No Cardpay?(US PLayer's Dumped Again)

[shewoff]

PAID!!!! Finally a light at the end of this very long tunnel.

It happened the Circle acct. that the code was NOT Bitcoin? Turned out to be a Bitcoin code? It never fail's to confuse the heck out of me? When they actually try to tell me something everyone else say's "CAN'T BE".
If your lucky enough to use a casino that has this option Bitcoin then it may well take the place of out little lost lamb the cardpay?
Unfortunately this will not include the site's from Clubworld. But who know's perhaps the CS that told me it would be the end of the week will be correct and cardpay will be back up and all will be good with the world? Except those of us that have decided NOT to use the casino's that have made this entire problem worse.

Anyway it was a long wait and it does payoff to not use up your winning's and play it all back.Try Bitcoin if you can and don't give up the casino's will let me know and I will let you know as soon as I do? This is promise from 1 US player to all that listen. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[Deanna]

PAID!!!! Finally a light at the end of this very long tunnel.

It happened the Circle acct. that the code was NOT Bitcoin? Turned out to be a Bitcoin code? It never fail's to confuse the heck out of me? When they actually try to tell me something everyone else say's "CAN'T BE".
If your lucky enough to use a casino that has this option Bitcoin then it may well take the place of out little lost lamb the cardpay?
Unfortunately this will not include the site's from Clubworld. But who know's perhaps the CS that told me it would be the end of the week will be correct and cardpay will be back up and all will be good with the world? Except those of us that have decided NOT to use the casino's that have made this entire problem worse.

Anyway it was a long wait and it does payoff to not use up your winning's and play it all back.Try Bitcoin if you can and don't give up the casino's will let me know and I will let you know as soon as I do? This is promise from 1 US player to all that listen. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

It's all confusing to me. I joined Circle, converted US$ to Bitcoin, made a deposit using "bitcoin" - Circle says the transaction was completed successfully and the money is out of my Circle account. The casino says on their end the transaction shows as "declined". Mind you this is 3 hours later because they kept telling me it could take that long to clear. Now what? Arg. I cut and pasted the bitcoin amount and the code that the cashier said to use. Oh Cardforce, come back to me....

 

[shewoff]

Deanna,

I know what you mean. The fact that some of the casino's are new to Bitcoin may have a influence on the denial's? I have yet to make a deposit thru my Circle acct. because as I said I opened it to get my withdrawal's clear.

Circle has a very security oriented system and the fact that everytime you login it issue;s a new code to clear the login is substantial. I don't own a cell phone so this is a real pain in the a&&. But as near as I can see it, you must click on the send button in your acct. page and if you cut or copy the code that they give you when you use the drop down. This code will always be associated with your acct.So the denial on the casino's end may very well lie in the platform they use?

Contact the CS for Circle and call them at the number provided in the HELP page.They are only open from 10am to 4pm and not open on the week-end's. I know it's frustrating to go thru the loop hole's? Trust me I feel for you. But stick with it and just try to get your withdrawal's thru Circle there is no need to use them for deposit's if you don't have too.

After all depositing is not the issue here is it? It's getting paid the monies that we can't get while cardpay is down? Yes it's free but I lost $11.00 and some change in the conversion from bitcoin to US dollar's today? Just getting paid my $700.00? But to get the money after almost 2 week's it is worth the loss.

If you have any other question's about Circle PM me and I will try to help? OK There may be thing's we don't want to show or say here in this public forum. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

PS Don't copy the amount just the code is what they have just told me?

 

[rockydyke]

Live Chat with Lucky Red

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Daniel'

Daniel: Hello, how are you today?

Daniel: Hi Barbara

Barbara Duffy: I'm good thank you. Have you heard anything about when card/pay would be back up?

Daniel: As far as we have been advised the Pay My Card option is still in surgery and is expected to make a full recovery by the end of this week, as it is our provider doing the update rather than us we are going off the updates we are getting!

Barbara Duffy: Thats great to hear

Daniel: As soon as the upgrade is complete the cashier will then review and process withdrawals as normal Barbara !

Barbara Duffy: I'm looking forward to playing again as soon as this mess is cleared up.

Daniel: We are looking forward to the upgrade being complete too Barbara

Barbara Duffy: Thanks that's it for now you've been a great help

Daniel: Anytime Barbara

 

[Deanna]

Live Chat with Lucky Red

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Daniel'

Daniel: Hello, how are you today?

