North Korea and US politics

[ternur]

Then you clearly where not disappointed.

Didn't expect anything. Watched it out of boredom.

Joking aside mate, do you have a horse or preference in this race?

I've never liked Trump, but in the end, I really don't care much who wins.

So no, can't really say that I have a preference in the race. It's all the same, mundane crap with different seasoning.

 

[Kroffe]

Its amazing how he can stand there with a straight face and say its weird the mail in votes are weighted towards Biden.
Hes been telling his supporters to not use mail in voting.
Maybe he forgot.

 

[vorcirion]

Oh I’m not, before I’m hung out on the cross again it’s just banter...

I’ve better things to be concerned about than this, I did assume my past few days worth of comments would have diffused some hostility here.

pissing in the wind is probably more appropriate.

I tried however.

I'm not hostile at you at all! You've been really respectful. Something I wouldn't expect from a Trump supporter! So I won't be gloating even if Biden wins!

 

[Kroffe]

He basically just came out to double down on his voter fraud plan.
Make half the people think they are being robbed.
Divide, spread bad mojo etc.
Sad.

 

[vorcirion]

I'm not hostile at you at all! You've been really respectful. Something I wouldn't expect from a Trump supporter! So I won't be gloating even if Biden wins!

Then again if Trump wins...I'm gonna become a real finnish person and develop a drinking habit.

 

[Playford7]

Didn't expect anything. Watched it out of boredom.



I've never liked Trump, but in the end, I really don't care much who wins.

So no, can't really say that I have a preference in the race. It's all the same, mundane crap with different seasoning.

Fair comment as always mate.

 

[ternur]

Then again if Trump wins...I'm gonna become a real finnish person and develop a drinking habit.

Welcome home V.

Trust me, you should do it even if Biden wins.

 

[vorcirion]

Welcome home V.

Trust me, you should do it even if Biden wins.

Sorry but Pepsimax is strong enough for me right now

 

[ternur]

Sorry but Pepsimax is strong enough for me right now

Ok then. I'll take the bullet and drink for both of us. It's tough, but someone has to do it.

Kanpai!

 

[sufferinsilence]

This is the kind of lawsuits the Trump camp brings to court:

 

[vorcirion]

This is the kind of lawsuits the Trump camp brings to court:

If you're not close enough to grab them by the pussy...it doesn't count.

 

[ladyhawke]

Just hearing that the New York Post - a fervent Trump paper - has released a headline along the lines: Trump makes baseless claims regarding voter fraud.

Wow.

 

[Playford7]

Just hearing that the New York Post - a fervent Trump paper - has released a headline along the lines: Trump makes baseless claims regarding voter fraud.

Wow.

Baseless unless they can be proven..

this may not be over yet, he’s as much right to defend his position as the dems where regarding the Russian nonsense, the stormy the slapper nonsense and the like....

as I’ve said I personally think he should concede when he’s officially beaten, but that’s not the case as yet....

 

[ladyhawke]

Stan Grant - an Australian political analyst - has made the following comments after Trump's speech.

Many Americans believe that they are financially better off under Trump than they were four years ago. However, Trump doesn't capitalise on this. Instead, he stokes anger, hatred, anxiety and paranoia.

The reason many top Republicans aren't repudiating Trump's speech is that if they do, they will have a target printed on their back, due to the blind devotion of Trump's followers. However, note that Pence was absent, and the only people speaking out for Trump are his own family.

Note: Still listening to ABC News (Australia) and more and more top republicans are tweeting against Trump's claims. I need to double check this as I missed some of the context, although Mitt Romney was mentioned.

 

[Playford7]

I'm not hostile at you at all! You've been really respectful. Something I wouldn't expect from a Trump supporter! So I won't be gloating even if Biden wins!

Agreed, I had a brief Democrat moment (snowflakitus)

apologies

 

[ladyhawke]

Baseless unless they can be proven..

this may not be over yet, he’s as much right to defend his position as the dems where regarding the Russian nonsense, the stormy the slapper nonsense and the like....

as I’ve said I personally think he should concede when he’s officially beaten, but that’s not the case as yet....

When his own supporters are starting to turn on him over his comments regarding voter fraud and illegal votes, then there really is something in the wind.

