North Korea and US politics

[vorcirion]

A devils advocate question. How many people from what Ben groups he supports and how many from what vorciron refuses to condemn have resulted on killing the most? Who's have ruined the most state buildings? Who's have burned down and ruined the most businesses and Cities?
Just for clarity

So you're supporting white supremacy too just like Ben?

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[Steviedoo]

Really Steviedoo. What do you mean by read the room?

there were a lot of people on capital hill. Those people represent a lot of Americans who couldn’t be there in person. The Dems are condemning them but that’s to be expected. But the republicans are condemning them too. These people are abandoning the republicans in droves

these people truly believe every word Trump has said about the elections without a shred a proof.

these people will be the foundation of this new party.

they will call it the patriot party. The maga party.

 

[geordiecolin]

So you're supporting white supremacy too just like Ben?

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I asked a question. You just provided a link to a possible threat from about 7 months ago that was at best speculative.
Any evidence of that threat happening and any chance of you providing an answer to the question that I asked?

 

[mack341]

Common sense and traditional family values will/must prevail in the long run, otherwise the US, or any other country, will become a poverty/crime ridden hellhole, a deranged failed state in most areas other than the affluent and guarded ones.

Although I don't like the PC mad, censoring everyone, democrats, I'm still looking forward to see what direction Joe heads in, the big decisions, and things like his new 'healthcare system for all' which he has promised.

 

[geordiecolin]

there were a lot of people on capital hill. Those people represent a lot of Americans who couldn’t be there in person. The Dems are condemning them but that’s to be expected. But the republicans are condemning them too. These people are abandoning the republicans in droves

these people truly believe every word Trump has said about the elections without a shred a proof.

these people will be the foundation of this new party.

they will call it the patriot party. The maga party.

That does not even touch on "read the room"

 

[vorcirion]

Common sense and traditional family values will/must prevail in the long run, otherwise the US, or any other country, will become a poverty/crime ridden hellhole, a deranged failed state in most areas other than the affluent and guarded ones.

Although I don't like the PC mad, censoring everyone, democrats, I'm still looking forward to see what direction Joe heads in, the big decisions, and things like his new 'healthcare system for all' which he has promised.

Traditional family values...lol! Yeah women go back to kitchen while your man goes to work!
I'll be happy when this caveman ideology dies asap. You belong to the past. Your side has abandoned common sense long time ago.

 

[Playford7]

You know very well what I think about supporters of Proud Boys.
But why are you supporting them?

I’m all for the values that they hold, can’t be any more honest than that.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I asked a question. You just provided a link to a possible threat from about 7 months ago that was at best speculative.
Any evidence of that threat happening and any chance of you providing an answer to the question that I asked?

I suppose you have seen the news last week when domestic terrorists stormed Capitol Hill?

 

[Playford7]

Really Steviedoo. What do you mean by read the room?

Possibly the room is biased and backed by certain mods.

certain opinions can’t be held as others disagree.

the ‘room’ of late at CM is a pretty shitty one to be in.

 

[vorcirion]

Possibly the room is biased and backed by certain mods.

certain opinions can’t be held as others disagree.

the ‘room’ of late at CM is a pretty shitty one to be in.

Feel free to leave. Then we have less racism here.

 

[Playford7]

Traditional family values...lol! Yeah women go back to kitchen while your man goes to work!
I'll be happy when this caveman ideology dies asap. You belong to the past. Your side has abandoned common sense long time ago.

Where the fuck did @mack341 say that?

and who are you to choose what’s common sense or not?

and sides? Nobody is on a side...

It’s a opinion..

Just curious, what you working as at the moment?..

full time troll must be decent price work I’m guessing pal...

 

[Playford7]

Feel free to leave. Then we have less racism here.

Going nowhere darling, someone needs to keep the balance.

 

[vorcirion]

Going nowhere darling, someone needs to keep the balance.

Great. BLM supporters and racists. Gonna be a fun party here.