Daniel: Hi Barbara

Barbara Duffy: I'm good thank you. Have you heard anything about when card/pay would be back up?

Daniel: As far as we have been advised the Pay My Card option is still in surgery and is expected to make a full recovery by the end of this week, as it is our provider doing the update rather than us we are going off the updates we are getting!

Barbara Duffy: Thats great to hear

Daniel: As soon as the upgrade is complete the cashier will then review and process withdrawals as normal Barbara !

Barbara Duffy: I'm looking forward to playing again as soon as this mess is cleared up.

Daniel: We are looking forward to the upgrade being complete too Barbara

Barbara Duffy: Thanks that's it for now you've been a great help

Daniel: Anytime Barbara

I love the "in surgery" response.

Shewoff, I actually decided to deposit via this method because I wanted to try to understand what was going on and how it worked. I also thought moving money to the Circle account might be better on my CC than all the weird "China" etc. transactions from directly depositing with my CC. I thought what the heck, I'll do a $25 deposit via bitcoin and at least it might help it all make sense to me. And it does...sort of. Except for the fact that my deposit is "not successful" to the casino yet gone from my Circle account and according to them "successfully completed". I wish now that I had taken a screenshot in the cashier window. I just sent a screenshot of the completed transaction per a CS chat this morning. I guess I'll wait and see. Here was the chat and the only reason I'm going into all this on here is because I know there has to be other people like me that aren't exactly sure how all this works so any information is more information than what they had...

CS: It seems to be that the payment was not successful
Me: and yet it was on their end. can you tell if it's the same address that the cashier requested? the same amount of bitcoin? because otherwise it doesn't make sense
Me: I mean that money is gone, according to them successfully transferred.
Me: so transferred to where?
CS: Let me check
ME: again, here are the specifics...can't they see if it matches up?
ME: "transaction specifics which I removed for the post"
CS: This is the transaction that I am looking at
ME: the one I just showed you?
CS: Yes
ME: So what do I do? They say it was successful. That money is gone. You say it's declined. Any thoughts on how I should proceed? If I contact them they will say the same thing, as will you. So do I just call it a loss and somewhere out there is floating my $25?
ME: you have the exact same transaction number and bitcoin amount as they do. so that is all correct yet...
ME: Can you send a statement where it shows that the transaction was successful?
ME: yes, well...I have to look at the account and see what it lets me print but at the very least I can log in and send you a screenshot of it, can you give me an email to send it to and a promise that someone will look at it right away?
ME: Ok, I will send it in a minute and go from there. Thank you for your help!

What's kind of funny is I'm jumping through all these hoops for money that will probably be lost in less than 15 minutes HA! Lesson learned. I know more about bitcoin today than I did yesterday though and my decision is probably going to be I DON'T MUCH LIKE IT SO FAR!

 

[EbeeDog]

What's kind of funny is I'm jumping through all these hoops for money that will probably be lost in less than 15 minutes HA! Lesson learned. I know more about bitcoin today than I did yesterday though and my decision is probably going to be I DON'T MUCH LIKE IT SO FAR![/QUOTE]

Thank you for your post. It helped me decide to put off messing with bitcoin until it becomes a bit more mainstream.

I think, once everybody gets savvy with it, casinos and players alike, it's going to prove to be the best method for U.S. players - which would almost make all this hassle worthwhile...almost...maybe...possibly

 

[shewoff]

Deanna I'am the very same as you? What I know about Circle you can put into a mouse's tail.

But you and I both have been around this i-gaming long enough to know that playing in the US we must adapt to the numerous roadblock's placed in our path's when we try to collect our winning's.So this is my way of getting past these roadblock's? Use what ever it take's to get it done.

This will not aid your feeling's about Circle but I must post it as I see it as another roadblock to my winning's?

Oddly enough I have just this am gotten a e-mail from a sister site of the casino that denied my Circle code as not being Bitcoin? Even the same person it's very strange that they seem to deny the first attempt to withdraw via Bitcoin? I can only view this as a stalling action to try to get me to play back my wining's and make me $2400.00 poorer?

WHY! I need my wining's as soon as possible? Momma Q did not raise such a fool? So why make me go thru another 48hour pending period and it will be next week before I can get my money?The money was authorized? So why do I have to go thru the same process again?

