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I am a 3dice supporter..but this games stinks, now don't get excited, that is my opinion...
I just tried again...65.00, bet low so I would get many spins, down to my last 4.00 finally hit the bonus and I got 11 spins at 5x's..I thought, oh good, I should hit a little something with the 5x's..Well, little is a understatement, I won $1.20...This is just plain crazy..
 
well i closed my account on 4dice, i think their slots are way too tight as they control themself the software its easy for them to touch the RTP %ss
 
Markus_Demon said:
well i closed my account on 4dice, i think their slots are way too tight as they control themself the software its easy for them to touch the RTP %ss
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I think your statement here is a little harsh about them playing with the RTP. I've played at 3dice for a while, and whilst I've had bad sessions, I've also had good sessions, and I could've cashed out but haven't.

I think this comment you've made borders on crazy - they have a certain amount of respectability and trust from their past actions, and I don't think you've thought through your comment before posting. You're basically accusing them of being rogue and cheating players, and I can't stress enough how bad I think your post is.

Just to be clear, I'm not a shill for 3dice (god knows I have wasted enough money in real on tut), but your comment is way out of line IMHO.
 
Markus_Demon said:
well i closed my account on 4dice, i think their slots are way too tight as they control themself the software its easy for them to touch the RTP %ss
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This thread was actually about the new game. I don't think it was intended for people to come out of the woodwork to bash the casino.

I had a pretty good run with that game today. A few games paid ok really but that one paid more than most I think. It's kind of strange it seems to be more high variance in tournament mode than in real play.

Every time I've played that game in real my balance has dropped much slower between decent hits and I have had a lot more bonus features in real than tournament mode.

Which is actually better in the long run but I still don't think it's medium variance. :p
 
T$4300 to T$1000 for to get a free spin. It pays T$1000.
One line in regular play pays almost T$2000
T$4000 to T$200 to get another free spin. it pays T$63.

And still around a 60% RTP after at least 20k in tournaments.

I don't care who wins these tournaments but why is this game still listed as "medium" variance.

I pity the poor person who believes it when it says medium variance and thinks he's going to get some play time from a small balance.

It can happen but then it can happen in PentaPay too.

It needs to be changed.
 
weplant said:
I am a 3dice supporter..but this games stinks, now don't get excited, that is my opinion...
I just tried again...65.00, bet low so I would get many spins, down to my last 4.00 finally hit the bonus and I got 11 spins at 5x's..I thought, oh good, I should hit a little something with the 5x's..Well, little is a understatement, I won $1.20...This is just plain crazy..
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I thought this was the game that would pay me. Saw lots of wins the other day, and big wins on small bets. I normally bet at about $5. So was hoping to see a nice hit.

So far I am in the same boat. So far it seems worse than tut, actually way worse. Very hard to get bonus and when I have it has been small, at least with tut you normally get a little something back. Now I have not spun this game enough yet, so time will tell. Most slots dont treat me well at 3dice. They for some reason have a way to keep me from hitting anything 200x+. I certainly have a had a share of 200x, but not like some of the multiple wins the I have seen other people hit. I believe I have only hit 1000x maybe twice at the casino ever. I am not anticipating winning anything on this slot, but I would love to see the 100 games.
 
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the game. It just seems like an all or nothing game. Lots of slot games behave like that at all casinos.

I've had a couple of 2k hits playing max bet in tournament mode on a single regular spin and a couple of really good bonus features but mean time you don't really hit anything that keeps your balance from dropping.

PentaPay will hit nothing for 3000 dollars and then pay 15k in one hit. There's nothing wrong with that game either but neither of them are medium variance.

Unless the low variance at this casino starts with a higher than normal variance so it could be medium compared to the high which are actually extremely high.

But Fortune Falls and Wild Waves are medium variance and they're not all or nothing games.

I think any game that can give you 100 spins with a 10x multiplier has to be high variance. If it wasn't you'd get to spin too long on small deposits and eventually get those 4 scatters which gives you a pretty good chance of getting that jackpot free spin bonus.
 
I have to agree with most people, the payouts on this game are about the worst I've ever seen, even for #dice. Have played in real and tourny mode and features are near impossible to get, and when you do get them, they suck.

That being said, it is a nice looking game with cool graphics. If it wasn't such a crappy paying slot it would be outstanding. When this many people share the same experience on a slot, its not just whiny players. I think the RTP needs to be adjusted here enzo.
 
CANADAMAN99 said:
That being said, it is a nice looking game with cool graphics. If it wasn't such a crappy paying slot it would be outstanding. When this many people share the same experience on a slot, its not just whiny players. I think the RTP needs to be adjusted here enzo.
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I have seen some people win some good money on small bets, it just doesnt happen to be you or me.