 

[geordiecolin]

Common sense and traditional family values will/must prevail in the long run, otherwise the US, or any other country, will become a poverty/crime ridden hellhole, a deranged failed state in most areas other than the affluent and guarded ones.

Although I don't like the PC mad, censoring everyone, democrats, I'm still looking forward to see what direction Joe heads in, the big decisions, and things like his new 'healthcare system for all' which he has promised.

A Biden/Clinton government scares me. What we see going on with their really vindictive agenda towards not just Trump but his supporters is truly scary because they have not even got their hands on power yet.
The Clinton's financed Harris from the off. She got about 5% of the vote in the run off. Yet she is in line to take over at any point. They are all puppets to the system and both sides are fully signed up puppets to that system.
I think that the only hope is that a new third party will come from that. But I also think that it is too late. We can see that with how high tech are running everything

 

[Playford7]

Great. BLM supporters and racists. Gonna be a fun party here.

Only in your own mind.

also what you work as my good friend?

 

[geordiecolin]

Possibly the room is biased and backed by certain mods.

certain opinions can’t be held as others disagree.

the ‘room’ of late at CM is a pretty shitty one to be in.

I avoid any emotional investment in here while posting Ben while I still love the site and what it is here for.
You may think that but I could not possibly comment

 

[colinsunderland]

Great. BLM supporters and racists. Gonna be a fun party here.

You're coming across as a bit of a dick here like, implying other members are racist. Any proof of that apart from they don't agree with your views?

 

[vorcirion]

You're coming across as a bit of a dick here like, implying other members are racist. Any proof of that apart from they don't agree with your views?

He proudly supports Proud Boys. That's enough for me.

 

[geordiecolin]

Traditional family values...lol! Yeah women go back to kitchen while your man goes to work!
I'll be happy when this caveman ideology dies asap. You belong to the past. Your side has abandoned common sense long time ago.

You are way too fond of jumping to your own conclusions without an iota of evidence to support your statements.
I think that there is room in here for adult conversation

 

[colinsunderland]

He proudly supports Proud Boys. That's enough for me.

So no then?

 

[vorcirion]

So no then?

Hmm there seem to be many people here who don't seem bothered by Proud Boys. What do you think of that group?

 

[colinsunderland]

Hmm there seem to be many people here who don't seem bothered by Proud Boys. What do you think of that group?

Why?
I'm not a racist if thats what you are implying?

 

[geordiecolin]

I am almost sorry that I introduced a talking point.I would of liked to have done it from time to time to encourage convo. I will go back to my shell unless the topic of a third party wants to be touched on again without personal insults,claims or abuse

 

[mack341]

Traditional family values...lol! Yeah women go back to kitchen while your man goes to work!
I'll be happy when this caveman ideology dies asap. You belong to the past. Your side has abandoned common sense long time ago.

You have no idea how many women are unhappy with having to put a career before motherhood, it's become a financial necessity rather than choice in most prosperous countries, otherwise there is no chance of paying the bills or housing costs.

Nature will always win, nothing is stronger than the maternal instinct/drive, and there can be a better balance/focus between that and careers in modern life.

It is common sense, my friend, not caveman ideology, traditional conjures up something for you that you don't like, and yet I'd imagine a lot of finland's quality of life stems from having a conservative core/ approach to life, being sensible and responsible.

 

[vorcirion]

Why?
I'm not a racist if thats what you are implying?

So why not tell me what you think about that group? I'm interested in your opinion. I'm not implying that...but imo should be obvious that if you support Proud Boys then you are a racist.

 

[Playford7]

So why not tell me what you think about that group? I'm interested in your opinion. I'm not implying that...but imo should be obvious that if you support Proud Boys then you are a racist.

Where did he say he supported them?

you have a issue understanding and answering people sunshine.

 

[vorcirion]

Where did he say he supported them?

you have a issue understanding and answering people sunshine.

I wasn't saying that he supports them. The person who supports them is a racist. He never said he supports them. I'm just asking his opinion of that group. It's weird how people start defending Proud Boys' supporters.

