New MG slot Playboy

[Blathaon]

but isnt it very strange that you see here in this forum only screenshots of high playboy wins with a betsize of 0.X and 1.X.

I didnt saw any screenshot with 3.X or higher.

Not strange at all, there are a lot more people playing at the lower stakes so just as we would expect we see more of those screenshots. This is true for all slots not just Playboy.

 

[lotusch]

Well I have an official playboy break...
3k down on this monster while on all other 243 liners I am mostly up so I dunno where the 97% RTP is on playboy as I haven't seen it yet...
500-1000 spins without free spins alot of times so I expect a session where I would get them a few times within 500 spins but no such thing yet...
And I will go back and continue my €1.80-€3.00 bets especially as I am affraid to hit a "biggie" on a €0.30-€0.60 spin which I would hate...

 

[binary128]

... are you hoping to get this variance number for playboy specifically for some reason or is it part of a wider effort to get this same data for as many slots as possible?

My ultimate objective is to assign words to numbers. In the thread to which I linked in my previous post was the following:

OK, so we've got the hard data on Gems of Isis:

1. It has a Variance of 51 +/- 1.5.

2. It has a Max Line Hit Frequency of about 35%.

3. It has an "Average Number of Spins Between Free Game Wins" of 140.

Based on "game play feel", ChopleyIOM thinks that this is a "Medium" variance slot.

zap987 feels that this is a "Low" variance slot, based on both "game play feel" as well as on some "max possible wins" calculations.

I think that, just as with Theoretical RTP, Variance is another slot performance value which can be used by the Player to answer the question "OK, what can I expect from this slot?" before they start playing. I've heard it stated many times that Players like bonuses because of the extended playtime. If they're (unknowingly) dropping $1 a round on a "High Variance" slot, they may find that their extended playtime is cut pretty short, pretty quickly.

I strongly feel that a word (High, Medium, Low) would better serve the Player than a number. However, just as with buying a pair of pants, it would be nice if one slot manufacturer's words were associated with the same Variance numbers as another manufacturer's words. Otherwise, High variance for one manufacturer might be Medium variance for another manufacturer. (To continue the analogy - the pants don't fit.)

Also with regards the free spins data, my understanding is kktmd has his data structured Such that the value of the free spin row is already equivalent to the total of the trigger spin and the bonus round. Assuming I am right, should it not be possible to simply square the existing value to use in the calculation as opposed to any extra code or subselect on the individual free spins? (I am unaware if they were recorded anyway too actually)

If this is true, then I think you're right - it would make the calculation of S1 and S2 very simple. In our database each round, free spin or standard spin, is recorded in a separate row, which is why our S2 calculation was a bit trickier.

If this is true, then it would also make the calculation of WRC a simple "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM table_name". In our table, there is a field gametypeidno, which has a value of 1 for a standard spin and a value of 2 for a free spin, adding a WHERE clause to the count. (I mention that because sometimes I've forgotten that WHERE clause, completely hosing the results.)

I don't think you mentioned which slot(s) have already been analysed in this one you have done the 40 mil spins on, but would love to know?

All of our slots have now been analyzed using a 40-million round sample set. It would be nice to use a 250-million round sample size, but we dump the data into a database, which takes time. However, having the data in a database allows us to do additional analysis, like a CHITEST evaluation of the reel stop value distribution.

If you, or kktmd, can calculate the reported Variance values using the formula provided by Mike, then I, for one, would find it very interesting to see Player's "subjective feel" posts on the slot's variance, and compare a "consensus variance word" for that slot to the calculated Variance number.

Chris

 

[binary128]

Interesting Chris.

So what does all this mean to low-value players like CM members?

Has kktmd got it wrong?

I'm just wondering what impact this is going to have on us?

Did my previous post answer your questions?

Chris

 

[catapultaudio]

Going on the way kktmd presented his data here, if it is NOT structured like I suggested, he must definitely have the results of all free spin rounds in a simple format that could easily be appended to the normal spin rounds data table to produce a full set on which to make the calculations (because he has presented such data in a simple table for playboy and other slots here on CM)

Sorry when you say 'all your slots' ... I'm quite new around here and hadn't even realised you were representing a casino, I'm positively chomping at the bit to hear some more about this data you have now .. which casino is it, and have you posted your full findings for all slots anywhere as yet?

 

[Nifty29]

Did my previous post answer your questions?

Chris

Yes, thank you Chris.

 

[zanzibar]

Problem is its actually a video of a game being played in a flash app embedded in a HTML page, whose text strings are not editable using firebug or similar. The slot in question shows practice credits in the available coins box in free play, so it is at worst, a very well edited fake.. or much more likely, I would say, its real...?

You are right that it does display different strings depending on real money vs practice play, which I had not noticed before. That makes it more difficult to fake but definitely not impossible (using a debugger or just post-processing the video for example), but like you say I am more inclined to believe that its real.