Enzo if your looking to adjust RTP forget the machine and just tweek my account. Its sick how I am the feeder account.
 
Well at least I am not alone...As I said before I am a 3dice supporter, so not trying to bash them in anyway..Just this game..I play Moohlah a lot
and it can be a real stinker also, but at least it gives you the ocassional awesome hit, same with tuts...It is one thing for it to be difficult to hit the bonus round, but then to have the bonus round give you 1.20 or 4.00...Not good at all...I hope they take another look at this game..
 
I don't really care how this game pays but if you're going to advertise the variance of games you have to do it accurately.

Remove the rankings or set that one at very high.

I get more bonus features and hit zero less often in SuperSuits and that one is listed as VERY HIGH.

I seriously doubt I've ever been running less than a 60% RTP in SuperSuits either.
 
I sent a message to Enzo. Maybe he can explain how this game can possibly be listed as medium variance.
 
CANADAMAN99 said:
I have to agree with most people, the payouts on this game are about the worst I've ever seen, even for #dice. Have played in real and tourny mode and features are near impossible to get, and when you do get them, they suck.

That being said, it is a nice looking game with cool graphics. If it wasn't such a crappy paying slot it would be outstanding. When this many people share the same experience on a slot, its not just whiny players. I think the RTP needs to be adjusted here enzo.
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I had the same feeling with the new slot, is near impossible to get 3 scatters, and when you hit it I can win 12fs 1x or 11x1, that really bad, I think one time won the 100fs 10x and payme no more than $4500 or $5000. But i can saw great hits in real. Not for me.
 
Enzo please take a look at this game and adjust it. I love the graphics however the free spins are slim to none and even when you get them the pay is minimal. I generally like $1 a spin however I even lowered it to 40 cents to get play time and went thru $100 in no time and I think I got the bonus 2x only. I did this 3 nights in a row. Ching Ching is tight but this one is tighter than Dick's hat band as my grandmother use to say. :) It has been ages and thousand plus dollars since I've had a cash out here. I love the place, the people however I need to win so I can give it back and start the vicious cycle again.:rolleyes:
 
Thanks for the sponsored Artic Treasure tournament.

1k start and the leader has 27k in about 20 minutes.

Medium variance.

Every tournament seems to be one or two people with 1000x or even 2000x their wager in their balance assuming their betting max.

That's because of the 100 spin, 10x multiplier jackpot free spin bonus that one or two people might be lucky enough to hit even though the odds are about 1 in a million.

There needs to be a new classification. "Ultra high" variance.

Or maybe when you mouse over it, it should just say Pfft, good luck. :p
 
I have to agree with everyone else here - definitely HIGH variance, not medium.

OK, I was extremely lucky and got a mega-win from my 100 free-spins @ x10 (which I won off 3 scatters, by the way) - but that was ONLY because I hit 5 x Guy in a Canoe; in the 1000s of other spins I played I never hit a 5-of-a-kind of any of the top-pay symbols.
All the other lots of free-spins I had were pathetic to be honest.

KK
 
butterflyboogie said:
Enzo please take a look at this game and adjust it. I love the graphics however the free spins are slim to none and even when you get them the pay is minimal. I generally like $1 a spin however I even lowered it to 40 cents to get play time and went thru $100 in no time and I think I got the bonus 2x only. I did this 3 nights in a row. Ching Ching is tight but this one is tighter than Dick's hat band as my grandmother use to say. :) It has been ages and thousand plus dollars since I've had a cash out here. I love the place, the people however I need to win so I can give it back and start the vicious cycle again.:rolleyes:
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DITTO THAT..:)
 
skiny said:
Thanks for the sponsored Artic Treasure tournament.

1k start and the leader has 27k in about 20 minutes.

Medium variance.

Every tournament seems to be one or two people with 1000x or even 2000x their wager in their balance assuming their betting max.

That's because of the 100 spin, 10x multiplier jackpot free spin bonus that one or two people might be lucky enough to hit even though the odds are about 1 in a million.

There needs to be a new classification. "Ultra high" variance.

Or maybe when you mouse over it, it should just say Pfft, good luck. :p
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Couldn't agree with you more. Like I said earlier this slot's volatility is very high. It is not a "medium" volatility slot. I've had several batches of spins where it can go 500+ spins without a bonus. I don't think its just my bad luck but rather how this game behaves. However, the times you get the bonus and make it to the top the payout will be several hundred times the bet. It's loaded very top heavy like other high volatility slots I've played. I'm fine with that because I rather prefer higher variance but other unsuspecting players may keep on this slot thinking its medium variance and lose a bundle chasing bonuses because as I've found out they can be hundreds and hundreds of spins apart. Then if you don't make it to the top to the queen theres a good chance you won't win much.
 
