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What i find weird is these streamers seam to hit these big wins on a regular basis compared to your average punter. Random games and all
Opinion about fake money streamers?
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What i find weird is these streamers seam to hit these big wins on a regular basis compared to your average punter. Random games and all
It's because they get more bonus to win back any losses than the average player, there also using a bulk of 'sign up' money, so in effect not really using a lot of there own cash.
Some streamers are also allowed to bet over max bet when using a bonus, which gives them a huge edge over the average joe...
It's not really a true representation of slot play, but each to there own I guess should they want to watch.
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slotspinner channel is nice.
Letsgiveitaspin is way too affiliaty, his chat is downright awful and way too many clicky people. And I dont like how they have leovegas reps in there all stream long enticing people to sign up. Def not a fan of that channel at all.
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What i find weird is these streamers seam to hit these big wins on a regular basis compared to your average punter. Random games and all
There have been a few people make this claim. I can say that with alot of streamers its untrue. The only ones that I find incredibly lucky is casinodaddy. They seem to be able to bet $2-$5 all stream long and it usually last 8 hours with a cashout. They said they are in profit by the thousands every month for many months in a row.
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I Think my honeymoon is over there also, once you get to know the score its all the same crap.
Do not get me wrong there are some good people but just have not got the time to waste whaching and hearing the same thing
Absolutely right, in a way its not a true reflection of how play is and also when there is one rule for the streamer and another for the normal joe than thats where trouble hits, Broke the rules etc as bet to much or played the wrong game
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I see what you mean about Letsgiveitaspin, but if you stay on his stream you will notice that is making a lot of mentions about responsible playing, when he is getting some screenshots sent, he is often complaining about the betsize, and saying that people shouldn´t bet that high, not to take him as an example, because he can afford to lose it. So he doesn´t seem to be in it for the money, and the Leovegas thing actually really benefits the viewers, because they are able to participate in raffles and getting exclusive leovegas promos, just like casinomeister exclusives
What do you mean by "clicky people"?
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Tomedo Tomado, I never cared whether they are playing with real money or bonus money or casino money.
Followed a few streamers for a while but I quit watching as it tends to get quite boring after some time, sorry streamers.
The only one I would still watch is FatsoPlays as he is such a fun person to watch when he streams and he is as genuine as you can get them...He is still on a break I think but I would watch him anytime when he'd come back.
Not your average cliché stuff you hear on every stream from some streamers and I agree, some streamers seriously take the piss trying everything in the book to get you signed up through their affy links.
It's up to a point where it gets so obvious that it becomes rather cheesy.
These days I enjoy just the winner video's as that is where the action is anyway.
Watching a 5 hour stream get's tiring.
Followed a few streamers for a while but I quit watching as it tends to get quite boring after some time, sorry streamers.
The only one I would still watch is FatsoPlays as he is such a fun person to watch when he streams and he is as genuine as you can get them...He is still on a break I think but I would watch him anytime when he'd come back.
Not your average cliché stuff you hear on every stream from some streamers and I agree, some streamers seriously take the piss trying everything in the book to get you signed up through their affy links.
It's up to a point where it gets so obvious that it becomes rather cheesy.
These days I enjoy just the winner video's as that is where the action is anyway.
Watching a 5 hour stream get's tiring.
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I see what you mean about Letsgiveitaspin, but if you stay on his stream you will notice that is making a lot of mentions about responsible playing, when he is getting some screenshots sent, he is often complaining about the betsize, and saying that people shouldn´t bet that high, not to take him as an example, because he can afford to lose it. So he doesn´t seem to be in it for the money, and the Leovegas thing actually really benefits the viewers, because they are able to participate in raffles and getting exclusive leovegas promos, just like casinomeister exclusives
What do you mean by "clicky people"?
He may preach responsible gaming sometimes but lets be honest here. Who is going to listen? People gamble as they please.
I disagree about it benefiting the viewers. It benefits the casino. People sign up, play some freespins, get hooked and lose money on their site. This is what leovegas wants and is hoping for. Trust me, they arent doing it out of the goodness of their heart. The casino doesnt pay reps to have fun on twitch. They pay them hoping to recruit players.
Which may seem harmless to some which is fine. But I dont like it. I go to relax and watch a stream not be bombarded by reps and just knowing their intention is a huge turn off.
