North Korea and US politics

[mack341]

sorry I didn't answer the christian bit, they're meant to follow a moral code with truth an essential part I'd have thought, but if they refused to even look at an allegation in detail how can they say they have judged it and know the truth of it. Again just my view.

 

[Playford7]

sorry I didn't answer the christian bit, they're meant to follow a moral code with truth an essential part I'd have thought, but if they refused to even look at an allegation in detail how can they say they have judged it and know the truth of it. Again just my view.

I’m Christian mate.

been baptised also, I’m a firm believer.

don’t spout it here as don’t believe in pushing personal beliefs, especially not religion on others.

you won’t see a single post where I’ve attempted it anywhere on here.

should anyone want a discussion I’m very well read on the subject.

 

[geordiecolin]

There does not seem to have been any qualifying siting evidence from those who stood up to talk in the house. There was no hearing in order for the house to make an informed evaluation and no evidence offered up to the public to justify an impeachment.
That is democracy 2021

 

[geordiecolin]

It seems that Trump has just issued an executive order that will piss of all of those on both sides who are in the pockets of the Chinese. No wonder they wanted Trumps powers taken away at the start of the week

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[geordiecolin]

Here is the order and what it effects for clarity

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[Kroffe]

I think its crazy how much power the President in USA has.
Its the kind of power kings had back in the days.
We have a king here in Sweden, but hes nothing more than figurehead.

This as an example.
"Only the president can direct the use of

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by U.S. armed forces, through plans like

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8010-12. The president has unilateral authority as commander-in-chief to order that nuclear weapons be used for any reason at any time"

Im not saying Trump would issue an order for a nuclear attack, but imo hes waaay to impulsive to have the kind of power he has.
And now they are swapping him for someone who probably wont remember he is the president by this time next year.

Whats wrong with having people in power that not at the same time has one foot in the grave.
Maybe if the people in power would actually live long enough to see consequences of their actions, they wouldnt be so quick to make shitty decisions.
Things that will have a big effect on the planet itself in 30-50 years are being decided by people who wont live another 10-15 years.

Leave my nature alone, old people.

The worst part is that im also getting older, and soon i will be old people.

 

[geordiecolin]

I think its crazy how much power the President in USA has.
Its the kind of power kings had back in the days.
We have a king here in Sweden, but hes nothing more than figurehead.

This as an example.
"Only the president can direct the use of

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by U.S. armed forces, through plans like

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8010-12. The president has unilateral authority as commander-in-chief to order that nuclear weapons be used for any reason at any time"

Im not saying Trump would issue an order for a nuclear attack, but imo hes waaay to impulsive to have the kind of power he has.
And now they are swapping him for someone who probably wont remember he is the president by this time next year.

Whats wrong with having people in power that not at the same time has one foot in the grave.
Maybe if the people in power would actually live long enough to see consequences of their actions, they wouldnt be so quick to make shitty decisions.
Things that will have a big effect on the planet itself in 30-50 years are being decided by people who wont live another 10-15 years.

Leave my nature alone, old people.
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The worst part is that im also getting older, and soon i will be old people

The fact is that Trump has caused no wars while in office and that he has brokered peace accords in a number of places in his 4 years in power and brought most American servicemen home so I doubt that there is much evidence that he would push the button. Can we be confident that Biden will have such a record in 4 years time?
And it seems that Biden will have impeachment papers served on him on his first day of power for "abusing his position of power by being bought off by foreign governments".
I guess its a hard knock life being president of the USA?

 

[Kroffe]

The fact is that Trump has caused no wars while in office and that he has brokered peace accords in a number of places in his 4 years in power and brought most American servicemen home so I doubt that there is much evidence that he would push the button. Can we be confident that Biden will have such a record in 4 years time?
And it seems that Biden will have impeachment papers served on him on his first day of power for "abusing his position of power by being bought off by foreign governments".
I guess its a hard knock life being president of the USA?

He may have caused no new ones, but its not like Usa has been all that peaceful under him.

