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mack341 said:
yeah that is true, apparently, according to tucker, elizabeth warren did talk some economic sense: 0.29 onwards [esp 3.50 forward]




I think there could be a one nation consensus, if the dems woke up and focused on the real priorities for the majority.
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yes, Warren has recently pivoted off id politics, trump and racism. I can't find the video but the fox news showed a montage of a bunch of dems, (pelosi and others) and I think msm pundits tossing around the "patriotism" word just like they all were saying manufactured crisis.

In the first 2 minutes: (Published on Mar 6, 2019)

 
Kroffe said:
My god, it all makes sense now.
Even if you try spelling it backwards it still says the same thing.
And ontop of that, if you remove a few of the letters, and add a couple others it turns into "Mindcontrolbandworkingforkimjongil"
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Wait til you find out what IKEA represents :eek2:
 
goatwack said:
Wait til you find out what IKEA represents :eek2:
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Dude, dont tell anyone.
But ikea is actually only a furniture store by day. By night its a viking training camp.
By now we have locations all over the world.
Its not by accident the things have Viking names. But for some reason nobody questions the shelf named BORK, the coffetable RAGNHARL.
This furniture will, if put together correctly, turn into fearsome weapons.
 
Kroffe said:
Dude, dont tell anyone.
But ikea is actually only a furniture store by day. By night its a viking training camp.
By now we have locations all over the world.
Its not by accident the things have Viking names. But for some reason nobody questions the shelf named BORK, the coffetable RAGNHARL.
This furniture will, if put together correctly, turn into fearsome weapons.
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I was going to say they represent great value for money, but we'll go with the viking camp
 
vorcirion said:


Just because right-wing people are always so happy and joyful :p
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'when a fellow limbaugh fan introduced him to fox news' :laugh:

So he was essentially cured of this right wing blight by the radio breaking...that was truly a holy miracle...

I couldn't listen to limbaugh, glenn beck or hannity too much it would give me indigestion, tucker is different, he's not a bigoted oaf but a realist or pragmatist. What should have accompanied that vid are the rising crime and poverty stats for the decade(s) during the time her dad gradually became more right wing.

You can have a left agenda and want a better deal for the american have nots, but leave it at that, don't try and increase the number of have nots by adding millions of more immigrants into the mix...america's already got one of the most diverse societies on earth, a lack of diversity is not it's major one problem...when's that penny gonna drop for the sjw's and radicals?
 
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vorcirion said:


Just because right-wing people are always so happy and joyful :p
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That is quite a sweet story actually, when you watch it fully to the end. The shock jock hosts did play on people's natural concern about things like rising crime, however even if there were no limbaughs or fox tv, I'd still object to govt and liberals changing society for the worse.

By march this year there'd already been 100 homicides in the uk for 2019, something has gone seriously wrong in our society, the left have no solutions. We've had left wing/liberal government for the last 30 years and the result is: we're in a bigger mess than 30 years ago.
 
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slotplayer said:
Head over to you tube and query Sweden gender neutrality.
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I did read up on it.
The aim is to have the early stages of school be more gender neutral.
Basically its about encouraging kids to try different things, and not just shove girls into a room with dolls and boys onto the soccerfield.
Its not like they are gonna force the kids into doing stuff they dont want, just encourage them to try things outside the "gendernorms" or how i should call it.


There is however ONE crazy school where as you said, they more or less will teach the kid to be genderless.
Im guessing you have taken that crazy school and enterpreted it as a thing that would happen on all schools in sweden, wich is not the case.
And im guessing if i spent 2 minutes on google i could cherrypick equally or more crazy schools from Usa.

It does not matter wich side you are on politically, because both sides are equally good at doing shit like this.
Misinforming.
If you do not beleive me, the swedish schoolplan is accessable online, and i can link it for you if you want to read for yourself.

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<---- Straight from the source without someone trying to make an angle in either direction.
 
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Kroffe said:
I did read up on it.
The aim is to have the early stages of school be more gender neutral.
Basically its about encouraging kids to try different things, and not just shove girls into a room with dolls and boys onto the soccerfield.
Its not like they are gonna force the kids into doing stuff they dont want, just encourage them to try things outside the "gendernorms" or how i should call it.