By clicky, I mean too many people being buddy buddy with a select group while ignoring alot of others or not so accepting of others.
If Kim wasnt in it for the money, he wouldnt have affiliate links and a forum full of affiliate links and bots posting his affiliate link every minute. There is a difference about not being in it for the money and not being aggressive. He just isnt aggressive.
Im not saying he is a bad guy and he has every right to make money or do as he pleases. Im just not a fan of the channel is all
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Best post about streaming I've read in ages. Top stuff and totally agree.
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What i find weird is these streamers seam to hit these big wins on a regular basis compared to your average punter. Random games and all
Personally I find live streams utterly boring and pointless but to suggest the game are some how gimped in there favor is not true. The games will play in the same random way.
Its all in the "seem to hit these big wins" .... just foil hat theory. Which on the other "ask me anything about slots" has now been put to bed I hope. If I ever felt i was not getting
a fair game I would stop all together. And im saying that on the back of a terrible run the past 2 weeks.
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Thanks for explaining.
I am not sure about the benefits, but usually casinos do those things anyway, just with less of a reward, Kims viewers just get more when watching him. They all lure players and of course they are just looking for more people and signups, no question. I wasn´t actually suggesting that Leovegas does something good here, not at all. But I think something good comes from Kims affliation with Leovegas. I doubt he needs the money, but I don´t know so I won´t argue, but I think he does it to be able to make raffles and special promos, which he wouldn´t be able to do without. I might be naive, but I really thing he is a genuine nice guy, who just wants his viewers to have some benefits. That said, I respect your opinion, and I totally see how its something people can dislike.
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Also on loads of streams ----->> The freebee leechers.
You can pick them out from the chat without any problems.
So hate those suckers.
You can pick them out from the chat without any problems.
So hate those suckers.
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Yeah, they're bad but the little kids watching the stream are worse. They have disrupted many a stream with their antics. I avoid chatting now in the more popular streams.
If you can't afford to gamble with your own money then you need to find another hobby. Also, some of them are complete sycophants to the streamer. People will trade in their dignity for anything now.
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Well I have just loged onto twitch now to see whats going on after the boxing,
What a right mess and how on earth leoveags can let this carry on is beyond me. There is about 10 blokes all drunk and playing from one account
I am really speechless
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No doubt the shilly casino grounds scum.
If I'm wrong by all means correct me.
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I will say its letsgiveit------
Wow I was shocked to see what I saw. I have not got nothing wrong with what people do but this was just silly. Grown men shouting and screaming drinking, when I say grown men than one must of been 50 years of age.
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Standard practice for this group of 'affiliates'
I do have certain issues I'd like addressing with certain 'steamers' within this group.
And In due course I'll have my say.
Responsible gambling?... really...
Certain people have no moral standings at all.
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Make sure you have plenty of shovels and a gas mask, Most of them are so far up each others arss you be digging a long time.
No disrespect to the individuals streamers and affiliates out there that are doing things right
Its just a sore site when see some of the antics some get up to. Like I always say I have nothing against what any person does but its just the morals some people carry on with
These streams take planning.
This latest seems to be in a bar.
We have the girls, the beer, and slots stream.
It reminds me of Heffner and Playboy parties.
Its like the old cigarette adverts.
Its basically saying to anyone that is watching "Want to be cool ?, Want to have girls on your arm ?, Do you want to be a popular Man/Woman ?, Do you want to be the life and soul of the party? Then smoke Players. The cigarette for winners. Players are not only cool tasting, they also make you look cool."
Cigarettes turned out to be pretty bad for you.
This stream was planned to be like it is, Socialites, booze, gambling.
I think it is probably just as damaging as cigarette adverts.
Time will tell.
This latest seems to be in a bar.
We have the girls, the beer, and slots stream.
It reminds me of Heffner and Playboy parties.
Its like the old cigarette adverts.
Its basically saying to anyone that is watching "Want to be cool ?, Want to have girls on your arm ?, Do you want to be a popular Man/Woman ?, Do you want to be the life and soul of the party? Then smoke Players. The cigarette for winners. Players are not only cool tasting, they also make you look cool."
Cigarettes turned out to be pretty bad for you.
This stream was planned to be like it is, Socialites, booze, gambling.