I can play at another site and if I'am a bad player then slap me down But don't mess with my money?

It has to be because I'am a US player and they think impotent in my ability to respond?Wrong!

Deanna we both have to learn to use these new method's successfully to survive these sling's and arrow's I wish you the best in the recovery of your fund's? But at the casino's when you use Bitcoin they state that when it's gone from them IT's GONE? Maybe the same applies to deposit's that don't get sent back to the sender? When declined? Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[Deanna]

Deanna I'am the very same as you? What I know about Circle you can put into a mouse's tail.

But you and I both have been around this i-gaming long enough to know that playing in the US we must adapt to the numerous roadblock's placed in our path's when we try to collect our winning's.So this is my way of getting past these roadblock's? Use what ever it take's to get it done.

This will not aid your feeling's about Circle but I must post it as I see it as another roadblock to my winning's?

Oddly enough I have just this am gotten a e-mail from a sister site of the casino that denied my Circle code as not being Bitcoin? Even the same person it's very strange that they seem to deny the first attempt to withdraw via Bitcoin? I can only view this as a stalling action to try to get me to play back my wining's and make me $2400.00 poorer?

WHY! I need my wining's as soon as possible? Momma Q did not raise such a fool? So why make me go thru another 48hour pending period and it will be next week before I can get my money?The money was authorized? So why do I have to go thru the same process again?

I can play at another site and if I'am a bad player then slap me down But don't mess with my money?

It has to be because I'am a US player and they think impotent in my ability to respond?Wrong!

Deanna we both have to learn to use these new method's successfully to survive these sling's and arrow's I wish you the best in the recovery of your fund's? But at the casino's when you use Bitcoin they state that when it's gone from them IT's GONE? Maybe the same applies to deposit's that don't get sent back to the sender? When declined? Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

I wondered about that, what if what happened to me depositing happens in the reverse...then your cashout is just "floating" around somewhere with neither side laying claim to it....yikes. But I agree, people are using this method and some people like it so I am trying to have faith that it can work. I hope you get it sorted out!

Ok, I just went into chat to see if they got my email:

CS: The in formation was received
ME: oh that's good to know
CS: Please allow about 30 mins to 1 hr, for your account to be updated.
CS: If it has not been please return to chats for further assistance.

So, we shall see!

 

[rockycatt]

I wondered about that, what if what happened to me depositing happens in the reverse...then your cashout is just "floating" around somewhere with neither side laying claim to it....yikes. But I agree, people are using this method and some people like it so I am trying to have faith that it can work. I hope you get it sorted out!

Ok, I just went into chat to see if they got my email:

CS: The in formation was received
ME: oh that's good to know
CS: Please allow about 30 mins to 1 hr, for your account to be updated.
CS: If it has not been please return to chats for further assistance.

So, we shall see!

so Deanna your first deposited with bit coin has completed and credited to your playing account ? another note beshure there is enough to cover any fees from the bitcoin deposit I'm not Shure exactly who are getting any fees

 

[Deanna]

so Deanna your first deposited with bit coin has completed and credited to your playing account ? another note beshure there is enough to cover any fees from the bitcoin deposit I'm not Shure exactly who are getting any fees

I just received an email that it was "manually" credited at the casino.

 

[shewoff]

This is the kicker here? It's almost like we have to push them to do their job? And the reverse is also a fact that must be looked at. But if I have even a small amount of control over it I stand a much better chance that if I allow complete control to be with them i:e the casino's.

I'am much more put out by the utter lack of ability that some of the people at some casino's seem to have? These people control 10's of thousand's and even 100's of thousand's of dollar's and they don't seem to know the job? This is a mystery to me.

And to be honest I worry every time I try to get my cash from a win. I have been burned so many time's by casino's that are taking money 1 day and the next GONE! And with them went $10,000.00 of my winning's and the ones that just have not bothered to pay.It is a real nightmare but I love to play slot's so I take the good with the bad.

But trust me if they burn this old vet I will try my very best to burn them right down to the ground.Ya gotta give what ya get.Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[weesie]

Has there been any resolution to this problem yet?

Waiting to play!

 

[Deanna]

Has there been any resolution to this problem yet?

Waiting to play!

