Nolimit games try and true thought experience

degerardo

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Well the ratio I am speaking about is basically two things. Anyone can state that frequency of bonus hit we have 1 bonus per 10 spins - but for another 20.000 spins you are on the range 1 to 9 spins and then that 10th one comes with s$%*t pay lol. You know what I mean.. so it is not really one out of 10 spins.
The other thing in here I was referring to was to MAX wins and what is the range of X bet win back. My point was, why such a huge max win if there is no big, bigger, biggest wins in range from 0 to 60.000x bet? You only hit 0x - 50x, then 50x - 100x, then nothing for all the numbers counted up to max win basically. In rage from 100x bet to 60.000x is so huge and the win in there ratio is basically same as to get max win - but you end up with 2000x bet or 3000x.
 

paul7388

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Well the ratio I am speaking about is basically two things. Anyone can state that frequency of bonus hit we have 1 bonus per 10 spins - but for another 20.000 spins you are on the range 1 to 9 spins and then that 10th one comes with s$%*t pay lol. You know what I mean.. so it is not really one out of 10 spins.
The other thing in here I was referring to was to MAX wins and what is the range of X bet win back. My point was, why such a huge max win if there is no big, bigger, biggest wins in range from 0 to 60.000x bet? You only hit 0x - 50x, then 50x - 100x, then nothing for all the numbers counted up to max win basically. In rage from 100x bet to 60.000x is so huge and the win in there ratio is basically same as to get max win - but you end up with 2000x bet or 3000x.
No lol.
 

Speedy38

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So last night I tried a new casino and they have no limit slots. I never played them I tought I gave the new true grit redemption slot a try. So 500 spins only one bonus payed 5x 😂 so never again...,
 

degerardo

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Well statements say for example bonus hit is 1 out of 200 spins.. actually I did play True Grit Redemption today where in 5400 spins I've got one bonus landed. So how many times I have skip 200 spins(to get bonus?) in 5400 it is then (to return back number of bonuses) 27 bonuses.. 26 of them never came :D And this can go on and on and on to 1mil spins, 2mil spins expecting then to land bonus on every spin out of 100s 1000s (counting back number of spins VS frequency ratio stated).
 

degerardo

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So last night I tried a new casino and they have no limit slots. I never played them I tought I gave the new true grit redemption slot a try. So 500 spins only one bonus payed 5x 😂 so never again...,
I did it today 5400 spins - one bonus! :D Its same garbage like Legion. They can do a couple together. And that's last two NLC releases.. no idea where they are heading to lol, but players will go away from them if it continues.
 

Speedy38

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I did it today 5400 spins - one bonus! :D Its same garbage like Legion. They can do a couple together. And that's last two NLC releases.. no idea where they are heading to lol, but players will go away from them if it continues.
Normal I do most of the time bonus buys on games but on no limit no way I buy a bonus....
 

degerardo

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Update after yesterday's play, I went back to Grit with 4000 spins more. I went exactly where I left the game yesterday (5400 spins played with one bonus) hmm... no bonus landed...no Grit Girls landed... result in total is: ONE bonus in 9400 spins - call me crazy, but this is 3x worst of the worst I've ever had. Unless I will try (which I will not-I know where it will goes after this release) Tombstone R.I.P.
 

Reelsoffun

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@degerardo Send me enough funds to do 10,000 spins on min bet and i will try it for you and report back any stats you want LOL

But Im 100% sure i would get way more than 1 bonus but even if i got 20 bonuses what would it prove?

10,000 spins is nothing compared to billions which is what a lot of these games are tested on.
 

degerardo

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Yeah right :D next test run I will try to record - proving what Im saying.
Either I am 1 out of a billion players in the games industry to be on this game only (with Legion) to have this experience, or something fisshy is there..
Im saying about those two games, they do have many more where I didnt experienced this stuff.. well, Fire in the Hole - never hit 4.scatters in 12k spins.
But the rest is okay as it should be.. lol.
 

Reelsoffun

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Well if your playing only one stake its pretty easy to work out your RTP and the RTP contribution of the feature and base.

need start balance
total spins
Stake
total feature wins
end balance

then you can work out it all, its only if your swapping stakes it gets tricky to break it down to the separate rtps
 

degerardo

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Well thats the thing. I know all of this and thats why I did stay alp 9400 spins on same stake1 euro bet.
 

Reelsoffun

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need start balance =??
total spins = 9400
Stake = 1
total feature wins = ??
end balance =??
 

degerardo

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Start balance - 1000Euros then added 1000Euros more
Total spins - 9400 (+some 10's plus)
Stake 1Euro
Total feature wins on spins - 1
Bonus buys - 20 - max win - 38 Euros
Added into balance 1500 Euros
End balance 0
Total spent 3.5k on stake 1 with one bonus landed in 9400 spins. Not exact numbers - but difference is in a few 10s in all areas but not 100s.
 

Reelsoffun

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Without exact stats I cant show you what your real stats were, but if your mixing real play with bonus buys then your never going to have a true figure anyway as they are most likely 2 different animals in the same cage

I was trying to get your base game RTP but they way you played its not possible to do that.

If you spent total of 3500 on stake 1 then how did you buy bonus buys ?

Anyway just saying thats how you do it if you want to work out in the future :)
 

degerardo

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I was stating for spins rounds. Bonus buys were 1100 Euros spent.
So I did 5400 spins - one bonus landed only.
Then I went to bonus buys
Then went back to do another 4000 spins without bonus landed. All on same stake.
At least we can see and it is giving a little light to the questions Ive asked in the other post. But what a bad way to find it lol :D
Im not angry or sad.. I did win big on MT2 twice in a row + on Pirates Plenty Megaways and Volitale Vikings, Im still in an amazing profit, but I was giving hope that after releasing BS - Legion, they will do something cool to have a good play sesion. Loosing its okay, its normal, but this way is very strange :D
 

4ThePlayer

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I love to know if anyone from UK hit a max win on Nolimit games, or 90k yeti lol
90k Yeti is a volatile game, this was a win a player had without a bonus buy 😉

 

johnnymcc1966

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I can't even get a win on the basegame above my stake level. Far too many dead spins for me as it makes No Limit City games look like the old Netent.
 

justdoit

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Nov 22, 2021
90k Yeti is a volatile game, this was a win a player had without a bonus buy 😉

Is from crypto casino you see big win all day long from streamers they get top up Cash by casinos, how many players they spin this game a day billions of spins a day, everyday...and one crypto casino hit max win? your point is making games volatile and pay one time a year not real good for costumers...I see many real money streamers ban 90k yeti from playing, way go for 90k x max? way not go for 10kx max win and let players win more often, Same with Nolimit and Relax they going for all this crazy XXX win, witch they dont benefit the players, any long time gamblers will not play games with big multi x coz they know is impossible to win...
I dont believe all this big wins they come from Crypto streamers is just advertisement for casino and providers.. P.s. DoA2 is the only game that consistently delivers big wins, rest are just dream to hit max win

 

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