I think it is probably just as damaging as cigarette adverts.
Time will tell.
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The party has been going on all week. Kim's friend Reggie finally is a resident of Sweden and they are celebrating. They will use their platform to share their lives with their fans.
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I've nothing against a decent and moral affiliate either.
Fact is this group are not.
I have emails, dialogue from the places they stream from.
And as said I'll post this information in due course.
Streaming is and steamers are in this certain group or people the plague of online gaming.
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Do people still watch this shit? Yes, I've heard Sat. night TV is abysmal plus you're likely to come across that pair of Geordie c*nts to boot and moronic 'talent' shows for the mouth breathers to watch but even so, watching twatchers instead? Can't people read a good book, go to the cinema or have a few pals round for a social?
Cut to the chase - they are functioning addicts, and only because their habit is being funded in part by sponsoring casinos and mainly by inciting you to sign-up and get them 50 euros a time if you deposit 20. If they ain't addicts, they soon will be and their problems will start when the free funding dries up later and they find that they NEED to play.
TBH I think the casinos should steer clear of this sort of advertising as they have no control over the content and there could easily be another 'Casumo' sooner or later.
It is also illegal to hold public raffles or lotteries without a license in most EU countries, plus the UK, where the entrant's chance is conditional upon spending money or making a purchase. All it needs is one savvy or unhappy viewer to report this and these could be shut down overnight.
So yes, at present many of the twatching channels are using casino affy links in breach of the terms by placing them and using them in potentially unlawful ways.
I've a feeling the responsible casinos will be instructing their affiliates not to use their links like this in the very near future.
Cut to the chase - they are functioning addicts, and only because their habit is being funded in part by sponsoring casinos and mainly by inciting you to sign-up and get them 50 euros a time if you deposit 20. If they ain't addicts, they soon will be and their problems will start when the free funding dries up later and they find that they NEED to play.
TBH I think the casinos should steer clear of this sort of advertising as they have no control over the content and there could easily be another 'Casumo' sooner or later.
It is also illegal to hold public raffles or lotteries without a license in most EU countries, plus the UK, where the entrant's chance is conditional upon spending money or making a purchase. All it needs is one savvy or unhappy viewer to report this and these could be shut down overnight.
So yes, at present many of the twatching channels are using casino affy links in breach of the terms by placing them and using them in potentially unlawful ways.
I've a feeling the responsible casinos will be instructing their affiliates not to use their links like this in the very near future.
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If Leo Vegas is the one holding the raffles/lotteries and have allowed Kim Hultman to handle the drawing, then does that change anything? Letsgiveitaspin may or may not be an employee of Leo Vegas, nobody know for sure.
However, it wouldn't surprise me if many of his viewers on Twatch/DoucheTube (I like how you mock social media in that post to Crybaby Mc Cryface) are under age and that would also make it illegal as is.
If Leo Vegas is the one holding the raffles/lotteries and have allowed Kim Hultman to handle the drawing, then does that change anything? Letsgiveitaspin may or may not be an employee of Leo Vegas, nobody know for sure.
However, it wouldn't surprise me if many of his viewers on Twatch/DoucheTube (I like how you mock social media in that post to Crybaby Mc Cryface) are under age and that would also make it illegal as is.
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Do people still watch this shit? Yes, I've heard Sat. night TV is abysmal plus you're likely to come across that pair of Geordie c*nts to boot and moronic 'talent' shows for the mouth breathers to watch but even so, watching twatchers instead? Can't people read a good book, go to the cinema or have a few pals round for a social?
Cut to the chase - they are functioning addicts, and only because their habit is being funded in part by sponsoring casinos and mainly by inciting you to sign-up and get them 50 euros a time if you deposit 20. If they ain't addicts, they soon will be and their problems will start when the free funding dries up later and they find that they NEED to play.
TBH I think the casinos should steer clear of this sort of advertising as they have no control over the content and there could easily be another 'Casumo' sooner or later.
It is also illegal to hold public raffles or lotteries without a license in most EU countries, plus the UK, where the entrant's chance is conditional upon spending money or making a purchase. All it needs is one savvy or unhappy viewer to report this and these could be shut down overnight.
So yes, at present many of the twatching channels are using casino affy links in breach of the terms by placing them and using them in potentially unlawful ways.
