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Well you have to take a proper look first - is there evidence of looking?

Oh come on old chap, you really are disappearing down the rabbit hole here.

It's just not a rational position to challenge every single observation of objective reality with 'Ahhh well but has anyone tried to prove that objective reality might be fake? I have no evidence whatsoever that this might be the case, but I'm going so suggest it anyway, worth looking into, don't you think?'

Trump lost, he lost fair and square, and he lost by a tidy margin, and until any actual evidence to the contrary is presented to a court of law as opposed to Trump screaming at the clouds on Twitter, that's the reality we're in.

There's a reason that the legal challenges are dropping like flies, that the lawyers are starting to run for the hills, and that there's still not one single shred of concrete evidence to back up Trump and his family's increasingly unhinged wailings on Twitter - and that reason is he lost a fair election in a democratic country. End of story.

Trump's fighting like a cat in a sack because once he's out of the White House there's a decent chance he's going to end up bankrupt, in jail, or both.
 
Oh come on old chap, you really are disappearing down the rabbit hole here.

It's just not a rational position to challenge every single observation of objective reality with 'Ahhh well but has anyone tried to prove that objective reality might be fake? I have no evidence whatsoever that this might be the case, but I'm going so suggest it anyway, worth looking into, don't you think?'

Trump lost, he lost fair and square, and he lost by a tidy margin, and until any actual evidence to the contrary is presented to a court of law as opposed to Trump screaming at the clouds on Twitter, that's the reality we're in.

There's a reason that the legal challenges are dropping like flies, that the lawyers are starting to run for the hills, and that there's still not one single shred of concrete evidence to back up Trump and his family's increasingly unhinged wailings on Twitter - and that reason is he lost a fair election in a democratic country. End of story.

Trump's fighting like a cat in a sack because once he's out of the White House there's a decent chance he's going to end up bankrupt, in jail, or both.
To put things in perspective.
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But thats enough politics, i give up.
But i only give up because im bored, I CONCEDE NOTHING.


 
Bit of a gigantic leap come 2020 for those 90 year old+ voters :rolleyes:... "This is data-driven, circumstantial evidence of ballot laundering."...[Graph & quote from matt gaetz's twitter]

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Matt Gaetz's Twitter is also the place where you can find proof he's trying to woo Tiffany Trump, but that aside, there seems to be some sort of function that when the birthdate of new voters is unknown it defaults to 1/1/1900. Atleast that's what I read, I'm sure both sides have their own explanation as usual.
 
Hopefully these claims should come down to provable facts.

I think a detailed audit/check on votes, if it comes back clear, would help Joe and the country, but any public sense of sweeping allegations under the carpet will do greater harm in the long term.

I haven't read or seen anything that indicates Joe is trying to stop anyone from looking. There's a recount going on in Georgia and depending on the R's court "cases" there might be recounts or audits. All perfectly within their rights.
 
Hopefully these claims should come down to provable facts.

I think a detailed audit/check on votes, if it comes back clear, would help Joe and the country, but any public sense of sweeping allegations under the carpet will do greater harm in the long term.

Do you know what would've really helped the country and Joe? If some loser would've conceded and not made these crazy allegations without any really hard evidence. But that loser doesn't care about his country or americans in general so he doesn't care what his actions do to the country.
 
Do you know what would've really helped the country and Joe? If some loser would've conceded and not made these crazy allegations without any really hard evidence. But that loser doesn't care about his country or americans in general so he doesn't care what his actions do to the country.
You saying you don’t agree?. Lol
 
I haven't read or seen anything that indicates Joe is trying to stop anyone from looking. There's a recount going on in Georgia and depending on the R's court "cases" there might be recounts or audits. All perfectly within their rights.
Thats not going to be enough, Trump wants to find a few hundred ballots that may be dubious, and then he can call for a re-run. He's not going anywhere because he knows when he leaves the Whitehouse there's a good chance he will end up in prison.
No matter how clean this election will be proven to be, Trump and his minions have forever tainted it, and no amount of recounts, audits, failed court cases is going to dissuade his base, and some on here, that it wasnt a democrat scam or a democrat steal, even though the other votes ( even the ones on the same ballots) seemed to favour the Republicans.
As the man once said, stupid is as stupid does...
 
Reported for sausage disrespect and racism towards the sausage community.
Im waiting with my report to confirm whether it was pure sausage hating bigotry going on, or if he was just stating a fact.
Because no matter what video you watch, the time spent watching it is time you wont get back.
He may have been happy he spent the time watching the arts of making sausage, but i agree it does sound like sausage bigotry.
 
Im waiting with my report to confirm whether it was pure sausage hating bigotry going on, or if he was just stating a fact.
Because no matter what video you watch, the time spent watching it is time you wont get back.
He may have been happy he spent the time watching the arts of making sausage, but i agree it does sound like sausage bigotry.
I like a sausage as much as the next man BUT a Sundae is not a sausage, its ice cream and its nice, not manky blood sausage...
 
I like a sausage as much as the next man BUT a Sundae is not a sausage, its ice cream and its nice, not manky blood sausage...
Black pudding is blood sausage and it’s heavenly, as is white pudding and haggis.

