North Korea and US politics

[Harry_BKK]

Trump clearly saw this as an attempt to influence the 2020 election, hence his strong reation. I have not fallen for anything as I've already said I don't know how effective this EO is, I read it and it doesn't seem to address the issue trump is concerned about, his tweets being meddled with.

More possibly a threat to their business model by opening them up to being sued.

It's probably all he could do, and it might galvanise voters again to support him, the majority of the public don't want more censorship and thought control, it's happening with the covid-19 too, videos and comments deleted.

Could turn out to be a majorly stupid decision by twitter, not elders just virtue signallers and hipsters, they were getting away with political bias and now it's going to come under the microscope, unless biden wins and then this is all buried.

Bollocks mate.

He's scared of losing and will use anything and everything to cheat his way to a second term. His tweets were not suppressed, they were marked, so that "influence in the election" argument is moot.

As for Mueller: “If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”

 

[mack341]

Bollocks mate.

He's scared of losing and will use anything and everything to cheat his way to a second term. His tweets were not suppressed, they were marked, so that "influence in the election" argument is moot.

As for Mueller: “If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”

Mueller got stick at the time for that, imagine a court of law taking that approach, it should be "innocent until proven guilty" not the oposite, democrat deep state style "guilty until proved innocent"

And his performance in the testimony was disappointing to democrats, this guy looked into trump on an unheralded level, on top of all the spying and surveillance, and still came up with nothing to prosecute him on. And yet that means nothing to some people, you say 'bollocks' to my post, but the whole idea trump colluded with russia [knowingly] was bollocks

 

[mack341]

Unbelievable way to carry on, trump is right it's a disgrace this is being done in floyd's name or on the back of his murder:

 

[vorcirion]

Unbelievable way to carry on, trump is right it's a disgrace this is being done in floyd's name or on the back of his murder:

Imagine it from black people's point of view. They are being hunted by white people/police and nothing is being done about it. Pretty sure Trump hasn't said anything about it during his presidency...just the standard republican response: "thoughts and prayers". There comes a breaking point and bad things will happen. Doesn't help when you have a racist as a president.

 

[Mouche12]

Remember Rodney King in the '90ies, and he wasn't even killed. At some point, minorities that are targeted by the police and have to fear for their lives will revolt. You can't even sit peacefully in your own home (Botham Jean) cause some (off duty) police officer might accidentally stumble into your apartment and pull the trigger. And there are many, many more of these horrifying stories.

 

[cncas2123]

And all the time I am wondering which bit of all this is making America great again? After all, thats what he told us he was going to do, so how does regressing to a regime akin to Germany in the early 1930's actually contribute to his mantra of MAGA?

 

[mack341]

Imagine it from black people's point of view. They are being hunted by white people/police and nothing is being done about it. Pretty sure Trump hasn't said anything about it during his presidency...just the standard republican response: "thoughts and prayers". There comes a breaking point and bad things will happen. Doesn't help when you have a racist as a president.

According to tucker on this segment, Non white police officers kill more non white people than white officers do, and more white people are killed in total than non white.





Your solution I'm guessing is to vote out trump and the republicans, so in all the democrat (with their liberal politically correct policies) run states, with democrat governers and congressmen, black mayors or police chiefs etc..what happens, peace and justice?

Plenty of black countries also have very tough, brutal policing, like jamaica, they kill lots of people/suspects

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[guardian]

so if it's always about race and white people hunting black people as you claim, how does this work out elsewhere.

Also I remember reading about finland on wikipedia and something about the sami people, are they discriminated against by your govts? [and your politicians are very liberal compared to trump]

 

[Mouche12]

Statements like non-white police officers shoot more non-white people than white police officers mean nothing without further clarification. Were these people armed and dangerous, what are the exact circumstances surrounding their arrests, etc.

 

[vorcirion]

According to tucker on this segment, Non white police officers kill more non white people than white officers do, and more white people are killed in total than non white.





Your solution I'm guessing is to vote out trump and the republicans, so in all the democrat (with their liberal politically correct policies) run states, with democrat governers and congressmen, black mayors or police chiefs etc..what happens, peace and justice?

Plenty of black countries also have very tough, brutal policing, like jamaica, they kill lots of people/suspects

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[guardian]

so if it's always about race and white people hunting black people as you claim, how does this work out elsewhere.