I've a feeling the responsible casinos will be instructing their affiliates not to use their links like this in the very near future.
You would be surprised how scummy some of these legit casinos are when it comes to greed and advertising. Ive had a few Canadian streamers approach me for my opinion and tell me some of these casinos have contacted them wanting them to play with fake money but pretend its real to attract new sign ups.
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I do log in now and than and thats mainly to see whats going on. I had just finished whaching the boxing last night and board shitless with the free roll at VS on fruit whack. The boxing was not much good either, if I wanted to whach people cuddle up I would tune in to tsome cartoons. more punch in a glass of lemonade than there is in boxing now days.
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LOL I saw that in the pub last night in town, 'Special K' battered by Golovkin now battered by the American bloke too. He'd better quit now, he's almost lost his right eye to GGG and his left last night. Whichever weight division he chooses, he's got a fighter that is simply too good for him. That GGG guy (Gennady Golovkin) is a machine, he'll retire unbeaten as possibly the best middleweight ever.
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Personally I never watch Live streams as I find it anally boring. BUT .... there is going to be huge money in this in the coming few years. Just as happened with the top gamers xbox PS2 - a few of which have literally made millions from the online streams through ad revenue and sponsorship. Im not a gamer at all, but I find it fascinating how different former pass times can become a real cash cow!
Live stream platforms such as twitch for casinos are here to stay and will only get more refined. And 100% casinos will NOT drop this form of advertising the same as the game developers for Play station and so on see this as a critical and very lucrative form of promotion. We will see much more involvement directly from the casino game developers in the next few years ... and this is where the money will be for affiliates.
My own business ventures are taking me away from casinos even though I did think long and hard about going the casino route - I need to stick to what I know .... but If I was to come into the casino affiliate side of things, streaming would be a must to make serious revenue in the long term.
Love it or hate it - its here to stay and is only going to get bigger.
P.S IF I was Dunover with his unique brutally honest (and oft foul mouthed ) way of doing his videos I would be in on this Now! No matter if you like it or not.
Live stream platforms such as twitch for casinos are here to stay and will only get more refined. And 100% casinos will NOT drop this form of advertising the same as the game developers for Play station and so on see this as a critical and very lucrative form of promotion. We will see much more involvement directly from the casino game developers in the next few years ... and this is where the money will be for affiliates.
My own business ventures are taking me away from casinos even though I did think long and hard about going the casino route - I need to stick to what I know .... but If I was to come into the casino affiliate side of things, streaming would be a must to make serious revenue in the long term.
Love it or hate it - its here to stay and is only going to get bigger.
P.S IF I was Dunover with his unique brutally honest (and oft foul mouthed ) way of doing his videos I would be in on this Now! No matter if you like it or not.
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HeHeHe Yep could not fight hes way out of a paper bag, Round 10 after he had been butchered was a cracking round, if he had fought like that from the off than he may have stood a chance.
What actually made the night interesting was not even the fights but the boxers that was not fighting talking BS such as Khan before the fight he said the whole of Britain would love to see the fight against him and K, than after the fight he still said I would still like to fight him and it will be a pay per view. NO only reason the whole of U.K would tune in is to finally see the glass jaw of khan finally shattered
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LOL And the 'Finnish answer to dunover' (Suomikala) as McGameboy puts it, makes some honest ones too. As you say it's about 'refinement' and his and Craig's are quite watchable in that there is no BS but it's still anything goes at the moment and I have had a few affiliate accounts that have stated they don't want to be linked to YT, not because of my content or expletives but as a general policy - presumably it'd be too much hassle for them to police it.
I have done a few private paid slot reviews for smaller but growing developers pre-release and believe it or not the first was a bit concerned when they saw the end product that I hadn't sworn at or abused the game enough!! I explained (they were foreign) that I believed the principle of being paid to do a job meant higher standards of behaviour and being politely objective rather than ripping it apart for the sake of it if it was actually OK.
Back to twatching (I'd prefer 'streaming') you are possibly correct in terms of affiliate business and I have considered it but I suppose my feelings centre around the fact I wouldn't personally watch it myself. Unlike a video whereby you can forward it to find the key points where the player balance rises suddenly etc. you are pretty much filling the long quiet spells up with text requests like 'pick that one' or 'play this slot' which I find a bit silly especially when at sites like Virgin Games I immediately hide the chat column, but then if viewers like it....
