Comments Welcome Noooo - Tell me its not true!!

[Jono777]

Ok, so I hear from a none CM related source, a rumour which I hope is the furthest thing from the truth that I have ever been told!

My all time fave low rolling game "Dead or Alive" is coming to the end of its life, end of this year!!!!

Thoughts are initially "Not a chance, its as popular today as its has always been" but also "Aaaahh, that's why they launched DoA II and covered the same bonus round"

As the title says, I hope this information is a load of bollocks and would be very surprised if Netent pulled one of their greatest assets to date!

 

[sufferinsilence]

I suggest you move to Who's the Bride which is a 100% clone of DOA and was released late last year

 

[mina1929]

They better not want to do that

 

[Jono777]

I suggest you move to Who's the Bride which is a 100% clone of DOA and was released late last year

I know but its just not DoA, I'm fussy didn't you know that - I've learnt not to suffer in silence anymore

 

[goatwack]

They better not want to do that

Why, what will you do Mina? Drown Netent's CEO in fairy dust?

 

[Kroffe]

I know but its just not DoA, I'm fussy didn't you know that - I've learnt not to suffer in silence anymore

Its not the same, but its pretty good.

 

[mina1929]

Why, what will you do Mina? Drown Netent's CEO in fairy dust?

No fairy dust for Netent only dust when Mina is angry

 

[Kroffe]

I can see how that would fix things.

Netent drone1 - So, we are scrapping Dead or alive by the end of the year as planned?
Netent CEO - No can do, some woman came to my house yesterday and covered me with dust.
Netent Drone1 - Fairy dust?
Netent CEO - No, it was just normal dust, she was angry.

 

[dealer wins]

I suggest you move to Who's the Bride which is a 100% clone of DOA and was released late last year

OMG I never realised that. Played it several times no wonder it did me up like a kipper!!!

 

[snorky510238]

Don’t mess with Mina, she will feed you to..................ah better not.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Bonanza will welcome you all with open arms.

 

[Kroffe]

Bonanza will welcome you all with open arms.

Ah, the cold loveless embrace of bonanza.

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[Downsman]

Sigh..that'll be a shame if true, just as i managed to get my first wildline the other week!

 

[Davey86]

All netent dead or alive original being pulled from all casinos from 18rh October 1986 officially red tiger put out a statement on 4/08/2030 confirming

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hey Jon,

Spoke to our Netent account manager and he hadn’t heard anything of the sort. It’s a massive game for them I can’t see this being true.

Mark

 

[mina1929]

Of course its not true now, they saw my post

 

[dunover]

Hey Jon,

Spoke to our Netent account manager and he hadn’t heard anything of the sort. It’s a massive game for them I can’t see this being true.

Mark

It also makes them very little money, believe it or not. They told me at ICE.

 

[Lemon]

It also makes them very little money, believe it or not. They told me at ICE.

Should have made it 10 lines instead of 9. All those extra pennies missed over the years...

 

[Jono777]

It also makes them very little money, believe it or not. They told me at ICE.

Maybe directly not. However it is an attraction in general to entice players to casinos where they will deposit and lose on other games.

Maybe not so much these days but certainly when multi-provider offerings were limited!

 

[dionysus]

I play it (and the sequel) incredibly rarely; I find is so ....dull.
Ya, we've seen the screenshots to know it's not an impossible (though unlikely) dream win.
I just don't enoy it and that's more than half the point in me playing slots.

 

[thr0b]

That's it. Both games are dull. Slow. You can get decent wins from unlikely stakes - I know I have. But it feels such a slog getting there. Tombstone and Deadwood have taken the idea and vastly improved it.

 

[snorky510238]

It also makes them very little money, believe it or not. They told me at ICE.

I remember you posting this before and couldn’t help thinking at the time, that if it pays the correct rtp, then surely it makes more than other games as it’s played more or am I missing something?

 

[thr0b]

Popular enough to support and stay profitable probably does not always equate to lots of money. Given how long it's been around, support costs are probably minimal, it's not going to need any major changes for the foreseeable and will just happily tick over for the hardcore fans of it until such time as HTML5 is replaced or it becomes unprofitable.

 

[Jono777]

I play it (and the sequel) incredibly rarely; I find is so ....dull.
Ya, we've seen the screenshots to know it's not an impossible (though unlikely) dream win.
I just don't enoy it and that's more than half the point in me playing slots.