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But its not so much about who has the power, its more that i think no single person should have that much power.
I think its an archaic kind of rule, like i mentioned with kings&queens.
And its not just the ability to start a war on a whim, the President of USA has the power to do alot of things.

 

[geordiecolin]

He may have caused no new ones, but its not like Usa has been all that peaceful under him.

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But its not so much about who has the power, its more that i think no single person should have that much power.
I think its an archaic kind of rule, like i mentioned with kings&queens.
And its not just the ability to start a war on a whim, the President of USA has the power to do alot of things.

I totally agree regarding having the finger on the button but I was sure that they have to go through a few hoops before that button could even send out a drone?
Would the above declining scale have continued if Hillary had got into power what with NK, Syria et al looming?

 

[Kroffe]

I totally agree regarding having the finger on the button but I was sure that they have to go through a few hoops before that button could even send out a drone?
Would the above declining scale have continued in Hillary had got into power what with NK, Syria et al looming?

No idea,

Imo the military in USA could be scaled back a bit.
Doubt it will happen unless china,russia etc do the same.

I think i read somewhere that the US military is the worlds largest employer, which is kind of sad in alot of ways.
People need more Neil Young in their lives.

 

[geordiecolin]

No idea,

Imo the military in USA could be scaled back a bit.
Doubt it will happen unless china,russia etc do the same.

I think i read somewhere that the US military is the worlds largest employer, which is kind of sad in alot of ways.
People need more Neil Young in their lives.

I am unsure how the worlds largest employer is calculated but in terms of military China outdoes both America and Russia by 2-1.
I think that most of the Chinese military are deployed in their own country fucking over their own people

 

[Slottery]

Don't really get that people really would be so worried about Mr Trump using nukes, where would he start to shoot them, California? Georgia?

Of course he have control of them, but these still are not used if country is not in danger, in real life there is nobody to press that button if he just decide that would be good idea to nuke some country while having his morming shite, country need to be under severe threat to make any nukes shot by anyone, it's not like he have extension to do that in his Twitter (or some other thing now as he got banned from there).

It's bit overreacting and part of politic game to any democrats like Pelosi be worried about it, for sure she really is not.

 

[datch]

Don't really get that people really would be so worried about Mr Trump using nukes, where would he start to shoot them, California? Georgia?

Of course he have control of them, but these still are not used if country is not in danger, in real life there is nobody to press that button if he just decide that would be good idea to nuke some country while having his morming shite, country need to be under severe threat to make any nukes shot by anyone, it's not like he have extension to do that in his Twitter (or some other thing now as he got banned from there).

It's bit overreacting and part of politic game to any democrats like Pelosi be worried about it, for sure she really is not.

The same goes for US-nukes that are in Germany. We have the last say if they would be used or not as it would be carried by our planes and actually dropped by german soldiers. There is no way the Bundeswehr would do it if it was unjustified, eg a "good-morning-shit-idea" by trump.

 

[Kroffe]

I dont think anyone is really worried about something like that happening.
I just used it as an example of the power the president wields, probably a bad example.
But my point was that i think its an old outdated system, with too much power entrusted to one person.

 

[geordiecolin]

I dont think anyone is really worried about something like that happening.
I just used it as an example of the power the president wields, probably a bad example.
But my point was that i think its an old outdated system, with too much power entrusted to one person.

I'm sure that there is a protocol that has to be adhered too which includes military intervention and that there is more than one button to be pressed so it really is not down to one persons bad morning toilet visit

 

[Slottery]

I dont think anyone is really worried about something like that happening.
I just used it as an example of the power the president wields, probably a bad example.
But my point was that i think its an old outdated system, with too much power entrusted to one person.

Some quite high politician still keep mentioning it which can't taken much more than BS. Didn't really refer to you but these US politics who actually are worried about Mr T gonna take over whole world within his last weeks, even though he is not capable to do much without somebody support which start to be non existent

 

[Kroffe]

I'm sure that there is a protocol that has to be adhered too which includes military intervention and that there is more than one button to be pressed so it really is not down to one persons bad morning toilet visit

Wait...are you telling me there is not a button like this on the Presidents desk?

