Opinion about fake money streamers?

[lockinlove]

I recall the stream where Kim had a party with lots of Maja's female friends and I don't recall the women ever being upset about the comments and I don't recall any catcalls that were offensive.

I dont think you do remember. At all. Dozens of people were banned. Tonnes of warnings issued etc.

You must be thinking of another streamer or something. You can read another thread around here about it. A few other people comments on it.

And some of the females were kims friends, and Maja's sister not all Maja's friends.

And most of those girls didnt even read the chat and what was said.

It was pathetic. A bunch of 12 year old boys seeing a female for the first time.

 

[LOOKAWAY]

Emotion/tied to highs and lows.

Players who can make you smile.

Watching someone play slots or uploaded content is time consuming so it better be for real.

I like the new guy posting in winner videos suomikala87.

Dunnover also, someone should tell him there is more J,Q,K'S on real one on Raging Rhino

But my favorite player off all time is Vegas Low Roller on You Tube.

 

[hedgehok]

I agree it's misleading to title the stream as real play when there is evidence they play with fake funds.

With the twitch streams casinos are able to reach a different kind of (younger) gamblers. Gamblers with a gaming background. I used to watch Starcraft II streams a lot in the past and was surprised about all these gambling streams. I watched CasinoTwitcher a couple of times but I really don't bother that much.

Even the most reputable casinos like Videoslots, Casumo or LeoVegas (semi-)sponsor the streamers either directly or indirectly with their affiliate commissions. I have no strong opinion about that. In the end it's like always the weak that pay the bill.

 

[interlog]

I have been doing some streams recently (with my own real money). Managed to get 8 viewers at one point in time (wow!!), no followers.

I do watch other streams and find some of them interesting. Nickslots in particular is pretty good. I do also watch CasinoTwitcher and Letsgiveitaspin occasionally.

Last week there was also a new streamer that blew £5,000 in one night doing insane bets.

With most of these streamers you have to, in my opinion, take the number of viewers / followers with a pinch of salt. They all give out free stuff but in order to win that free stuff you need to clock up watching time and you have to follow. You see it all the time, comments in chat such as "what time is the raffle". My guess is that most (not all) people that ask this will go and do something else until the raffle so you have to question whether they are really viewing the stream. And they only have followed else they can't win the freebies.

As to people playing with fake money. Providing that they are honest about it, then it is the viewers choice to watch or not. It is wrong if they give out false information and mislead the viewer.

 

[Borgie]

I do watch streams here and there (once, twice a week) for a short time.

Not watched any of the 'fake money' as you describe and nor would I would be like playing my own accounts in 'fun' mode, IE: Pointless.

Now to watch a low roller (such as myself) playing I would enjoy that. Geoff (slotmesiter) was my fave but he doesn't go live so often these days.

CT is my second choice and although he seems a great guy and organises well, plays a huge variety of games etc, I am also slightly put off my his enormous bank roll (not seen evidence of this but doesn't take a lot of working out)

My idea live stream would be to watch a player turn £50 (of their OWN money) into 1K on an average of 0.5 bets for example, that would be honest entertainment, probably why I enjoy Dunovers videos so much also

CT is a genuine streamer. Casumo do NOT allow anyway to play with fake money at all so any streamer that is streaming from Casumo is genuine. Casumo do give their VIP streamers a good bonus so CT will be able to take advantage of that BUT that means he has a massive play through to achieve before withdrawing , he is one of the good guys,

 

[Borgie]

Genuine streamers are CT , Nickslots, LetsGiveitaspin, Shirox80, Shaltar, Rexborgesen, lotsOslots,slotmeister. swouters amongst others.

People like CasinoRobot are bad as they pretend they are playing real money and persuade you to sign up via their affiliate link - so they take no risk themselves but want you to play and lose your money to make them money.

 

[spintee]

Genuine streamers are CT , Nickslots, LetsGiveitaspin, Shirox80, Shaltar, Rexborgesen, lotsOslots,slotmeister. swouters amongst others.

People like CasinoRobot are bad as they pretend they are playing real money and persuade you to sign up via their affiliate link - so they take no risk themselves but want you to play and lose your money to make them money.

I have a feeling you are the man Rex himself

But your right, Also casino that allow this to be going on is as bad as the streamer,

 

[Borgie]

I have a feeling you are the man Rex himself

But your right, Also casino that allow this to be going on is as bad as the streamer,

Haha Rex is a bloke with a nice beard I am a lady or I was the last time I checked lol

 

[spintee]

Haha Rex is a bloke with a nice beard I am a lady or I was the last time I checked lol

My apologies

My ex misses had a beard lol, Admittedly not as much as Rex's

 

[Borgie]

My apologies

My ex misses had a beard lol, Admittedly not as much as Rex's

lol yes to grow a beard like Regs as a lady would take some doing ! Hes streaming now

 

[BrianGhattas]

I dont think you do remember. At all. Dozens of people were banned. Tonnes of warnings issued etc.