 

[ladyhawke]

The worst thing about this election among other things is that there will be so many of Americas population spending the next 4 years not believing the results authenticity

Due to Trump's rhetoric I'm afraid.

 

[Playford7]

When his own supporters are starting to turn on him over his comments regarding voter fraud and illegal votes, then there really is something in the wind.

I agree, when he’s officially beaten then he should walk like a man and accept defeat.

but we are not quite there as yet.

until then he’s entitled to play politics as it’s always been done.

 

[Playford7]

Sorry but Pepsimax is strong enough for me right now

Cane sugar Dr Pepper is the way to go, sadly due to corona I’ve not been able to import any for a while.

 

[Playford7]

If you're not close enough to grab them by the pussy...it doesn't count.

Isn’t that the only way to grab wom....
Joking!!!!!!

 

[ladyhawke]

but we are not quite there as yet.

until then he’s entitled to play politics as it’s always been done.

I don't agree with this as it goes far beyond playing politics. What Trump is doing is trying to stir up civil unrest and discredit the entire US voting system.

 

[ladyhawke]

Isn’t that the only way to grab wom....
Joking!!!!!!

You may be joking, but it is still not funny. Some comments you have made are hilariously awesome - @makeamericawait again and the Gangnam style comment - but not this one.

Sorry. Not sorry.

 

[vorcirion]

Cane sugar Dr Pepper is the way to go, sadly due to corona I’ve not been able to import any for a while.

We need more trade routes here in the north. Haven't heard of such thing!

 

[Playford7]

We need more trade routes here in the north. Haven't heard of such thing!

It’s Mexican i believe. My next batch I’ll happily send you a 6 pack.

 

[Playford7]

You may be joking, but it is still not funny. Some comments you have made are hilariously awesome - @makeamericawait again and the Gangnam style comment - but not this one.

Sorry. Not sorry.

Oh don’t report me, I didn’t mean anything by it.

Even I get sick of the bans.

 

[vorcirion]

It’s Mexican i believe. My next batch I’ll happily send you a 6 pack.

You sure you can get them flown over Trump's wall?

 

[Playford7]

You may be joking, but it is still not funny. Some comments you have made are hilariously awesome - @makeamericawait again and the Gangnam style comment - but not this one.

Sorry. Not sorry.

Thinking back on that comment it was out of line @ladyhawke

so jokes aside I’m sorry for that one.

 

[Playford7]

You sure you can get them flown over Trump's wall?

Has the silly old sod even started it yet haha

 

[vorcirion]

Has the silly old sod even started it yet haha

I think the wind killed it along with birds.

 

[vorcirion]

I really need to sleep somehow...gimme more election results so I can relax a bit!

 

[Playford7]

I really need to sleep somehow...gimme more election results so I can relax a bit!

Same, I’m up at 7, half a day but still have to be up.
when are we due the next results? Roughly?..

 

[dionysus]

I really need to sleep somehow...gimme more election results so I can relax a bit!

dont hold your breath - at best, a bit more one side or the other, percentage wise, but wont be a 'winner' this evening

 

[vorcirion]

Same, I’m up at 7, half a day but still have to be up.
when are we due the next results? Roughly?..

Wish I knew!

 

[vorcirion]

dont hold your breath - at best, a bit more one side or the other, percentage wise, but wont be a 'winner' this evening

There might be a winner this evening! Pennsylvania keeps counting...if Biden overtakes Trump tonight...it's done! 58k difference in votes.

 

[dionysus]

There might be a winner this evening! Pennsylvania keeps counting...if Biden overtakes Trump tonight...it's done! 58k difference in votes.

 

[dionysus]

 

[vorcirion]

53k!

 

[sufferinsilence]

 

[ladyhawke]

Just read a very good comment regarding his speech earlier today:

"He really didnt have to stoop this low. No one wouldve blamed him for requesting recounts, audits and oversight. Any candidate wouldve done the same in a race this close. But this... this is a whole new level of low. "

If he does happen to win, how will he defend this speech? Or will it be more of the same vitriol, e.g.

• the dems tried to steal the election but I still beat them
• I told you there were millions of illegal votes and now they have been identified, I won easily

Or even worse:

• I will never allow this to happen again as I will be changing the voting rules

 

[Kroffe]

Just read a very good comment regarding his speech earlier today:

"He really didnt have to stoop this low. No one wouldve blamed him for requesting recounts, audits and oversight. Any candidate wouldve done the same in a race this close. But this... this is a whole new level of low. "

If he does happen to win, how will he defend this speech? Or will it be more of the same vitriol, e.g.