I can tell you one resolution on my part. Not to put money into the account used for bitcoin deposits. I did a test deposit of $4 when I opened the whole thing, just to add the card etc. and to see what pending charge was listed on my CC (the name/place). Then when I decided to actually try using it to deposit I deposited $27 into it. I'm the stupidest person ever. I just got charged by my credit card two $10 "cash advance fees" for those two deposits. I paid $10 to deposit $4. I really am the stupidest person EVER.

Somebody punch me.

 

[rockycatt]

I can tell you one resolution on my part. Not to put money into the account used for bitcoin deposits. I did a test deposit of $4 when I opened the whole thing, just to add the card etc. and to see what pending charge was listed on my CC (the name/place). Then when I decided to actually try using it to deposit I deposited $27 into it. I'm the stupidest person ever. I just got charged by my credit card two $10 "cash advance fees" for those two deposits. I paid $10 to deposit $4. I really am the stupidest person EVER.

Somebody punch me.

I'm sorry to hear that but a CC is going to charge you cash advance were a checking account is no fee {from my experience ] also a debit card should be free ,,, the credit card views it as a short term cash loan

 

[Deanna]

I'm sorry to hear that but a CC is going to charge you cash advance were a checking account is no fee {from my experience ] also a debit card should be free ,,, the credit card views it as a short term cash loan

Such a nice way to say "Yep, you're stupid".

 

[EbeeDog]

Such a nice way to say "Yep, you're stupid".

Aw, you just won 1000+.....why not just give it away

 

[Deanna]

Aw, you just won 1000+.....why not just give it away

I did.

Punch me again.

 

[rockycatt]

Such a nice way to say "Yep, you're stupid".

but to make it clear for peeps that might be considering bit coin would you say that the mechanics of it are solid [ deposit wa transmitted with in the time expected ]

 

[Deanna]

but to make it clear for peeps that might be considering bit coin would you say that the mechanics of it are solid [ deposit wa transmitted with in the time expected ]

Not yet. The casino said my deposit was declined, they had to manually credit it and that was only after multiple chat sessions over the course of two days that I got the credit. And I am pretty sure had I not kept driving them crazy that money would have disappeared. I'll stick to depositing the usual way and hope that if I cash out via that method it goes smoothly. Although I believe Shewoff is experience difficulties in that area as well.

 

[debzy]

Well, since all the casinos that I play at have removed the cardpay choice from withdrawals and I don't like any of the other methods I guess I'll hang up my gambling hat for a while. I haven't seen any indication, despite the little bits of encouragement from the customer service reps, that paymycard or cardpay or whatever they call it will ever be back. I don't understand how bitcoin actually works and reading on here that people have to chase down their money after they deposit leaves a bad taste in my mouth. My last win enabled me to get completely out of debt with a little left over, so maybe this is a good time to stop. No, I didn't have much debt and it wasn't a huge win but no debt is a good thing any time. If I just want to play slots for fun I can and still probably be ahead of wherever I would be if I could deposit/withdraw easily. The casinos will be removed from my computer and I'll spend my money on books to read instead. If they ever get it together and make it a little easier for us to withdraw maybe I'll try again. I do enjoy the playing but all this other crap is just too much. The casinos won't even lower the fees for the other methods. I'm also getting tired of the hassle I get for using coupons when the casinos send them to me every 5 minutes. One minute I'm a VIP and the next I'm not important at all. I keep asking myself why I continue to do this and I don't have a good answer.

 

[weesie]

Hi,

I have used bitcoin at a couple sites and not had any problem to speak of.

Yes, there is a fee on the receivers end, which is removed from my deposit amount.

Say a 47.91 or 0.09 bitcoin went into the casino as 46.64, if I remember correctly.

But as far as my debit card,there were no additional charges at all.

I haven't had the pleasure of a withdrawal with this method so I have no input on that.

I want to know if CWC group has rectified the cardpay option yet.

Hoping for news soon so I can once again play there.

 

[clubworld]

Hi,

I have used bitcoin at a couple sites and not had any problem to speak of.

Yes, there is a fee on the receivers end, which is removed from my deposit amount.

Say a 47.91 or 0.09 bitcoin went into the casino as 46.64, if I remember correctly.

But as far as my debit card,there were no additional charges at all.

I haven't had the pleasure of a withdrawal with this method so I have no input on that.