The fact remains though that casinos are taking a risk here by associating their links with groups of drunks playing (irresponsible gambling), illegal raffles and certainly instances of misleading viewers by using play money or sponsored balances.
I think that the streams should not necessarily be censored, but the casinos should insist on say a banner or box under the window stating "fun balance" or 'real money sponsored balance" or simply "player real money funds with/without bonus". This may help stop the BS many on here have pointed out that's occurring.
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Understood and yes some casinos wont fit with your style. BUT .... there is no rule about expletives ... and some of the top gamers (that big guy cant remember his name ) forever cussing out loud and he has made a fortune purely on YT ad revenue. You dont even need to do it through it Twitch ... and dont need to rely only of casino affiliate revenue. Rather you monetize your YT channel - and throw in live streams up there - so you can make your own terms and conditions, such as play money, or what ever.... and go with any casino you like.
Example only a hand full of gamers get sponsored by Sony and so on, but ALL make money through the ad revenue generate by YT ... and if you get sponsors to sponsor your gaming - who take part of that revenue in return - the rewards can be massive without ever having the need to go near a casino affiliate program.
Thats how I would approach it - but hey who the fuck am I ha ....
Would I sponsor a business model like this ? maybe ... if it was right.
Would I go live and do my own streams ? No thats not me ... but people do make money in the back ground for sure!
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Yes, I am monetized and get a small monthly amount from Google AdSense and yes, if I ever considered it I would do it via YT not Twatch. Trust me you'd be better of with a CPA affy deal than AD revenue. You can get a decent amount from Ads on YT but you would need to be having far higher viewing figures than the people you mention. I get between 10 and 20k views per week and that earns less than a ton per month. The ones making a 4 or 5-figure monthly ad income are those with literally millions of subscribers and viewers which as you say those with PS2/Xbox subjects can get - slots won't. Sponsorship would pay far more pro-rata. Plus YT may suddenly have one of their 'turns' like a couple of years back when they summarily and arbitrarily shut down hundreds of YT channels and videos to do with gambling - ask Simmo! I believe he was affected at the time IIRC. I wasn't for some reason, possibly because they weren't being used or linked to through any gambling-related or promoting websites, and still aren't.
Any YT-based gambling stuff is a risky proposition to invest time and money in, as they can (and have in the past) simply wipe you off in a second - permanently.
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Really off-topic, but you can't be following boxing very much. Did you see Joshua vs Klitschko? One of the best heavyweight fights in decades. And the other huge bills we have coming up in the next months. 2017 will be a great year for boxing.
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Do I which boxing much ? Yes
And yes I did see that fight, it was not that bad to be honest but very rare you see a decent boxing match and that was my point
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very well said, Mr Dunover.
I am 47 yo, I am supposed to be wise, and very often I see young guys and gals trying to learn all the worst things from internet. Of course, to find themselves ruined, broken, depressed, screwed.
Some "rules" must be applied, someway, to this twitching thing.
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Reading these latest comments (not the boxing ones, though) made me think of the South Park episode Chef Aid. Seems like the streamers and the casinos they play at say "I am above the law!" and will administer the "Chewbacca defense".
