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mack341 said:
I think Trump knows he's been stitched up by the establishment, but proving the election fraud in courts where the judges practically have their fingers in their ears is another issue. It's the comparison with Obama's figures that is all the statistical proof anyone [fair minded] could ever need that something wasn't right with the counts.

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Maybe you should donate some money to Trump. Might help him to win the election.
 
mack341 said:
I think Trump knows he's been stitched up by the establishment, but proving the election fraud in courts where the judges practically have their fingers in their ears is another issue. It's the comparison with Obama's figures that is all the statistical proof anyone [fair minded] could ever need that something wasn't right with the counts.

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Where is the proof?

judges trump appointed shut down the lawsuits. 60 lawsuits.

you mean to tell me that all 60 judges were against trump?
 
Steviedoo said:
Where is the proof?

judges trump appointed shut down the lawsuits. 60 lawsuits.

you mean to tell me that all 60 judges were against trump?
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Sad thing is there are people think that all 60 verdicts was bias, How these people live a normal day to day life I have no idea, Its scary to think there's that many people out there who's been brainwashed by trump, If he came out and said the pope is Muslim he's puppets would believe him.

Every single word that comes out of mouth they believe, Even when they are faced with hard facts and evidence they still flat out refuse to believe trump is lying, Its a cult
 
ESCJAMIE said:
This "man" will not go on the 20th, I just have a feeling he's just going to flat out refuse to leave.

I honestly thought he knew he lost fair and square and all this is just an act, But this phone call just proofs how deluded he is, Hi is shitting him self the thought of no longer being president and coming out to shit ton of court cases against him as soon as hes gone.
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He can refuse all he wants, the 20th Amendment of the Constitution of the USA says that at noon of the 20th day of January the term of the President and Vice President end and the term of their successors begin.
 
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sufferinsilence said:
He can refuse all he wants, the 20th Amendment of the Constitution of the USA says that at noon of the 20th day of January the term of the President and Vice President end and the term of their successors begin.
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What would happen if he refused and say the army backed him up.
 
ESCJAMIE said:
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What would happen if he refused and say the army backed him up.
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Doesnt strike me as an option; while he has his cult, by and large the military answer to the office and constitution
 
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sufferinsilence said:
That'd be classed as a coup I think. It'd basically throw the USA in a military regime and I know some of hardcore MAGA's would love to see this happen but it's highly unlikely that'd happen.
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Also he lost alot of military voters this time also. So I cant see it happening either tbh, but after 2020 who knows
 
Steviedoo said:
Where is the proof?

judges trump appointed shut down the lawsuits. 60 lawsuits.

you mean to tell me that all 60 judges were against trump?
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I think they probably were but I can also understand them not really wanting to be the arbitrators, and deciding the legitimacy of votes and the process; Trump would need the tools of the establishment to uncover election fraud, the fbi, nsa etc..like they investigated russiagate with determination, all he has is some lawyers and politicians loyal to him, this help is judged as partisan and so not enough.

If the result was 72 million to biden and 71 trump, it would be far more believable, that said, only people on the ground can know whether 81 M for biden, together with the loss of congress seats and half the counties of Obama etc.. stacks up with the political mood and their experience in the country.

As people have said here, the handling of covid cost trump the silent voter and the more elderly, could be it, and only US citizens would really know.
 
Steviedoo said:
Is the MSM making this up ?
Twisting facts?

Selecting clips that will make him look bad?

He released the tape himself.
Or mark meadows released it.

...just another grift so his followers can send him more money.

or of course he did it to destroy Mitch McConnell and the Republican Party.

Whatever the reasoning behind the call and the tape. He continues to destroy the office of the presidency.
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Really? I post the full hour for others to digest and I get that?
 
geordiecolin said:
Really? I post the full hour for others to digest and I get that?
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and I don’t understand.

After listening to the hour long tape.
and reading about it through several medias, twitters, etc...

those were my comments.
nothing against you the poster.

am i not allowed to state that the full hour does not exonerate him nor does it show the msm were hiding facts.
Not that you implied it at all.
maybe I should I have been clear. My apologies.
 
I watched the clips.
I read the reports.
I watched the full length
The man, is utterly, utterly dangerous to a well kept, western, 21st century democratic society
 
Steviedoo said:
and I don’t understand.

After listening to the hour long tape.
and reading about it through several medias, twitters, etc...

those were my comments.
nothing against you the poster.

am i not allowed to state that the full hour does not exonerate him nor does it show the msm were hiding facts.
Not that you implied it at all.
maybe I should I have been clear. My apologies.
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No worries. I shall reiterate that I am not left or right. I have said before that I do not like American politics and I think that both sides are riddled with corruption. Given that it is and hopefully will continue to be such a world power I do have an interest in it. I can understand Trumps point about China. China could easily take over as the dominant Country in the world. More so now that they have stolen a march on most of the world. :thumbsup:
 
geordiecolin said:
It could be argued the same about Biden too
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I'm not a Biden fan, just. lesser of 2 evils
I believe the US, can, and should do better for candidates :)
 
geordiecolin said:
Agreed. I think that their whole political system should be reformed but that will never happen :(
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It was a system served them well in the 1800s
Definitely time to be revisited
 
Newly elected Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, a staunch Trump supporter, says the state's "elections should be decertified." Asked if that applied to her election on the same ballot, she said, "We're just talking about the President's race."