95% of the reason I play is also enjoyment / pass some time / unwind / relax / boredom buster.

However we can't all make 100 deposits and spin away at any game at 1.00 stakes or higher.

Part of DoA's attraction is that for low rollers a 10/20 deposit can on most sessions last a good while, provide some value for said deposit and some play time, whilst also having that "you never know" that a huge hit may come and allow me to move to more exciting games and higher bets, as well as diving for the cash out button.

The above cannot be said for many of today's rip off releases.

I'm sure you'd soon be enjoying it as that 5th scatter slid into place or the missing wild drops in

 

[dunover]

I remember you posting this before and couldn’t help thinking at the time, that if it pays the correct rtp, then surely it makes more than other games as it’s played more or am I missing something?

It has a high RTP firstly, secondly the volatility creates a lot of 'hit-and-run' players after big wins.

 

[Jono777]

It has a high RTP firstly, secondly the volatility creates a lot of 'hit-and-run' players after big wins.

It also has created a VERY large group of loyal and regular followers who would more than make up for the hit and runners I would have thought.

 

[Downsman]

I'm sure you'd soon be enjoying it as that 5th scatter slid into place or the missing wild drops in

As i've been lucky enough to get both..i second that!

 

[Mr_Slot5]

I play it (and the sequel) incredibly rarely; I find is so ....dull.
Ya, we've seen the screenshots to know it's not an impossible (though unlikely) dream win.
I just don't enoy it and that's more than half the point in me playing slots.

Exactly the reason I don't play it much either. Soul destroyingly dull. Sure, you can hit big but that doesn't make up for the dull gameplay.

 

[snorky510238]

It has a high RTP firstly, secondly the volatility creates a lot of 'hit-and-run' players after big wins.

Yet they went to the trouble of making another?????? (and Who’s the bride). I am not doubting what you say, just looking at it logically and it doesn’t really hold sway.

 

[dionysus]

Yet they went to the trouble of making another??????

IIRC, it was mostly just a re-skin in order to appeal to an Asian market.

 

[snorky510238]

I was more referring to DOA 2 tbh.

 

[brianmon]

It also makes them very little money, believe it or not. They told me at ICE.

How could it not make them money?
if it's running at it TRTP%, which it no doubt is, and it's "a massive game for them" as 32Red_mark says, It'll be making them plenty.

Also 'hit and run players' would only affect individual casinos, not NetEnt themselves. It'll all balance out at their end and be hitting its TRTP

 

[dunover]

How could it not make them money?
if it's running at it TRTP%, which it no doubt is, and it's "a massive game for them" as 32Red_mark says, It'll be making them plenty.

Also 'hit and run players' would only affect individual casinos, not NetEnt themselves. It'll all balance out at their end and be hitting its TRTP

They didn't explain in much detail, and I didn't say they said it doesn't make them money, but not much money. Compared to Starburst etc. which are far more profitable for them. If I were to guess, it would be mainly due to the fact the house edge is lower on it and secondly as a result of big wins which would likely trigger a cash-out or switch of slots by the player. Whereas on egg-timer games like Starburst the wins are constantly recycled due to being smaller.
In other words, the RTP will nearly always be recycled or partially recycled on low-volatility slots maintaining Netent's rake and on DoA the large part of the RTP allocated to huge wins wouldn't be in the short term. Of course, in the long term the house edge will count and DoA has a higher RTP than many other Netents.

 

[johnnybagel]

Once a game has been developed and released isn't it basically passive income? Does it have upkeep costs? Even if it doesn't make them much, if it makes them something what would be the benefit for them in removing it?
General question rather than specific to DOA

 

[thr0b]

There's always going to be server maintenance costs, then you have to take into account how games will work in new browsers; browser developers can make changes which have unforeseen effects on your sites requiring re-work.

Here's what DOA2 looks like on the latest iOS beta.

This is obviously a current game, but a result of changes in the iOS browser engine means it displays entirely badly (though is still playable). It's a no-brainer that if Apple doesn't fix the browser bug, NetEnt will alter the code to work around it.

However, if it were a game that only a couple of hundred people played per day, and was just ticking over - would it be worth their while going back and amending the code?

(In this case - I suspect the WebKit bugs will be fixed rather than the game code.)

 

[johnnybagel]

Thanks Dan, really interesting. I'm not all that tech savvy so had no idea about half of that stuff!

Does each game have its own server then or can one server handle a bunch of them?