 

[datch]

Wait...are you telling me there is not a button like this on the Presidents desk?


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It's said that there is always an officer with the codes and protocols near the president

 

[Borgie]

Wait...are you telling me there is not a button like this on the Presidents desk?


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If he still had twitter he probably would have tweeted the codes and knowing him he thinks the red button is to summon his afternoon tea.

 

[geordiecolin]

Wait...are you telling me there is not a button like this on the Presidents desk?


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I think that is his Lunch code to the kitchens Kroffe

 

[geordiecolin]

It's said that there is always an officer with the codes and protocols near the president
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He also has a gun and is not afraid to use it :sniper:

 

[Kroffe]

Alright, thats quite enough politics.
Back to sausages.

For some weird reason, my recommended section on youtube keeps having sausage videos in it, and yesterday i looked at this one.
Anyone tried it? I think it sounds great, but have never tried it.
Perhaps @datch can weigh in with an expert opinion on this?

 

[geordiecolin]

Alright, thats quite enough politics.
Back to sausages.

For some weird reason, my recommended section on youtube keeps having sausage videos in it, and yesterday i looked at this one.
Anyone tried it? I think it sounds great, but have never tried it.
Perhaps @datch can weigh in with an expert opinion on this?

Reminds me of Caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland having a snooze!

 

[The Dude]

Possibly the room is biased and backed by certain mods.

certain opinions can’t be held as others disagree.

the ‘room’ of late at CM is a pretty shitty one to be in.

Really? I have mentioned time and time again that the people moderating this forum - which is really Max, Dunover and me - and rarely if ever do we look at this thread. We only get involved when there are posts reported - and maybe a comment here and there. It is YOU the membership that are running with the ball here.

As long as people maintain a certain amount of respect towards each other and abide by our posting rules, then we are cool. Sometimes it is hard to tell when folks are joking, sometimes not. But the bottom line is that in a political rant type thread - which this is - we must maintain civility. This is a highly mixed group here - so keep that in mind.

If you - as in anyone reading this - have opinions that are fringe or maybe offensive to normal folks - by all means purchase your own domain name at namecheap for $20 and get a cheap hosting package and knock yourself out with rant-o-rama.

 

[mcgameboy]

Alright, thats quite enough politics.
Back to sausages.

For some weird reason, my recommended section on youtube keeps having sausage videos in it, and yesterday i looked at this one.
Anyone tried it? I think it sounds great, but have never tried it.
Perhaps @datch can weigh in with an expert opinion on this?

A sausage production manager called Koch

 

[datch]

Alright, thats quite enough politics.
Back to sausages.

For some weird reason, my recommended section on youtube keeps having sausage videos in it, and yesterday i looked at this one.
Anyone tried it? I think it sounds great, but have never tried it.
Perhaps @datch can weigh in with an expert opinion on this?

Indeed we love our Currywurst! It's great, you should try it. I am from Frankfurt, we eat the Currywurst a little different than our (ugly) friends from Berlin, we use our local Rindswurst instead of the regular Bratwurst.
Die schönste Sauerei der Welt

 

[pinnit2014]

Indeed we love our Currywurst! It's great, you should try it. I am from Frankfurt, we eat the Currywurst a little different than our (ugly) friends from Berlin, we use our local Rindswurst instead of the regular Bratwurst.
Die schönste Sauerei der Welt
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I find it dangerous when over there on holiday: obviously tend to walk a bit so stop and get one...walk....get one....by the time the sun is setting the stomach starts to churn on number 5

yum.

 

[geordiecolin]

The video was very quickly zapped by google everywhere but no doubt that it was saved to be used at will

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[Playford7]

I find it dangerous when over there on holiday: obviously tend to walk a bit so stop and get one...walk....get one....by the time the sun is setting the stomach starts to churn on number 5

yum.

