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How dismissive of you and typical...your question of “you’re still on this” demonstrates of how badly Fox News, the president and his henchpeople have made it seem so normal that this has happened in the USA and it’s a so what? So

...this president has made it seem so normal that conspiring with a foreign government is ok.
What’s the fuss? All normal to choose Russia over your country. Like I said had obama sided with Russia in Helsinki we would have to peel all of you off of the ceiling. The hysteria that a tan suit caused was something but this would send you all into a tail spin. But nope. It’s all normal.

But maybe you’d rather be Russian than a democrat. Oh well.

Collusion is not a crime.

But treason is a crime. conspiracy to defraud the United States is a crime.
And working with a foreign power to sway an election falls under defrauding the Usa. Obstruction...

Election hacking, wire hacking.

Thankfully the no collusion claim means absolutely nothing cuz you don’t fight those kind of claims on twitter or on tv. You fight It in a court of law.

And mueller is getting to that.
 
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The Dems are keeping impeachment quiet because it does not poll well and they want to win seats in the mid terms.

Is this enough?

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No, if Trump did something w/ the Russians the GOP would have no choice.

imo, revisiting the tax cuts means undoing tax cuts.

We already had the ACA conversation a couple weeks ago.


Democrats are not gonna win...they are divided.

The party has been taken over by progressives. The so called socialists.
 
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How dismissive of you and typical...your question of “you’re still on this” demonstrates of how badly Fox News, the president and his henchpeople have made it seem so normal that this has happened in the USA and it’s a so what? So

...this president has made it seem so normal that conspiring with a foreign government is ok.
What’s the fuss? All normal to choose Russia over your country. Like I said had obama sided with Russia in Helsinki we would have to peel all of you off of the ceiling. The hysteria that a tan suit caused was something but this would send you all into a tail spin. But nope. It’s all normal.

But maybe you’d rather be Russian than a democrat. Oh well.

Collusion is not a crime.

But treason is a crime. conspiracy to defraud the United States is a crime.
And working with a foreign power to sway an election falls under defrauding the Usa. Obstruction...

Election hacking, wire hacking.

Thankfully the no collusion claim means absolutely nothing cuz you don’t fight those kind of claims on twitter or on tv. You fight It in a court of law.

And mueller is getting to that.

sorry, no, you want to believe something that has not been proven yet. its innocent until proven guilty in the US, you know this.

When Mueller is done we'll find out one way or another.
 
Maybe time to resurrect this thread because I just came across this article from CNN on my newsfeed, titled: "Finally, Devin Nunes admits what his charade is all about". Apparently, he got recorded on tape while talking to some donors.

Should be clear to all now that this a Mr. T and GOP charade. Nunes speaks about protecting MR. T. Why does he need protection in Nunes' view if Mr. T is sooooo innocent as he relentlessly claims. :rolleyes:

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The part you posted that is opinion/speculation/assumption is the part in bold below. That's what I was referring to.

Speaking to the donors, Nunes said: "if Sessions won't unrecuse and Mueller won't clear the President, we're the only ones. Which is really the danger ... I mean we have to keep all those seats. We have to keep the majority. If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away." Nunes' words made clear that the House's investigation has been a charade designed to protect Trump rather than to reveal the truth.
 
Still circumventing the issue slotplayer: continuing the Trump Agenda is not a valid reason to clear/protect the president (I would say it borders on criminal conduct in this instance). And do you really think there are no serious suspicions? Think again. CNN is not the only source, there are many.

What is the Trump Agenda?
Bringing industry and jobs back to America? Defeating ISIL? Lowering taxes? Restructuring Health Plans? Getting a handle on illegal immigration? Eradicating human trafficking /organ harvesting and other crimes against humanity? Dismantling the Shadow Government? Rebuilding US Military and Implementing a Space Force?

They are protecting him from unwarranted impeachment.

Oh I know... Russia Russia Russia. Give me a break.
THIS is what POTUS served the Russians BEFORE his visit with Putin:

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So tell me, WHO do you think is running who and where was CNN and other major news outlets when this transpired? Did you read Trump boasting about it in a tweet? Did you hear him defend himself with this incredible information while the media and Liberals talked so much crap about him sucking up to Putin? No? Well that's weird, because this doesn't sound like the Donald Trump that his opponents describe. Weird. Really weird.