You must be thinking of another streamer or something. You can read another thread around here about it. A few other people comments on it.

And some of the females were kims friends, and Maja's sister not all Maja's friends.

And most of those girls didnt even read the chat and what was said.

It was pathetic. A bunch of 12 year old boys seeing a female for the first time.

I avoid reading chats when it runs like a ticker. I'll take your word regarding that stream.

 

[Jono777]

CT is a genuine streamer. Casumo do NOT allow anyway to play with fake money at all so any streamer that is streaming from Casumo is genuine. Casumo do give their VIP streamers a good bonus so CT will be able to take advantage of that BUT that means he has a massive play through to achieve before withdrawing , he is one of the good guys,

For sure totally agree, good guy and enjoyable to watch.

Think you misunderstood me slightly maybe, when I said I was put off by his enormous bank roll, I was not referring to that he maybe playing with the casinos money, just that he appears to be comfortably well off with his own finances.

The other element from my viewing point of view well if he loses, so what plenty more where that came from or when he wins, takes the edge of the way I'd buzz about a big win as he is ok for cash anyway.

Probably seems clear as mud, try another way lol, if I lose, I feel the loss as I only allow myself a small gaming budget (20% of disposable once all bills paid) If I win, I can treat myself and the kids, something I cannot do all year around

 

[Jasminebed]

I must confess I don't even have a clue how to watch any of these streams.

I know we have a few members that do them.

I remember Rex well. He won an amazing amount at Spin Palace a few years back, by a combination of luck and upping his bets. It wasn't the first time he'd pushed the envelope successfully either. We exchanged a few pm's at the time, seemed like a nice dude.

 

[spintee]

I must confess I don't even have a clue how to watch any of these streams.

I know we have a few members that do them.

I remember Rex well. He won an amazing amount at Spin Palace a few years back, by a combination of luck and upping his bets. It wasn't the first time he'd pushed the envelope successfully either. We exchanged a few pm's at the time, seemed like a nice dude.

Well he's lattest stream he was down to $80 and than wriggled hes way to over 6k, He was on this morning so do not know how he ended up, I know wager was nearly done

 

[CasinoTwitcher]

CT is my second choice and although he seems a great guy and organises well, plays a huge variety of games etc, I am also slightly put off my his enormous bank roll (not seen evidence of this but doesn't take a lot of working out)

My idea live stream would be to watch a player turn £50 (of their OWN money) into 1K on an average of 0.5 bets for example, that would be honest entertainment, probably why I enjoy Dunovers videos so much also

Just to explain a bit regarding why I do a bit bigger deposits now then when I started to stream. I have to contact my casumo contact (not online 24/7) every time I need a new deposit valuable, and even though I always play from €0.50 to €0.80 on weekdays and €1.00 to €1.20 on Sundays, smaller deposits like €200 etc might disappear in 30 min if I'm running really bad. Since I have committed to stream at least 4h every time I go live (followers are getting notifications etc, so I don't want to alert them for a 25 min stream etc.) I want to make sure that I have enough cash to do this.

Another factor about Twitch is that during a 5-6 hour stream, I average anywhere from 100 to 300 viewers watching at any time, but there might be more than a thousand viewers dropping by during that time. I got so many questions regarding number of deposits etc before when I did smaller deposits, now that I make bigger deposits it's so much easier for the viewers to be able to follow on what's actually happening and how it's been going since their last visit.

Just wanted to clarify the deposit/bet size ratio, as your not the first that have wondered

 

[t4llek]

I love watching people stream, i just have one problem with them, it might be used as an incentive for a lot of kids watching out there, especially the underaged ones, sodapoppin streams wow for 20k viewers(mostly kids)i dont think its appropriate to be betting as much as 5k a hand on blackjack for all those people to see, i know he gets a lot of money for promoting the casino, but come on, i dont want my kid to gamble, im sure most of u here dont want ur kids to gamble, and i think they just make it look like its too easy and carefree when we are talking about a thing that can be fun but can also ruin your life.

 

[SlotGrinder]

Watching Bill Gates do $1000 spins would not be especially entertaining imo because we know the money means nothing to him . Watching someone deposit 50 euros and run it up to 4 figures with some insane good luck can be extremely entertaining , depending on the streamers personality and reactions of course

But if it's "fake" money as in play money then you can't share in the excitement/frustration/highs and lows because there aren't any !!