Also I remember reading about finland on wikipedia and something about the sami people, are they discriminated against by your govts? [and your politicians are very liberal compared to trump]

Tucker just forgets to mention that there are also a lot more white people in the US.

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I don't know what our government does with sami people. I think they are left alone doing their own things. But if you want to bring up something then please do.

 

[mack341]

Statements like non-white police officers shoot more non-white people than white police officers mean nothing without further clarification. Were these people armed and dangerous, what are the exact circumstances surrounding their arrests, etc.

He did say towards the end 'armed and unarmed'; statistics can be played with that is true but it probably means then isn't a wide chasm between the figures.

I'm sure there are some dodgy, trigger happy cops amongst the thousands of officers but not to the extent it's been politicised.

 

[cncas2123]

Tucker just forgets to mention that there are also a lot more white people in the US.

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I don't know what our government does with sami people. I think they are left alone doing their own things. But if you want to bring up something then please do.

Anybody trying to justify the shooting of people is as much a racist as Trump, its a sad person who will try and defend the indefensible.

 

[Kroffe]

Did ya know Tucker is a Trust-fund kid?
Dude pretends to be "one of the people" when hes literally among the 1%

Anyway, heres something more interesting!

 

[mack341]

I don't know what our government does with sami people. I think they are left alone doing their own things. But if you want to bring up something then please do.

That's a bit of a non response, according to wikipedia:

The Sámi have for centuries, even today, been the subject of discrimination and abuse by the dominant cultures claiming possession of their lands. [this is across sweden and norway too I suppose, both very liberal countries]

but

Even in Finland, where Sámi children, like all Finnish children, are entitled to day care and language instruction in their own language, the Finnish government has denied funding for these rights in most of the country, including even in Rovaniemi, the largest municipality in Finnish Lapland. Sámi activists have pushed for nationwide application of these basic rights

As in the other countries claiming sovereignty over Sámi lands, Sámi activists' efforts in Finland in the 20th century achieved limited government recognition of the Sámis' rights as a recognized minority, but the Finnish government has maintained its legally enforced premise that the Sámi must prove their land ownership, an idea incompatible with and antithetical to the traditional reindeer-herding Sámi way of life. This has effectively allowed the Finnish government to take without compensation, motivated by economic gain, land occupied by the Sámi for centuries

Sámi people have had very little representation in Finnish national politics. In fact, as of 2007, Janne Seurujärvi, a Finnish Centre Party representative, was the first Sámi ever to be elected to the Finnish Parliament

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If the above is true I am a bit surprised you don't seem very interested in this discriminated minority much closer to home

 

[mack341]

Did ya know Tucker is a Trust-fund kid?
Dude pretends to be "one of the people" when hes literally among the 1%

Anyway, heres something more interesting!

IIRC Tucker's dad or grandad had a tough start to life, brought up in an orphange, one of his young parents killed himself over it. Tucker may have enjoyed the privileges of a good private education but it was paid for by the hard work of his father not inherited wealth. He doesn't pretend to be anything as far as I can tell, he's middle class but would like a fairer deal for american workers etc..

 

[Kroffe]

IIRC Tucker's dad or grandad had a tough start to life, brought up in an orphange, one of his young parents killed himself over it. Tucker may have enjoyed the privileges of a good private education but it was paid for by the hard work of his father not inherited wealth. He doesn't pretend to be anything as far as I can tell, he's middle class but would like a fairer deal for american workers etc..

In what universe is a multi-millionaire middle class?
And when his parents croak he will probably inherit the Swanson food thingy.

Hes pretending to be an average joe speaking up against the "elite" that he himself is very much a part of.