Harry's excerpt was from a CNN opinion piece.
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Never a dull moment when Harry posts!!! :laugh: :thumbsup::laugh:
 
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That smile makes you wonder if Qanon and it's tin foil hat "cult" followers were right in claiming that North Korea had been taken "hostage" by CIA operatives and now that they've been expelled, Kim Jong Un is free to lead his country. Or maybe it doesn't? It is so easy to be deceived, isn't it? Still, that smile and his relaxed attire give me hope and make me grin.

 
Would be funny if this Qanon is some 15yo swedish guy trolling people. People believe all kinds of crazy stuff it seems :p
You know what'd be even funnier than that? If Q decided to point the Anons attention in a different direction. Like the European Union. The level of indignation would probably start a new ice age. heh heh heh...
 
You know what'd be even funnier than that? If Q decided to point the Anons attention in a different direction. Like the European Union. The level of indignation would probably start a new ice age. heh heh heh...

oh please let that happen. it can be a weird source of entertainment watching crazy people doing their thing.
 
oh please let that happen. it can be a weird source of entertainment watching crazy people doing their thing.

This is a PERFECT example of how truly harmful Main Stream Media's Mocking Bird Agenda is to the world. It keeps folks out of touch with reality.
I don't think you have any idea how amazingly talented and dedicated Anons are. Anons didn't seek Q out. Q went to them for help. Not because Anons are malleable or prone to manipulation, but because they are relentless and extremely effective at working together to gather and disseminate information from open source data. It started with a few thousand on 4chan and jumped to Reddit to accommodate rapid growth in participation. Q made a final move to 8 chan due to security issues. Now there are over a million Anons that actively participate. This isn't a small group of brainwashed basement dwellers.

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@slotplayer I can see why the CNN reporter specifically gave her most of the attention though.


Also, noticed some anons recently decided to edit out the sound on porn vids and replace the sound with 'red pill' voice overs, and upload to porn sites. I've no doubt i'm not the most mature person you'll ever meet, but it was hard not to laugh at seeing a guy drilling away like his life depended on it to the voice of some guy giving a lecture on the soviet union.
 
@slotplayer I can see why the CNN reporter specifically gave her most of the attention though.


Also, noticed some anons recently decided to edit out the sound on porn vids and replace the sound with 'red pill' voice overs, and upload to porn sites. I've no doubt i'm not the most mature person you'll ever meet, but it was hard not to laugh at seeing a guy drilling away like his life depended on it to the voice of some guy giving a lecture on the soviet union.


Bow MAGA bow MAGA bow MAGA bow bow...
 
@slotplayer I can see why the CNN reporter specifically gave her most of the attention though.

They seem more normal than I thought they'd be. Especially when compared to Unite the Right and Antifa.

tbh, the first I heard of the this whole (Q)Anons thing was when Kelly Jo mentioned it a while back.

I liked her red, white and blue umbrella though.
 
This is a PERFECT example of how truly harmful Main Stream Media's Mocking Bird Agenda is to the world. It keeps folks out of touch with reality.
I don't think you have any idea how amazingly talented and dedicated Anons are. Anons didn't seek Q out. Q went to them for help. Not because Anons are malleable or prone to manipulation, but because they are relentless and extremely effective at working together to gather and disseminate information from open source data. It started with a few thousand on 4chan and jumped to Reddit to accommodate rapid growth in participation. Q made a final move to 8 chan due to security issues. Now there are over a million Anons that actively participate. This isn't a small group of brainwashed basement dwellers.

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Anons are a perfect example why your country needs a better basic education system.
 
Actualy, there are some pretty intelligent, creative & intellectual people who populate the anonymous chan boards. Many of them believe Q is full of shite as well and don't follow him like sheep. I lurk sometimes when bored and that's the consensus as far as I've noticed anyway .
The annoniminty aspect naturally attracts insane undesirables, some of which are a sobering eye opener to the levels of depravity humans are capable of, but that is unlikely a result of lacking an education.
They are also from every part of the globe, so i think that's a bit unfair tbh.
 
What is the Trump Agenda?
Bringing industry and jobs back to America? Defeating ISIL? Lowering taxes? Restructuring Health Plans? Getting a handle on illegal immigration? Eradicating human trafficking /organ harvesting and other crimes against humanity? Dismantling the Shadow Government? Rebuilding US Military and Implementing a Space Force?

Can you please post your proof to the above fantasy statements.