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Hi Colin, any input with the email I sent you mate.I'm still waiting for Rizk to come back to me about the dodgy as fuck raffle they were involved with at Xmas, they must think I've forgot about it
Nice to see where joining you in the championship next season
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The main problem is that there not really showing the true representation
I will give a few examples - - When a few have streamed videoslots than they actually received any bonus UPFRONT and not the true 10% increments that they would of got when signed up
Also max bet rule - - This does not apply to most streamers that has contacted the casino to get some deal while streaming, people will be seeing bets being placed much higher than normally allowed
Playing non allowed games
A casino cannot do much if someone is steaming except close there account or give them a warning, but if a streamer is actually promoting a casino than that casino should dam well make sure that the streamer is giving a true reflection of what a new sign up can or cannot do. One streamer I have seen gets asked a question about wager and he is like a rabbit in a headlight Urm urm urm wager is this amount on this
its a turn over BUT you can take out anythink after so urm if you win urm 10k you can take this out if if if. NO if's as they no dam well what the score is but trying to mask the true fact about the wager
I have not a problem with streamers as if you do not like than do not watch, but gambling is a serious thing and (some) streamers really should take caution instead of it being all fun and games
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The main problem is that there not really showing the true representation
I will give a few examples - - When a few have streamed videoslots than they actually received any bonus UPFRONT and not the true 10% increments that they would of got when signed up
Also max bet rule - - This does not apply to most streamers that has contacted the casino to get some deal while streaming, people will be seeing bets being placed much higher than normally allowed
Playing non allowed games
A casino cannot do much if someone is steaming except close there account or give them a warning, but if a streamer is actually promoting a casino than that casino should dam well make sure that the streamer is giving a true reflection of what a new sign up can or cannot do. One streamer I have seen gets asked a question about wager and he is like a rabbit in a headlight Urm urm urm wager is this amount on this
NO if's as they no dam well what the score is but trying to mask the true fact about the wager
I have not a problem with streamers as if you do not like than do not watch, but gambling is a serious thing and (some) streamers really should take caution instead of it being all fun and games
You mean things like telling everyone you can save bonus rounds till after you use the deposit money, telling people he checked with Rizk and it was ok, when in fact he was lying, that type of thing
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Hi Colin, any input with the email I sent you mate.
Nice to see where joining you in the championship next season
Not had time yet mate, I might tomorrow depending on how bad the weather is. Yeah, no good is it
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The main problem is that there not really showing the true representation
I will give a few examples - - When a few have streamed videoslots than they actually received any bonus UPFRONT and not the true 10% increments that they would of got when signed up
Also max bet rule - - This does not apply to most streamers that has contacted the casino to get some deal while streaming, people will be seeing bets being placed much higher than normally allowed
Playing non allowed games
A casino cannot do much if someone is steaming except close there account or give them a warning, but if a streamer is actually promoting a casino than that casino should dam well make sure that the streamer is giving a true reflection of what a new sign up can or cannot do. One streamer I have seen gets asked a question about wager and he is like a rabbit in a headlight Urm urm urm wager is this amount on this
NO if's as they no dam well what the score is but trying to mask the true fact about the wager
I have not a problem with streamers as if you do not like than do not watch, but gambling is a serious thing and (some) streamers really should take caution instead of it being all fun and games
Casino rewards has been contacting some streamers and asking them to play with fake money and telling them what we give you, you cannot cashout. But we will work out another deal with you.
I cant prove this but this is what I was told by two Canadian streamers that I know pretty well and trust.
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It's absolutely not the case a streamer represents a casino and there rules to the word.The main problem is that there not really showing the true representation
I will give a few examples - - When a few have streamed videoslots than they actually received any bonus UPFRONT and not the true 10% increments that they would of got when signed up
Also max bet rule - - This does not apply to most streamers that has contacted the casino to get some deal while streaming, people will be seeing bets being placed much higher than normally allowed
Playing non allowed games
A casino cannot do much if someone is steaming except close there account or give them a warning, but if a streamer is actually promoting a casino than that casino should dam well make sure that the streamer is giving a true reflection of what a new sign up can or cannot do. One streamer I have seen gets asked a question about wager and he is like a rabbit in a headlight Urm urm urm wager is this amount on this
NO if's as they no dam well what the score is but trying to mask the true fact about the wager
I have not a problem with streamers as if you do not like than do not watch, but gambling is a serious thing and (some) streamers really should take caution instead of it being all fun and games
I've contacted 2 accredited casinos on here regarding a streamer and the literal lies they spout. One even told me the streamer didn't contact them at all about being allowed to stack free spins rounds and bonus features using a bonus, even though that streamer said live on steam ' he contacted his affiliate manager and it was allowed) I have a email from his affiliate manager confirming he never asked. How shady is that?..
then you have streamers signing up at new casinos, failing to mention the places if they have self excluded accounts from that if a viewer signs up to they won't be paid....
and no not all 'streamers' are bad, but certain ones from certain groups are totally M.I.A when it comes to official rules and advising players.
That streamer in question I mention, after telling people it's ok to bonus stack live on stream, had to back track and tell people the exact opposite when miraculously his wagering was re attached to his account, only may i add after someone contacted the casino he was playing at and pointed this out.
Stream fair and honest, have morals then great I'm all for that.
Use shady tactics and blatant lies, then sorry no!.. just no!...