 

[colinsunderland]

So why not tell me what you think about that group? I'm interested in your opinion. I'm not implying that...but imo should be obvious that if you support Proud Boys then you are a racist.

I honestly don't know anything about them, but I can say I can't remember any of the members you are aiming your comments at posting anything that could be seen as slightly racist.

 

[vorcirion]

I honestly don't know anything about them, but I can say I can't remember any of the members you are aiming your comments at posting anything that could be seen as slightly racist.

Maybe you should learn about them before you start commenting then.

 

[colinsunderland]

I wasn't saying that he supports them. The person who supports them is a racist. He never said he supports them. I'm just asking his opinion of that group. It's weird how people start defending Proud Boys' supporters.

You think it's weird I support members who are getting a tirade of abuse from someone else? If I saw someone having a go at you without any reason, then I would say something then too.

 

[colinsunderland]

Maybe you should learn about them before you start commenting then.

What the members? I know enough about them to know they aren't racist. What else should I learn? I can PM them and ask for their shoe size, or what colour coat they wear, not sure how that would help though. Any questions you would like me to ask them?

 

[vorcirion]

You think it's weird I support members who are getting a tirade of abuse from someone else? If I saw someone having a go at you without any reason, then I would say something then too.

My reason is that Ben is a supporter of Proud Boys. Bryan himself said that the group in question is white supremacy group. Go learn stuff before you comment please.

 

[colinsunderland]

My reason is that Ben is a supporter of Proud Boys. Bryan himself said that the group in question is white supremacy group. Go learn stuff before you comment please.

And that means you can start being abusive towards him? How about you go and read the forum rules before doing that?

1.1 - No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest. Abusive behavior will not be tolerated and your account may be suspended.

 

[vorcirion]

You have no idea how many women are unhappy with having to put a career before motherhood, it's become a financial necessity rather than choice in most prosperous countries, otherwise there is no chance of paying the bills or housing costs.

Nature will always win, nothing is stronger than the maternal instinct/drive, and there can be a better balance/focus between that and careers in modern life.

It is common sense, my friend, not caveman ideology, traditional conjures up something for you that you don't like, and yet I'd imagine a lot of finland's quality of life stems from having a conservative core/ approach to life, being sensible and responsible.

This is one of the most liberal countries there are. Being sensible and responsible just comes to us naturally.
Your country is quite conservative. That's why Tories has been in power for quite long. Hasn't helped much. Your country is a complete mess atm. I guess those conservative values don't work.

 

[vorcirion]

And that means you can start being abusive towards him? How about you go and read the forum rules before doing that?

1.1 - No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest. Abusive behavior will not be tolerated and your account may be suspended.

Oh I did get that warning already. Saying that he's a racist isn't being abusive towards him since he openly supports Proud Boys. But feel free to report me if you feel like I stepped over the line

 

[mack341]

A Biden/Clinton government scares me. What we see going on with their really vindictive agenda towards not just Trump but his supporters is truly scary because they have not even got their hands on power yet.
The Clinton's financed Harris from the off. She got about 5% of the vote in the run off. Yet she is in line to take over at any point. They are all puppets to the system and both sides are fully signed up puppets to that system.
I think that the only hope is that a new third party will come from that. But I also think that it is too late. We can see that with how high tech are running everything

I am a bit worried too, half expecting some sort of military operation as Biden strikes me as that kind of politician to threaten and issue ultimatums, most of his base probably don't care as long as he maintains the PC and identity politics, the virtue signalling, but some poor citizen somewhere in the world will end up being bombed.

I think a new party may emerge or the republicans will be forced to have a clean out of rinos and 'wanna be' democrats, at some point they need trump's base or they risk losing too many senate seats and possibly then a bernie sanders type takes power. [speculating here, but can the republican establishment attract anywhere near 74 million, romney got about 61 in 2012 when barack got nearly 66]

 

[mack341]

This is one of the most liberal countries there are. Being sensible and responsible just comes to us naturally.
Your country is quite conservative. That's why Tories has been in power for quite long. Hasn't helped much. Your country is a complete mess atm. I guess those conservative values don't work.

Our country votes conservative but the govt doesn't govern conservatively, crony capitalism, social problems flourish here. The importance of the 'family' institution has been under attack for decades, regardless of party in power.

 

[vorcirion]

I am a bit worried too, half expecting some sort of military operation as Biden strikes me as that kind of politician to threaten and issue ultimatums, most of his base don't care as long as he maintains the PC and identity politics, the virtue signalling, but some poor citizen somewhere in the world will end up being bombed.

I think a new party may emerge or the republicans will be forced to have a clean out of rinos and 'wanna be' democrats, at some point they need trump's base or they risk losing too many senate seats and possibly then a bernie sanders type takes power.

Republicans needing anti-democratic terrorists? How about republicans need to remove all those extremists who don't even believe in democracy. Then they might have a chance with more common people. Relying on extrimists isn't a good option. US is changing rapidly. There will be more people of color. Republicans won't have a chance if they don't change.

 

[Playford7]

My reason is that Ben is a supporter of Proud Boys. Bryan himself said that the group in question is white supremacy group. Go learn stuff before you comment please.

Iam.
And it’s Bryan’s house and I respect that hence I’ve kept my political views pretty quite.

also keep accusing me of being racist...

 

[geordiecolin]

I am a bit worried too, half expecting some sort of military operation as Biden strikes me as that kind of politician to threaten and issue ultimatums, most of his base don't care as long as he maintains the PC and identity politics, the virtue signalling, but some poor citizen somewhere in the world will end up being bombed.

I think a new party may emerge or the republicans will be forced to have a clean out of rinos and 'wanna be' democrats, at some point they need trump's base or they risk losing too many senate seats and possibly then a bernie sanders type takes power.

I am just happy to see things play out then watch the aftermath. This forum will have no effect on what will happen so we better get used to it and get along regardless

 

[Playford7]

I am just happy to see things play out then watch the aftermath. This forum will have no effect on what will happen so we better get used to it and get along regardless

I love everyone mate, a stud like me can’t help but love.

 

[geordiecolin]

I love everyone mate, a stud like me can’t help but love.

What a fucking horrible thought. Keep it to your online love you long time video contacts keeping you awake bud. You utter filthy bugger!

 

[pinnit2014]

Hmm there seem to be many people here who don't seem bothered by Proud Boys. What do you think of that group?

Not as good as the YMCA

FFS too much Gin - the Village people: i'll go back into my dungeon

 

[geordiecolin]

Not as good as the YMCA

FFS too much Gin - the Village people: i'll go back into my dungeon

Very very very sadly at my tender age I had girls in my class that adored one of those guys and I had pangs of jealousy.
It had also effected my life since!

 

[Playford7]

Not as good as the YMCA

FFS too much Gin - the Village people: i'll go back into my dungeon

Fine band, many a good tune.

 

[geordiecolin]

Fine band, many a good tune.

I see where your suppressed issues stem from big boy.
PM me you brute

 

[mack341]

Republicans needing anti-democratic terrorists? How about republicans need to remove all those extremists who don't even believe in democracy. Then they might have a chance with more common people. Relying on extrimists isn't a good option. US is changing rapidly. There will be more people of color. Republicans won't have a chance if they don't change.

Trump won 74 milliion votes, how many entered congress, a couple of hundred? It was a protest that got out of hand, if they were anti-democratic terrorists as you put it, rather than disgruntled trump fans, surely they would have torched the place?

 

[pinnit2014]

Fine band, many a good tune.

I hear Ternur's a fan as well - hides behind that white noise he listens to currently

 

[Playford7]

Fine band, many a good tune.

Village people?..

 

[Playford7]

I see where your suppressed issues stem from big boy.
PM me you brute

Check out my latest post sweet cheeks ;-)