I want to know if CWC group has rectified the cardpay option yet.

Hoping for news soon so I can once again play there.

Hi weesie,

We had a bank holiday over here yesterday so I'm catching up right now. Going to contact processor asap and check if there is any news. Hopefully the card option will be back this week.

Kind Regards,
Karolina

 

[shannyls]

Love Bitcoin

I've been using the Bitcoin option at another site for a few weeks now and wow, super easy, at low to no cost. I did a withdrawal yesterday and it was approved and back to my bitcoin account within six hours, (what? I didn't have to wait 48 hours) should hit my bank tonight. Wish they'd all go to bitcoin or at least offer it as an option.

 

[shewoff]

Thank's Karolina for the industry's input. It is always nice to see your post with as much info as possible in them. You have been the only i-gaming rep to raise your head in this thread? Thank You!

Hopefully the cardpay option will return in our life time? It has been 2 week's and it appear's that it may be more "Wait And SEE!"

I have been waiting all week-end to see if my big WD will be declined again? I got an e-mail early this am and it was authorized. But this is my 3rd attempt at getting paid thru bitcoin? I have been paid thru them but not this casino? I'm frustrated

Any old way Thank's Again, Karolina Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[shewoff]

PAID! PAID! PAID!

Well they finally saw the code that I sent? I tell you that waiting thru 3 attempt's at getting paid thru my Circle acct. and bitcoin was a long 2 week's? But I did not touch it and stood my ground and got paid!


Weird I did not get the processed e-mail until I went into the casino to see if my WD had been done?And I logged out and went to Circle acct. and there it was MORE than the $2400.00 is being sent to me? It has to be the conversion from bitcoin to dollar's? I will take it thou?

We will call it cost of waiting?Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[Deanna]

PAID! PAID! PAID!

Well they finally saw the code that I sent? I tell you that waiting thru 3 attempt's at getting paid thru my Circle acct. and bitcoin was a long 2 week's? But I did not touch it and stood my ground and got paid!


Weird I did not get the processed e-mail until I went into the casino to see if my WD had been done?And I logged out and went to Circle acct. and there it was MORE than the $2400.00 is being sent to me? It has to be the conversion from bitcoin to dollar's? I will take it thou?

We will call it cost of waiting?Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

That is great news!

 

[rockycatt]

Bit coin is the aspirin for this headache

 

[shewoff]

Very true rockycatt.

The fact is we meaning those of us that have been affected by the loss of cardpay. Must have a viable alternative that we can rely on.
It appear's that bitcoin may be that alternative? I just successfully managed a deposit from my bitcoin wallet to a casino. No problem Circle has a security part that requires that any sending of fund's must be confirmed 4 time's so the deposit took about 20 minute's?

I can live with that and I did not open the acct. for deposit's. So for the time being bitcoin will do the job for my WD's at the casino's that offer this option. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[Deanna]

Hi weesie,

We had a bank holiday over here yesterday so I'm catching up right now. Going to contact processor asap and check if there is any news. Hopefully the card option will be back this week.

Kind Regards,
Karolina

Hi Karolina, any word? Enquiring minds want to know...

 

[clubworld]

Hi Karolina, any word? Enquiring minds want to know...

Hi All,

I'm afraid that do not have much more news. This may take another couple of days from what I can see.

At the mean time we decided to take the CC option from cashier section and made some changes for customers to use alternative options.

If any of you will experience issues please PM me and I will try my best.

I know that this is far from ideal however we are trying our best while waiting.

Kind Regards,
Karolina

 

[shewoff]

Latest Update!

Got this e-mail this am and it speak's for itself. It appear's that cardpay is still missing?


Hello

I hope you are well.

We can see that you currently have a pending withdrawal via the Credit / Debit Card option and unfortunately this is still currently down for maintenance.

We are unsure as to when this will be available as we are still awaiting updates from the processors. Please be assured that this option will be available again once the processors have completed their maintenance.

I understand this is a massive inconvenience however we will do our best to help you receive your funds by an alternative option. You will now see you have the following options available in the cashiers section:

· Bank Transfer. Direct deposit to bank account minimum of $200 and maximum of $5000 with a $25 fee. Time taken to arrive is 5 working days.

· Courier Check. Check sent out via FedEx minimum of $200 and maximum of $2500 with a $25 fee for all check regardless of the amount. Time taken to arrive is 5 working days. Please ensure if you request this to a credit union bank that they will accept a Canadian check issued in USD.