There is however ONE crazy school where as you said, they more or less will teach the kid to be genderless.
Im guessing you have taken that crazy school and enterpreted it as a thing that would happen on all schools in sweden, wich is not the case.
And im guessing if i spent 2 minutes on google i could cherrypick equally or more crazy schools from Usa.

It does not matter wich side you are on politically, because both sides are equally good at doing shit like this.
Misinforming.
If you do not beleive me, the swedish schoolplan is accessable online, and i can link it for you if you want to read for yourself.

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
<---- Straight from the source without someone trying to make an angle in either direction.
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When I don't want to reveal gender when posting in the forum, I simple use the pronoun "they". Why change the pronouns?

 
slotplayer said:
When I don't want to reveal gender when posting in the forum, I simple use the pronoun "they". Why change the pronouns?

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Ah, the old "i got proven wrong, so lets change topics"
Its a bold move, lets see what the judges say.

asdas.webp


Pretty low scores all around im sorry.

And to answer your new question, the pronouns have not changed, some genderequality-nut with to much freetime just came up with a new one.
I dont have any numbers on it, but i personally have never heard anyone use the pronoun "hen" except when talking about how stupid it is.


My turn to ask a question:
Did you actually read the Swedish schoolplan and figure out you were wrong, or do you not bother when your youtubeinformation is met with facts? Im wondering since you changed the topic instead of acknowledging my last post.
 
mack341 said:
'when a fellow limbaugh fan introduced him to fox news' :laugh:

So he was essentially cured of this right wing blight by the radio breaking...that was truly a holy miracle...

I couldn't listen to limbaugh, glenn beck or hannity too much it would give me indigestion, tucker is different, he's not a bigoted oaf but a realist or pragmatist. What should have accompanied that vid are the rising crime and poverty stats for the decade(s) during the time her dad gradually became more right wing.

You can have a left agenda and want a better deal for the american have nots, but leave it at that, don't try and increase the number of have nots by adding millions of more immigrants into the mix...america's already got one of the most diverse societies on earth, a lack of diversity is not it's major one problem...when's that penny gonna drop for the sjw's and radicals?
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I agree that Tucker is different. He doesn't do it so directly like Hannity and fellows. He is smarter about it...he just inserts these little brainwashing things here and there. Like he sounds more reasonable...but when you listen closely enough you'd see that he's about as hateful as these louder yelling people like Hannity, Ingraham. If he didn't insert constant hate against democrats to his show then yeah could have a debate about his views.

But yeah it's pretty hard to solve things...like a divided nation when right-wing people are so angry about everything and Trump keeps adding fuel to the fire. Like calling the press the enemy of the people...democrats trying to destroy the america...invasion of brown people..."go back where you came from"...and now attacking Baltimore. Before that it was Chicago he attacked I guess. Of course nation is divided when you have that kind of president. I don't think those kind of things can be solved while Trump is the president.
 
vorcirion said:
I agree that Tucker is different. He doesn't do it so directly like Hannity and fellows. He is smarter about it...he just inserts these little brainwashing things here and there. Like he sounds more reasonable...but when you listen closely enough you'd see that he's about as hateful as these louder yelling people like Hannity, Ingraham. If he didn't insert constant hate against democrats to his show then yeah could have a debate about his views.

But yeah it's pretty hard to solve things...like a divided nation when right-wing people are so angry about everything and Trump keeps adding fuel to the fire. Like calling the press the enemy of the people...democrats trying to destroy the america...invasion of brown people..."go back where you came from"...and now attacking Baltimore. Before that it was Chicago he attacked I guess. Of course nation is divided when you have that kind of president. I don't think those kind of things can be solved while Trump is the president.
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I just posted a vid a few posts back where he gives warren some credit for her economic policies. In many ways the press are the enemy of the people, have you forgotten their 24/7 parroting of lies in the lead up to the iraq war? Don't brush that aside either as history or a small misdemeanour, it was blatant and calculated. Nothing has changed, they'd love an armed conflict now with iran, but the public mood or appetite wasn't there.

