North Korea and US politics

[dionysus]

Will, probably seem like a rant (but well, tis the political rant section and it's in the bloody title)

What? There isn't a clever man, or woman, of an age, in an age of real-world understanding, lived, breathed, understands the world at large, and can somewhat navigate politics whilst making changes to thrust forward to a new dawn/day?

This isnt radical PC or liberal
This is saying...can we actually just, if not make a better world, then meet somewhere in the middle, to TRY to become better?


I was, all my life an optimist
More recently, a pragmatist.

I'd hate to be a 'realist' then a 'pessimist'

We CAN just be.....good, no?

I'm hoping

 

[Harry_BKK]

the entire thing is a shit-show of a joke
and the people end of day, lose no matter the outcome

This could be seen coming and there are still weeks to go.

 

[dionysus]

This could be seen coming and there are still weeks to go.

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oh tbf, some saw it coming many, many moons ago

 

[dionysus]

I wont, at all, be surprised, to see a civil war in my lifetime

 

[Harry_BKK]

Another wet dream of Mr T and his cult evaporating in thin air. The drama they made about was simply hilarious.

"the biggest thing since Watergate" apparently. And every time they then close the investigations quietly. Yet their announcement was shouted so loud that it could be heard as far as the moon.

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[ladyhawke]

I was, all my life an optimist
More recently, a pragmatist.

I'd hate to be a 'realist' then a 'pessimist'

Regrettably, I have morphed from a 'realist' into a 'pessimist', and it is not just due to what is happening in the USA.

The world is spiralling out-of-control on a chaotic, regressive path towards intolerance, bigotry and fanaticism, aided and abetted by Social Media, Twitter, 'Influencers', an obsession with physical beauty and fitness, the Cancel Culture.....the list goes on and on.

No wonder so many people are on the "Stop the World! I want to get off!" train.

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There is now talk that Barr will soon be kicked out of Trump's Administration, as he has failed to deliver any indictments, despite Trump's heavy-handed threats.

 

[ternur]

I truly despair for the world of future generations

optimist
pragmatist
realist
pessimist

"Stop the World! I want to get off!"

G.W.F. HEGEL said:

But what experience and history teach is this — that peoples and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it. Each period is involved in such peculiar circumstances, exhibits a condition of things so strictly idiosyncratic, that its conduct must be regulated by considerations connected with itself, and itself alone.

 

[Kroffe]

 

[geordiecolin]

Allen Harrow Parrot may be a name that could become very familiar in the near future

 

[Harry_BKK]

Mexico will pay for the wall 2.0

2nd video.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Allen Harrow Parrot may be a name that could become very familiar in the near future

"President Donald Trump shared a conspiracy theory that falsely claims the Obama administration ordered Navy SEALs to be killed in order to cover up a failed deal with Iran to stage the death of Osama bin Laden."



Saw one of the SEAL team members who were involved in catching and killing Bin Laden (and a Trump voter) confirming on Twitter there was no staging involved. Another QAnon-crazies conspiracy theory...

Don't believe everything Trump tells you Colin, wake up and think for yourself

EDIT: this is the tweet of that team member

 

[geordiecolin]

"President Donald Trump shared a conspiracy theory that falsely claims the Obama administration ordered Navy SEALs to be killed in order to cover up a failed deal with Iran to stage the death of Osama bin Laden."



Saw one of the SEAL team members who were involved in catching and killing Bin Laden (and a Trump voter) confirming on Twitter there was no staging involved. Another QAnon-crazies conspiracy theory...

Don't believe everything Trump tells you Colin, wake up and think for yourself

EDIT: this is the tweet of that team member

Thinking for yourself is the very last thing that you could be accused of.

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[sufferinsilence]

Thinking for yourself is the very last thing that you could be accused of.

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Sheepishly following QAnon isn't exactly thinking for yourself either. It's not like you are discovering this all by yourself, it's fed to you by alternative media and anonymous accounts that claim to have insider knowledge.

Not saying the mainstream media isn't full of bullshit alot of the time, just pointing out that following alternative sources and retweeting it or posting it on a forum followed by "wake up folks, do your own research" is also some serious bullshit.

 

[geordiecolin]

Sheepishly following QAnon isn't exactly thinking for yourself either. It's not like you are discovering this all by yourself, it's fed to you by alternative media and anonymous accounts that claim to have insider knowledge.

Not saying the mainstream media isn't full of bullshit alot of the time, just pointing out that following alternative sources and retweeting it or posting it on a forum followed by "wake up folks, do your own research" is also some serious bullshit.

I never visit Qanon and I am not a trumpster

 

[Harry_BKK]

Sheepishly following QAnon isn't exactly thinking for yourself either. It's not like you are discovering this all by yourself, it's fed to you by alternative media and anonymous accounts that claim to have insider knowledge.

