New microgaming

[Simmo!]

Is this actually true?
At least in poker (Prima) its not.

As the post above indicates, as far as I am aware it's not written down anywhere that MG will step in. Publically at least. In the past to the best of my knowledge whenever an MG casino has gone down or been taken over, players have been paid and the general assumption is that MG take steps to ensure this is a condition of any buy-out. Presumably to protect their own rep as much as anything.

To be honest, I think almost 100% of the time any MG casino that goes under will get bought out as it will have a history and database worth acquiring. And most MG's are part of bigger groups anyhow so most go through scaling down.

Quite how that sits now they have pulled out of the US though, who knows. Guess we'll find out in time.

 

[Tengil]

As the post above indicates, as far as I am aware it's not written down anywhere that MG will step in. Publically at least. In the past to the best of my knowledge whenever an MG casino has gone down or been taken over, players have been paid and the general assumption is that MG take steps to ensure this is a condition of any buy-out. Presumably to protect their own rep as much as anything.

To be honest, I think almost 100% of the time any MG casino that goes under will get bought out as it will have a history and database worth acquiring. And most MG's are part of bigger groups anyhow so most go through scaling down.

Quite how that sits now they have pulled out of the US though, who knows. Guess we'll find out in time.

Probably true for casinos. Players dont tend to keep high balances for longer times and the customer base probably is quite valuable.

Poker is a different thing tough. Im mainly thinking about the TUSK skins (MPP). MG pretty much said that they wont cover any player balances, the issue has gotten so little publicity that they probably dont think its worth it (just speculating). The company is still in liquadation so its not yet time for any final words.
Theres a long thread over at 2+2 for those interested.

So one can assume that MG would step up if they deem its worth it in regards of the publicity, negative or positive depending on the action taken.

 

[AussieDave]

It's late here (actually early but another 8am to bed for me) so sorry for not adding the direct quote.

Someone (I think VWM) added that there has been a large influx of MG casinos. Which from memory seems to be the case lately.

I also recall that before (pre- 2003?) new MG casinos did not receive all games to start with. They had to (for want of a better description) earn their trust (maybe) to be granted use of all games.

Maybe this turning point, has been a negative attributing factor in the compliance protocols that MG one used to sift through all applications for MG licenses

All I know is there have a been a couple of shoddy MG operations crop up in their history. This latest one seems to be yet another, which follows in quick step from GoWild!

Cheers
T

 

[kassiap]

After all this time they finally have pissed me off enough that i will post how this sort of ended.


I NEED TO ADD IF YOU ONLY READ THIS PART;

I NEVER GOT PAID AFTER 3 WEEKS OF PROMISES AND ONLY 350$ OWED

So back to this long drawn out story.


After i had posted about the email always bouncing i got a email the next day from someone named "Michael Robbins" He claimed he was one of the owners and was sorry for the mixup.He asked if he could call me at home.I said "sure" and 1 hour went by and he then emailed me again and said since there was a block on my phone that does not allow blocked numbers he could not call???


I then gave him my cell and he called.We spoke for about 20 minutes and he promised me the world.He said he would like me to do work for the casino since they have no one in Canada i would do something ,although i was never really sure what.

He also said he would give me extra money on top of my withdraw for having to wait,he said they were just doing there soft opening and the real launch was in Feb sometime.So i would have to excuse there messiness.

All this sounded really really good and of course i bought all this and sat around with my thumb up my butt for 11 days and still no bank wire.I have now emailed him 8 times in 6 days and no response back.I am not sure what it means but if they are screwing me for 350 measly dollars imagine if someone did win alot of money.


Below i am going to post all his emails he sent me so you can see what a smooth scammer this guy is.

Also he had said that their processor was in Africa....is that a normal place for a casino processor to be?He also claims to know some people from around here he said he met at some convention and was told once his casino is off and running they will acredite his casino.......Not sure if that is true either


Anyway here are his emails;


1-Hello ,

I just saw your mail. As you can see we have changed our mail server to solve any problems in the future.

My message went out before I got your message.

It would be perfect if I can contact you in order to service you.

Sincerely,

Michael Robbins
Player Manager



2-Hello ,

I tried to call you but this number does not accept shielded numbers.

We have a phone system that does not send an identifier.

Earlier today I tried to get in touch with you with the following # 1-780

May I try to reach you there?


Michael Robbins
Player manager



3-I will try to call you in an hour.

Thank you for giving me this opportunity, I really appreciate this.

Sincerely,

Michael Robbins
Player Manager




4-This one was dated JAN 21

Hello,


How are you?

I left you a message (too long for your voice-mail) on the 387 number. Please note that your money should reach you within 48 hours.

For the inconvenience that comes with this delay, I have credited your account with a bonus.
We also applied for a toll free support line for Canada so you (and other players) can contact us by phone.

If there is anything I can do for you please let me know.

I am looking forward to hear from you!

Kind Regards,


5- This one was on jan 23


Hello ,

Thank you for your mail. I can guarantee you that I personally ensured that this wire went out. I even made several phone calls with our payment processor and they even knew your name, so you must have won a lot lately .

I am really happy with your support and makes me realize what it's all for!

Thanks again.

Kind regards,

Michael

I though that him being nosy about my winnings lately was a little creepy


So that was the last email i recieved from him and here we are.So if any of you are planning to try this place out ...maybe think twice because they seem like another group out there (rtg group) talk all sweet and smooth and then just hope you will go away so they can keep scamming people.


Also curious if "Max" or "Bryan" or anyone from here really knows this guy like he claims?


Thats all for now

 

[lots0]

Also curious if "Max" or "Bryan" or anyone from here really knows this guy like he claims?

PAB and find out, I would.

 

[kassiap]

Just wondering if this could be moved to casino complaints since this is a no pay now.

 

[AussieDave]

Also he had said that their processor was in Africa....is that a normal place for a casino processor to be?

The majority of new start up MG casinos do not have their own processor. So they use third party proccessing.

The only one I'm away of in South Afrian (Cape Town) is Proc Cyber Services (PCS). YYYhttp://www.proccybe.com, they've been around for years. Over the years when I've had dealings with them, I've found the majority of their CSR as arrogant, rude and not very helpful.

Some MG casinos also use them for security and fraud control.

Cheers
T

 

[vinny187666]

i got paid!

hi guys,
i read this thread with trepidation, as i had already made a withdrawal request with these guys.
lucky me my fears were unfounded, i had to send my id and a utility bill, but all casinos ask for that i think
anyway i got paid in like 3 days,not too bad, i have waited longer.
i am stoked, i have a poker bankroll now!

 

[handkey]

They are focus on the nederlands market:

1, The name: Ned+Play

2, The default language is Nederlands

After all, the flash in their homepage is really cool.