If you have below the $200 minimum amount you may wish to leave this on your balance until the option becomes available or combine this will another withdrawal in one of our other brands however please let us know then we can combine these for you. You will need to enter the cashiers section on your account and re-request the card withdrawal via an alternative option.



I sincerely apologize for the upset and inconvenience this may have caused.



If you have any further question or need any further assistance, please get in contact.



Kind Regards

Not any real info except to say try another option or in my case WAIT! Boy, do I wish there was a bigger win here? But $150.00 is still a win

I have been paid by the other casino's that paid via bitcoin. Still have a new one for $250.00 that was just requested via bitcoin? It appear's to be helping me with the non-cwc site's? I will post the minute I hear anything about the cardpay option. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[EbeeDog]

I'd be surprised if it comes back at all Shewoff. Just getting that feeling.

Yourself, Rockycatt, Deanna and a few others have posted some great info on Bitcoin - enough that I'll give that a go when I get around to it, so thanks guys and gals).

As far as CWG, I've made a few smaller deposits here and there, despite swearing I wouldn't, realizing that at this point, my i-gaming is winding down - this whole thing has just worn me out. I'm on a losing jag anyway and if I do happen to win, I'll just pay the damn 25.00 for a check.

Once again, thanks for the bitcoin info folks.

 

[horseplayer]

Got caught in this mess with Aladdins Gold today. Won't be playing CWG until it's straightened out. Was ready to withdraw $500 but the 2 options were no go for me and ended up blowing it all back.

I don't know if it's still the case but Inetbet sent me checks drawn on USA banks last year. I'm going to give them a shot.

ps...I had some great screenies to post too but what's the sense if you can't get the money.

 

[cpdnd31]

is cwg offering bitcoin as a withdrawal option?

 

[shewoff]

No such luck cpdnd31. But I think I may have heard some rumbling's?

So I guess we will wait and see for now I still have winning's tied up in this whole cardpay thing?


horseplayer ya gotta stick by your gun's with the money? And as far as I know CWC is offering the option's left over like wire transfer and a check with a min. fee of $25.00 until this missing cardpay option is either reloaded and available or it goes the way of other option's we have lost in the past.

It's kinda looking bad at the moment I mean it is almost 3 week's now?
Come on RTG get it together? Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[shannyls]

Well Bitcoin may not be the answer

Tried to add a credit card today to my bitcoin account. Kept telling me I had wrong account information for the card, even though I had the card right in front of me and everything was right. So I stop that and tried to add money via another card that was already added previously. This transaction was marked pending for further withdrawal and I would receive an email within 2 hours. Got that email, said it failed. Go into account later in the day to just do a debit card money in, and it appears I may be shut down...


We need to check a few things.


We need to take some additional time to review your account. We're sorry for the delay. You will receive an email from Circle when your account is ready. This process typically takes 3-5 business days.

We'll see how this turns out.

 

[shewoff]

Very strange shannyls? It is a security oriented wallet and I had to wait to get my Debit card approved and my bank acct. But I had no real problem's?

I know that CC are viewed a bit cloudy for these bunch? They are the only thing they charge to use.
And I have not added my CC yet and may not? It is not that important to use my CC I can handle the cash thru my bank.

Sorry to hear of the problem I have my finger's crossed for you thou?Losing them as a WD option would hurt me right now! Best Of Luck! Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[shewoff]

Longer wait? It appear's that the cardpay system MAY be back up in another 10 to 14 day's?

Fresh from the CS at a cwc casino this am?And I was informed that bitcoin is coming to CWC casino's? It will be a few week's and nothing is written in stone? But it may bail some of us out of this mystery RTG update?

I wish the new's was better folk's? But we are just out here, waiting to get some help? I at least am glad that there are some player's getting the winning's from the other option's.

Only time will tell? Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[Deanna]

Longer wait? It appear's that the cardpay system MAY be back up in another 10 to 14 day's?

Fresh from the CS at a cwc casino this am?And I was informed that bitcoin is coming to CWC casino's? It will be a few week's and nothing is written in stone? But it may bail some of us out of this mystery RTG update?

I wish the new's was better folk's? But we are just out here, waiting to get some help? I at least am glad that there are some player's getting the winning's from the other option's.