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You mean things like telling everyone you can save bonus rounds till after you use the deposit money, telling people he checked with Rizk and it was ok, when in fact he was lying, that type of thing
just like now, Ask Roshtein what is the max bet allowed and again huming and ifing. £10 max bet but here is the kicker he won 61k the othyer day playing £30 bets
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That's a fine point that.You mean things like telling everyone you can save bonus rounds till after you use the deposit money, telling people he checked with Rizk and it was ok, when in fact he was lying, that type of thing
It can also be checked on YouTube I think...
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You mean things like telling everyone you can save bonus rounds till after you use the deposit money, telling people he checked with Rizk and it was ok, when in fact he was lying, that type of thing
Reckon it'll be a 1st and 2nd mate in the championship for the countries 2 finest north eastern teams!...Not had time yet mate, I might tomorrow depending on how bad the weather is. Yeah, no good is it
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well i think some of those guys are really good entertainers and thats really important thing to consider here 
They also have really good offers which benefits both them and casinos in question, meaning they can stream longer so i agree how that might create wrong picture for people who are new to online casinos but then again its just a new form of marketing and people who embrace it first are going to benefit most of it. Just like people who created affi websites did in the past, so i dont really see anything wrong there (other than fake money ones obviously).
oh and at first i really thought roshtein was very fake but now im like 100% convinced hes just a regular affiliate. Especially now when multilotto might try to scam him for his huge win (61k win on 30 eur bet on BoD). After his hit they added max bet clause to their T&C (and ninja added it, no notice or anything like that) so it wouldnt surprise me if they try to pull some shady $#($# hoping to confiscate his winnings.
and its all happening while hes streaming live, so some casinos really have no decency whatsoever. And thats kids why you dont play at random places
They also have really good offers which benefits both them and casinos in question, meaning they can stream longer so i agree how that might create wrong picture for people who are new to online casinos but then again its just a new form of marketing and people who embrace it first are going to benefit most of it. Just like people who created affi websites did in the past, so i dont really see anything wrong there (other than fake money ones obviously).oh and at first i really thought roshtein was very fake but now im like 100% convinced hes just a regular affiliate. Especially now when multilotto might try to scam him for his huge win (61k win on 30 eur bet on BoD). After his hit they added max bet clause to their T&C (and ninja added it, no notice or anything like that) so it wouldnt surprise me if they try to pull some shady $#($# hoping to confiscate his winnings.
and its all happening while hes streaming live, so some casinos really have no decency whatsoever. And thats kids why you dont play at random places
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Editing my post so I dont get in trouble
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Anyone else have roshtein on their facebook today?
pretty damn annoying with the false advertising too and no idea how its on my fb
pretty damn annoying with the false advertising too and no idea how its on my fb
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@lockinlove
I do everything to avoid seeing the Vince Russo of Malta anywhere.
I've stopped watching streams except for BALL1NLIVE. Just a bunch of affiliates playing with fake money or Russians with viewbots now. All the legitimate gamblers have abandoned Twitch.
I've also stopped watching attention seekers on YouTube. I do not condone the glorifying of gambling in any way, shape or form. People have had their lives destroyed by it and yet everyday these desperate for attention gamblers put up video of themselves playing high limit slots at their locals or abroad. They have killed off any interest I once had. I don't have the time to watch multiple 25 minute vanity pieces.
I do everything to avoid seeing the Vince Russo of Malta anywhere.
I've stopped watching streams except for BALL1NLIVE. Just a bunch of affiliates playing with fake money or Russians with viewbots now. All the legitimate gamblers have abandoned Twitch.
I've also stopped watching attention seekers on YouTube. I do not condone the glorifying of gambling in any way, shape or form. People have had their lives destroyed by it and yet everyday these desperate for attention gamblers put up video of themselves playing high limit slots at their locals or abroad. They have killed off any interest I once had. I don't have the time to watch multiple 25 minute vanity pieces.
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I seen it all now
There should be a clamp down on this shit.
What ever happen to genuine no profit sites or just a few of there own advertisements. Now its all cross war on who can make the most profits with bull shits storys with the likes of this advert and the and the rest of the garbage that is advertised.
You will not be able to piss soon without some wanker's arm poping up through the toilet trying to sell you dick enlargement. The whole industry is a disgrace