- What industry has he brought back? - a few steel mills and a coal mine? :rolleyes:
- What jobs? - On average he has not created more jobs than any other of the recent presidents
- Defeating ISIL? - who are you kidding? ISIL and the Taliban are still alive and kicking. FYI, ISIL was driven from the occupied territories according to an action plan the coalition forces agreed to in 2015, nothing from Mr. T that made an iota difference.

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- What health plans?
- Has illegal immigration reduced significantly?
- Eradicating human trafficking...... ? - what kind of KoolAid made you say that?
- Shadow Government? - another conspiracy theory? :rolleyes: ... FYI, if anything than Mr. T has transformed the swamp into a deep ocean with everyone filling their own pockets, he the most.
- Rebuilding the military? - For the last 6 decades you had the most advanced and largest military. What Mr. T did is throw another $50Billion of borrowed money at it. Money that your kids and grandkids will have to pay back. At the same time he is cutting the education budget. What a genius idea!
- Space Force? - Do you think that is going to do any good when life on earth ceases to exist? :confused:

But yeah, keep having fun with your reality TV presidency where human respect and decency don't exist.
 
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Texts, emails (gmail), drafts (gmail), HAM comms, PS/Xbox chat logs..

JC-BO-CS-LL-#2-NO-SY

Bonus round.

Q

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In this drop, yesterday at 4:55 pm EST. Q lists the types of communications
(Texts, emails (gmail), drafts (gmail), HAM comms, PS/Xbox chat logs)
that have been gathered between this group of individuals:

JC=James Comey
BO=Bruce Orr
CS=Chuck Schumer
LL=Loretta Lynch
#2=Andrew McCabe
NO=Nellie Orr
SY=Sally Yates

Q added a bit of gaming humor at the inclusion of Peter Strzok's Xbox chat logs. lololol!

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Now , if you don't think Q is anything but a conspiracy theory that's fine with me.
If you're a gamer and you found yourself kicked from play at approximately 5:55 pmEST,
(one hour after the Q drop)
I bet you could find a correlation between the Q drop and the almost immediate shut down of X-box live.

Coincidence? Sure it is...


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Can you please post your proof to the above fantasy statements.

- What industry has he brought back? - a few steel mills and a coal mine? :rolleyes:
- What jobs? - On average he has not created more jobs than any other of the recent presidents
- Defeating ISIL? - who are you kidding? ISIL and the Taliban are still alive and kicking. FYI, ISIL was driven from the occupied territories according to an action plan the coalition forces agreed to in 2015, nothing from Mr. T that made an iota difference.

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- What health plans?
- Has illegal immigration reduced significantly?
- Eradicating human trafficking...... ? - what kind of KoolAid made you say that?
- Shadow Government? - another conspiracy theory? :rolleyes: ... FYI, if anything than Mr. T has transformed the swamp into a deep ocean with everyone filling their own pockets, he the most.
- Rebuilding the military? - For the last 6 decades you had the most advanced and largest military. What Mr. T did is throw another $50Billion of borrowed money at it. Money that your kids and grandkids will have to pay back. At the same time he is cutting the education budget. What a genius idea!
- Space Force? - Do you think that is going to do any good when life on earth ceases to exist? :confused:

But yeah, keep having fun with your reality TV presidency where human respect and decency don't exist.

I like you Harry. You always get things fired up.
Just one time though, why don't YOU provide proof?
You rarely do, and even then it's a CNN opinion piece or a similar source..
It's lazy, and you never acknowledge proofs, you just move on and repeat the cycle.
You're the one arguing my talking points.How about YOU do something besides bluster about? You might learn something.
 
Let's stick to the main topic of this forum:D: Trump has signed the National Defence Authorisation Act into law for the mandatory screening of members of the military for gambling addiction. Should this be considered a bad omen for the future legalisation of online gambling (besides sportsbetting) in the US?

Meanwhile, the Department of Defence generates $100m each year from the 3,141 slot machines on overseas bases (slot machines have been banned on domestic military installations though)...:rolleyes:
 
No, people with gambling addictions and access to military grade weaponry are not a good mix.
Let's stick to the main topic of this forum:D: Trump has signed the National Defence Authorisation Act into law for the mandatory screening of members of the military for gambling addiction. Should this be considered a bad omen for the future legalisation of online gambling (besides sportsbetting) in the US?

Meanwhile, the Department of Defence generates $100m each year from the 3,141 slot machines on overseas bases (slot machines have been banned on domestic military installations though)...:rolleyes:


The DoD generates $100 million each year from the 3,141 slot machines on overseas bases. Slot machines have been outlawed on domestic military installations since 1951. The National Council on Problem Gambling estimates that as many as 56,000 active duty members of the Armed Forces meet criteria for gambling disorder.