I also love liver and kidney, my ex used to call me a uncouth caveman...

no idea where she got that idea..
 
Black pudding is blood sausage and it’s heavenly, as is white pudding and haggis.

I also love liver and kidney, my ex used to call me a uncouth caveman...

no idea where she got that idea..
I like white pudding, but black pudding is the stuff of nightmares.
Liver and onion was a staple for school dinners back in the day, liked it but havent had it in ages. Kidney is ok, as long as it comes with steak in a pie...
 
I like a sausage as much as the next man BUT a Sundae is not a sausage, its ice cream and its nice, not manky blood sausage...
So basically your complaint is there was not enough ice cream in the sausage.
I agree, and please forgive me for suspecting you of sausage bigotry.

Have a sausage cone.

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Solid reading of why the lawyers are quitting from fighting Trump's cases.

(Click the link to see the whole thread, the screenshot below is a summary. But in essence, the only logical reason for the lawyers to drop the cases are because they know that if they continue, they'd be breaking their own 'duty to the court', which if they break, lands them in serious trouble.)

Until any of these allegations make it into court with evidence, the whole lot is just hot air.



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In quite a few areas the US could probably learn from their cousins and neighbours to the north, healthcare system for one and this:


Not saying it cant be done, but there are about 290 million more people in USA,

And its not like its ever been a problem for them using machines to count votes.
Thru all elections, voter fraud has been extremely rare, and never to such deegrees that it would change
outcomes.
International controllers and controllers from both parties have come out and said the 2020 election was one of the smoothest & safest election they have had.

Weird how they are all putting their reputation & possibly job at stake just to mess with Trump.
Especially those from the Republican side.
 
Meanwhile, Trump keeps retweeting old stories thats already been proved not to be true.
Extra weird because i thought he hated fox news now since they removed their nose from his butt for that one article. :laugh:
They really should disable his Twitter before he does something really dumb.
Wouldnt surprise me if he calls for violence soon the way his tantrum is going.

 
Not saying it cant be done, but there are about 290 million more people in USA,

And its not like its ever been a problem for them using machines to count votes.
Thru all elections, voter fraud has been extremely rare, and never to such deegrees that it would change
outcomes.
International controllers and controllers from both parties have come out and said the 2020 election was one of the smoothest & safest election they have had.

Weird how they are all putting their reputation & possibly job at stake just to mess with Trump.
Especially those from the Republican side.

I keep telling you about rinos and trump, to put it in another way, do you think if bernie sanders was in a similar situation every establishment democrat would have his back?

I think with the canada system the results would be more trusted, and in this day and age where there is growing political divison, that's more important than a little difficulty with logistics.
 
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I keep telling you about rinos and trump, to put it in another way, do you think if bernie sanders was in a similar situation every establishment democrat would have his back?

I think with the canada system the results would be more trusted, and in this day and age where there is growing political divison, that's more important than a little difficulty with logistics.
But is it a problem, or is Trump making it into a problem?
He keeps riling up his supporters with videos he must know are not true/already proven to be false.
Like the tucker video he just posted.

Do you think all this would have happened without Trump screaming FRAUD at the top of his lungs and spreading Qanon crap and other fake videos to rile up his base.
He is doing his best to make sure every Republican out there feels screwed over by the election.

All official sources say its extremely rare with voter fraud, and has never been a problem in the USA.
What has changed, apart from the man in the White house?
 
I’m at a loss why he doesn’t just concede...

Any respect from myself is waining with this stupid game he’s playing in which it’s only the American people who lose out, it’s supposed to be the people you serve and respect...

He doesn't want to concede because he's used to getting things his way. Just look at how he ran his administration: everyone who didn't agree in the slightest was chucked out and hung out to dry on Twitter. Do you really think this man is just going to go on TV and make a concession speech on all the major networks? If anything the White House will announce he's going on "holiday" to Mar-a-Lago and never returns after that.
 
I think I've seen Kim "Letsgiveitaspin" try a similar kinda sausage on his stream. There was alot of milk involved.
Yes, i remember that aswell.
Think i saw it on the side when i watched another video of the Harikiri sausage.

Pff, like a streamer would be able to finish the viking sausage.

 
He doesn't want to concede because he's used to getting things his way. Just look at how he ran his administration: everyone who didn't agree in the slightest was chucked out and hung out to dry on Twitter. Do you really think this man is just going to go on TV and make a concession speech on all the major networks? If anything the White House will announce he's going on "holiday" to Mar-a-Lago and never returns after that.
Whatever he does he’s no longer president.

I don’t really care how he ends it, would personally rather just move on and see how the new guy fairs as he’s clearly the messiah to many.
 
Whatever he does he’s no longer president.

I don’t really care how he ends it, would personally rather just move on and see how the new guy fairs as he’s clearly the messiah to many.
oh, i dont think hes the one with the God-complex :D

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Whatever he does he’s no longer president.

I don’t really care how he ends it, would personally rather just move on and see how the new guy fairs as he’s clearly the messiah to many.

Trump('s admin) needs to officially set stuff in motion. It's a public matter one way or another.

I don't think Biden's a messiah perse but a relief to many, a sense of normalcy and some hope for better days. We'll see how it goes.
 
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