Dangerous in Berlin? Always fancied a visit there tbh, not been to Germany.. probably the only European country I’ve not been too.

well proper country, unlike Belgium.

 

[geordiecolin]

The video is now working. How can that be defended by anyone that has supported BLM or Antifa? And there has been an Impeachment of Trump without any presentation of evidence? It took over 30 days to impeach Clinton. 8 hours to impeach Trump.
It is all just political bullshit.
Anyone?
One more point. My daughters are black and for over 4 years I have defended Trump on some points and we disagreed to the point that I never mention Trump. Yet I have never been any fan of any party

 

[Playford7]

The video is now working. How can that be defended by anyone that has supported BLM or Antifa? And there has been an Impeachment of Trump without any presentation of evidence? It took over 30 days to impeach Clinton. 8 hours to impeach Trump.
It is all just political bullshit.
Anyone?

Because mate certain members here are the most biased and intolerant humans I’ve ever came across.

yet they preach the opposite, many of them now silenced due to how they conducted themselves and got away with it for months and months.

it was very wrong.

the treatment of @mack341 was a disgrace, yet totally ignored.

he replies like a gentleman 110% of the time to anyone, and he’s held his dignity (as id expect for a man of his stature) through some of the most abhorrent abuse.

myself I’m laden with abuse as my opinion some don’t like, sadly I’m used to it and have broad shoulders.

shame we can’t all just say our peace and get on with it rather than the abuse and fake accusations.

im just here now to be cool, post my shitty food, show my fatty dog (when home) and enjoy the decent members that’s kept me here for years.

 

[geordiecolin]

Because mate certain members here are the most biased and intolerant humans I’ve ever came across.

yet they preach the opposite, many of them now silenced due to how they conducted themselves and got away with it for months and months.

it was very wrong.

the treatment of @mack341 was a disgrace, yet totally ignored.

he replies like a gentleman 110% of the time to anyone, and he’s held his dignity (as id expect for a man of his stature) through some of the most abhorrent abuse.

myself I’m laden with abuse as my opinion some don’t like, sadly I’m used to it and have broad shoulders.

shame we can’t all just say our peace and get on with it rather than the abuse and fake accusations.

im just here now to be cool, post my shitty food, show my fatty dog (when home) and enjoy the decent members that’s kept me here for years.

Being personal is not good Ben. Especially in a relatively quiet site where non casino related things are concerned. We have no idea if folk have been quiet lately due to shock at the recent developments or if they are simply quiet because their goal has been achieved or whatever.
I am an uttery independent which I would guess has been born out for a very long time in this forum. I can be headstrong and wrong sometimes in how I express myself during a conflict but I have tried and will continue to step back from anything personal.

 

[mack341]

The video is now working. How can that be defended by anyone that has supported BLM or Antifa? And there has been an Impeachment of Trump without any presentation of evidence? It took over 30 days to impeach Clinton. 8 hours to impeach Trump.
It is all just political bullshit.
Anyone?
One more point. My daughters are black and for over 4 years I have defended Trump on some points and we disagreed to the point that I never mention Trump. Yet I have never been any fan of any party

I objected to the hysterical criticism of donald, I've found some fault with every uk/us leader in the last 30 odd years - inluding trump. I just don't think the attacks on him matched up to the wrong doing on the level required [ that was justified ]

I've argued with family members over him, and thought later 'is trump worth falling out over' but it was normally arguments generated by blatant bias and propaganda coming out of a TV set, seeing people you care for getting sucked into an almost orwellian, 1984 style, two minute hate chant.

 

[vorcirion]

Because mate certain members here are the most biased and intolerant humans I’ve ever came across.

yet they preach the opposite, many of them now silenced due to how they conducted themselves and got away with it for months and months.

it was very wrong.

the treatment of @mack341 was a disgrace, yet totally ignored.

he replies like a gentleman 110% of the time to anyone, and he’s held his dignity (as id expect for a man of his stature) through some of the most abhorrent abuse.

myself I’m laden with abuse as my opinion some don’t like, sadly I’m used to it and have broad shoulders.

shame we can’t all just say our peace and get on with it rather than the abuse and fake accusations.

im just here now to be cool, post my shitty food, show my fatty dog (when home) and enjoy the decent members that’s kept me here for years.