 

[vorcirion]

That's a bit of a non response, according to wikipedia:

The Sámi have for centuries, even today, been the subject of discrimination and abuse by the dominant cultures claiming possession of their lands. [this is across sweden and norway too I suppose, both very liberal countries]

but

Even in Finland, where Sámi children, like all Finnish children, are entitled to day care and language instruction in their own language, the Finnish government has denied funding for these rights in most of the country, including even in Rovaniemi, the largest municipality in Finnish Lapland. Sámi activists have pushed for nationwide application of these basic rights

As in the other countries claiming sovereignty over Sámi lands, Sámi activists' efforts in Finland in the 20th century achieved limited government recognition of the Sámis' rights as a recognized minority, but the Finnish government has maintained its legally enforced premise that the Sámi must prove their land ownership, an idea incompatible with and antithetical to the traditional reindeer-herding Sámi way of life. This has effectively allowed the Finnish government to take without compensation, motivated by economic gain, land occupied by the Sámi for centuries

Sámi people have had very little representation in Finnish national politics. In fact, as of 2007, Janne Seurujärvi, a Finnish Centre Party representative, was the first Sámi ever to be elected to the Finnish Parliament

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If the above is true I am a bit surprised you don't seem very interested in this discriminated minority much closer to home

Yeah really compares with shooting unarmed black people. Not providing funding for day care in sami language...I mean basically the same thing right?

And sure Tucker is middle class with his silly $6milj. salary plus who knows what else he gets.

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Do you know how ridiculous you sound with these things?

 

[pinnit2014]

I thought middle class dom was having 4 or five holidays a year, a car without finance and not having to pay overdraft fees every month?

But it’s 20 million. Ooft; I’m just a few decent Bonanza sessions away.

Need more nature documentaries: mon Kroffe, combat this madness.

 

[Kroffe]

I thought middle class dom was having 4 or five holidays a year, a car without finance and not having to pay overdraft fees every month?

But it’s 20 million. Ooft; I’m just a few decent Bonanza sessions away.

Need more nature documentaries: mon Kroffe, combat this madness.

request from Tigger.

 

[pinnit2014]

request from Tigger.

That's a middle class Tiger: show me the hoi polloi ones; they've got bigger teeth

 

[Kroffe]

 

[Kroffe]

Why just tigers, when you can have LION-TIGERS!

 

[Harry_BKK]

The "I have total authority" barker just finished well, barking in the Rose Garden.

Lying and misstating facts again. The brazenness is truly astounding.

Mr T: Over 1 million died worldwide from the Wuhan virus (and he made sure to emphasize those two words)

Fact: Count as of 1 min ago 362,000.

He simply can speak five minutes without lying, even on national TV that is broadcast around the world.

 

[cncas2123]

The "I have total authority" barker just finished well, barking in the Rose Garden.

Lying and misstating facts again. The brazenness is truly astounding.

Mr T: Over 1 million died worldwide from the Wuhan virus (and he made sure to emphasize those two words)

Fact: Count as of 1 min ago 362,000.

He simply can speak five minutes without lying, even on national TV that is broadcast around the world.

Yip, the USA 104,000 and counting. So much for its only a few cases, we wont have any problems, it will just go away, we have this under control.......... do I need to add any more lies?

 

[vorcirion]

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Feels like Fox threw Trump under the bus They themselves were devoting plenty of time promoting HCQ.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Yip, the USA 104,000 and counting. So much for its only a few cases, we wont have any problems, it will just go, we have this under control.......... do I need to add any more lies?

Oh, the Chosen One can make miracles happen. Didn't you know that?

Found it really funny how he is trying to assert authority in the Minnesota case. He forgot or simply has no clue about a few things.

- he can't use the Military for law enforcement as he implies
- he can't even order the Army National Guard as those are under the governor's control and he would have to ask for permission.

Another addition to the "emperor with no clothes" fantasy tales of "I have total authorithy".

All can be found in 10 seconds on Google, yet he doesn't bother and no one in the WH actually informs him...damn'ed be the law when the manchild barks.

 

[cncas2123]

Oh, the Chosen One can make miracles happen. Didn't you know that?

Found it really funny how he is trying to assert authority in the Minnesota case.

- he can't use the Military for law enforcement as he implies
- he can't even order the Army National Guard as those are under the governor's control and he would have to ask for permission.

Another addition to the "emperor with no clothes" fantasy tales of "I have total authorithy".

All can be found in 10 seconds on Google, yet he doesn't bother and no one in the WH actually informs him...damn'ed be the law when the manchild barks.

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But you seem to forget, this is soundbite politics, its how Trump rolls, his supporters love it, they see the same old rhetoric and hang off every word.
But whatever you do don't ever bring the truth or the facts into it, its only true if Trump says its true and everything else is one of the unholy trinity of fake news, a Democratic conspiracy or the deep state.......