I don't care if someone is using bonus money which will be converted to real money after a WR . I don't see the issue with that . If someone manages to win money from a casino without having to risk losing their money then I am all for it ! And I don't particularly enjoy seeing someone deposit and then lose their money .. it's the part of slots playing we don't enjoy , right ?

But streaming fake money means fake reactions and it's just a hollow sham basically . Unless you enjoy watching slots spinning like some video game ? Personally I play slots to gamble and try and win money but if there's no money to be won then they are pointless

 

[ihatedealers]

I think the casinos are responsible for it also.. Giving away demo accounts to promote their casino

Here a list of casino's that are giving demo accounts to streamers.

LeoVegas (CasinoRobot)
Amsterdams Casino (CasinoDaddy)
21 Casino (CasinoDaddy)
Cherry Casino (CasinoRobot, LasVegas, Casino)
MultiLotto (Roshtein)
Dunder (Casino)

 

[spintee]

I think the casinos are responsible for it also.. Giving away demo accounts to promote their casino

Here a list of casino's that are giving demo accounts to streamers.

LeoVegas (CasinoRobot)
Amsterdams Casino (CasinoDaddy)
21 Casino (CasinoDaddy)
Cherry Casino (CasinoRobot, LasVegas, Casino)
MultiLotto (Roshtein)
Dunder (Casino)

I certainly agree that casino is to blame also, Unless of course they told the streamer to be upfront, But what would be the point in that?

I doubt Dunder would do such things would they? Maybe cainotwicher can clarify on this, You also would of thought that leo would of known better, But we need actually prove? I know there is some good screen shots but is that proof?

 

[interlog]

I think the casinos are responsible for it also.. Giving away demo accounts to promote their casino

Here a list of casino's that are giving demo accounts to streamers.

LeoVegas (CasinoRobot)
Amsterdams Casino (CasinoDaddy)
21 Casino (CasinoDaddy)
Cherry Casino (CasinoRobot, LasVegas, Casino)
MultiLotto (Roshtein)
Dunder (Casino)

Is this CasinoDaddy that chap that wishes you welcome to the casino when you follow him with that street slang greeting (yoh bro...). Puts me right off that.

 

[spintee]

Is this CasinoDaddy that chap that wishes you welcome to the casino when you follow him with that street slang greeting (yoh bro...). Puts me right off that.

Showing your age there bro didnt you know its all the rage

What ever happened to "Welcome" THANKS FOR THE FOLLOW

 

[CasinoTwitcher]

I doubt Dunder would do such things would they? Maybe cainotwicher can clarify on this, You also would of thought that leo would of known better, But we need actually prove? I know there is some good screen shots but is that proof?

Basically the only thing I know regarding Dunder is that they are funded by Casumo, so I would be surprised if they did.

 

[spintee]

Basically the only thing I know regarding Dunder is that they are funded by Casumo, so I would be surprised if they did.

I only reason I mentioned your name there is I no you did promote dunder for abit, unsure if you still do in your stream, & The reason you did was you said they was related, unsure how exactly related as casumo had been on and stated they only have some people that worked for casumo invested in dunder, But that is here or there,

You have your self gone into depth about fake streamers so when Dunder was mentioned I thought the best man that would know would be CT him self, After all you did promote them and spoke into details about why you think some streamers are not genuine, And as your a streamer yourself and know the ins and out about affiliates and how they work,

Next Stream ?

 

[CasinoTwitcher]

I only reason I mentioned your name there is I no you did promote dunder for abit, unsure if you still do in your stream, & The reason you did was you said they was related, unsure how exactly related as casumo had been on and stated they only have some people that worked for casumo invested in dunder, But that is here or there,

You have your self gone into depth about fake streamers so when Dunder was mentioned I thought the best man that would know would be CT him self, After all you did promote them and spoke into details about why you think some streamers are not genuine, And as your a streamer yourself and know the ins and out about affiliates and how they work,

Next Stream ?

I did and still have some links to them on my webpage, since Casumo have invested in them, I feel confident that they are a good casino as well.

Here's an official statement about relations between Casumo and Dunder:

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Next stream will be tonight in about 20 minutes

 

[spintee]

I did and still have some links to them on my webpage, since Casumo have invested in them, I feel confident that they are a good casino as well.

Here's an official statement about relations between Casumo and Dunder:

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

Next stream will be tonight in about 20 minutes

Cheers mate I go by what I hear and read, Do you no that innovation gaming is owned by Robin Eirik Reed hat CEO of guts, I said many year back that theses sites run back to back,

In all honestly I have not bothered with no searches in about a year but I will be back on the case,

I be going out soon so may just miss the stream but I do not plan nothing so lets see