Maybe when you stop supporting white supremacy groups and mack stops posting conspiracies or other lies. I don't know why I should treat something like as normal. It's not. White supremacy stuff is disgusting. And constant lies and conspiracies will divide nations as can be seen in the US.

 

[geordiecolin]

I objected to the hysterical criticism of donald, I've found some fault with every uk/us leader in the last 30 odd years - inluding trump. I don't think the attacks on him matched up to the wrong doing on the level required [ that was justified]

I've argued with family members over him, and thought later 'is trump worth falling out over' but it was normally arguments generated by blatant bias and propaganda coming out of a TV set, seeing people you care for getting sucked into an almost orwellian 1984 style two minute hate chant.

I just wonder how most Americans see it? We see precious few opinions from Americans in this thread as I have pointed out many times. Is it because Casinomeister is so obviously so heavily bias from the admin and owner?

 

[Playford7]

Being personal is not good Ben. Especially in relatively quiet site for non casino related things are concerned. We have no idea if folk have been quiet lately due to shock at the recent developments or if they are simply quiet because their goal has been achieved or whatever.
I am an uttery independent which I would guess has been born out for a very long time in this forum. I can be headstrong and wrong sometimes in how I express myself during a conflict but I have tried and will continue to step back from anything personal.

Fair and decent point mate that, but this corona nonsense has effected us all.

it gives nobody a free pass to assume they can call and abuse others.

and this was about before Covid.

im not wanting a further discussion on this as it’s not worth it (not my hard fought for membership)

I like this place and the people and reps I’ve met and some now I class as personal friends, you included.

should be in bed but this awful meeting tomoz is playing on my mind, also I’ll probs be stuck in manchester the weekend sorting it out...

 

[geordiecolin]

I objected to the hysterical criticism of donald, I've found some fault with every uk/us leader in the last 30 odd years - inluding trump. I just don't think the attacks on him matched up to the wrong doing on the level required [ that was justified ]

I've argued with family members over him, and thought later 'is trump worth falling out over' but it was normally arguments generated by blatant bias and propaganda coming out of a TV set, seeing people you care for getting sucked into an almost orwellian, 1984 style, two minute hate chant.

Mine where directly related to race and them being black Mack mate. If he was such a racist then the black vote from the last election would not have gone up

 

[Playford7]

Maybe when you stop supporting white supremacy groups and mack stops posting conspiracies or other lies. I don't know why I should treat something like as normal. It's not. White supremacy stuff is disgusting. And constant lies and conspiracies will divide nations as can be seen in the US.

Why? It’s always you..

this is your opinion.. it’s not fact.

look I’m busy, I’ve a daughter and a job.

im not sure how you fill your time but this isn’t healthy, your goading and flaming is like water off a ducks back now, it’s irrelevant.

ive not reported you once for the abuse you give me, I have a opinion... that’s it..

im no monster...

your also nowhere near the US nor have links to the place so I’m at a loss your outrage at opinions that don’t affect nor concern you.

your attitude and how you speak to members is a disgrace maybe @maxd should look at this or @dunover or @Casinomeister as I’m Frankly fed up of your flaming and abuse and I’m well aware others are too...

 

[mack341]

Mine where directly related to race and them being black Mack mate. If he was such a racist then the black vote from the last election would not have gone up

yes I agree, and the media were playing on that specific fear, stoking it up to get a reaction, playing identity politics. I don't think ben carson would have had any time for trump if he sensed he was full of hate towards black people as portrayed by the media, I think jesse jackson gave him an award once too.