Makes me want to try this game, when reading this post. So many people running so poorly with this slot. So i must hit the jackpot, when I'll try it :D!

Just kidding. But gotta give it a go some day. Would be nice to hear the RTP though..
 
Forget the features (which stink anyhow), just look at the actual pay outs of 4 Kings or even 4 Canoe guys. Unless you hit a double you don't even get your bet back. It's utterly ridiculous that anyone would play that because the only thing that actually pays out is the feature which I think we can all agree upon doesn't come up very often and pays like crap when it does. If it wasn't for the fact that 3Dice has such limited games we wouldn't even play this one - we'd just chalk it up to a bad RTP and move on... but with so few games we are all desperate for a new one.

Now that I've said all that, I will say that I'm a frequent 3Dice player. Not because of the payouts - which compared to RTG are just atrocious, but because I like the customer service, the ease of withdrawal and the trustworthiness of the casino. I cash out every once in a while and when it's good, it can be good. Are you going to hit for thousands and thousands - absolutely not. Will you get some playtime every 5-10 deposits? possibly.

But this game needs more than just an update to the type of variance, it needs a complete overhaul as far as the payout per symbol. I just don't get why they would think no one would "notice."
 
ChopleyIOM said:
I'd still be interested to hear what the T-RTP of this slot is.

It's a very simple question, with a very simple answer.
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I have no idea but without that 100x10 you're going to sit under 60% forever.

I just went though at least 350 spins without a bonus feature and I think maybe a dozen of those spins won more than my wager not counting all the times I got 2 scatters but never got the third.

Lose money in that game, go win it back somewhere else, go back and lose more, leave and win it back somewhere else over and over.

In the end I said to hell with it and let the last 15 bucks spin to zero on 20c spins just to see if it would hit.

110 spins later I was at zero. It would have been a lot sooner if not for all the times I got two scatters but couldn't get the third. Most of what I won came from getting 2 scatters. You're lucky if most line wins pay half your wager back. The odds of getting 2 scatters seems to be about a hundred times better than the odds of getting 3.
 
skiny said:
I have no idea but without that 100x10 you're going to sit under 60% forever.

I just went though at least 350 spins without a bonus feature and I think maybe a dozen of those spins won more than my wager not counting all the times I got 2 scatters but never got the third.

Lose money in that game, go win it back somewhere else, go back and lose more, leave and win it back somewhere else over and over.

In the end I said to hell with it and let the last 15 bucks spin to zero on 20c spins just to see if it would hit.

110 spins later I was at zero. It would have been a lot sooner if not for all the times I got two scatters but couldn't get the third. Most of what I won came from getting 2 scatters. You're lucky if most line wins pay half your wager back. The odds of getting 2 scatters seems to be about a hundred times better than the odds of getting 3.
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I agree with the statement above.

After around $100 in deposits and bet ranges of between 20 cents - 40 cents, this slot just simply
kicked my ass all over the place. I managed to get a few bonus rounds within my sessions and my highest
free spin combination was 18 spins with 4X multiplier. My highest bonus win was like 9$ or $10. To add
insult to injury, the Eskimo man congratulates you on a dismal win and the zombies come out to break their
necks on a 25 cent win. LOL!
 
X-Raided said:
I agree with the statement above.

After around $100 in deposits and bet ranges of between 20 cents - 40 cents, this slot just simply
kicked my ass all over the place. I managed to get a few bonus rounds within my sessions and my highest
free spin combination was 18 spins with 4X multiplier. My highest bonus win was like 9$ or $10. To add
insult to injury, the Eskimo man congratulates you on a dismal win and the zombies come out to break their
necks on a 25 cent win. LOL!
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The only way to play this game seems to be to low roll and wait for the jackpot.

.5% to 1% of your balance per spin might keep you going long enough to hit something.
 
Well, it took about 1350 spins to finally get the 100 @ 10x.

75 out of 100 spins paid zero.

2 spins made it to the 4th reel.

Pick anyone 100 regular spins in this game and find me 75 that pay zero.

Smells like Payola.
 
skiny said:
The only way to play this game seems to be to low roll and wait for the jackpot.