• the dems tried to steal the election but I still beat them
• I told you there were millions of illegal votes and now they have been identified, I won easily

Or even worse:

• I will never allow this to happen again as I will be changing the voting rules

Imo it was always going to come down to him yelling voter fraud unless Biden was beating him hands down.
He knew when he went out to make that speech that mail in ballots that were weighted towards Biden were left to be counted, he knew Biden would catch up and maybe overtake him.
He has alot riding on this election since its not unlikely he ends up in prison if he loses.
Charges and investigations that are pending, only because hes President.

Being "normal" and say it will be a tight race towards the finish and thank his supporters was never going to happen.

 

[Kroffe]

I guess in a way this is Trumps normal.
Yelling fake when things are not the way he likes it.

 

[Kroffe]

Props to him for posting in the TIL subreddit tho.
And about elephans aswell.
Neat.

 

[Steviedoo]

in the end Biden might just end up with 300 electoral votes. As predicted.

the thing that is throwing everyone off is this false sense that trump was winning in the battle states when the mail in ballots hadn’t been counted and we know they favour Biden. This is why the Biden team is confident they will win. They’ve done the math.

 

[ladyhawke]

in the end Biden might just end up with 300 electoral votes. As predicted.

the thing that is throwing everyone off is this false sense that trump was winning in the battle states when the mail in ballots hadn’t been counted and we know they favour Biden. This is why the Biden team is confident they will win. They’ve done the math.

If Trump does win re-election, will that have much of an impact on your life or will you just continue as you were?

And if Biden wins do you believe America will manage to reconcile Red with Blue, or are the divisions between the two that Trump's presidency has exacerbated still be as much in evidence as before?

 

[sufferinsilence]

 

[cncas2123]

Imo it was always going to come down to him yelling voter fraud unless Biden was beating him hands down.
He knew when he went out to make that speech that mail in ballots that were weighted towards Biden were left to be counted, he knew Biden would catch up and maybe overtake him.
He has alot riding on this election since its not unlikely he ends up in prison if he loses.
Charges and investigations that are pending, only because hes President.

Being "normal" and say it will be a tight race towards the finish and thank his supporters was never going to happen.

He’s been laying the foundations for voter fraud for the last 6 months so not surprising that he was shouting voter fraud on the day of the election .
And probably it explains why he pushed his supporters to vote in person, so that he can try and get as many mail ins as possible declared void.
God bless America and democracy... I hope.

 

[geordiecolin]

Due to Trump's rhetoric I'm afraid.

There are folk who have spoke publicly that they where unable to vote in person because they where told that they had already voted by mail and that dead folk had been counted in the voting so I doubt that there is no foundation in the claims of vote fraud

 

[vorcirion]

There are folk who have spoke publicly that they where unable to vote in person because they where told that they had already voted by mail and that dead folk had been counted in the voting so I doubt that there is no foundation in the claims of vote fraud

Sure sure! Thankfully these voices will be muted for the next 4 years. Less crazy stuff please!

 

[ladyhawke]

There are folk who have spoke publicly that they where unable to vote in person because they where told that they had already voted by mail and that dead folk had been counted in the voting so I doubt that there is no foundation in the claims of vote fraud

When you have a dead person elected to the Senate, then I guess anything is possible (Republican David Andahl, who died from COVID-19 in late October).

The only reference I could find was from a woman in Nevada, as reported in The Epoch Times/Truly Times.

However, this sounds more like Trump's conspiracy theory that is being spread around as it is acknowledged that postal voting fraud is exceptionally rare, due to a range of security measures in place. And Trump's campaign team investigating this "believe" it is happening. No more, no less, just a 'belief'.


However, I saw loads of complaints from the UK about the same thing in the General Election in 2019.

 

[vorcirion]

There are folk who have spoke publicly that they where unable to vote in person because they where told that they had already voted by mail and that dead folk had been counted in the voting so I doubt that there is no foundation in the claims of vote fraud

Or maybe you're referring to this:

Then sure if that happened then let's invalidate those Trump votes.