Not saying the mainstream media isn't full of bullshit alot of the time, just pointing out that following alternative sources and retweeting it or posting it on a forum followed by "wake up folks, do your own research" is also some serious bullshit.

Not too anonymous, still fringe as fringe can get and as much alternative reality as there can be .

Hint - they are part of the MAGA cult.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I never visit Qanon and I am not a trumpster

Weirdly you're quoting the same sources. I'm fine with that but I don't believe you don't atleast follow them.

I follow Trump on Twitter and if you dive in the comments you easily find the QAnon accounts where you find the links you post here. I even stroll through the various Proud Boys and Antifa Telegram channels sometimes. I'm fine with admitting that, there's no shame in following both sides and making up your own mind.

 

[Kroffe]

I only watch news that has "real" in the name.
That way i know its not fake.

Also, as a kid i kind of wanted to be part of the Transformers, and for that you need to watch real news.

 

[geordiecolin]

Weirdly you're quoting the same sources. I'm fine with that but I don't believe you don't atleast follow them.

I follow Trump on Twitter and if you dive in the comments you easily find the QAnon accounts where you find the links you post here. I even stroll through the various Proud Boys and Antifa Telegram channels sometimes. I'm fine with admitting that, there's no shame in following both sides and making up your own mind.

That is one of your problems and a problem with many in this thread that are Trump haters.You blindly believe than anyone who has the audacity to post something you do not want to see or say something you don't want to read they are automatically worthy of insult and attack. You have even called me a lier.
I never use twitter either as it goes.
So what exactly do you have issue with in me posting " Allen Harrow Parrot may be a name that could become very familiar in the near future" ?

 

[vorcirion]

That is one of your problems and a problem with many in this thread that are Trump haters.You blindly believe than anyone who has the audacity to post something you do not want to see or say something you don't want to read they are automatically worthy of insult and attack. You have even called me a lier.
I never use twitter either as it goes.
So what exactly do you have issue with in me posting " Allen Harrow Parrot may be a name that could become very familiar in the near future" ?

Where do you find these things like Allen Harrow Parrot?

 

[Kroffe]

Never knew you could upload videos to imgur.
How cool is that.

Not as cool as the "Jesus lizard" but still pretty cool.

 

[geordiecolin]

Where do you find these things like Allen Harrow Parrot?

On the internet

 

[sufferinsilence]

That is one of your problems and a problem with many in this thread that are Trump haters.You blindly believe than anyone who has the audacity to post something you do not want to see or say something you don't want to read they are automatically worthy of insult and attack. You have even called me a lier.
I never use twitter either as it goes.
So what exactly do you have issue with in me posting " Allen Harrow Parrot may be a name that could become very familiar in the near future" ?

Why do you think I have an issue with it? This is a public forum, I don't have an issue with you posting anything. But this being a forum and a discussion thread means I can reply with my opinion as well.

I didn't call you a liar, I simply said you didn't discover this news. Someone else did and you copypasted it because you think it's true or atleast worthy of posting. There's a difference.

 

[geordiecolin]

Why do you think I have an issue with it? This is a public forum, I don't have an issue with you posting anything. But this being a forum and a discussion thread means I can reply with my opinion as well.

I didn't call you a liar, I simply said you didn't discover this news. Someone else did and you copypasted it because you think it's true or atleast worthy of posting. There's a difference.

Don't believe everything Trump tells you Colin, wake up and think for yourself

The video that I posted is the original source.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Don't believe everything Trump tells you Colin, wake up and think for yourself

The video that I posted is the original source.

Sure it's the original source but it's still a report brought to you by a media source, albeit "alternative", which you chose to believe. So you decided for yourself this is the true narrative, not what anyone else is going to tell you.

Trump (re)tweeted about this.

Like I said there's no shame in it. Just don't expect everyone to be on board or discussing it. Lately it seems people are easily offended.

 

[vorcirion]

On the internet

From where there exactly? There's a lot of stuff there

 

[geordiecolin]

From where there exactly? There's a lot of stuff there

I get my info from very many different places just like most people who do not rely solely on google,twitter,facebook,Youtube and fact checker sites

 

[geordiecolin]

Sure it's the original source but it's still a report brought to you by a media source, albeit "alternative", which you chose to believe. So you decided for yourself this is the true narrative, not what anyone else is going to tell you.

Trump (re)tweeted about this.

Like I said there's no shame in it. Just don't expect everyone to be on board or discussing it. Lately it seems people are easily offended.

Why do you say I choose to believe? And FYI I would never be offended by anything posted to me in this thread

 

[vorcirion]

I get my info from very many different places just like most people who do not rely solely on google,twitter,facebook,Youtube and factchecker sites

What's wrong with revealing where you got this specific info? Are you trying to hide something?

 

[geordiecolin]

What's wrong with revealing where you got this specific info? Are you trying to hide something?

How big a list are you suggesting I post?