Only time will tell? Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

Another 10-14 days. Wowza. Why do I feel like it's just something to say to keep everyone "happy". I haven't deposited at CWC in a few weeks now, nor High Noon. Until something gets resolved I don't see the point since I played back the last $600 I'd won. I miss playing but am sticking to my guns for now. If I don't know how I'm getting it out I'm not putting it in
Thanks for the update.

 

[shannyls]

Tried to add a credit card today to my bitcoin account. Kept telling me I had wrong account information for the card, even though I had the card right in front of me and everything was right. So I stop that and tried to add money via another card that was already added previously. This transaction was marked pending for further withdrawal and I would receive an email within 2 hours. Got that email, said it failed. Go into account later in the day to just do a debit card money in, and it appears I may be shut down...


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We'll see how this turns out.

UPDATE - Turns out, I just needed to jump thru a few more hoops to verify my identity.

 

[MyDogMick]

Bank Wire is a viable choice at this time. I had a nice win over the weekend. Karolina was kind enough to work with me on Monday to choose the best option for cashing out. Request for wire transfer was processed on Tuesday, money in my account Thursday. The fee from the casino was $25 and $20 or so from my bank. While it might be a bit pricy for smaller wins, I was quite happy with the results. Kudos to Karolina!

 

[weesie]

Well bank wire is out of the question for me since I use a credit union and they do not have "swift" codes.

Still hanging on to the hope that "card pay" will be back.

Haven't played at any of them since this mess started.

 

[MyDogMick]

Well bank wire is out of the question for me since I use a credit union and they do not have "swift" codes.

Still hanging on to the hope that "card pay" will be back.

Haven't played at any of them since this mess started.

Check with Karolina to make sure. I did not have a "swift" code and was still able to do the transaction. Granted, my bank is not a credit union, so there may be a big difference there.

 

[shewoff]

MyDogMick glad you had a nice win

Wire transfer's have always been a good way to get your winning's. But I have run into a lot of problem's with some of the casino's that state that they do not do WT's to my state?

And true as you said the smaller win's will just have to wait? As my win in one of the CWC site's that is a chip win and it can't be redeemed for any more than 10X the chip size.

weesie you are in a different spot than most? Credit Union's can be a bit spikey when it come's to WT's and that lead's to possible problem's that would be a real problem if they said we don't like to do this kind of biz. Bank's and other financial institution's know what is going on? They prefer to ignore it in some instance's. I think?

Hang on thou we will see the end of this little mystery thru till the end. If the casino's come back with the option will no longer be available. Then I will allow the pain from the loss of player's? MHO?

I will try the CS again this week-end and get back to a update here. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[horseplayer]

Bank Wire is a viable choice at this time. I had a nice win over the weekend. Karolina was kind enough to work with me on Monday to choose the best option for cashing out. Request for wire transfer was processed on Tuesday, money in my account Thursday. The fee from the casino was $25 and $20 or so from my bank. While it might be a bit pricy for smaller wins, I was quite happy with the results. Kudos to Karolina!

$45 is too much. I have no doubt that Karolina was stellar in getting your claim processed but they won't see a nickle from me as long as withdrawal fees are that high.

 

[EbeeDog]

$45 is too much. I have no doubt that Karolina was stellar in getting your claim processed but they won't see a nickle from me as long as withdrawal fees are that high.

Yeah, Karolina is great, but now I notice that where the check option was free for over 750.00, it has changed to a flat rate of 25.00 regardless. Other RTG's have pulled similar stunts.

Shouldn't somebody be making folks aware of these kinds of changes, instead of us just "noticing" them?

But, as I constantly harp, read the entire T&C's for any given casino. What they boil down to is that any casino can make any changes to anything at any time without notifying players and all decisions are final. It leaves them wiggle room, but none for us.

Also, to be reduced to where we are throwing out kudos for the privilege of being charged 45 bucks for a WD is ludicrous.

I do have to give a bit of kudos to K.K. (member/aff) On his site he has a banner right up front cautioning players to check WD options before they deposit. At least HE is upfront about this mess.

K.K. :

 

[rockydyke]

There are a number of reasons I can only use the cardpay option for my 2 pending withdrawals. Going through a bit of withdrawals now not playing. It sucks but I'm saving some money...lol (I'd rather be playing). I also have a lot of spare time to do stuff around the house (I'd rather be playing). Every day it gets easier but (I'd rather be playing). So the wait continues (I'D RATHER BE PLAYING).