Pointing to a bit of text on a HTML page that says "real" as proof is still nonsense.

 

[Ad7777]

NO Playboy on Ladbrokes?

I notice Ladbrokes have not got "Playboy" , is there any Ladbrokes rep here to explain why this is? i notice they have added "Sweet Harvest" which is a new microgaming slot , but they have not added "Playboy" - something does'nt seem right ...... i wonder if they will be getting the new "Dark Knight" slot too which is coming out this month!?

 

[binary128]

... I'm positively chomping at the bit to hear some more about this data you have now .. which casino is it, and have you posted your full findings for all slots anywhere as yet?

I'm not representing a Casino. I am representing a Casino software supplier.

If you go to the (now quite old) CM thread titled Slot Statistics - Critiques Requested, halfway down the page of the first post is a link labeled "Here is that Separate Page".

Following that link will lead you to a page in the Help system of our demo environment titled Slot Games - Expanded Statistics:. (The page's format looks a little funky at full browser width and height because it was coded specifically to fit into the Casino's smaller Help popup window.)

Click on any slot name to expose details. The chart at the bottom is also interesting. The link on this page labeled "Return To Player (RTP) Percent" leads you to another page in our Help system with which you may be interested titled (of all things) Return To Player (RTP) Percent. This page also contains 2 links - "RTP Summary List", and "Certified Fair Gambling" - both of which lead you to pages in which you also may be interested.

What you see here has been running in the real world for anywhere from 5 years to a little over a year.

I see that kktmd's last forum activity date was Aug 10, so let's hope that he wanders in here again to pick up the thread.

Chris

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

This slot just makes me sick I really would love to have a hit like that. Started today as was able to squeeze in a tiny £10 deposit which gave me $14 at 32RED.
I did really well won big on Hellboy and just about made it over $300.... Cashout was screaming in my head but also those lovely ladies from Playboy was giving me ding dong....

636 spins later yes you heard right betting 0,60 and 0,90 all gone WITHOUT getting a feature. I have heard couple saying then went many many spins without getting feature but 636 spins in one session without feature a lowish bet is for me sick only got myself to blame I know. But feel i needed to let some of my anger out on this slot in here

One of the reason are those nice screenshots we see with all the wilds everywhere and hoping we can do the same. Just want to warn others like myself chasing an almost impossible dream. Chance of getting a hit like that is almost impossible. And you can end up getting badly hurt on this slot like i was today.

Own fault end of the day and I am still hitting myself you can be sure of that But not getting just a lousy paying feature has done my head in should I just stay away from it now or am I in for a BIG payday soon? Not sure how it works is it really just random next time i play? do i start from scratch in new session or do i start from spin 637? What i noticed is on these newer slots is it remembers last spin and that is what loads when you fire it up....

YEAH seems like the RTP came back today when playing Playboy again. I though it gotta be bound to payout something nice. And yes it was within 50 spins I got feature and choose Running wilds

 

[varverooo]

hey Guys,

I had the most incredible run on this slot. I started with 50€ at Nedplay and was down to my last 10€. I hit the feature finally and it hit big (first feature with all wins X5, over 200X bet). From that time on i kept hitting the feature like in every 20 spins or so five times and they all paid good (40-100X bet, not one single bad feature). I was up to 270€ when i changed the slot. From there on, everything went downhill and I lost my balance cuz i couldnt stop. Stupid me, i could have cashed out! But the run on Playboy was so awesome. The feature just kept coming!!!! ( i played 5 times the first feature, one time the second with the running wilds). If you want to see a screenshot, I can retrieve it from playcheck cuz I didnt record it.

Earlier, i only once had a decent hit on that slot and never a winning streak. Yesterday was so cool!

 

[varverooo]

Thats the screenshot with the 200X bet and main hit within that feature.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

it used to be fun but i cant get stacked bunnies any more and the last feature is always crap.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Finally had a proper stab at this in real play (I did have a go at it a few weeks ago on a 200% match from 32Red but it bust me out on 30p spins without a single bonus round).

It's alright I suppose but it ain't no IR. I got as far as the second feature but no luck to speak of with the running wilds on the three times I took the feature.

Without the Wild Desire and also without much of a chance of a decent hit in the base game, it just becomes a case of sitting out the bonus round, which is a perfectly acceptable design choice but I like slots to have 'backup' win potential.

I then had to stop playing it because Chopley Jnr came down and I don't want her asking questions about Playboy and why the girls aren't wearing many clothes.

Also, like all modern MG slots, after a certain amount of time it starts running like a juddering pile of shit, even on a nicely specced media PC with a modestly capable 1GB graphics card in it, whereas IR runs nice and smoothly for hours on the end.

 

[Balthazar]

Finally had a proper stab at this in real play (I did have a go at it a few weeks ago on a 200% match from 32Red but it bust me out on 30p spins without a single bonus round).

It's alright I suppose but it ain't no IR. I got as far as the second feature but no luck to speak of with the running wilds on the three times I took the feature.