You just had 8 years of democratic govt under Obama [not you personally you're in finland ] and he made no headway into those problems.

I watched an aljazeera doc on baltimore, which apparently won awards, the other night, and they did an update to coincide with the end of obama's presidency, the locals in the know said obama didn't change anything. Nothing will change in the poor areas while large amounts of drugs can cross that border with south and central america, on top of that more employment opportunities, manufacturing etc..

Open borders are not going to solve baltimore, detroit etc.. and there's only so much money in the government's pot to regenerate areas.

If you take somewhere like new hampshire and compare it to baltimore, you couldn't get a bigger divide in quality of life. The challenge for the dems is to raise the quality of life in places like baltimore, gonna need to reduce crime by about 80% first, how to do that is the problem they need to solve, not how many more millions of poor people can be helped to enter the country. US population 281 million in 2000, 329 million today, a 48 million increase, almost 9 finlands, and you want that to increase further, to what end?
 
Have we heard any decent plan from either the dems or the gop or anyone else for that matter to solve illegal immigration? It seems insurmountable and unsolvable.

Maybe we should have stopped selling ourselves as the best country in the world all these years.
 
mack341 said:
I just posted a vid a few posts back where he gives warren some credit for her economic policies. In many ways the press are the enemy of the people, have you forgotten their 24/7 parroting of lies in the lead up to the iraq war? Don't brush that aside either as history or a small misdemeanour, it was blatant and calculated. Nothing has changed, they'd love an armed conflict now with iran, but the public mood or appetite wasn't there.

You just had 8 years of democratic govt under Obama [not you personally you're in finland ] and he made no headway into those problems.

I watched an aljazeera doc on baltimore, which apparently won awards, the other night, and they did an update to coincide with the end of obama's presidency, the locals in the know said obama didn't change anything. Nothing will change in the poor areas while large amounts of drugs can cross that border with south and central america, on top of that more employment opportunities, manufacturing etc..

Open borders are not going to solve baltimore, detroit etc.. and there's only so much money in the government's pot to regenerate areas.

If you take somewhere like new hampshire and compare it to baltimore, you couldn't get a bigger divide in quality of life. The challenge for the dems is to raise the quality of life in places like baltimore, gonna need to reduce crime by about 80% first, how to do that is the problem they need to solve, not how many more millions of poor people can be helped to enter the country. US population 281 million in 2000, 329 million today, a 48 million increase, almost 9 finlands, and you want that to increase further, to what end?
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The poverty rate in Kentucky (17.2%) is higher than that in Cummings' district. You know who represents the state of KY?
baltimore is a city within the state of Maryland and New Hampshire is a state. Apples and oranges comparison.


As for the msm parroting lies before Iraqi war....if that’s what you are fed...what else will you repeat...asked point blank if they had found weapons of mass destruction they all said yes...and for that lie that cost thousand of lives...that entire administration should go to jail...rove, Cheney, Bush....but nope...
 
mack341 said:
I just posted a vid a few posts back where he gives warren some credit for her economic policies. In many ways the press are the enemy of the people, have you forgotten their 24/7 parroting of lies in the lead up to the iraq war? Don't brush that aside either as history or a small misdemeanour, it was blatant and calculated. Nothing has changed, they'd love an armed conflict now with iran, but the public mood or appetite wasn't there.

You just had 8 years of democratic govt under Obama [not you personally you're in finland ] and he made no headway into those problems.

I watched an aljazeera doc on baltimore, which apparently won awards, the other night, and they did an update to coincide with the end of obama's presidency, the locals in the know said obama didn't change anything. Nothing will change in the poor areas while large amounts of drugs can cross that border with south and central america, on top of that more employment opportunities, manufacturing etc..

Open borders are not going to solve baltimore, detroit etc.. and there's only so much money in the government's pot to regenerate areas.