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56,000 of how many active duty members?

So, if this is so, why is the DoD still exploiting slot machines on overseas bases?

193,442 active overseas, 1.3 million active overall.
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I saw a news story on it some time ago but don't remember any details.

I guess the slots been there a while though. They should replace them with pinball machines.

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Bottom line: yes, military staff should be screened but let's keep the slots because money rules.

The ones with the highest stakes (power) will determine whether online gambling will be legalised and I suspect this will not happen during Trump's term. The land based casino lobby is too powerful and I am not sure where T's interests lie in all of this.
 
Trump has signed the National Defence Authorisation Act into law for the mandatory screening of members of the military for gambling addiction. Should this be considered a bad omen for the future legalisation of online gambling (besides sportsbetting) in the US?

Impeach that bat-rastard!
 
And according to the UN North Korea has continued with its nuclear program.

And in other news, Manafort found guilty on 8 counts.

Michael Cohen pleads guilty and implicates president.

How are you all doing?

And the so called witch hunt is not over.

Don't you have a strange plea bargaining system in the US, where nearly everyone up on a charge pleads guilty to get a softer sentence rather than risk a trial and a harsher sentence?
 
And according to the UN North Korea has continued with its nuclear program.

And in other news, Manafort found guilty on 8 counts.

Michael Cohen pleads guilty and implicates president.

How are you all doing?

And the so called witch hunt is not over.

Plus
- Ford and GM issueing profit warnings because of Mr. T's tariffs.
- The public hearings for the next round of tariffs have been extended to a week because so many want to speak out their objections
- More tariffs being thrown around, e.g. Turkey
- The EPA rolling back the Clean Power Act
- Deficit at its highest
- Public lending at its highest
- Trade deficit with China still growing
- Still no "beautiful" Middle East peace plan from sunnyboy Jared
- Still no proposal what to do with Iran other than imposing the same sanctions again
- ISIS and the Taliban on the rise again
- CFPB reduced to a mere bystander
- List by far not complete

And Mr. T is planning another 40 days of campaigning until the midterms where he can lie through his teeth and the crowds will love him for that. Question is when is he planning to be president? :rolleyes:

EDIT: Read this gem from Cohen's guilty plea: "violated campaign finance laws in coordination and at the direction of a candidate for federal office,".

Mr. T knew nothing about it eh? :rolleyes:
 
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And according to the UN North Korea has continued with its nuclear program.

And in other news, Manafort found guilty on 8 counts.

Michael Cohen pleads guilty and implicates president.

How are you all doing?

And the so called witch hunt is not over.

What were the charges and when did the crimes occur?
 
Don't you have a strange plea bargaining system in the US, where nearly everyone up on a charge pleads guilty to get a softer sentence rather than risk a trial and a harsher sentence?

Beating a federal indictment in the United States is very rare and defendants are threatened in a multitude of unethical and unconstitutional ways. Remember what happened to Billy Dale (Travel office Director) when Bill & Hillary moved in to the White House? He almost pled guilty because his family was being threatened. Similar situation with Gen. Flynn. 95% of cases are settled via Plea Bargaining because the threats are real.

"Prosecutorial discretion also has resulted in harsher penalties for those defendants who opt for going to trial, rather than accepting a plea. Many researchers have found that those who go to trial are more likely to receive harsher sentences than those who accept a plea when comparable offenses are considered."
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Beating a federal indictment in the United States is very rare and defendants are threatened in a multitude of unethical and unconstitutional ways. Remember what happened to Billy Dale (Travel office Director) when Bill & Hillary moved in to the White House? He almost pled guilty because his family was being threatened. Similar situation with Gen. Flynn. 95% of cases are settled via Plea Bargaining because the threats are real.

"Prosecutorial discretion also has resulted in harsher penalties for those defendants who opt for going to trial, rather than accepting a plea. Many researchers have found that those who go to trial are more likely to receive harsher sentences than those who accept a plea when comparable offenses are considered."
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on the one hand for trivial cases it makes sense to keep costs down by avoiding expensive trials, but is misused in bigger complex cases and is another weapon in the deep state's armoury to manipulate politics and keep power, you can't bump off or make disappear everyone who is a thorn in your side, but using the criminal law that you control can just be as effective.
 
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