 

[shewoff]

You make a valid point. rockydyke. And if not playing is the answer then I admire your fortitude.
Try a new casino that is not CWC?

And the reason's why you need cardpay to get your winning's is important to you and us. If it is the reason we are here trying to find an answer?


Unfortunately it appear's that the casino's hold NO sway over this RTG update? They are apparently being held off by this problem also. And the same old answer is all that I can get from the CWC CS?

And on top of it, they say now that the bitcoin option is NOW not happening.

On the other hand I was told that the cashier was trying to help with as many as they could handle and give each player the shot at maybe finding another alternative? I was told the standard "They will get back in 2 business day's" so it is as good as it get's for me. I'm stuck But I don't miss the money and I'am prepared to wait till the cow's come home.

Sorry the new's can't be better folk's. But if I keep trying then I will get the answer we deserve when and if it happen's? I have been playing at new casino's thou and winning at them is still getting paid. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[vinylweatherman]

Bitcoin should not be causing any of these problems. The issue seems to be the chosen Bitcoin wallet (Circle). The main thing that causes problems for Bitcoin users is converting between Bitcoin and fiat currency. With sufficient Bitcoin in the right wallet (even your own on a flash drive), and casinos accepting Bitcoin for both deposits and withdrawals, there should be few problems.

Usually when "maintenance" of something this critical takes 3 weeks and counting, it is not "maintenance", but maintenance being used as a cover story for a more serious issue. For US customers, "maintenance" that takes several weeks has often lead to a loss of money that they may have managed to retrieve had they been told the truth up front and acted on it quickly enough.

If CWC are dragging their feet because they believe that this cardpay "maintenance" is a temporary thing, they could end up at a significant competitive disadvantage if it turns out to be the usual for US players and this "maintenance" eventually turns out to be that the option had been permanently killed, such as a critical part in the chain having been shut down by the authorities - as was the case with the lengthy "maintenance" of EWX.

If players keep their gambling money in Bitcoin, and refrain from conversion to and from fiat currency, it will be very difficult for authorities to throw spanners in the works. So far, authorities have gone after the exchanges that convert between Bitcoin and fiat currency, and those sites that sell illegal goods for Bitcoin (which requires the site or it's operators to be under their jurisdiction).

Bitcoin transactions are very hard to track and shut down because they are peer to peer, and don't go via banks or other financial institutions.

We seem to have reached the point at which players are ceasing to deposit due to a fear that cardpay will never come back, coupled with there being no suitable alternative should they win.


British players are beginning to suffer transaction blocking at casinos that do not hold a UK license, yet accept UK players and are reasonably reputable. Bitcoin may well be the solution here too for those UK players fed up with the crippled clients due to RG reguations, and want to use the full range of features such as autoplay, quickspin, etc without RG crippling getting in the way.

 

[shewoff]

Always great to hear from you, vinyl

My own issue's with Bitcoin and the casino's seem's to be under control as I have had no issue's with the last couple of WD's that I was paid thru my wallet. And I agree I keep my playing money in my wallet and use it only in the bitcoin.

I do convert to put money into my bank acct. But I try to only do that 1 time a week?

If only we could get the truth behind this missing option? I have tried and tried to get some kind of reading out of my CS chat's? But it is always a lengthy process ending in a ?.

I play at about 20 different site's and about half do not have Bitcoin as a alternative for WD. This may be the stigma behind the bitcoin origin's and the rap of terrorist connection's and drug money laundering? I have seen very little to back these alleged crime's in any book or new's report?

It just appear's to me sometimes that we player's are fighting the same demon's on either side of the pond? That demon being the what I prefer to call the Righteous Right! Or the people who think they should run our society because they have the "RIGHT WAY"?
There is no place for these self righteous a--hole's in gaming or any thing else as far as I 'am concerned? But that is another story all together.

As always good to hear from you vinyl. And your comment's have merit that show's thru in your thread's and post.:notworthy

I was very sad to hear that the CWC site's would not be having Bitcoin as a alternative? This is in complete difference to what they said last week-end? I have begun to think that we are not getting the whole story here? Only time will tell thou? Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff