer that but i have no doubts there names full of it....and vinyl lol@ your above post i went n to read all that thread so by my reckoning you owe me 30 mins at least of air...lol

 

[Casinomeister]

Admin Note

Please don't post URLs from spam mails - you're giving these guys even more exposure by doing so. When posting, there is a Miscellaneous Option "Automatically make website links clickable"

De-select that and you're good to go.

 

[Casinomeister]

Did a quick google search on aff code af=maarten2&bn=44

Looks like this affiliate has been sprinkling his spam in cyberland. I would expect that this aff has had his affiliate account shut down. Right?

 

[Alexishot69]

HEADERS

X-Apparently-To: XXXX@XXXXXX.COM via 217.146.188.140; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:38:31 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [216.27.93.118]
Return-Path: <bounces+255752.19117408.239564@icpbounce.com>
Authentication-Results: mta838.mail.ukl.yahoo.com from=pampercasino.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 216.27.93.118 (EHLO smtp8.icpbounce.com) (216.27.93.118) by mta838.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:38:28 +0000
Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8.icpbounce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071A95CFBE for <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.com>; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:32:14 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:32:14 -0400
To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.com
From: "Pamper Casino 2000% bonus" <2000bonus@pampercasino<dot>.com> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book
Subject: xxxxx xxxxx, $ 100 free chip + 2000% bonus
Message-ID: <6d63ba25796f6939d0aabc9637757520@localhost.localdomain>
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.72]
Errors-To: bounces+255752.19117408.239564@icpbounce.com
List-Unsubscribe: <http://app.icontact.com/icp/listunsubscribe.php?r=19117408&l=30867&s=H5L5&m=239564&c=255752>
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X-Unsubscribe-Web: <http://app.icontact.com/icp/listunsubscribe.php?r=19117408&l=30867&s=H5L5&m=239564&c=255752>
X-ICPINFO:
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Content-Length: 12053

Theres the full headers from the email i aint by any means an expert but does make it looklike it came from pampercasino...

 

[pampercasino]

OK Alexi. I have been extremely fair before posting this.

I have :

1> Publically posted on this forum
2> Emailed you via this forum
3> Private messaged you via this forum.

Asking you for your email address to have you permanently unsubscribed from all communication from us. You refuse to answer me.

I can only assume you do not wish to be removed from the list you subscribed to by signing up to our site and agreeing to our terms.

Even though this last email was not from us but from an affiliate. But most of the emails you have posted have been from us. We are prepared to pass your email onto the affiliate as well so he removes you from his lists as well.

But no one can do anything if you are enjoying posting these emails here and do not wish to be removed.

 

[Alexishot69]

FAO PAMPERCASINO

i have sent you a reply and also succesfully unsubscribed from your emailing list ..this was a NEW email to sign up to pampercasino VOTED BEST RECOMMENDATIONS no1 no download casino..so if and i have unsubscribed why then start sending me spam to resubscribe??? and maybe while your at it tell us where you were voted the no1 casino for a no-download casino huh?

 

[vinylweatherman]

OK Alexi. I have been extremely fair before posting this.

I have :

1> Publically posted on this forum
2> Emailed you via this forum
3> Private messaged you via this forum.

Asking you for your email address to have you permanently unsubscribed from all communication from us. You refuse to answer me.

I can only assume you do not wish to be removed from the list you subscribed to by signing up to our site and agreeing to our terms.

Even though this last email was not from us but from an affiliate. But most of the emails you have posted have been from us. We are prepared to pass your email onto the affiliate as well so he removes you from his lists as well.

But no one can do anything if you are enjoying posting these emails here and do not wish to be removed.

Alexi has already used the unsubscribe process, so it should not be necessary to send her Email to you personally.

It is hardly surprising that she doesn't want to, how does she know you wont just sell it off for profit, as well as unsubscribing her.

Once someone unsubscribes from something, it becomes spam by definition if the unsubscribe process itself is "fake" eg. does nothing to stop the unwanted "newsletters".

As for your affiliates, surely if you have enough control over them to take Alexi of their lists, you should be exerting some of that control to forbid spamming in the first place.

I have received ONE spam for this Diaper of a casino - yet I NEVER signed up at your site, and did not subscribe to anything. Your affiliate is buying spam-lists or otherwise obtaining said lists, perhaps through spammers networks.

The Pizzaria - I can't check, but the argument that this is a "business complex" just doesn't sound right. The address is of a single letterbox, which resolves as the Pizzaria, and it would be the Pizzaria that would receive letters addressed to the address on the website.
If it were a complex, the address would be of a more "complex" form, such as :-
Complex House
30 -32 Apex Hill,
Herlburn
London
<postcode>

What is far more likely is that this Pizzaria has a sideline going where an upstairs office acts for many companies in providing a "maildrop" service, where letters are received at the address of the Pizzaria, and then forwarded to the true adressess of the businesses. As well as the post office "PO Box" service, there are many companies who use their offices in this way to make a little extra, and indeed some whose entire business is receiving mail at their address, and sending it on.
There may be no actual Pamper casino staff there at all, just mail forwarders.
A bit more research, and a site visit, might throw more light on the functions of this address.

 

[Alexishot69]

Mr Vinyl

sorry to be a pain but im gonna have to give you a row..im a SHE not a he...lol

 

[vinylweatherman]

sorry to be a pain but im gonna have to give you a row..im a SHE not a he...lol

Fair enough

Fight, Fight, Fight........


August

32Red Slotmeister Tournament

Be there

(Hope Pat doesn't chuck the pair of us out for brawling)

 

[catrina m]

I had a look around pamper, then PM'd the rep who said they accept US.

Signed up and got a $100 free chip. Didn't get to experience much of the casino as the slot I picked took the free chip in about 10 minutes.

Just bad luck I guess.

 

[Alexishot69]

catrina

did exactly the same to me except wow 10 mins your luck was right in...lol

oh and vinyl in the traditional scottish way "YOUR CLAIMED"...lol

 

[pampercasino]

OK addressing the posts since my last post in this thread.

1> I'm afraid I don't believe Alexi has unsubscribed from the list. She was claiming as of last weekend (last time the newsletter went out) that we (not the affiliate) emailed her the weekly newsletter after she had unsubscribed. That is simply not possible unless she did not unsubscribe correctly. We have less than zero interest in mailing to a player who is unsubscribing from the promotions. It makes us no money and causes unnecessary headaches like this thread.

NO ONE else anywhere on the internet is claiming they have unsubscribed from our weekly newsletter and continue to get our emails since that simply does not happen. So either Alexi does not know how to do it or does not want to do it.

Either way, Alexi, please provide me your email to have you removed from the list. If you refuse to provide it and continue to post our weekly newsletters here and keep claiming they are spam I can only assume you are not interested in unsubscribing and want to continue this and I will stop responding to your claims.

We share our unsubscribe list with all affiliates who do permission based email marketing as we do not want people who don't wanna hear from us to hear from our affiliates either. So if Alexi unsubscribed from our list she would not hear from this affiliate either. I am looking forward to her getting our weekly newsletter this weekend and claiming that it is spam again.

2> Regarding Vinyl's claims, who is not a customer and who I unfortunately again have to address due to his very vivid imagination (vis-a-vis the "office pizzeria" stuff this time) 30 Borough High Street is indeed a business complex in London. You can have a look at all the offices there at :

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

We have never claimed the casino operates out of the London office. I made that pretty clear to Bryan before he posted his retraction. We operate out of Costa Rica. Operia Corp Limited (parent company of Pamper Casino) maintains a presence in London due to legal and contractual obligations. No actual casino related work is done from there.

Pamper Casino's offices are located in Costa Rica. That is where management & part of CS is located. We also have a call center in India that handles the bulk of our CS for our EU clients. I hope that puts this issue to rest once and for all.

3> Finally, Bryan, I also googled +"af=maarten2&bn=44" and did not find anything except a couple advertising links. We do not accept affiliates that spam. The affiliate Maarten works very closely with us and we are pretty sure he is fully compliant on all email guidelines. If Maarten is spamming we wanna know about it. Please PM/email me some stuff on this if you have it.

 

[vinylweatherman]

OK addressing the posts since my last post in this thread.

1> I'm afraid I don't believe Alexi has unsubscribed from the list. She was claiming as of last weekend (last time the newsletter went out) that we (not the affiliate) emailed her the weekly newsletter after she had unsubscribed. That is simply not possible unless she did not unsubscribe correctly. We have less than zero interest in mailing to a player who is unsubscribing from the promotions. It makes us no money and causes unnecessary headaches like this thread.

NO ONE else anywhere on the internet is claiming they have unsubscribed from our weekly newsletter and continue to get our emails since that simply does not happen. So either Alexi does not know how to do it or does not want to do it.