.5% to 1% of your balance per spin might keep you going long enough to hit something.
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That is being way to risky with this slot imo using your bankroll guidelines. I've mostly only played it in tourneys but I've had several times now where it goes 300+ spins without seeing the bonus. After thousands of tournament spins I finally hit the 100 spin/10x multiplier and it paid out 750x the bet. In the two tournaments I recently played this game in 5k was the starting bankroll. In the first tourney it hit the bonus once in 703 spins that paid out 5x. In the 2nd one it was 400 spins in and that time it went to the top for 11k win. If I was ever in the go big or go bust fast in real play mode I would choose this game over any other at 3dice. I cant believe this slot is still listed as medium variance. Its so misleading!

I would love to see Chopley do a video on Artic Adventure if he still plays at 3dice.
 
Nifty29 said:
How much were you betting?
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Max bet in tournament. $15 per spin. With a 10x multiplier that's like spinning $150 per spin for 100 spins. 15k wagered over 100 spins and 8k returned.

bowlingbob said:
That is being way to risky with this slot imo using your bankroll guidelines. I've mostly only played it in tourneys but I've had several times now where it goes 300+ spins without seeing the bonus. After thousands of tournament spins I finally hit the 100 spin/10x multiplier and it paid out 750x the bet. In the two tournaments I recently played this game in 5k was the starting bankroll. In the first tourney it hit the bonus once in 703 spins that paid out 5x. In the 2nd one it was 400 spins in and that time it went to the top for 11k win. If I was ever in the go big or go bust fast in real play mode I would choose this game over any other at 3dice. I cant believe this slot is still listed as medium variance. Its so misleading!

I would love to see Chopley do a video on Artic Adventure if he still plays at 3dice.
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Well, just because you're betting 1% of your balance doesn't mean you have to keep spinning it until you're broke. If a game isn't paying there's no rule that says you can't move along.

Wild Waves has been paying better for me so I was winning back what I would lose in Arctive Treasure playing Wild Waves and then going back to see if I could find that magic 100 @ 10x. Eventually I lost but there's nothing wrong with moving around to find a slot that's paying and coming back when your balance recovers a bit.
 
skiny said:
Max bet in tournament. $15 per spin. With a 10x multiplier that's like spinning $150 per spin for 100 spins. 15k wagered over 100 spins and 8k returned.



Well, just because you're betting 1% of your balance doesn't mean you have to keep spinning it until you're broke. If a game isn't paying there's no rule that says you can't move along.

Wild Waves has been paying better for me so I was winning back what I would lose in Arctive Treasure playing Wild Waves and then going back to see if I could find that magic 100 @ 10x. Eventually I lost but there's nothing wrong with moving around to find a slot that's paying and coming back when your balance recovers a bit.
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You know that's not how free spins work skiny. If you looked at every game like that you'd never play any slot.

The fact is you were paid ~530xbet in the free spins, which is a really good result.....and you're complaining about it.

My experience has been that the free spins generally pay pretty well, but I understand it isn't yours.

If your total spins so far on this game is 1350, then it isn't nearly enough to make any meaningful assessment regarding variance or TRTP.....but you already know that.
 
I'm basing it on all my game play since they installed this slot.

I've played it quite a bit for real money and probably 25 or 30k worth of tournaments.

And I can understand that sometimes you get a free spin and the spins are crap. That is expected when you get 15 or 20 spins. Any game can crap out for 15 spins. I'm talking about 100 spins. 75 out of 100 spins paying zero is quite a lot if we're expected to believe this is a medium variance game.

Unless the idea is that the free spins are different from the regular spins. Different reel layouts? Different RNG?

I was told once before that wasn't the case with Payola and that game consistently hits way less often in free spin mode than in regular play. I've easily seen over 75% of the free spins hit zero on long running bonus features of over 200 spins. Trust me. If 75% of my spins were hitting zero before that bonus feature triggered I would have stopped playing a long time ago.

And for the record my only real complaint about this slot is that it is still listed as medium variance. I already said I like this slot but from all the game play that I've posted does it really look like a medium variance slot?
 
Adding this "medium variance" game to video slots tournaments has just made it a "who can get the 100@10x" contest.

It's like adding PentaPay to the video slots tournaments.

The variance is about the same.
 
skiny said:
Adding this "medium variance" game to video slots tournaments has just made it a "who can get the 100@10x" contest.

It's like adding PentaPay to the video slots tournaments.

The variance is about the same.
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I was going to say the same thing. The all video slot tournaments have become much less exciting to play since this slot came out. Its a race to see who can hit the jackpot 100 spins x 10 multiplier. Before you could at least have a pick of a few and have a chance at winning. Now if you don't play this slot exclusively in all video slot tourneys you have almost no chance of winning.
 