Without the Wild Desire and also without much of a chance of a decent hit in the base game, it just becomes a case of sitting out the bonus round, which is a perfectly acceptable design choice but I like slots to have 'backup' win potential.

I then had to stop playing it because Chopley Jnr came down and I don't want her asking questions about Playboy and why the girls aren't wearing many clothes.

Also, like all modern MG slots, after a certain amount of time it starts running like a juddering pile of shit, even on a nicely specced media PC with a modestly capable 1GB graphics card in it, whereas IR runs nice and smoothly for hours on the end.

The only way to play this slot is autoplay "until stop" and quick spins. Then when you finally get the bonus you pick the 2nd one, wait out the first 12 free spins or so and start praying for the last 3.

I'm still not sure if I like it because I won on it or because I like the extreme high variance.

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

The only way to play this slot is autoplay "until stop" and quick spins. Then when you finally get the bonus you pick the 2nd one, wait out the first 12 free spins or so and start praying for the last 3.

I'm still not sure if I like it because I won on it or because I like the extreme high variance.

I hit +1000x stake on the 5th spin yesterday. But yes, normally the outcome of the final 3-5 is what to look for.

2nd feature has crazy variance but the total lack of 4 reels on Wild Night-feature makes me pick the 2nd one 99 % of the time.

 

[007sam]

I play 1 and 2, I did try 30p a spin the other day but tbh I never got anywhere with it, 60p or 90p is my thing....

 

[varverooo]

Since i see the big win screenshots with the second feature, I have picked it the last 12 times i got the feature. I regret it. I havent had a single big win with it, that seems to be crazy high variance. Ok, 12 times is not a big number, but from the first feature I at least got a good win frequently. The second feature has given me only maximum 10X bet up to date. Am I just extremely unlucky? I dont like it!

Edit: Ok, I just saw that it gave me 40X bet once, but still not that pretty.

 

[catapultaudio]

I don't need to look back over this thread to know I posted here waaay back complaining that the 2nd feature didn't ever pay out a dime... back then I was picking the 4th almost exclusively and having some okay luck with it, quite a few 3 reels wild for 100-400x bet, for example .. anyway I decided to give the 2nd feature another go during a particularly lucky session a month or so back and got my first decent hit - prior to that I had only seen the stacked bunnies on reels 2-5 when they didnt make a winning combination (including a soul-shattering full reels 2/4/5 none-hit), so stuck at it for the rest of the evening, and out of perhaps 15 features I had maybe 5 that were over 200x bet, plus my personal best hit ever so far of over 800x bet... and since then I've been hooked on the 2nd feature but haven't seen anything great ever since that one session, lol

 

[sledge13]

Probs the best ungimped slot left out there after the DOA debacle, the 2nd feature running wilds is awesome.

 

[sledge13]

Omg what did I say, I have been destroyed by this slot this last week...£1000+ gone and no sign of a 500x win andd thats on .60p spins!

 

[syntynyt]

remember the forum member Dahlia from Philippine that posted 1 screenshot probably full of wilds cant remember exactly, in running wild feature. and said that was not the first time. she is still banned i think. so like in GOT and all MG branded releases(except Tarzan), you can scoop 1000-4000x, you waste money for a purpose, those slots carry massive hits. play netent so called med-variance and see balance zeroing in no time, and for what 400-500x max win. my lucky MG branded release was GOT 15 lines, the max i won was over 1000x and several 500x+, and many came early in game play. but when MG is cold is iceberg, most notable in IR when bonuses/WD totally wipe out from the game no matter how many spins you do. i miss MG, nowhere left to play them.

 

[sledge13]

Well I miss my money and now that it's gone will I be a due a big win? but then people on here say its all random so how does the slot know to give me some rtp %...

Does anyone hit 3000x wins on Playboy anymore don't see anything in the screenshots page.

 

[sledge13]

Plus when I return to this slot do I play at the same casino where have had all my losses? or play at another (I have all the features opened at 2 casinos), none of us really know how these slots really work, how come no ex programmer ever comes forward?

 

[sledge13]

Oh well cheers everyone...

 

[snotter999]

here is 2 wins from new years day

 

[snotter999]

and one from a couple of months ago

 

[sledge13]

Thanks m8, nice hits!

 

[sledge13]

£2600 down now on .60p and a few .90p spins no big running wilds win at all...where is my 3000X!!!

 

[snotter999]

hmmm, all i can say to that mate is i hope you are playing other games.
have a few spins an if it don't look like paying try something else an come back later.
I play Playboy a lot but share the love with other games an hit it often in between.
As you've seen from a couple of my screenshots, yes you can win big. And i have lots of others i have not bothered posting.
Just couldn't be bothered lately to be honest.
Had one last week where i left the room and came back to see it paying out from first 3 lines full of wilds. Was nice!

 

[tommy84]

0.3 stake