 

[vorcirion]

How big a list are you suggesting I post?

As big list as you like. I'm curious where you get your information from.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Why do you say I choose to believe? And FYI I would never be offended by anything posted to me in this thread

Because a former Navy SEAL involved in the operation to bring down Osama Bin Laden has tweeted that they killed the REAL Bin Laden, not a body double.

Do you believe him?

 

[geordiecolin]

As big list as you like. I'm curious where you get your information from.

I am not in the least bit interested in where you get yours from.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I am not in the least bit interested in where you get yours from.

You have to get it somewhere, even if you check all the websites everyday yourself

 

[geordiecolin]

Because a former Navy SEAL involved in the operation to bring down Osama Bin Laden has tweeted that they killed the REAL Bin Laden, not a body double.

Do you believe him?

I believe that there are many questions to be answered and that-if you had watched the video that I posted you would of noticed- They are promising audio,video and documented proof of wrong doing.
Given the gravity of the new accusations my post was a very valid one given what this thread has became.

Your response to it was a one of huge presumptions

 

[vorcirion]

I am not in the least bit interested in where you get yours from.

You're really hiding something. I guess you know your sources are extremely unreliable and don't want to embarrass yourself.

 

[geordiecolin]

You're really hiding something. I guess you know your sources are extremely unreliable and don't want to embarrass yourself.

Your requests for where I get my info from is very childish. How far back in my casinomeister history would you like me to delve into in search of all of my sources of info?
For the record I found the link to the original source for that last vid I posted from that damn hub of misinformation called youtube

 

[sufferinsilence]

I believe that there are many questions to be answered and that-if you had watched the video that I posted you would of noticed- They are promising audio,video and documented proof of wrong doing.
Given the gravity of the new accusations my post was a very valid one given what this thread has became.

Your response to it was a one of huge presumptions

I'm looking forward to when you post the follow-ups.

 

[Kroffe]

Youtube is not a hub of misinformation.
Its full of cooking videos and nature documentaries.

Also real news like this.



Some would say its grasping at straws.
But they dont know.

 

[geordiecolin]

I'm looking forward to when you post the follow-ups.

You presume way too much

 

[dionysus]

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[sufferinsilence]

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Why do you think all these "bombshells" all of a sudden are turning up? It's not rocket science...

 

[mack341]

This parrot man looks like the sort I can imagine working for the CIA, the falconer thing seems too wacky to be 100% not part of his cover story, perhaps in order to justify moving around the ME?

My two questions to the instant naysayers would be:

Do you think this parrot man has no connection to the CIA etc.. and is just an eccentric falconer?

Did you believe we were told the 100% truth about the US searching for Bin laden for years, and all the while he was in pakistan unbeknown to them ?

 

[sufferinsilence]

This parrot man looks like the sort I can imagine working for the CIA, the falconer thing seems too wacky to be 100% not part of his cover story, perhaps in order to justify moving around the ME?

My two questions to the instant naysayers would be:

Do you think this parrot man has no connection to the CIA etc.. and is just an eccentric falconer?

Did you believe we were told the 100% truth about the US searching for Bin laden for years, and all the while he was in pakistan unbeknown to them ?

Apparently we're getting audio and video proof soon. I'm looking forward to that before forming my opinion about these people.

But then again, everything can be faked. We'll see.

 

[sufferinsilence]

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I'm watching the Trump Town Hall.

Because it'll be funnier.

 

[Kroffe]

Imo none of you guys have any clue whats going on.
What is news written on?
Paper, right?
And what is paper if not a flattened tree.
So to truly understand the news, one must study the trees, or better yet, the secret life of trees.

Wake up sheep!!

 

[sufferinsilence]

Imo none of you guys have any clue whats going on.
What is news written on?
Paper, right?
And what is paper if not a flattened tree.
So to truly understand the news, one must study the trees, or better yet, the secret life of trees.

Wake up sheep!!

It's sheeple

 

[Harry_BKK]

One thing the MAGA cult is really good at - exposing their own lies because they are never able to stick one phoney story. They always change them, always, without fail.

Hilarious!

 

[Harry_BKK]

This parrot man looks like the sort I can imagine working for the CIA, the falconer thing seems too wacky to be 100% not part of his cover story, perhaps in order to justify moving around the ME?

My two questions to the instant naysayers would be:

Do you think this parrot man has no connection to the CIA etc.. and is just an eccentric falconer?

Did you believe we were told the 100% truth about the US searching for Bin laden for years, and all the while he was in pakistan unbeknown to them ?

Going into LALA land again mack? This story must have you electrified, the perfect conspiracy theory.

Here's the story behind the falconer, the mysterious Allan Harrow Parrot Colin parroted so perfectly.

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Hint for the rating: PANTS ON FIRE!

 

[Kroffe]

It's sheeple

Thats what they want you to think.
The trees dont lie Suffer.

 

[geordiecolin]