:D Only the presidential race is fraudulous, everything downballot is just fine... when you're elected.
 
sufferinsilence said:
Newly elected Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, a staunch Trump supporter, says the state's "elections should be decertified." Asked if that applied to her election on the same ballot, she said, "We're just talking about the President's race."

:D Only the presidential race is fraudulous, everything downballot is just fine... when you're elected.
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Have the senate run-offs for georgia finished now, I'm finding it very confusing to follow, seems to be taking ages. If the dems win the two seats will they have control of the senate, d'you know?
 
sufferinsilence said:


And they thought the police was their friend...
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The National guard also getting deployed to be at hes marches this week, lets hope they use the same force they did to BLM protesters
 
geordiecolin said:
Facebook's reaction is posted a little down this page. Deleted for "Sexual exploitation". Censorship is shocking.

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youtube have deleted talkradio's channel today, these market monopolies need to be held to account for blatant censorship, literally snowflake organisations masquerading as a platform for and interested in sharing opinions and thoughts until they disagree, which doesn't take much to trigger.
 
Pence has probably got one sitting on his head again :oops: ...if that was the reason trump lost, because voters couldn't take his VP seriously after that, then the least he could do is ignore these dodgy EC votes :p


Edit: just as an adjunct to my post the other day, Mrs Clinton won 487 counties in 2016 according to AP, so even that was 10 more than china joe.
 
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mack341 said:
Pence has probably got one sitting on his head again :oops: ...if that was the reason trump lost, because voters couldn't take his VP seriously after that, then the least he could do is ignore these dodgy EC votes :p


Edit: just as an adjunct to my post the other day, Mrs Clinton won 487 counties in 2016 according to AP, so even that was 10 more than china joe.
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your statements do not make sense.


so Pence should reject the EC cuz the voters hated him and that's why Trump lost?

also Hilary winning 10 more counties than Biden means absolutely nothing.
Biden won. The dems worked extremely hard to get out the vote...via mail. what is so hard to understand.

So far there has been no proof of all the claims Trump and his cabal have made.

Those court cases were a sham. They didn't even pretend to file a case re fraud cuz then they would have to prove it in court.

the court of public opinion is easier to convince then in the court of law.

all a show.

Trump will end up fleeing the country eventually.
 
mack341 said:
youtube have deleted talkradio's channel today, these market monopolies need to be held to account for blatant censorship, literally snowflake organisations masquerading as a platform for and interested in sharing opinions and thoughts until they disagree, which doesn't take much to trigger.
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Talk Radio are back up again. A Mainstream radio station banned for talking to a Conservative MP! It just goes to show how bad things have became and it will only get worse :(
 
Steviedoo said:
your statements do not make sense.


so Pence should reject the EC cuz the voters hated him and that's why Trump lost?

also Hilary winning 10 more counties than Biden means absolutely nothing.
Biden won. The dems worked extremely hard to get out the vote...via mail. what is so hard to understand.

So far there has been no proof of all the claims Trump and his cabal have made.

Those court cases were a sham. They didn't even pretend to file a case re fraud cuz then they would have to prove it in court.

the court of public opinion is easier to convince then in the court of law.

all a show.

Trump will end up fleeing the country eventually.
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The first 'statement' was really meant as a semi joke, oh dear.

Hillary wins 10 more counties than biden, and yet he gets roughly 15 million more votes than her 4 years later, doesn't make sense to me but I'm not familiar with the finer details around the different counties, and how that would be possible.

Why will Trump flee the country and presumably lose contact with his family, unless they all move with him?

If the answer is court cases, how can china joe and his son get off scot-free in comparison ?

[ The above may be viewed as rhetorical questions ]
 
geordiecolin said:
Talk Radio are back up again. A Mainstream radio station banned for talking to a Conservative MP! It just goes to show how bad things have became and it will only get worse :(
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I just hope they don't start toeing the msm line for fear of losing again the commercial/marketing benefit of being on youtube, with the reach that can give you; no doubt in my mind that was what google/youtube was up to, using their economic clout and virtual monopoly to enforce censorship on covid and this worldwide lockdown experiment.
 
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Would be funny if the democrats win the senate tonight. Then I guess there will be two new states, more democratic senators and maybe some progress for the US. Let's see if miracles do happen :P
 
vorcirion said:
Would be funny if the democrats win the senate tonight. Then I guess there will be two new states, more democratic senators and maybe some progress for the US. Let's see if miracles do happen :p
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I'll be checking for updates on the election wizard's twitter feed, I can highly recommend his content, I'm sure you'd love it! :p




Edit: reading the comments underneath though, it doesn't sound good for the GOP :eek2:
 
mack341 said:
I'll be checking for updates on the election wizard's twitter feed, I can highly recommend his content, I'm sure you'd love it! :p




Edit: reading the comments underneath though, it doesn't sound good for the GOP :eek2:
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Yup lower turnout numbers in republican counties. Guess they got sad when Trump lost (or did he?). And democrats so far doing better than Biden did...but that might change when the same day vote comes in.
 
probably far fetched but I wonder if this could have a bearing on the mike pence thing tomorrow...

I thought there was some sort of mechanism in the senate where a simple majority is not enough to vote things through [ because of the use of the filibuster tactic?]

The minority then felt politically safer in threatening filibusters more regularly, which became normalized over time to the point that 60 votes are now required to end debate on nearly every controversial legislative item. As a result, "the contemporary Senate has morphed into a 60-vote institution — the new normal for approving measures or matters — a fundamental transformation from earlier years.

Would Joe need 60 senate votes to add another two states I wonder?
 
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