But if everyone can play that slot, then everyone still has an equal chance of winning.
And getting 100FS isn't a guaranteed tourney win.
I've seen this game play just a few K in 100FS; I've gotten it twice..once for about 3k, once for about 6k...I've certainly gotten bigger hits in just about every available game there in video slots
 
I've played this slot once in Tourney mode.

First Impressions:

The colours blend in TOO Much. At first its difficult to differentiate between symbols, but improves as you get used to the slot.

I triggered the FS VERY easily in my first 100 spins - About 2-3 times. They didn't pay well and I didn't expect it to given its comparison to Fortune Falls,,,

I played over 2 hours and peaked at about $8000 (Started on $2500) playing $15 and I fell asleep (LOL).. It was late, I was a bit tired but honestly I got bored with the Slot..

I had multiple hits over 100 - 200X bet and I didn't see my balance dip below $4000 I abandoned the Slot even though I was still on $6000 + .. Have not played it since. I suppose the thrill is different when playing for REAL.

The potential is that of a high variance slot, but the multiple hits in the base game to keep you afloat makes me feel 3dice is accurate in its assertion that the Slot is MEDIUM variance...

Nate
 
Nate said:
I've played this slot once in Tourney mode.

First Impressions:

The colours blend in TOO Much. At first its difficult to differentiate between symbols, but improves as you get used to the slot.

I triggered the FS VERY easily in my first 100 spins - About 2-3 times. They didn't pay well and I didn't expect it to given its comparison to Fortune Falls,,,

I played over 2 hours and peaked at about $8000 (Started on $2500) playing $15 and I fell asleep (LOL).. It was late, I was a bit tired but honestly I got bored with the Slot..

I had multiple hits over 100 - 200X bet and I didn't see my balance dip below $4000 I abandoned the Slot even though I was still on $6000 + .. Have not played it since. I suppose the thrill is different when playing for REAL.

The potential is that of a high variance slot, but the multiple hits in the base game to keep you afloat makes me feel 3dice is accurate in its assertion that the Slot is MEDIUM variance...

Nate
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You're basing that one playing it once in a tournament?

Once in a while you'll get a string of mediocre hits that keep you playing but for the most part it's a pretty straight drop downhill unless you get the big hits that pay most or all of it back at once.

I stopped keeping track but for the first 20 or 25k worth of touranments I was still well under a 60% return. That's a lot of spins on many different days.

It's pretty far from medium variance.
 
skiny said:
You're basing that one playing it once in a tournament?

Once in a while you'll get a string of mediocre hits that keep you playing but for the most part it's a pretty straight drop downhill unless you get the big hits that pay most or all of it back at once.

I stopped keeping track but for the first 20 or 25k worth of touranments I was still well under a 60% return. That's a lot of spins on many different days.

It's pretty far from medium variance.
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Yes - Just giving my personal view - Not a scientific one :p

I play Dead or Alive EVERYDAY, so when a slot keeps me hovering or even gives me hits - its either low or medium variance. DOA is VERY HIGH Variance, so maybe your perception of High Variance is different to that of mine...

Yes I based my opinion of the Slot on one session - well over 2-3 hours. As it said in my initial post 'First Impressions' - It may or may not be accurate... But just my personal opinion ...

Nate
 
Nate said:
Yes - Just giving my personal view - Not a scientific one :p

I play Dead or Alive EVERYDAY, so when a slot keeps me hovering or even gives me hits - its either low or medium variance. DOA is VERY HIGH Variance, so maybe your perception of High Variance is different to that of mine...

Yes I based my opinion of the Slot on one session - well over 2-3 hours. As it said in my initial post 'First Impressions' - It may or may not be accurate... But just my personal opinion ...

Nate
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I have no idea what Dead or Alive is. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with the slot. I just don't believe it's a medium variance game.
 
skiny said:
It makes PentaPay look like a 50/50 shot.
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I've played it a fair bit and am actually a little ahead, so maybe I'm lucky thus far.

I have no doubt that Enzo has a set formula, being the math geek he is, to determine variance, and a corresponding scale which determines the category displayed.

IMO it is in the upper percentile of medium I.e. very close to high. Just my opinion though.

It would be interesting if Enzopolous posted the maths behind it all. I doubt it would be a trade secret or anything.

Oh....and what do you call a deer with it's eyes missing?
 
Medium variance.

639 spins at max bet.

Total stake - about 9.5k

Total winnings - about 12k. - Not bad.

Half of that 12k came from 2 seperate regular spins.

Without those 2 out of 639 spins my RTP would have dropped from about 126% to 50%.

Less than 0.5% of my spins paid 50% of my winnings.

Medium variance. :p
 
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