 

[geordiecolin]

Fair and decent point mate that, but this corona nonsense has effected us all.

it gives nobody a free pass to assume they can call and abuse others.

and this was about before Covid.

im not wanting a further discussion on this as it’s not worth it (not my hard fought for membership)

I like this place and the people and reps I’ve met and some now I class as personal friends, you included.

should be in bed but this awful meeting tomoz is playing on my mind, also I’ll probs be stuck in manchester the weekend sorting it out...

For over 30 years I when I have had trouble getting off to sleep I close my eyes and imagine that I have just broken off playing snooker. I get one in from the break then proceed in potting every ball. Just try to get to potting the last ball mate.

 

[Playford7]

For over 30 years I when I have had trouble getting off to sleep I close my eyes and imagine that I have just broken off playing snooker. I get one in from the break then proceed in potting every ball. Just try to get to potting the last ball mate.

Personal best break of 67 ;-)

 

[vorcirion]

Why? It’s always you..

this is your opinion.. it’s not fact.

look I’m busy, I’ve a daughter and a job.

im not sure how you fill your time but this isn’t healthy, your goading and flaming is like water off a ducks back now, it’s irrelevant.

ive not reported you once for the abuse you give me, I have a opinion... that’s it..

im no monster...

your also nowhere near the US nor have links to the place so I’m at a loss your outrage at opinions that don’t affect nor concern you.

your attitude and how you speak to members is a disgrace maybe @maxd should look at this or @dunover or @Casinomeister as I’m Frankly fed up of your flaming and abuse and I’m well aware others are too...

You call other people intolerant and biased. Dunno what you expect. You should stay away from political threads imo.

 

[geordiecolin]

yes I agree, and the media were playing on that specific fear, stoking it up to get a reaction, playing identity politics. I don't think ben carson would have had any time for trump if he sensed he was full of hate towards black people as portrayed by the media, I think jesse jackson gave him an award once too.

I was not aware of Jesse Jackson doing that. Really?

 

[Playford7]

You call other people intolerant and biased. Dunno what you expect. You should stay away from political threads imo.

What people exactly?

what do you work as? What’s your links to the states and why so sad about someone whom doesn’t hold the same political beliefs as yourself?

also me and @colinsunderland dont see eye to eye regarding many issues, yet I’d like to think we have been friends on here many years and like each other...

i don’t get your hatred and aggression, it’s always you...

 

[geordiecolin]

yes I agree, and the media were playing on that specific fear, stoking it up to get a reaction, playing identity politics. I don't think ben carson would have had any time for trump if he sensed he was full of hate towards black people as portrayed by the media, I think jesse jackson gave him an award once too.

I think that Nancy ignored her own integrity with the gender issue two days ago by stating" as a housewife,mother and grandmother...."
She scares me

 

[geordiecolin]

Good night all

 

[mack341]

I was not aware of Jesse Jackson doing that. Really?

just checking for that now, can't see anything about an award so I must have imagined that but he did sing donald's praises in a video:

 

[Playford7]

Good night all

Night sexy, sleep well.

tuck you in when I get up to bed x

 

[vorcirion]

Why? It’s always you..

this is your opinion.. it’s not fact.

look I’m busy, I’ve a daughter and a job.

im not sure how you fill your time but this isn’t healthy, your goading and flaming is like water off a ducks back now, it’s irrelevant.

ive not reported you once for the abuse you give me, I have a opinion... that’s it..

im no monster...

your also nowhere near the US nor have links to the place so I’m at a loss your outrage at opinions that don’t affect nor concern you.

your attitude and how you speak to members is a disgrace maybe @maxd should look at this or @dunover or @Casinomeister as I’m Frankly fed up of your flaming and abuse and I’m well aware others are too...

Besides I don't know why you're whining. You're very willing to give your opinions and you think I shouldn't? I have very strong views on certain issues. I'm not going to let you treat immigrants, people from other faiths, people of color etc. badly. I have endless energy to defend them no matter where they live.

 

[mack341]

I think that Nancy ignored her own integrity with the gender issue two days ago by stating" as a housewife,mother and grandmother...."
She scares me

yeah she is a bit odd, must be retiring soon I'd have thought.