If you take somewhere like new hampshire and compare it to baltimore, you couldn't get a bigger divide in quality of life. The challenge for the dems is to raise the quality of life in places like baltimore, gonna need to reduce crime by about 80% first, how to do that is the problem they need to solve, not how many more millions of poor people can be helped to enter the country. US population 281 million in 2000, 329 million today, a 48 million increase, almost 9 finlands, and you want that to increase further, to what end?
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It was up to US government to give those details to the press (concerning Iraq). It was the US government who lied...how can msm know that? Or are you saying that msm knew those were lies and told people anyway? But yeah because of that now people (especially in Europe) are questioning if US is telling the truth when it comes to Iran. It's really hard to trust their government especially when they have always lying president and couple of war mongering people leading the effort in Iran.
And at least in msnbc there were couple of hosts having their doubts if Trump's government was telling the truth.
 
Steviedoo said:
The poverty rate in Kentucky (17.2%) is higher than that in Cummings' district. You know who represents the state of KY?
baltimore is a city within the state of Maryland and New Hampshire is a state. Apples and oranges comparison.


As for the msm parroting lies before Iraqi war....if that’s what you are fed...what else will you repeat...asked point blank if they had found weapons of mass destruction they all said yes...and for that lie that cost thousand of lives...that entire administration should go to jail...rove, Cheney, Bush....but nope...
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:confused: well take a city in new hampshire if there is one, [or if not a large town] and compare it to baltimore, I'm sure my point stands up pretty well...unless everywhere is like baltimore?

So in your eyes that's all the msm are there to do, pump out whatever info the government gives them?

I must've missed the finding of wmd, or are you saying subsequent to the invasion, the hawks and generals said they did find them and the press never challenged that either?
 
vorcirion said:
It was up to US government to give those details to the press (concerning Iraq). It was the US government who lied...how can msm know that? Or are you saying that msm knew those were lies and told people anyway? But yeah because of that now people (especially in Europe) are questioning if US is telling the truth when it comes to Iran. It's really hard to trust their government especially when they have always lying president and couple of war mongering people leading the effort in Iran.
And at least in msnbc there were couple of hosts having their doubts if Trump's government was telling the truth.
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Yeah but it was half hearted, they know the public is war weary and likely more suspicious of the govt, so the msm can't beat the war drum as loudly as before, but be in no doubt they were beating it, and the drums were beating for it here too, in the uk.

Tucker was clearly and strongly against the conflict but others at fox were annoyed that trump cancelled the strikes. Tulsi gabbard, one of the few, strongly anti war dem candidates is sidelined by the msm, she got the least amount of time in the last debate and apparently was the only one attacked by the moderators.

If the msm are so honest and just victims of govt lies, you have to question why they choose to alienate someone like tulsi, an ethnic minority female?

 
mack341 said:
Yeah but it was half hearted, they know the public is war weary and likely more suspicious of the govt, so the msm can't beat the war drum as loudly as before, but be in no doubt they were beating it, and the drums were beating for it here too, in the uk.

Tucker was clearly and strongly against the conflict but others at fox were annoyed that trump cancelled the strikes. Tulsi gabbard, one of the few, strongly anti war dem candidates is sidelined by the msm, she got the least amount of time in the last debate and apparently was the only one attacked by the moderators.

If the msm are so honest and just victims of govt lies, you have to question why they choose to alienate someone like tulsi, an ethnic minority female?

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She had 6,5mins same with John Delaney. More than Blasio and Inslee. She never performed well in the polls. How was she attacked in the debate?
But yeah she did really well in the debate imo.
 
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vorcirion said:
She had 6,5mins same with John Delaney. More than Blasio and Insilee. She never performed well in the polls. How was she attacked in the debate?
But yeah she did really well in the debate imo.
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Not sure, but in that vid I posted, Tuck said she was the only candidate who was personally basically attacked by the moderator, something must have gone down...
Rand paul gets attacked for also being anti war..that's the thing with this liberal left media, they like war. Hillary was after all their favourite candidate last time round, and there aren't many more hawkish than her.
 
mack341 said:
Not sure, but in that vid I posted, Tuck said she was the only candidate who was personally basically attacked by the moderator, something must have gone down...
Rand paul gets attacked for also being anti war..that's the thing with this liberal left media, they like war. Hillary was after all their favourite candidate last time round, and there aren't many more hawkish than her.
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Oh well since Tucker says it...it must be true! Like what the hell? How about you find out how Gabbard was attacked and don't bring me that crap that Tucker feeds you.
 