 

[sufferinsilence]

The "I have total authority" barker just finished well, barking in the Rose Garden.

Lying and misstating facts again. The brazenness is truly astounding.

Mr T: Over 1 million died worldwide from the Wuhan virus (and he made sure to emphasize those two words)

Fact: Count as of 1 min ago 362,000.

He simply can speak five minutes without lying, even on national TV that is broadcast around the world.

The "official" count is at 362000 but alot of countries didn't add people to the count who didn't die in the hospital. I'm not saying it's over 1 million but the number should probably be doubled. Excess death statistics have showed this already.

 

[mack341]

Yeah really compares with shooting unarmed black people. Not providing funding for day care in sami language...I mean basically the same thing right?

And sure Tucker is middle class with his silly $6milj. salary plus who knows what else he gets.

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Do you know how ridiculous you sound with these things?

It sounds to me like you don't care much at all about the Sami, you may think it's ridiculous but I doubt they do, language is inherent to their ancient culture surviving I would have thought, their land has been stolen too.

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Scandinavia, like many other regions of Europe, has faced a plethora of refugees from the Middle East seeking asylum and escaping persecution. While many in Scandinavia are welcoming of the refugees and as Scandinavia looks to a multicultural future with a heterogeneous population, one cannot help but notice the inherent hypocrisy in the history of Scandinavia in regards to the treatment of its own indigenous population, the Sami.

Discrimination against the Sami has increased in recent months in Scandinavia. In the preceding few months, large government projects have seized land from the Sami in order to build renewable energy projects and politicians have ignored concerns and protests from the Sami. Furthermore, racism and prejudice toward the Sami have risen as their voices continue to remain unheard

Finland recognized the Sami as their own people in 1995 but this hardly means anything since Finland is yet to ratify ILO Convention 169 Concerning Indigenous and Tribal Peoples. Also, Finland denied aboriginal and land rights to the Sami.

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Sounds similar to how the native americans were treated, also a forgotten people in many ways.

 

[mack341]

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about how VOX, known for being run by former Washington Post columnist Ezra Klein, published a “glowing” story by Matthew Yglesias, about Goldman Sachs without disclosing a substantial financial interest it had in the financial giant.

The article, titled, “Why Goldman Sachs just started offering savings accounts for the masses,” included such lines as “What Goldman Sachs has that other online banks don’t is a widely recognized brand name built on excellence in other dimensions of financial services that could help further push internet banking beyond the early adopter demographic.”

Though it flew under the radar of the mainstream media, to those paying attention, the piece revealed a disturbing decline for what began in 2014 as a promising new media outlet—a transformation into a source for neoliberal, pro-corporate propaganda disguised as left wing punditry, just two years after its inception.

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I think this explains why they want to attack tucker, unlike other journos he is willing to criticise the govt and the corporatocracy, truth is the truth it doesn't matter if he has some personal wealth, it actually gives him more room not to care about upsetting his bosses.

 

[Kroffe]

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Back in April, the watchdog group FAIR (Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting), put out

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about how VOX, known for being run by former Washington Post columnist Ezra Klein, published a “glowing” story by Matthew Yglesias, about Goldman Sachs without disclosing a substantial financial interest it had in the financial giant.

The article, titled, “Why Goldman Sachs just started offering savings accounts for the masses,” included such lines as “What Goldman Sachs has that other online banks don’t is a widely recognized brand name built on excellence in other dimensions of financial services that could help further push internet banking beyond the early adopter demographic.”

Though it flew under the radar of the mainstream media, to those paying attention, the piece revealed a disturbing decline for what began in 2014 as a promising new media outlet—a transformation into a source for neoliberal, pro-corporate propaganda disguised as left wing punditry, just two years after its inception.

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I think this explains why they want to attack tucker, unlike other journos he is willing to criticise the govt and the corporatocracy, truth is the truth it doesn't matter if he has some personal wealth, it actually gives him more room not to care about upsetting his bosses.

Like you say, truth is the truth.
Was anything from the Vox-clip not true?
Like any of the things Carlson said?

Fu*ker Carlson (jumping on the nickname train) is good at redirecting peoples anger away from people like himself.
And if you think that he gives a rats ass about the working class people just means that its working.

 

[vorcirion]

It sounds to me like you don't care much at all about the Sami, you may think it's ridiculous but I doubt they do, language is inherent to their ancient culture surviving I would have thought, their land has been stolen too.

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Scandinavia, like many other regions of Europe, has faced a plethora of refugees from the Middle East seeking asylum and escaping persecution. While many in Scandinavia are welcoming of the refugees and as Scandinavia looks to a multicultural future with a heterogeneous population, one cannot help but notice the inherent hypocrisy in the history of Scandinavia in regards to the treatment of its own indigenous population, the Sami.

Discrimination against the Sami has increased in recent months in Scandinavia. In the preceding few months, large government projects have seized land from the Sami in order to build renewable energy projects and politicians have ignored concerns and protests from the Sami. Furthermore, racism and prejudice toward the Sami have risen as their voices continue to remain unheard

Finland recognized the Sami as their own people in 1995 but this hardly means anything since Finland is yet to ratify ILO Convention 169 Concerning Indigenous and Tribal Peoples. Also, Finland denied aboriginal and land rights to the Sami.

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Sounds similar to how the native americans were treated, also a forgotten people in many ways.

Sure there can be improvements. At least we didn't kill them unlike native americans were killed.
How many people you killed with your colonialism? Slavery was fun and all? I assume you're from the UK.

You think that video about Tucker was fake? The one that Kroffe posted. Seems Tucker's tactics have worked on you at least.

 

[cncas2123]

The "official" count is at 362000 but alot of countries didn't add people to the count who didn't die in the hospital. I'm not saying it's over 1 million but the number should probably be doubled. Excess death statistics have showed this already.

I think there will be a big revision up when all the data rolls in from Covid-19 further down the line, and people will realise how destructive it was, but I think we will also realise it could have been so much worse without the various lock downs.

 

[ternur]

Also I remember reading about finland on wikipedia and something about the sami people, are they discriminated against by your govts? [and your politicians are very liberal compared to trump]

Yes, this is a problem and a shameful thing here. Sami are indigenous people of the Northern Scandinavia, including Finland. Their situation could be better, no doubt about that.

But we don't go hunting them or there is no excessive and systematic, direct violence by the police towards them.

Discrimination exist. In every country. Like @vorcirion pointed out, there are worse forms of discrimination and arrogance. Like colonialism. And slavery. And MAGA. And MUKGA. And systematic racism. And murder by police.

I have to admit Mack. That was pretty weak.

 

[mack341]

Like you say, truth is the truth.
Was anything from the Vox-clip not true?
Like any of the things Carlson said?

Fu*ker Carlson (jumping on the nickname train) is good at redirecting peoples anger away from people like himself.
And if you think that he gives a rats ass about the working class people just means that its working.

I don't know I only watched about half of it, up to the phone interview...I can't see how he can be A. part of the elite, B. redirecting anger away from himself C. criticising the elite the D. tricking the working class

The four cannot co-exist logically, if vox are saying his criticisms are not true, then okay but they seem to be saying from the title of the video, the criticisms are worthless and pretend because he is part of the elite.

It looks to me like a smokescreen, his criticisms are valid and they don't like it.

The other way would mean no highly paid tv personality can ever criticise the elite club they are part of, or gives a toss about average americans.

I think tucker has seen the decline in standards across life as anyone has born pre 1990 and blames the ruling class of the last 30 years, who are mainly liberal in outlook. What's the saying 'play the ball not the man' seems to me Vox are doing the opposite.

 

[paul7388]

See the thread is getting a little heated.

Time to go back to what it was originally about.

North Korean nature. YW

 

[sufferinsilence]

According to tucker on this segment, Non white police officers kill more non white people than white officers do, and more white people are killed in total than non white.

"In any given year, police kill more white suspects, armed and unarmed, than black suspects. And that's a fact, by the way. It's not political propaganda"

In any given year there's more rapes done by white people than black, does this mean rapes done by black people are less of a problem?

I hope not.

What stuck by me are the last couple of sentences, his conclusion:
"There are 320 million of us in this country. A lot of us are very different from one another, yet we all have to live together. In fact, most of us want to live together. But suddenly our leaders are making that dangerously difficult."

I wonder if he's blaming Trump too, actually I hope that's what he meant.

 

[mack341]

Yes, this is a problem and a shameful thing here. Sami are indigenous people of the Northern Scandinavia, including Finland. Their situation could be better, no doubt about that.

But we don't go hunting them or there is no excessive and systematic, direct violence by the police towards them.

Discrimination exist. In every country. Like @vorcirion pointed out, there are worse forms of discrimination and arrogance. Like colonialism. And slavery. And MAGA. And MUKGA. And systematic racism. And murder by police.

I have to admit Mack. That was pretty weak.

I did hesitate to mention it, and finland isn't exactly downtown detroit so it was unlikely ever to be a similar comparison.

Taking a people's land off them en masse is a form of colonialism I think, I must admit I don't know much about the sami, whether if they go for a job in finland they have the exact same chance of getting it or likely to be looked over. I guess they wish to stay separate and live a traditional lifestyle which maybe part of the problem, how you accommodate that in a modern country.

 

[sufferinsilence]

 

[vorcirion]

I did hesitate to mention it, and finland isn't exactly downtown detroit so it was unlikely ever to be a similar comparison.

Taking a people's land off them en masse is a form of colonialism I think, I must admit I don't know much about the sami, whether if they go for a job in finland they have the exact same chance of getting it or likely to be looked over. I guess they wish to stay separate and live a traditional lifestyle which maybe part of the problem, how you accommodate that in a modern country.

According to one of sami people:

"The status of the Sámi today

Since the 1970s, the position of the Sámi has radically improved in all respects. Today, the rapidly middle-class Sámi minority has earned its place in Finnish society in the eyes of Finns. The Sámi language minority currently enjoys a privileged position among minorities in that it is defined as an indigenous people in the Constitution and its rights are safeguarded in all key areas of life. In addition, the Sámi have very good opportunities to influence their own position politically, economically and culturally. Population groups have benefited from the same laws and benefits in addition to special benefits in favor of the Sámi. Municipalities have invested in population groups in the same way. The dependence of population groups and the region on the state is high. The state has favored the Sámi in its support activities."

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(google translate did pretty good job in this section at least that I posted)

So what do you think about UK's colonialism? Did they teach you anything about it in the school?

 

[mack341]

According to one of sami people:

"The status of the Sámi today

Since the 1970s, the position of the Sámi has radically improved in all respects. Today, the rapidly middle-class Sámi minority has earned its place in Finnish society in the eyes of Finns. The Sámi language minority currently enjoys a privileged position among minorities in that it is defined as an indigenous people in the Constitution and its rights are safeguarded in all key areas of life. In addition, the Sámi have very good opportunities to influence their own position politically, economically and culturally. Population groups have benefited from the same laws and benefits in addition to special benefits in favor of the Sámi. Municipalities have invested in population groups in the same way. The dependence of population groups and the region on the state is high. The state has favored the Sámi in its support activities."

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(google translate did pretty good job in this section at least that I posted)

So what do you think about UK's colonialism? Did they teach you anything about in the school?

That was an interesting read, it sounds possibly from this section the sami culture is viewed as a bit basic:

When high culture was not available in the Sámi language, it was argued that Sámi culture was less developed. Unfortunately, this pattern of thought has remained strong in the public debate to this day.

But before I continue with my copy and paste, let's have a musical interval something Ternur might like great costumes they have too




Yes they did teach us about colonialism, well to be fair mainly about gandhi ...we ourselves were colonised by the romans and then the normans, the blinking vikings made several cheeky trips here too, stealing our women and produce no doubt

 

[mack341]

Oh dear protestors are attacking the CNN building in Atlanta now, wonder how they'll report on that

 

[Mouche12]

 

[mack341]

From new york, another democrat district and they're upset fighting with the cops too:

 

[mack341]

what have the liberals got to say about this, the evil ***** of s*** :

on second thoughts I'm not going to post the twitter link as it's too distressing, a young black man punching an elderly white man remorselessly while he's lying down in a nursing home, absolutely despicable, deserves hanging. And I never saw that on the main news channels.

I've seen other videos tonight on twitter also shocking, people ought to watch a few of these and try and be a bit more realistic rather than talking nonsense about white people/cops hunting black people.

 

[ternur]

what have the liberals got to say about this, the evil ***** of s*** :

on second thoughts I'm not going to post the twitter link as it's too distressing, a young black man punching an elderly white man remorselessly while he's lying down in a nursing home, absolutely despicable, deserves hanging. And I never saw that on the main news channels.

I've seen other videos tonight on twitter also shocking, people ought to watch a few of these and try and be a bit more realistic rather than talking nonsense about white people/cops hunting black people.

That's a bit different isn't it Mack? Was that young black man a cop? Thugs and criminals come in all colours.

I personally would like to hold officials, esp. cops to a higher standard than most people.

 

[mack341]

They should have made a film based on this, must've been part of the rodney king riots, what a brave character this korean guy was:

 

[mack341]

That's a bit different isn't it Mack? Was that young black man a cop? Thugs and criminals come in all colours.

I personally would like to hold officials, esp. cops to a higher standard than most people.

If you can bear it watch the clip, I shall unfortunately never forget it for it's utter cruel callousness, and then tell me it's different; I think the cop was a sick sadist but I have seen cops use all sorts of dangerous choke holds too, and that probably won't have been the first time he held someone down with his knee like that.

Thugs and criminals do come in all colours but at the moment in the US, and even the UK too, I would hazard a guess ethnic minorities are disproportionately involved in crime, of course there will be a variety of social reasons/causes factored in to that but they are not going to go away anytime soon [be resolved].

Poverty is a great driver of crime in the modern, haves and have nots world. The liberals want to increase the population size, which will cause more crime and poverty, sweden has seen a massive rise in it's crime figures and you probably won't find a more progressive, liberal country. slightly off topic to your point I realise. but you know the racism charge is bandied around in a vacuum, away from hard facts. several posts I read tonight remarked that CNN created this monster [regarding the riots] and I think they do bear a responsibility for getting people overly worked up and hysterical in a one sided way. This looting and the arson are going to increase dislike and distrust, feeding a vicious circle.

 

[sufferinsilence]

what have the liberals got to say about this, the evil ***** of s*** :

on second thoughts I'm not going to post the twitter link as it's too distressing, a young black man punching an elderly white man remorselessly while he's lying down in a nursing home, absolutely despicable, deserves hanging. And I never saw that on the main news channels.

I've seen other videos tonight on twitter also shocking, people ought to watch a few of these and try and be a bit more realistic rather than talking nonsense about white people/cops hunting black people.

He has been arrested the day after the video surfaced.

CNN, as mainstream as they come, reported on it.

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[mack341]

I'm not going to watch any more crime clips, too depressing and my blood pressure will rise, but in my opinion the liberal way of life regarding education, acceptable standards of behaviour, business practices etc.. isn't working and has led us here.

There are so many crime stories, not all black or ethnic, white too, that I could post, violent crimes beyond comprehension, it's just sickening and tragic. And surprising to me that people don't get more angry, just shrug their shoulders.

 

[ternur]

If you can bear it watch the clip, I shall unfortunately never forget it for it's utter cruel callousness, and then tell me it's different; I think the cop was a sick sadist but I have seen cops use all sorts of dangerous choke holds too, and that probably won't have been the first time he held someone down with his knee like that.

Thugs and criminals do come in all colours but at the moment in the US, and even the UK too, I would hazard a guess ethnic minorities are disproportionately involved in crime, of course there will be a variety of social reasons/causes factored in to that but they are not going to go away anytime soon [be resolved].

Poverty is a great driver of crime in the modern, haves and have nots world. The liberals want to increase the population size, which will cause more crime and poverty, sweden has seen a massive rise in it's crime figures and you probably won't find a more progressive, liberal country. slightly off topic to your point I realise. but you know the racism charge is bandied around in a vacuum, away from hard facts. several posts I read tonight remarked that CNN created this monster [regarding the riots] and I think they do bear a responsibility for getting people overly worked up and hysterical in a one sided way. This looting and the arson are going to increase dislike and distrust, feeding a vicious circle.

Different premises with these acts. You compared a criminal attacking an elderly man to a cop using lethal force to restrain a suspect.

I don't see this as a race issue. Two different acts. Both criminal.