Either way, Alexi, please provide me your email to have you removed from the list. If you refuse to provide it and continue to post our weekly newsletters here and keep claiming they are spam I can only assume you are not interested in unsubscribing and want to continue this and I will stop responding to your claims.

We share our unsubscribe list with all affiliates who do permission based email marketing as we do not want people who don't wanna hear from us to hear from our affiliates either. So if Alexi unsubscribed from our list she would not hear from this affiliate either. I am looking forward to her getting our weekly newsletter this weekend and claiming that it is spam again.

2> Regarding Vinyl's claims, who is not a customer and who I unfortunately again have to address due to his very vivid imagination (vis-a-vis the "office pizzeria" stuff this time) 30 Borough High Street is indeed a business complex in London. You can have a look at all the offices there at :

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

We have never claimed the casino operates out of the London office. I made that pretty clear to Bryan before he posted his retraction. We operate out of Costa Rica. Operia Corp Limited (parent company of Pamper Casino) maintains a presence in London due to legal and contractual obligations. No actual casino related work is done from there.

Pamper Casino's offices are located in Costa Rica. That is where management & part of CS is located. We also have a call center in India that handles the bulk of our CS for our EU clients. I hope that puts this issue to rest once and for all.

3> Finally, Bryan, I also googled +"af=maarten2&bn=44" and did not find anything except a couple advertising links. We do not accept affiliates that spam. The affiliate Maarten works very closely with us and we are pretty sure he is fully compliant on all email guidelines. If Maarten is spamming we wanna know about it. Please PM/email me some stuff on this if you have it.

1) - So basically, you are calling Alexi a liar. It is totally impossible for YOU to be wrong, therefore Alexi cannot possibly have unsubscribed.

OK, Alexi, how about unsubscribing again, and posting a screenshot of the process, including any message of success you get. Then see if there is any further issuance of the newsletter next weekend.

2) I can accept that there are many businesses along that particular street, except that Operia Corp is NOT ONE OF THEM!!!!!!

According to that London website you quoted, you have no presence there - you had better tell them they have missed you out, it is only causing damage to your reputation.

Since when were players interested in the address of a tiny office purely present for regulatory purposes. They are interested in where the CASINO is based and run from, THIS is the regulatory regime that is going to govern their gaming and financial transactions.

Costa Rica cannot even regulate it's own affairs well, let alone offer a regime for regulating Internet casinos.

What does the parent company, Operia Corp Limited actually do? The casino, naturally, is merely a subsidiary based in Costa Rica, so we would expect the parent company to be running a mainstream business.

Could Operia merely be a registered shell company, a convenient way to run an offshore casino with an air of legitimacy by being able to appear to the unwary to be British run. The "regulatory requirement" would then simply be the need to have a registered UK office, even if it had no staff or function.

 

[Alexishot69]

you know

something ...as a 29 yr old female only 1 time in my life have i been called a liar and that was telling my mother at 3 NO i hadnt shit myself when i had...lol...ironically along comes pampers and accuse me of a similar thing...anyhow if vinyl or casinomeister contacts me i will GLADLY give them the password to my email addy and they will see i am not telling lies....pamper maybe you oughta addrss also where you werre voted NO1 BEST RECOMMENDATIONS no-download casino or cant you read that bit

 

[catrina m]

This is interesting reading to say the least.

Can this casino handle the load in the pampers or is it leaking down their leg?

Stay tuned to the weather report.

Vinyl that is!

 

[Alexishot69]

i noticed

Thta the pamper rep was on the forum earlier but still; evades the questions put to him regarding the BEST RECOMMENDATIONS amongst other queries...im also reading they also now have a 2200% bonus...

 

[vinylweatherman]

Thta the pamper rep was on the forum earlier but still; evades the questions put to him regarding the BEST RECOMMENDATIONS amongst other queries...im also reading they also now have a 2200% bonus...

That's inflation for you

Could be seeing a rise in WR by the "central cashier" to curb it

I would expect bonuses to top 3000% by the fourth quarter of 2008, driven mainly by the pressures of players who are less and less willing to play here with such unbelievable bonus offers

"BEST RECOMMENDATIONS Magazine" - no sign of it in Google, and only 7 hits on that phrase, one being this thread, and two being from "iContact community" where a Pamper rep is trawling for "affiliates" by offering 50% of hold payment per player.


iContact Community gives the address of Pamper simply (and correctly) as "Costa Rica" , none of this London business complex/Operia stuff.