Kroffe said:
Ah, the old "i got proven wrong, so lets change topics"
Its a bold move, lets see what the judges say.

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Pretty low scores all around im sorry.

And to answer your new question, the pronouns have not changed, some genderequality-nut with to much freetime just came up with a new one.
I dont have any numbers on it, but i personally have never heard anyone use the pronoun "hen" except when talking about how stupid it is.


My turn to ask a question:
Did you actually read the Swedish schoolplan and figure out you were wrong, or do you not bother when your youtubeinformation is met with facts? Im wondering since you changed the topic instead of acknowledging my last post.
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I did look at it briefly but it was too humid here to take a thorough look. I'll look again at some point.

My impression (from your post) was you were trying to sugar coat or play it down by saying it was just one odd-ball school messing with gender and I posted the gender-nouns video to show that perhaps it was more widespread than you're letting on.

You're actually using the same argument now by saying its just "some genderequality-nut with to much freetime just came up with a new one".

I only go by what the media reports but I have no problem with anyone setting the record straight. I do it all the time with misconceptions of America.
 
Steviedoo said:
The poverty rate in Kentucky (17.2%) is higher than that in Cummings' district. You know who represents the state of KY?
baltimore is a city within the state of Maryland and New Hampshire is a state. Apples and oranges comparison.


As for the msm parroting lies before Iraqi war....if that’s what you are fed...what else will you repeat...asked point blank if they had found weapons of mass destruction they all said yes...and for that lie that cost thousand of lives...that entire administration should go to jail...rove, Cheney, Bush....but nope...
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KY is a state to, right? You're comparing the state of KY to Baltimore (a city) to make an argument but then say its apples to oranges to compare baltimore to NH. You see the contradiction?
 
slotplayer said:
I did look at it briefly but it was too humid here to take a thorough look. I'll look again at some point.

My impression (from your post) was you were trying to sugar coat or play it down by saying it was just one odd-ball school messing with gender and I posted the gender-nouns video to show that perhaps it was more widespread than you're letting on.

You're actually using the same argument now by saying its just "some genderequality-nut with to much freetime just came up with a new one".

I only go by what the media reports but I have no problem with anyone setting the record straight. I do it all the time with misconceptions of America.
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Well there is no need to downlplay anything.
And its not like the word "hen" is a new thing here in sweden, it was officially added 2015, and most articles&debate about it took place 2014 before it was added.
I agree that it is not needed, but saying it has something to do with brainwashing kids is way out of line, and not based on any facts whatsoever.

And also, i feel like the advicet they give you when flying also applies here "Help yourself before helping others".
Instead of trying to save swedish kids from learning new words, maybe you should focus on your own schoolsystem.
I made an example below of what i mean.

Person: Hey, i would like one education please!
College: Alrighty, are you good at carrying around that eggshaped thing we call a ball?
Person: Uh, not really, i just want to learn stuff.
College: Oh ok. That will cost you lifelong debt then.
Person: That hardly seems fair...
College: Oh, dont worry about it, you have a decent chance of getting shot before graduating.
 
Kroffe said:
Well there is no need to downlplay anything.
And its not like the word "hen" is a new thing here in sweden, it was officially added 2015, and most articles&debate about it took place 2014 before it was added.
I agree that it is not needed, but saying it has something to do with brainwashing kids is way out of line, and not based on any facts whatsoever.

And also, i feel like the advicet they give you when flying also applies here "Help yourself before helping others".
Instead of trying to save swedish kids from learning new words, maybe you should focus on your own schoolsystem.
I made an example below of what i mean.

Person: Hey, i would like one education please!
College: Alrighty, are you good at carrying around that eggshaped thing we call a ball?
Person: Uh, not really, i just want to learn stuff.
College: Oh ok. That will cost you lifelong debt then.
Person: That hardly seems fair...
College: Oh, dont worry about it, you have a decent chance of getting shot before graduating.
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I just don't want it to spread here like the progressives want.
 
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